>What I think would be cool would be couple a relational >file system with a version management tool - you can >find any file and any previous versions of it.
I submit that Microsoft's documentation is not gospel truth, and frequently does not tell the entire tale.
I also submit that Microsoft's tech support doesn't have a publicly viewable ticket database, so it's impossible to get more than an educated guess as to what the majority of sysadmins and MS users ACTUALLY have trouble with.
Finally, I have yet to use a product, Microsoft or F/OSS, that worked EXACTLY as advertised in the printed/online manual, or had completely adequate documentation. =P
Conceded...however, it was my experience that Office 95 = much faster than Office 97, but Office 95 = teh suckz. Office 97 = marginally faster than Office 2k. Office 2k = arguably best of them, much faster than Office XP Office XP = dog slow, but not as slow as Office 2k3.
This is based on personal experience with the machines at work, where we have licenses to all of the above (The horror!)
Based on the rest of the post, I'd say the "delete all" is less for destructive purposes and more to cause a massive oh-shit! reaction that has the side effect (when restoring backups) of making forensics on the worm difficult-to-impossible.
Personally, if I was writing a data-gathering worm, I'd write its final instruction to delete all log data of itself, then delete all code of itself, then delete itself permanantly.
I would hope that the grandparent, when talking about longer release cycles, was referring to major version release cycles.
The open source model of release early, release often is great, when people don't inflate version numbers. =P
You'll note that even the Linux kernel has a very long major version release cycle, and a respectably long MINOR release cycle. The revision/patches keep flowing, but basic kernel functions (mostly) dont' get revved in 18mo or less unless they're severely and completely broken.
Commercial/Cathedral-style software might be better served by lengthening severely the amount of time between 1.x and 2.x, instead of releasing a new one every 18 months or so (Microsoft Office). Especially since most Office users would be happy with Office 97 (and many are!)...what are they adding that makes it slower every year?
I thought the article said that the police got judge's permission (ie, a search warrant) to read the data from the EDS.
Why is this unreasonable again, if they need a search warrant to read the last 5sec of data before a crash?
(I could be on crack. Mod accordingly.)
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I think it might depend on the level of "beat up". The one I had in mind was one an acquaintance (who was a welder) bought for $2500--body was in reasonably bad shape, but the frame and powertrain were twisted beyond repair.
Mostly, the difference for me lies in when applications are complied for their specific platforms.
Grandparent: Granted I haven't used suns for a few years, but I always noticed a rather major improvement when using Sun's own compliers rather than gcc. Maybe some applications show differences more than others?
>I do know that without managers, salesmen, marketeers >and all those other jobs that "geeks" sneer at, said geeks >don't get paid. And for all their talk about "open source", >they all like to be able to pay the rent and buy groceries.
Three fallacies.
I don't sneer at marketers and sales staff except when they lie or exaggerate.
Managers are not necessary except to tell me my budget for the quarter. Right now, I'm in a self-managed team of programmers, and the only part of our budget we don't control is the hardware budget--which is the only thing getting screwed up these days.
ZZZZ. "Open Source" is quite handily paying my bills. We're running modifications to several open source packages, contributing back, and since we're a services company, saving cash on software = big win for us. The only proprietary stuff here is stuff that's useless to anyone but us. (unless you have a spare $15000 in satellite demodulation equipment)
The problem with this theory is that the number of jobs at each level of management drops off much faster at each level (staff ratio ranges from 35-50 teachers to 1 principal to maybe 5 junior lawyers to a partner in a small firm) MUCH MUCH faster than the number of people in each age group declines.
So you're always going to need some older folks in "lower" positions. If everyone above 50 in the military was a staff officer and everyone below 25 was a grunt, we'd have about a 2-1 grunt-to-officer ratio. Ask yourself if that's a good idea. Think carefully.
And when it comes to filling that plethora of low-level positions, be they geeks or teachers, I'm going to want (and give more money to) the guy/girl who's older, has more skills, and is still motivated to stay where they are.
The bad programmers become managers. Good programmers enjoy being programmers.
And as has been said, who adds more value to an organization? The programmer or the manager who screws up his requirements and adds inane, uneducated constraints?
Hint: If you think a manager contributes more to the bottom line than a programmer, you're wrong.
You realize, of course, that in the real world that 1Ghz Sparc is on par with a 2.4Ghz Xeon, right?
Or that the SCSI disk is liable to last 5-7yrs and 40GB IDE is one of the least reliabe HDDs around right now?
That Celeron doesn't even compare. You'd have to Beowulf (imagine... *g*) those three servers to get the performance of that Sparc under real-world (database server etc) conditions. So much for redundancy...
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Alternately, he could be one of those guys who buys a beat-up '67 Shelby Cobra and rebuilds it to working order, having a car that is both as solid as and (IMHO) much much cooler than your stinkin' Viper.
Sometimes people who tinker with PC components are the computer equivalent of ricers.
Sometimes they're not. =P.
As a side note, what the hell's the fun in buying something complete and being done with it? Maybe for something I find tedious, but not for my hobby, no sir. I'm sure the above AC has at least one thing he'd rather do from scratch himself because it's fun for him.
