The problem is the system, that rewards TSA agents for being thourough when they are harassing passengers beyond what would be needed for security purposes.
So the descission for them to make basically is to apply to detain you without reason until you miss your flight with no personal risk and NO PENALTY to them, or let him have his soda can and risk a goor telling of if their supervisor notices.
Not too hard if you can offload all possible ill effects of your job to the subject himself, but have to personally carry the risk of using common sense.
Yes. But Ford's car didn't take away the horses from the users. Rather seing the car made them want to own one instead of a horse. So you can't push any features onto customers, they will feel like they had their horses taken away, and NOT as if they just had been given a car.
The problem with Agile is that it gives too much freedom to the customer to change their mind late in the project and make the developers do it all over again.
They don't care what development process you use. The customer will change their mind late in the project anyway.
Giving away your location to other objects occupying the same airspace may be reasonable from a safety viewpoint. But would pretty much defeat a "secret" recon mission.
This should show that the main risk of genetic manipulated plants is NOT that eating them may or may not be harmful , but that you might not be able to control their spread.
You don't think if an "innocous strain of wheat" can escape from a lab into the wild any strain of wheat could? Or is that impossible because Monsanto wouldn't hand "get out of lab" badges to agressive and unconsumeable strains?
Of course, I did grow up near the Johnson Space Center and most of our field trips were NASA contractors and NASA itself, so that probably helped. And it was the late 70's, so paper tape, 9-track, punch cards, disk packs, etc. were the norm.
Strange how compared even to something like the original Gameboy, that much less computing power could look more fascinating.
You could actually SEE how data is processed. And seeing is believing. This clearly sparks more intrest in "computers"
Back then, the basics (e.g. a simple "guess the number" game in Basic or Pascal) was much much closer to professional data crunching in a big iron computer room. geting "Guess the number" working was a success. Today it's a disapointment because it doesn't have 3D-graphics.
And a fairly knowledgeable high-school student named Richard Garriott was our club leader, and he was pretty enthusiastic about this computer stuff.
But it DID get me interested in these here computer things.
But you have to admit that that was sheer luck....
In the first place, I did not really mean to refer to the present case in writing the above post. Rather I was debunking in general the kind of legal chauvinism GP was entertaining. However, since you are interested in the law...
Same here.. I just wanted to open that mentioned can of worms by providing another valid viewpoint, that would have led to the opposite conclusion.
To restate the facts: FB makes a Carbolic Smoke like "unilateral offer to the world." A minor (lacking in her jurisdiction the capacity to enter into contract) sitting in front of a computer in Italy purports toa ccepts the offer.
In my jurisdiction the "postal acceptance rule," which holds inter alia that a postal contract is made in the place from which the acceptance is sent, should be disposative of the question. Acceptance was made in Italy where user lacks capacity and thus no valid contract was entered into (and the choice of law clause which would have determined the proper law is non-effectual).
I'd question that....
Most "uniliteral offers to the world" are NOT seen as a binding offer, but rather an invitatio ad offernadum, an invitation to treat. I doubt that FB is obliged to accept anyone who tries to sign up. So this would exactly reverse your point: The OFFER would have been sent from Italy, but the ACCEPTANCE wherever the FB branch responsible for the European part of the site might be. (IIRC, FB claims that to be Ireland, but for the sake of the argument it could also be the US)
That would put that whole stuff under US Law, COPPA and so on.
In Italy... in Italy. As a common-law lawyer I have no freeping idea! I mean, what the hell are these Italians on about? I would have thought if she lacked the capacity there never was a contract, so how can they go after FB for "entering into a contract with a minor?!!!" Or is this poorly translated?
At least oversimplified. I doubt any jurisdiction could ban minors completly from contracts, or else they couldn't do as much as buy an ice cream or a coke on their own. For example, 110 BGB is the law that adds that exception to the general "no contracts with minors" rule. (probably like COPPA allows minors to sign up to websites)
So that italian girl did business with an american website....
... in Italy. Whether I buy a can of Coke or a can of Ozzie Cola in Australia the same Australian law will apply.
But this is where the analogies end: If a minor from italy can get to Australia to buy a softdrink without her parent's consent, we have a completly other matter at hand...
Yes. speculation. But an example why discussions about the applicable laws are also speculation unless we know know about the legal basics of FB's various agencys, local offices and alike.
And IIRC, in a similar case about data privacy, FB claimed that solely the Irish branch is responsible for operating the website.
