Whoa, "what is the point of rereleasing old movies on Blu-Ray - like theres gonna be more shades of black and white?" Really??
You realize that the majority of old movies were filmed at a higher resolution than even Blu-Ray can accommodate? Properly mastered, old and even very old films on Blu-Ray blow away the DVD equivalents.
Someone has been watching too much 320p streaming video
Actually, it's a Sony, 20th Century Fox, Dell, Hewlett Packard, Hitachi, LG Electronics, Panasonic, Mitsubishi, Philips, Pioneer, Samsung, Sharp, TDK, Thomson controlled standard. Sony invented the diodes and Pioneer the discs.
He also stated that he would continue to fight the legal battle until Sony issued an apology and returned the OtherOS funtionality back to the PS3. People donated money to his cause only to see him turn tail and run.
Hmm, advertised a feature, took money from customers, failed to deliver on said promise, where have I heard that before???
I'm curious, exactly what "customers" have they sued? No-one I know who has purchased Sony products had been sued, and I'm sure that people who crack consoles to play pirated games are not customers in the proper sense.
Someone who purchases a hardware product then violates the TOS by distributing hacked software they do not have a right to might be considered a customer that may have legal problems in the future, but would a person who shops at a grocery store and is caught shoplifting be considered a criminal or a customer first?
Nothing wrong with Sony products, I've recently spent $800 on a Sony camera and have about 5 Sony products in the house. The few times I've needed warranty support they've been very helpful, and I've had no issues with compatibility.
The subject has come up at work and any talk of boycotting Sony is met with laughter. I'm convinced the only people claiming to boycott Sony products are a very small minority of angry loners doing it out a "holier than thou" attitude to impress their fellow trolls.
I shop in Canada from both amazon.ca and amazon.com. Sometimes an item is cheeper on one site or the other, so guess what? I just buy from the cheaper one.
Can't really see with this would be labeled as "disreputable" behaviour on Amazon's part
We did have nice things, until some smug, self righteous pirates and punks with entitlement issues decided to hide under the skirts of the FOSS and civil rights communities and fuck things over for the rest of us.
For the first 5 years of the PS3, OtherOS forums were filled with posts along the lines of "I'm using OtherOS and installed a program to rip PS3 games/Blurays, but can't get them to run WTF". Some threads were years old from people searching for "Ripped PS3 Linux" and reposting, hoping someone had a way for them to play their "backup" copies. The homebrew community was essentially non-existent, consisting of ports of bluray rippers and emulators to play hacked roms of old cartridge games.
In fact, the OtherOS feature functioned somewhat as a honeypot for PS3 hackers, thinking they had easy access to the PS3 through OtherOS they spent years flailing away trying to break the OS. And once Geohot managed to demonstrate it was possible to break the OS security through OtherOS, the pirate community smelled blood and redoubled their efforts.
At which point Sony really had no reason to include OtherOS on the new PS3 models. The hacker community didn't raise a fuss, after all they could still use the phat models with OtherOS to develop a crack that would hopefully work on all PS3 models.
When Sony decided to remove it from the phat models, shit hit the fan. With the dream of perpetual free games and complete freedom to jack the PSN network in jeopardy, the pirates freaked out and began a smear campaign against Sony and the PS3 community, even going so far as to deliberately sabotage online play and destroy user accounts.
To hell with Geohot, and a great big single finger salute to all his minions.
"Malicious..: I dont' think that word means what you think it means..
GeoHot may own the hardware but Sony never sold him rights to the software. I own my computer and am accessing SlashDot with it, does that mean that I'm entitled to hack said website and help myself to the user database? After all, I own my computer correct? Denying you rights to software that you didn't purchase and aren't licensed to use is not malicious, other wise we could say the same of the GPL.
The OtherOS update was purely voluntary, you were given the choice between keeping OtherOS OR accessing PSN. How is this malicious? Distributing hacked PS3 firmware updates that steal your credit card info and destroy other players trophy collections can definitely be called malicious, I wonder who's to blame for that?
I see this question come up quite often by people who haven't taken the time to actually read up on the jail-breaking exemptions.