'Twas my reading of history is that Israel was a British possession at the time, and the Brits were the only people willing to give the Jews their own nation (as opposed to just a place to live).
And most of the Arab (and Jewish) population (obviously) lived and lives in places other than Jerusalem.
Honestly, I think the majority of Israelites support a Palestinian state. I know the majority of Arabs who aren't in Palestine at this very second do not. Jordan and Syria have both pressured the Palestinians to maintain their refugee status as a way of destabilizing Israel.
I personally think that if the Arab world wanted to get political capital in the US, Jordan and Syria'd sit down and create a (small) Palestinian nation out of their turf, then ask Israel and the UN to give an equal territory out of Israeli land to this Palestinian state.
*nods* I rather approve of Buddhism myself--I practice Zen as much as possible, though I admit to a vast sea of ignorance concerning the history of Buddhism before the Zen movement.
The RHAS stuff is GPLed, but you get stuff with the RHAS distribution that isn't GPLed.
And, as always, contract provisions such as in Red Hat's agreement are negotiable. I'd personally be surprised if they charged any penalties for honest mistakes or dev machines in small shops.
I think the bottom line for me is that I'll wait to pass judgement on Red Hat until they visibly enforce these terms. When that situation arises, we'll see if they're "evil corporate giant" or "benevolent linux distro trying to make some cash".
I figure you can't use Red Hat Enterprise whatever (the distro) without a license because there is non-GPLed software in the distribution. You can download and install Red Hat Advanced Enterprise whatsit SRPMs and load up a server that's pseudo-RHAS without the proprietary stuff and not pay a red cent. Although I'll admit I'm not sure if that'd count as a RHAS installation if you DID buy a contract for a full version. I also don't remember the GPL policy on having GPL and non-GPL stuff on the same CD (but that's pretty easy to get around by putting the non-GPL stuff on a seperate disc anyway)
The +20% fine is only for particularly "high" non-compliance rates--1 server won't get you the 20% penalty unless you're a very small business. Don't you have to be more than 5% unlicensed? I sorta assume that anyone buying RHAS for the support contract is going to have a freakin' lot of servers, for the most part.
Ironically enough, Muslim/Arab scholars used to be (during the dark ages) regarded as the most advanced scholars, scientists, and doctors the world had yet seen.
It almost seems to me that a post a few back was right--that Islam is going through the same cycles as Christianity, we just have a 600-year head start.
First few centuries -- marginal, growing religion that replaces previous religions.
Next few centuries -- golden age of religious philosophy, learning, study.
Next few centuries -- dark age of dogmatic fundamentalism, superstition, and religious rulership
Repeat 2 and 3 ad infinitum. Hence, the Christian world is setting up for another dogmatic, superstitious, fundamentalist dark age.
I'm going to go research some eastern religions (shinto, buddhism, hinduism) and see if they do the same thing. Anyone know?
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>What I think would be cool would be couple a relational
>file system with a version management tool - you can
>find any file and any previous versions of it.
Didn't VMS do that back in the 80s?
I submit that Microsoft's documentation is not gospel truth, and frequently does not tell the entire tale.
I also submit that Microsoft's tech support doesn't have a publicly viewable ticket database, so it's impossible to get more than an educated guess as to what the majority of sysadmins and MS users ACTUALLY have trouble with.
Finally, I have yet to use a product, Microsoft or F/OSS, that worked EXACTLY as advertised in the printed/online manual, or had completely adequate documentation. =P
Conceded...however, it was my experience that
Office 95 = much faster than Office 97, but Office 95 = teh suckz.
Office 97 = marginally faster than Office 2k.
Office 2k = arguably best of them, much faster than Office XP
Office XP = dog slow, but not as slow as Office 2k3.
This is based on personal experience with the machines at work, where we have licenses to all of the above (The horror!)
Based on the rest of the post, I'd say the "delete all" is less for destructive purposes and more to cause a massive oh-shit! reaction that has the side effect (when restoring backups) of making forensics on the worm difficult-to-impossible.
Personally, if I was writing a data-gathering worm, I'd write its final instruction to delete all log data of itself, then delete all code of itself, then delete itself permanantly.
No one ever need know I have all their data. =)
I would hope that the grandparent, when talking about longer release cycles, was referring to major version release cycles.
The open source model of release early, release often is great, when people don't inflate version numbers. =P
You'll note that even the Linux kernel has a very long major version release cycle, and a respectably long MINOR release cycle. The revision/patches keep flowing, but basic kernel functions (mostly) dont' get revved in 18mo or less unless they're severely and completely broken.
Commercial/Cathedral-style software might be better served by lengthening severely the amount of time between 1.x and 2.x, instead of releasing a new one every 18 months or so (Microsoft Office).
Especially since most Office users would be happy with Office 97 (and many are!)...what are they adding that makes it slower every year?
...good Christ, but that's a lot of profit!
I thought the article said that the police got judge's permission (ie, a search warrant) to read the data from the EDS.
Why is this unreasonable again, if they need a search warrant to read the last 5sec of data before a crash?
(I could be on crack. Mod accordingly.)