FB has an obligation to abide by the law of any country in which they do business.
That sounds sensible and logical. But who did business with who?
So that italian girl did business with an american website.... Sounds like that girl should fall under US law wich IIRC has regulations about minors signing up to websites. (COPA with a minimum age of 13, right?) Did the girl come to facebook or did facebook come to the girl to "sign that contract".
Facebook opend an AD SALE office in Milan. That may or may not be a "real" facebook office, but honestly, after hearing about Googles and Apples tax tactics, would anyone be surprised if this was just the office of a rather independant ad-selling company and not anywhere near a position that may have to do with running the facebook website?
I'm German and a beer fan. And I never stop beeing amazed about the variety of beer you actually can produce within the limits of the purity law. On the other hand, I became a fan of Ameriucan craft beer, too.
And at least with Steam, you get back a few of the advantages of media-less game distribution. Like immedeate delivery (download), free replacement delivery (try that with a broken physically DVD) and no need to jam the DVD in just for the useless copyprotection check.
If I go to United.com and their ad or search engine says I can fly to SF for $292 then it's going to be $292, with a base fare of maybe $240 plus fees and taxes.
That's a good one.
My last airline ticket costed me 515 Eur. That's what it was advertised for, and that's what I paid. Not out of range for a transcontinental flight. And can you imagine how my jaw dropped when I checked the passenger receipt and I saw that the price was composed from 125Eur airfare and 390Eur fees and taxes?
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Because home is that place where we keep all our REAL tools and therefor have absolutely no use for the toy saw on a swiss army knife?
Those things are MADE FOR travelling, whyn you can't lug around a real toolbox.
The problem is the system, that rewards TSA agents for being thourough when they are harassing passengers beyond what would be needed for security purposes.
So the descission for them to make basically is to apply to detain you without reason until you miss your flight with no personal risk and NO PENALTY to them, or let him have his soda can and risk a goor telling of if their supervisor notices.
Not too hard if you can offload all possible ill effects of your job to the subject himself, but have to personally carry the risk of using common sense.
Yes. But Ford's car didn't take away the horses from the users. Rather seing the car made them want to own one instead of a horse. So you can't push any features onto customers, they will feel like they had their horses taken away, and NOT as if they just had been given a car.
The problem with Agile is that it gives too much freedom to the customer to change their mind late in the project and make the developers do it all over again.
They don't care what development process you use. The customer will change their mind late in the project anyway.
So it's not bad to take precautions for that.
If it was a military operation, they could just turn the transponder off.
...and risk exactly such near misses as in this video...
Giving away your location to other objects occupying the same airspace may be reasonable from a safety viewpoint. But would pretty much defeat a "secret" recon mission.
Now guess what's valued more by the military....
This should show that the main risk of genetic manipulated plants is NOT that eating them may or may not be harmful , but that you might not be able to control their spread.
You don't think if an "innocous strain of wheat" can escape from a lab into the wild any strain of wheat could? Or is that impossible because Monsanto wouldn't hand "get out of lab" badges to agressive and unconsumeable strains?
No. Just that there is a much smaller market for GMO plants than for natural ones. No regulations needed for that.
Regulation would be if market participants would have to accept GMO wheat if they don't want to.
Of course, I did grow up near the Johnson Space Center and most of our field trips were NASA contractors and NASA itself, so that probably helped. And it was the late 70's, so paper tape, 9-track, punch cards, disk packs, etc. were the norm.
Strange how compared even to something like the original Gameboy, that much less computing power could look more fascinating.
You could actually SEE how data is processed. And seeing is believing. This clearly sparks more intrest in "computers"
Back then, the basics (e.g. a simple "guess the number" game in Basic or Pascal) was much much closer to professional data crunching in a big iron computer room. geting "Guess the number" working was a success. Today it's a disapointment because it doesn't have 3D-graphics.
And a fairly knowledgeable high-school student named Richard Garriott was our club leader, and he was pretty enthusiastic about this computer stuff.
But it DID get me interested in these here computer things.
But you have to admit that that was sheer luck....
1. Ask the some of the kids that left why they did so
They thought they would learn the secret of how to "hack facebook" at the first session. Dispointed that it would require hard work.
In the first place, I did not really mean to refer to the present case in writing the above post. Rather I was debunking in general the kind of legal chauvinism GP was entertaining. However, since you are interested in the law ...