Here's a list of the exemptions granted for jail-breaking your devices. Could you please point out the one that would allow breaking the encryption on the PS3 to play cracked games or add functionality?
Thank you.
- Computer users may now bypass external security devices if they do not longer work and cannot be replaced..
- Phone owners may break access controls on their phones to switch to another wireless carrier.
- It is now allowed to break video game protections to investigate or correct security flaws.
- Allow college professors, film students, filmmakers and producers of non-commercial videos to break copy-protections on DVDs for educational purposes, criticism or commentary.
- Allow blind people to break protections on electronic books so that they can be used with blind-suitable software.
In what way was "the entire customer base" screwed over? A very VERY tiny minority of customers used the other OS feature, and of those only a tiny fraction used it for coding & research. The remainder used it in a futile attempt to hack the console and get their free games. Those that used the PS3 to play games and watch blu-rays didn't lose a damn thing.
Geohot is clearly the villain in this story, defending him by twisting events in an attempts to portray him as some sort of noble Robin Hood archetype are just..well nothing comes to mind but self-righteous loners with entitlement issues.
We had almost 90% of our GX270 desktops (about 200 deployed at the time) fail due to the bad cap issue, and Dell Canada repaired every single one within 24 hours, no questions asked. Since then we’ve had near zero issues with any Dell laptops or desktops (over 1,000 deployed and in use), and the few failures we’ve had since then Dell has fixed without any hassle.
Dell Canada never gave us a hard time over repairs for the bad cap problems. Whenever we placed a support call all it took was a mention of “blown caps” and they immediately sent over a tech & parts for onsite repair. By all accounts we were a “loyal customer” but certainly did not receive “the worst treatment”.
Either Dell USA grossly mishandled the bad cap issue in their own backyard or there were a lot of Dell customers out there that didn’t arrange for proper support (by not purchasing through Dell Corporate) and purposely skimped on their warranties.
The problem with that scenario is that receiving the discs wouldn’t violate any laws, just the act of sending it.
So mailing out those discs of copyrighted material to everyone would only get the sender in trouble, not the recipients.
A point of fact, the “MAFFIA” have never gone after anyone for just receiving or downloading, they’ve only targeted those people who have been distributing without permission of the copyright holders. And if your ignorant enough to be using bittorrent without realizing that it makes you both a downloader and a distributor, then you have no one but yourself to blame when the courts come calling.
Want to avoid the MAFIAA? Stop using torrents, switch to download only.
You could have easily bought the Fallout 3 CE edition; you’re just too damn lazy to go through the effort.
Indeed your post makes it sound like any effort on your part is too much to ask, so pirating is always justified. And if you’re just going to pirate the stuff anyways, then you can’t call yourself a customer. And if you’re not a customer, well, then why should the game companies listen to you?
Dissolving government? Really? The Liberals and NDP, backed by the seditionist Bloc party, twice attempted to force a political coup and overthrown the democratically elected Conservative party. Both times they were rebuffed by the Governor General and the people of Canada.
To this day, neither the Liberals nor NDP have summoned the courage to force an actual election, despite numerous opportunities to do so. Want to blame someone for the Harper government staying in power? Blame the cowards leading the Liberals and NDP.
The G20 debacle was the result of jack-booted extremists, anarchists and paid professional protestors hired by various extremist socialist groups that turned what could have been a peaceful protest into a violent mess. After all, peaceful protests don't get you those precious Twitter and Facebook hits do they...
As for the opposition claims that they were excluded from the Google broadcast of the speech from the throne, never ascribe to malice what can readily be explained by sheer laziness and incompetence.
Exactly, this has nothing to do about science and everything about political posturing. The public service unions are nothing more than extensions of the Federal NDP and regularly pull stunts like this in an attempt to whip up support for their party.
The CBC is union managed and controlled, so focus your ire on the NDP and not the Conservatives. And the CBC is actually protecting themselves from litigation with this ban, there are endless variations of limitations on CC licensing and it would be a nightmare for the CBC to track down and clarify the status of every single piece of CC music they wanted to use.
As for of the claims by some uninformed people that a simple search on the internetz would provide unencumbered music, well, citation needed. Would you bet your job on those results?
