...and you succicntly described the point of Lindows--to emulate windows. Including things being not quite free-as-in-beer, and the guts being hidden unless you go digging.
You or I hate that. My mom loves it. It makes sense to her that the guts are hidden. And while "free software" still makes her think of crappy shareware games and spyware screen savers, once you put that $4.95/mo fee on there, suddenly it becomes "a great value compared to that windows stuff".
Lindows is an exercise in creative packaging. They're selling a service (click-n-run). If you don't like it, use something else.
Re:Shared Source is better than open source.
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Man, what happened? You used to be a, nay, THE classic example of the "well-meaning dimwit" troll.
Now you're just reaching. Sad how some folks don't know enough to retire when the start going downhill.
Yeesh, the anecdotal evidence. Fine, I counter with my workplace: two dozen linux boxes, most homebuilt, some as old as 1994, maybe six hardware failures total since 1994. =P
Now that we've established a pair of meaningless data points at either end of the spectrum, real evidence please?
Which is exactly why I wish mac zealots would get less offended when it's pointed out that Macs consistently benchmark slower.
I use all three major platforms, myself. I like the Mac's software support and desktop, I use Win2k for gaming, and Linux is where my development work happens because of the plethora of free tools.
Sure, in raw clocks the Linux/Win2k box outperforms the Mac. But Mac has other things going for it.
So stop trying to claim you're faster in raw speed. You're wrong, and more importantly, your fans don't really care.
Delivering a product with the click-through agreement and license terms shown beforehand is presumed legal and the license is binding. Signatures and witnesses are not required, all that's required is a clear display of terms and an action. Having a notice that says "Here's the GPL, you can download if you agree" is exactly the same (legally) as the implied contract to buy something for the price on the sticker in the grocery store (when a retailer has a malfunction in their pricing/scanning systems that results in a higher price being charged than is listed on the sticker, they can be held liable for fraud and violation of contract). The act of offering is their "signature", and the act of paying/downloading is yours.
EULAs that are shown after the product sale are presumed non-binding by the doctrine of first sale. See many previous posts by many people about closing a deal on your house and then finding a terms of use stapled to the front door after the fact. AFTER THE FACT. Those words are the key difference between a valid license contract and an invalid (mostly) EULA. Not signatures, not witnesses. Timing.
Sour grapes. It's not surprising, really--I mean, as much as we don't always like to admit it, F/OSS is very ego-driven at times. When a big ego attached to a useful project deflates, it ain't pretty.
I'd imagine it's in the timezone that the Mayans were in, which I think corresponds to US Eastern or maybe US Central (-5 / -6).
Eh, like most "occult scientists" his math is right on, but his assumption (specifically that the Mayans knew WTF they were talking about) is probably invalid for any kind of real prediction.
*laf* In my opinion, there's a difference between being trolled (i.e, posting something that's a rebuttal of your point) and laughing at a weak troll (i.e, calling you an idiot).
Incidentally, you were a weak troll and you still are a weak troll.
I dunno. I'm a wargaming fan myself, and I tend to prefer games with dice.
But mostly that's because I know that IRL, sometimes that tiny blocking force actually DOES hold against a much larger army for 3xlonger than it has any right to.
Games are more fun when fortunes of war have an effect (as opposed to non-random wargames like Diplomacy).
...considering the girl got it, I'd say it was more "attentive to her hobbies" than "pathetic".
As an aside, I'd be willing to bet that the class of Slashdotters that are most likely to be single are the ones who always troll in this vein (i.e., geeks don't know about women, no one on slashdot has a girl evar, etc.)
Sheesh. I get paid to create open-source software.
For that matter, it's only biased towards open-source software in that it's logically impossible for an open-source program to produce a closed document format.
Because until a child reaches a certain age, usually between 12-15 (but it depends on the child), they are not capable of making coherent decisions in most situations. That's why we call them "children", as distinguished from "adults".
By your logic, when I had infectious pneumonia when I was 8, my parents should have let me suffer for months or die/be crippled. After all, I had absolutely no desire to take the large antibiotic pills prescribed, and had to be forced.
"if there werent any side effects they'd be over the counter and everyone would be taking them."
And hey, at the time they were about three years from discovering conclusively that antibiotics, used carelessly, could aid in the creation of antibiotic-resistant strains of bacteria. So they didn't have any idea of that "side effect".
By your logic, "if there werent any side effects they'd be over the counter and everyone would be taking them." and my parents were in the wrong.
YHBS. YAAT. YHL. (You have been spotted. You are a troll. You have lost--because a troll isn't successful unless they remain undetected, regardless of whether they attract replies.)
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> Who gives you or I the right to decide which traits and good and which are bad?
I give me that right. And if I'm paying for the upkeep and raising of a child, I have the right to medicate his/her disorders as well.
No one is tying anyone of legal age down and forcing them to take ritalin.
Incidentally, very competent trolling. YHBS. (You have been spotted (as a troll) =P )
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...and you succicntly described the point of Lindows--to emulate windows. Including things being not quite free-as-in-beer, and the guts being hidden unless you go digging.
You or I hate that. My mom loves it. It makes sense to her that the guts are hidden. And while "free software" still makes her think of crappy shareware games and spyware screen savers, once you put that $4.95/mo fee on there, suddenly it becomes "a great value compared to that windows stuff".
Lindows is an exercise in creative packaging. They're selling a service (click-n-run). If you don't like it, use something else.
Man, what happened? You used to be a, nay, THE classic example of the "well-meaning dimwit" troll.
Now you're just reaching. Sad how some folks don't know enough to retire when the start going downhill.
My labor on computers is valued in negative dollars, because I enjoy hardware hacking enough that it counts as entertainment.
I'd say that most homebuilders feel similarly.