I think it might depend on the level of "beat up". The one I had in mind was one an acquaintance (who was a welder) bought for $2500--body was in reasonably bad shape, but the frame and powertrain were twisted beyond repair.
Mostly, the difference for me lies in when applications are complied for their specific platforms.
Grandparent: Granted I haven't used suns for a few years, but I always noticed a rather major improvement when using Sun's own compliers rather than gcc. Maybe some applications show differences more than others?
Pardon me, sir, but your jealousy is showing.
Good news: Yes, she does. ...stop thinking that. I WILL remove parts of your anatomy. =P
Bad news: Said sister is 11.
>and all those other jobs that "geeks" sneer at, said geeks
>don't get paid. And for all their talk about "open source",
>they all like to be able to pay the rent and buy groceries.
Three fallacies.
In short...Bzzt, wrong, thanks for playing.
The problem with this theory is that the number of jobs at each level of management drops off much faster at each level (staff ratio ranges from 35-50 teachers to 1 principal to maybe 5 junior lawyers to a partner in a small firm) MUCH MUCH faster than the number of people in each age group declines.
So you're always going to need some older folks in "lower" positions.
If everyone above 50 in the military was a staff officer and everyone below 25 was a grunt, we'd have about a 2-1 grunt-to-officer ratio. Ask yourself if that's a good idea. Think carefully.
And when it comes to filling that plethora of low-level positions, be they geeks or teachers, I'm going to want (and give more money to) the guy/girl who's older, has more skills, and is still motivated to stay where they are.
The bad programmers become managers. Good programmers enjoy being programmers.
And as has been said, who adds more value to an organization? The programmer or the manager who screws up his requirements and adds inane, uneducated constraints?
Hint: If you think a manager contributes more to the bottom line than a programmer, you're wrong.
(retraction at bottom of comment ignored *g*)
>Knock yourselves out compiling the newest kernel; I'll be
>out having a blast with my girlfriend in my Porsche.
*grins* Knock yourself our in your tiny-ass car, I'll be compiling my kernel from the comfort of my bed with my geek fiancee. =P
You realize, of course, that in the real world that 1Ghz Sparc is on par with a 2.4Ghz Xeon, right?
Or that the SCSI disk is liable to last 5-7yrs and 40GB IDE is one of the least reliabe HDDs around right now?
That Celeron doesn't even compare. You'd have to Beowulf (imagine... *g*) those three servers to get the performance of that Sparc under real-world (database server etc) conditions. So much for redundancy...
Alternately, he could be one of those guys who buys a beat-up '67 Shelby Cobra and rebuilds it to working order, having a car that is both as solid as and (IMHO) much much cooler than your stinkin' Viper.
Sometimes people who tinker with PC components are the computer equivalent of ricers.
Sometimes they're not. =P.
As a side note, what the hell's the fun in buying something complete and being done with it? Maybe for something I find tedious, but not for my hobby, no sir. I'm sure the above AC has at least one thing he'd rather do from scratch himself because it's fun for him.
I think we need a lawyer--we're two reasonable people, both red hat users, who're looking at the same license clause and seeing two different things.
I'm glad my employer uses standard RH9. =P
'Twas my reading of history is that Israel was a British possession at the time, and the Brits were the only people willing to give the Jews their own nation (as opposed to just a place to live).
And most of the Arab (and Jewish) population (obviously) lived and lives in places other than Jerusalem.
Honestly, I think the majority of Israelites support a Palestinian state. I know the majority of Arabs who aren't in Palestine at this very second do not. Jordan and Syria have both pressured the Palestinians to maintain their refugee status as a way of destabilizing Israel.
I personally think that if the Arab world wanted to get political capital in the US, Jordan and Syria'd sit down and create a (small) Palestinian nation out of their turf, then ask Israel and the UN to give an equal territory out of Israeli land to this Palestinian state.
*nods* I rather approve of Buddhism myself--I practice Zen as much as possible, though I admit to a vast sea of ignorance concerning the history of Buddhism before the Zen movement.
The RHAS stuff is GPLed, but you get stuff with the RHAS distribution that isn't GPLed.
And, as always, contract provisions such as in Red Hat's agreement are negotiable. I'd personally be surprised if they charged any penalties for honest mistakes or dev machines in small shops.
I think the bottom line for me is that I'll wait to pass judgement on Red Hat until they visibly enforce these terms. When that situation arises, we'll see if they're "evil corporate giant" or "benevolent linux distro trying to make some cash".
Bzzt! Wrong!
The Open Group are the people who tell you if you're an official UNIX or not. SCO merely has (some of) the rights to the ancestral sources.
You raise some interesting points, tho.
Stupid can't-proofread me. s/legal/illegal in last sentence of 2nd paragraph.
Nothing inherently illegal about contracts specifiying audits.
It almost seems to me that a post a few back was right--that Islam is going through the same cycles as Christianity, we just have a 600-year head start.
Repeat 2 and 3 ad infinitum. Hence, the Christian world is setting up for another dogmatic, superstitious, fundamentalist dark age.
I'm going to go research some eastern religions (shinto, buddhism, hinduism) and see if they do the same thing. Anyone know?