Finally, I'm seeing a lot of ant-Harper spam on Slashdot as of late, seems those poor anarchists and jackboot radicals are still smarting from their bad press after the Toronto G20 summit debacle.
The public at large is still very unaware of copyright issues simply because they are not affected by them. Only pirates and those stupidly using P2P distribution systems such as bit-torrent to share content they don't have license for are affected.
All the outrage over copyright issues is from a very very small group that voices their narrow minded self-righteous indignation loudly and shrilly on the internet, where they remain safely anonymous. All the while proclaiming their God given right to free shit and self-dentifying with Ghandi and Rosa Parks.
I think the law and the courts disagree with you on that point, seeding does make you a distributor. If you don't have a license to distribute, then you're infringing, period.
Straight downloading without resorting to P2P is the way to go, absolutely no-one has ever been sued for just downloading.
Copying someone else's work and distributing it without permission or license for free, thus depriving the creator of income counts as theft in my book.
This is not what the FOSS movement is about and it's a shame that so many pirates hide behind the skirts of the Open Source movement to justify their actions. Even worse that so many FOSS supporters turn a blind eye to the practice rather than deal with it directly.
Does making a copy of someone else's content and distributing it for free without license or permission count as theft? You deliberately reduce the value of their work to zero and deprive them of an income, while at the same time gaining the benefit of their work and effort.
Sounds like theft to me.
And the "greed corporate overlords" meme is really just a proxy. It's easier to justify your actions by reasoning that your actually hurting the big bad corporation and not the little guy. Whatever lets you sleep better at night I guess...
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Blu-Rays to me are a durable and convenient way to get High Def content that streaming and DVD can't provide.
If your just cheap and willing to settle for less, then I guess streaming and DVD are the way to go.
Every new release comes out on Blu-Ray and DVD, and they've even started advertising new films as NOW ON BLU-RAY (also on DVD)
Hardly a failing format, but DVD on the other hand...
Whoa, "what is the point of rereleasing old movies on Blu-Ray - like theres gonna be more shades of black and white?" Really??
You realize that the majority of old movies were filmed at a higher resolution than even Blu-Ray can accommodate? Properly mastered, old and even very old films on Blu-Ray blow away the DVD equivalents.
Someone has been watching too much 320p streaming video
Actually, it's a Sony, 20th Century Fox, Dell, Hewlett Packard, Hitachi, LG Electronics, Panasonic, Mitsubishi, Philips, Pioneer, Samsung, Sharp, TDK, Thomson controlled standard. Sony invented the diodes and Pioneer the discs.
He also stated that he would continue to fight the legal battle until Sony issued an apology and returned the OtherOS funtionality back to the PS3. People donated money to his cause only to see him turn tail and run.
Hmm, advertised a feature, took money from customers, failed to deliver on said promise, where have I heard that before???
I'm curious, exactly what "customers" have they sued? No-one I know who has purchased Sony products had been sued, and I'm sure that people who crack consoles to play pirated games are not customers in the proper sense.
Someone who purchases a hardware product then violates the TOS by distributing hacked software they do not have a right to might be considered a customer that may have legal problems in the future, but would a person who shops at a grocery store and is caught shoplifting be considered a criminal or a customer first?
Nothing wrong with Sony products, I've recently spent $800 on a Sony camera and have about 5 Sony products in the house. The few times I've needed warranty support they've been very helpful, and I've had no issues with compatibility.
The subject has come up at work and any talk of boycotting Sony is met with laughter. I'm convinced the only people claiming to boycott Sony products are a very small minority of angry loners doing it out a "holier than thou" attitude to impress their fellow trolls.
I shop in Canada from both amazon.ca and amazon.com. Sometimes an item is cheeper on one site or the other, so guess what? I just buy from the cheaper one.
Can't really see with this would be labeled as "disreputable" behaviour on Amazon's part
We did have nice things, until some smug, self righteous pirates and punks with entitlement issues decided to hide under the skirts of the FOSS and civil rights communities and fuck things over for the rest of us.