Same here.. I just wanted to open that mentioned can of worms by providing another valid viewpoint, that would have led to the opposite conclusion.
To restate the facts: FB makes a Carbolic Smoke like "unilateral offer to the world." A minor (lacking in her jurisdiction the capacity to enter into contract) sitting in front of a computer in Italy purports toa ccepts the offer.
In my jurisdiction the "postal acceptance rule," which holds inter alia that a postal contract is made in the place from which the acceptance is sent , should be disposative of the question. Acceptance was made in Italy where user lacks capacity and thus no valid contract was entered into (and the choice of law clause which would have determined the proper law is non-effectual).
I'd question that....
Most "uniliteral offers to the world" are NOT seen as a binding offer, but rather an invitatio ad offernadum, an invitation to treat. I doubt that FB is obliged to accept anyone who tries to sign up. So this would exactly reverse your point: The OFFER would have been sent from Italy, but the ACCEPTANCE wherever the FB branch responsible for the European part of the site might be. (IIRC, FB claims that to be Ireland, but for the sake of the argument it could also be the US)
That would put that whole stuff under US Law, COPPA and so on.
In Italy ... in Italy. As a common-law lawyer I have no freeping idea! I mean, what the hell are these Italians on about? I would have thought if she lacked the capacity there never was a contract, so how can they go after FB for "entering into a contract with a minor?!!!" Or is this poorly translated?
At least oversimplified. I doubt any jurisdiction could ban minors completly from contracts, or else they couldn't do as much as buy an ice cream or a coke on their own. For example, 110 BGB is the law that adds that exception to the general "no contracts with minors" rule. (probably like COPPA allows minors to sign up to websites)
So that italian girl did business with an american website....
... in Italy. Whether I buy a can of Coke or a can of Ozzie Cola in Australia the same Australian law will apply.
But this is where the analogies end: If a minor from italy can get to Australia to buy a softdrink without her parent's consent, we have a completly other matter at hand...
Yes. speculation. But an example why discussions about the applicable laws are also speculation unless we know know about the legal basics of FB's various agencys, local offices and alike.
And IIRC, in a similar case about data privacy, FB claimed that solely the Irish branch is responsible for operating the website.
FB has an obligation to abide by the law of any country in which they do business.
That sounds sensible and logical. But who did business with who?
So that italian girl did business with an american website.... Sounds like that girl should fall under US law wich IIRC has regulations about minors signing up to websites. (COPA with a minimum age of 13, right?) Did the girl come to facebook or did facebook come to the girl to "sign that contract".
Look at your URL.
Facebook opend an AD SALE office in Milan. That may or may not be a "real" facebook office, but honestly, after hearing about Googles and Apples tax tactics, would anyone be surprised if this was just the office of a rather independant ad-selling company and not anywhere near a position that may have to do with running the facebook website?
I never knew "R2" means anything like that in any language. Guess I have to take a few more english classes....
So what?
Star wars has been dubbed to much more obscure languages before!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCDb8g_kuu0
Yes. Iraq didn't create their oil reserves themselves... why should THEY own it instead of us?
American, right?
I'm German and a beer fan. And I never stop beeing amazed about the variety of beer you actually can produce within the limits of the purity law. On the other hand, I became a fan of Ameriucan craft beer, too.
Belgium? Ummm thanks, but no thanks....
Lots of people are worried about that, too.
They should have made it to the headlines, too. And that is what actually worries me.
For about 10 or twelfe years. (which is IIRC the estimated volume of oil/gas that could be produced my fracking).
And then a country WITHOUT energy, clean water and beer is definitly NOT what we need.
For me, Gamestop dies at the moment when I discovered that used games cost more there than new games at Amazon.
And at least with Steam, you get back a few of the advantages of media-less game distribution. Like immedeate delivery (download), free replacement delivery (try that with a broken physically DVD) and no need to jam the DVD in just for the useless copyprotection check.
If I go to United.com and their ad or search engine says I can fly to SF for $292 then it's going to be $292, with a base fare of maybe $240 plus fees and taxes.
That's a good one.
My last airline ticket costed me 515 Eur. That's what it was advertised for, and that's what I paid. Not out of range for a transcontinental flight. And can you imagine how my jaw dropped when I checked the passenger receipt and I saw that the price was composed from 125Eur airfare and 390Eur fees and taxes?
Coffee/soda being free does NOT mean you have to gulp it down till you burst!