Yeesh, the anecdotal evidence. Fine, I counter with my workplace: two dozen linux boxes, most homebuilt, some as old as 1994, maybe six hardware failures total since 1994. =P
Now that we've established a pair of meaningless data points at either end of the spectrum, real evidence please?
No, you doof, he's complaining about not being able to buy a desktop PC with a G3/G4/G5 processor from anyone but Apple.
> reliable, more useful Mac instead.
Faster? Maybe. Close enough to parity that 95% of computer users couldn't tell you the difference.
More reliable? Not compared to my linux box, methinks. Or my Win2k box.
More useful? Ah, here's the rub. Define useful:
So for MY dollar, my dual boot Linux/Win2k machine is "most useful". YOUR mileage may vary.
Christ, why do we have to keep having these holy wars?
Which is exactly why I wish mac zealots would get less offended when it's pointed out that Macs consistently benchmark slower.
I use all three major platforms, myself. I like the Mac's software support and desktop, I use Win2k for gaming, and Linux is where my development work happens because of the plethora of free tools.
Sure, in raw clocks the Linux/Win2k box outperforms the Mac. But Mac has other things going for it.
So stop trying to claim you're faster in raw speed. You're wrong, and more importantly, your fans don't really care.
Delivering a product with the click-through agreement and license terms shown beforehand is presumed legal and the license is binding. Signatures and witnesses are not required, all that's required is a clear display of terms and an action. Having a notice that says "Here's the GPL, you can download if you agree" is exactly the same (legally) as the implied contract to buy something for the price on the sticker in the grocery store (when a retailer has a malfunction in their pricing/scanning systems that results in a higher price being charged than is listed on the sticker, they can be held liable for fraud and violation of contract). The act of offering is their "signature", and the act of paying/downloading is yours.
EULAs that are shown after the product sale are presumed non-binding by the doctrine of first sale. See many previous posts by many people about closing a deal on your house and then finding a terms of use stapled to the front door after the fact.
AFTER THE FACT. Those words are the key difference between a valid license contract and an invalid (mostly) EULA. Not signatures, not witnesses. Timing.
And you both made my point effectively. That is that someone, somewhere can do it, so we don't have to. =P
If you'd have read the parent, you'd realize that he said the USA gave lessons, not that the USA is giving lessons.
Believe it or not (and as a current USian, I barely believe it), there was a time when this country was actually more or less free and democratic.
Now it's closer to less. Much closer.
Sour grapes. It's not surprising, really--I mean, as much as we don't always like to admit it, F/OSS is very ego-driven at times. When a big ego attached to a useful project deflates, it ain't pretty.
I'd imagine it's in the timezone that the Mayans were in, which I think corresponds to US Eastern or maybe US Central (-5 / -6).
Eh, like most "occult scientists" his math is right on, but his assumption (specifically that the Mayans knew WTF they were talking about) is probably invalid for any kind of real prediction.
Possibly more to the point, do YOU know how to make stainless steel? Does anyone you know have that knowledge?
The beauty of the GPL, of course, is that anyone who wants to can pick this up from the last public code release and work from there.
*laf* In my opinion, there's a difference between being trolled (i.e, posting something that's a rebuttal of your point) and laughing at a weak troll (i.e, calling you an idiot).
Incidentally, you were a weak troll and you still are a weak troll.
I dunno. I'm a wargaming fan myself, and I tend to prefer games with dice.
But mostly that's because I know that IRL, sometimes that tiny blocking force actually DOES hold against a much larger army for 3xlonger than it has any right to.
Games are more fun when fortunes of war have an effect (as opposed to non-random wargames like Diplomacy).
Let me use words you'll understand.
You. Are. An. Idiot.
...considering the girl got it, I'd say it was more "attentive to her hobbies" than "pathetic".
As an aside, I'd be willing to bet that the class of Slashdotters that are most likely to be single are the ones who always troll in this vein (i.e., geeks don't know about women, no one on slashdot has a girl evar, etc.)
One can desire to understand how a good hash table algorithm works without coding their own (except as an exercise in understanding, perhaps?)
You do not understand the issues.
Open formats for data != open access to the data contained therein.
Sheesh. I get paid to create open-source software.
For that matter, it's only biased towards open-source software in that it's logically impossible for an open-source program to produce a closed document format.
Bah, I'm a libertarian type, and *I* know that obfuscated file formats are a kind of coercion. =P
It seems to me that if said "cultural tolerance" message is "tolerance of a totalitarian regieme", then it might well be modded down.
Because until a child reaches a certain age, usually between 12-15 (but it depends on the child), they are not capable of making coherent decisions in most situations. That's why we call them "children", as distinguished from "adults".
By your logic, when I had infectious pneumonia when I was 8, my parents should have let me suffer for months or die/be crippled. After all, I had absolutely no desire to take the large antibiotic pills prescribed, and had to be forced.
"if there werent any side effects they'd be over the counter and everyone would be taking them."
And hey, at the time they were about three years from discovering conclusively that antibiotics, used carelessly, could aid in the creation of antibiotic-resistant strains of bacteria. So they didn't have any idea of that "side effect".
By your logic, "if there werent any side effects they'd be over the counter and everyone would be taking them." and my parents were in the wrong.
YHBS. YAAT. YHL.
(You have been spotted. You are a troll. You have lost--because a troll isn't successful unless they remain undetected, regardless of whether they attract replies.)
> Who gives you or I the right to decide which traits and good and which are bad?
I give me that right. And if I'm paying for the upkeep and raising of a child, I have the right to medicate his/her disorders as well.
No one is tying anyone of legal age down and forcing them to take ritalin.
Incidentally, very competent trolling. YHBS. (You have been spotted (as a troll) =P )