For the first 5 years of the PS3, OtherOS forums were filled with posts along the lines of "I'm using OtherOS and installed a program to rip PS3 games/Blurays, but can't get them to run WTF". Some threads were years old from people searching for "Ripped PS3 Linux" and reposting, hoping someone had a way for them to play their "backup" copies. The homebrew community was essentially non-existent, consisting of ports of bluray rippers and emulators to play hacked roms of old cartridge games.
In fact, the OtherOS feature functioned somewhat as a honeypot for PS3 hackers, thinking they had easy access to the PS3 through OtherOS they spent years flailing away trying to break the OS. And once Geohot managed to demonstrate it was possible to break the OS security through OtherOS, the pirate community smelled blood and redoubled their efforts.
At which point Sony really had no reason to include OtherOS on the new PS3 models. The hacker community didn't raise a fuss, after all they could still use the phat models with OtherOS to develop a crack that would hopefully work on all PS3 models.
When Sony decided to remove it from the phat models, shit hit the fan. With the dream of perpetual free games and complete freedom to jack the PSN network in jeopardy, the pirates freaked out and began a smear campaign against Sony and the PS3 community, even going so far as to deliberately sabotage online play and destroy user accounts.
To hell with Geohot, and a great big single finger salute to all his minions.
"Malicious..: I dont' think that word means what you think it means..
GeoHot may own the hardware but Sony never sold him rights to the software. I own my computer and am accessing SlashDot with it, does that mean that I'm entitled to hack said website and help myself to the user database? After all, I own my computer correct? Denying you rights to software that you didn't purchase and aren't licensed to use is not malicious, other wise we could say the same of the GPL.
The OtherOS update was purely voluntary, you were given the choice between keeping OtherOS OR accessing PSN. How is this malicious? Distributing hacked PS3 firmware updates that steal your credit card info and destroy other players trophy collections can definitely be called malicious, I wonder who's to blame for that?
I see this question come up quite often by people who haven't taken the time to actually read up on the jail-breaking exemptions.
Here's a list of the exemptions granted for jail-breaking your devices. Could you please point out the one that would allow breaking the encryption on the PS3 to play cracked games or add functionality?
Thank you.
- Computer users may now bypass external security devices if they do not longer work and cannot be replaced..
- Phone owners may break access controls on their phones to switch to another wireless carrier.
- It is now allowed to break video game protections to investigate or correct security flaws.
- Allow college professors, film students, filmmakers and producers of non-commercial videos to break copy-protections on DVDs for educational purposes, criticism or commentary.
- Allow blind people to break protections on electronic books so that they can be used with blind-suitable software.
In what way was "the entire customer base" screwed over? A very VERY tiny minority of customers used the other OS feature, and of those only a tiny fraction used it for coding & research. The remainder used it in a futile attempt to hack the console and get their free games. Those that used the PS3 to play games and watch blu-rays didn't lose a damn thing.
Geohot is clearly the villain in this story, defending him by twisting events in an attempts to portray him as some sort of noble Robin Hood archetype are just..well nothing comes to mind but self-righteous loners with entitlement issues.
So whatever happened to..
“It is better for one hundred guilty men to go free than one innocent man to go to jail - Thomas Jefferson"
So a few innocents get trampled in the rush of mob justice, isn't that what freedom and democracy is all about?
We had almost 90% of our GX270 desktops (about 200 deployed at the time) fail due to the bad cap issue, and Dell Canada repaired every single one within 24 hours, no questions asked. Since then we’ve had near zero issues with any Dell laptops or desktops (over 1,000 deployed and in use), and the few failures we’ve had since then Dell has fixed without any hassle.
Dell Canada never gave us a hard time over repairs for the bad cap problems. Whenever we placed a support call all it took was a mention of “blown caps” and they immediately sent over a tech & parts for onsite repair. By all accounts we were a “loyal customer” but certainly did not receive “the worst treatment”.
Either Dell USA grossly mishandled the bad cap issue in their own backyard or there were a lot of Dell customers out there that didn’t arrange for proper support (by not purchasing through Dell Corporate) and purposely skimped on their warranties.
The problem with that scenario is that receiving the discs wouldn’t violate any laws, just the act of sending it.
So mailing out those discs of copyrighted material to everyone would only get the sender in trouble, not the recipients.
A point of fact, the “MAFFIA” have never gone after anyone for just receiving or downloading, they’ve only targeted those people who have been distributing without permission of the copyright holders. And if your ignorant enough to be using bittorrent without realizing that it makes you both a downloader and a distributor, then you have no one but yourself to blame when the courts come calling.
Want to avoid the MAFIAA? Stop using torrents, switch to download only.
You could have easily bought the Fallout 3 CE edition; you’re just too damn lazy to go through the effort.
Indeed your post makes it sound like any effort on your part is too much to ask, so pirating is always justified. And if you’re just going to pirate the stuff anyways, then you can’t call yourself a customer. And if you’re not a customer, well, then why should the game companies listen to you?
Dissolving government? Really? The Liberals and NDP, backed by the seditionist Bloc party, twice attempted to force a political coup and overthrown the democratically elected Conservative party. Both times they were rebuffed by the Governor General and the people of Canada.
To this day, neither the Liberals nor NDP have summoned the courage to force an actual election, despite numerous opportunities to do so. Want to blame someone for the Harper government staying in power? Blame the cowards leading the Liberals and NDP.
The G20 debacle was the result of jack-booted extremists, anarchists and paid professional protestors hired by various extremist socialist groups that turned what could have been a peaceful protest into a violent mess. After all, peaceful protests don't get you those precious Twitter and Facebook hits do they...
As for the opposition claims that they were excluded from the Google broadcast of the speech from the throne, never ascribe to malice what can readily be explained by sheer laziness and incompetence.
Exactly, this has nothing to do about science and everything about political posturing. The public service unions are nothing more than extensions of the Federal NDP and regularly pull stunts like this in an attempt to whip up support for their party.
The CBC is union managed and controlled, so focus your ire on the NDP and not the Conservatives. And the CBC is actually protecting themselves from litigation with this ban, there are endless variations of limitations on CC licensing and it would be a nightmare for the CBC to track down and clarify the status of every single piece of CC music they wanted to use.
As for of the claims by some uninformed people that a simple search on the internetz would provide unencumbered music, well, citation needed. Would you bet your job on those results?
Finally, I'm seeing a lot of ant-Harper spam on Slashdot as of late, seems those poor anarchists and jackboot radicals are still smarting from their bad press after the Toronto G20 summit debacle.
The public at large is still very unaware of copyright issues simply because they are not affected by them. Only pirates and those stupidly using P2P distribution systems such as bit-torrent to share content they don't have license for are affected.
All the outrage over copyright issues is from a very very small group that voices their narrow minded self-righteous indignation loudly and shrilly on the internet, where they remain safely anonymous. All the while proclaiming their God given right to free shit and self-dentifying with Ghandi and Rosa Parks.
I think the law and the courts disagree with you on that point, seeding does make you a distributor. If you don't have a license to distribute, then you're infringing, period.
Straight downloading without resorting to P2P is the way to go, absolutely no-one has ever been sued for just downloading.
Copying someone else's work and distributing it without permission or license for free, thus depriving the creator of income counts as theft in my book.
This is not what the FOSS movement is about and it's a shame that so many pirates hide behind the skirts of the Open Source movement to justify their actions. Even worse that so many FOSS supporters turn a blind eye to the practice rather than deal with it directly.
And yet Apple is a member of the Blu-ray Disc Association, the same group that decides such things as licensing.
Apple won't use Blu-ray because they never use new technology, just repackage established tech and slap an "i" prefix on it.
I thought the same thing about the audio CD and DVD, but for some reason they're still being bought & sold. Same with paper books and magazines.
Has this "truckload of tubes" as you put it managed to obsolete any physical media?
Does making a copy of someone else's content and distributing it for free without license or permission count as theft? You deliberately reduce the value of their work to zero and deprive them of an income, while at the same time gaining the benefit of their work and effort.
Sounds like theft to me.
And the "greed corporate overlords" meme is really just a proxy. It's easier to justify your actions by reasoning that your actually hurting the big bad corporation and not the little guy. Whatever lets you sleep better at night I guess...