If you're not paying for a service contract, you can install as many copies of advanced server as you want.
If you ARE paying for a service contract, you have to pay for a contract on all your advanced server machines so as to avoid unethical customers magically changing which machine out of five has the service contract at any one time.
As far as I understand, audits as a contract stipulation are perfectly legal as long as they're worked out in advance and agreed by both parties.
Hostile audits (BSA tactics) are or ought be illegal, but contractually-stipulated audits are the same thing as me saying to you "I give you permission to come into my house and look around at some future date of your choosing." There is nothing inherently legal about that.
Now, if you show up at the door without me agreeing and demand to search the place, THAT'S illegal.
That's what they're saying. The service contract + additional machines stipulation only applies if you're running 6 copies of RHAS instead of the 3 you signed up for.
It would seem to me that Red Hat, in the time it's been offering its Advanced Server product, hasn't audited anyone who's been sufficiently upset by it to complain publicly.
Contrast with the BSA/Microsoft--their "audits" are more akin to "raids", with all the hostility implied.
I'm with Michael on this one. Red Hat offers support per-server-installation. If you want the support, you have to buy it for all servers, because otherwise you can buy one contract and just sorta fudge which server it's actually attached to at any given time.
Coupled with reasonable restrictions on these audits, I see no reason to be worried about this. As has been said, if you don't want Red Hat's service contract, you can copy the GPLed bits of RHAS to your heart's content.
Read the GPL again. If the military takes an OSS app, mods it for own use, and doesn't distribute it, then the source stays with them. They are under no obligation to release it to anyone they don't want to.
If someone DOES release it, then the source is open. But I'm using a GPLed app modified here right now. It's distributed with sources to everyone in the company, perfectly legally. No one else can see that code until I or another employee chooses to distribute it outside the company.
A. Most currently operated aircraft were built before 1989, IIRC. No references on that one, but I'm working from remembering that everything but the latest-model 737s and half the 747s are the only Boeing products more recent than that.
B. The FCC regulation isn't about disrupting avionics, it's about what a cellphone moving at 400mph at high altitude does to the United State's (antiquated) cell network.
Heck, even at this place I work, there are two decrees:
1. All company machines get audited internally at least every six months, and license issues are dealt with ASAP (same-day, even)...however... 2. Anyone titled at "manager" or above is entitled to walk off with company-owned software, no questions asked and no license records kept.
Now, I don't really understand the hypocrisy involved here, but I wonder how common this sort of practice is--I'd imagine it's more common than poor license practices at work.
They're also allowed to bring in personal machines for me to get paid to troubleshoot on company time, but that's hardly relevant. =P
I had that problem before...what it usually indicates is that OO.o doesn't recognize the file format used. Are you sure the ISS scanner is emititng legal Word.docs, or is the.doc extension just being used generically?
Try opening it in Kwrite (or wordpad, or any other basic word processor)
*shrug* I don't know if it's as common as you think -- I work at a small (~20 employees) software company, and we're positively rabid about license compliance. Heck, we even have a WinZip site license.
You realize that most airliners being flown today were built before the current cellphone standards exist, right? Of course, new aircraft are going to be safer with regards to wireless interference, but older craft (where older is anything designed/built before 1989 or so) weren't designed with this in mind.
World Hunger is a political problem, not a scientific one.
As in, there already IS enough food for everybody. All you gotta do is convince the leaders and food producers to give it away for the price the market can bear.
Speaking as a recorded musician, when you cover someone else's song (publishing/performance rights), generally you pay $0 for performance and approx 4-8 cents per song per disc for publishing rights.
Heck, we released a cd that was 95% covers (we're an acapella group, sue us =P) and I don't think the original writers of the songs made more than $1 total (divided by 22).
I apologise for the misdating of the first arab vs. israeli wars, but you're misinformed nonetheless. Any palestinians who returned under the israeli offer of amnesty to the refugees (Which extended into the 1960s) were given their old land back as much as possible.
The Palestinians are living in the "occupied territories" because they bought the Arab FUD that the Jews would kill them etc. + the Islamic ruling that you were no longer to be considered a Muslim (by some sects) if you accepted the Jew's offer.
...and like any other stimulant, it can cause problems if your nervous system is sensitive to that sort of thing. Especially if you have a low-level (i.e. symptomless) case of Parkinson's or epilepsy.
I don't think it's been linked to any other problems, though.
In MY day, trolling was an ART. People wrote believable but totally false posts and waited for the gullible masses to dogpile them with flames, then responded with a simple "YHBT".
Nowadays, with all the artless "FP" trolls and the wannabes who keep posting the same stupid crap (such as the above, the old man porn, and the hLife letter), it's almost impossible to find a REAL troll.
Oh, well, I suppose the talentless hacks have to do something to pretend they're actually trolling.
It takes an average of 4-6 years for economic policies at the elected federal level to take effect. This current recession has its roots in the dot-com bubble and the Clinton era, just as Bush Sr's recession (which was hardly a blip for most folks, as I recall) was more Reagan's fault than anything else.
You'll note that, historically speaking, many companies that launched at the same time VA Linux did had a huge overvaluation for a time. This is that "dot-com bubble" people keep talking about.
You'll also note that a very large percentage of companies founded/IPOed during that time period went out of business or were bought up. VA Linux, OTOH, survived as a viable company. Not necessarily a terribly highly valued company, but a viable one.
The bottom line, since I'm feeding the troll anyway, is that stock price is indicative of consumer perception of a company's performance, no more no less. That lots of morons thought VA Linux was worth $300/share a few years ago doesn't mean they were worth any more than the $0.60 they're worth now (and I suspect they're moderately undervalued), it means people THOUGHT they were worth more.
I think many of you guys could stand to take a few Finance and Economics courses.
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If you're not paying for a service contract, you can install as many copies of advanced server as you want.
If you ARE paying for a service contract, you have to pay for a contract on all your advanced server machines so as to avoid unethical customers magically changing which machine out of five has the service contract at any one time.
Clear?
As far as I understand, audits as a contract stipulation are perfectly legal as long as they're worked out in advance and agreed by both parties.
Hostile audits (BSA tactics) are or ought be illegal, but contractually-stipulated audits are the same thing as me saying to you "I give you permission to come into my house and look around at some future date of your choosing." There is nothing inherently legal about that.
Now, if you show up at the door without me agreeing and demand to search the place, THAT'S illegal.
THANK YOU for the most succinct and easy-to-understand analogy describing what this is about.
I wish I had mod points right now.
That's what they're saying. The service contract + additional machines stipulation only applies if you're running 6 copies of RHAS instead of the 3 you signed up for.
It would seem to me that Red Hat, in the time it's been offering its Advanced Server product, hasn't audited anyone who's been sufficiently upset by it to complain publicly.
Contrast with the BSA/Microsoft--their "audits" are more akin to "raids", with all the hostility implied.
I'm with Michael on this one. Red Hat offers support per-server-installation. If you want the support, you have to buy it for all servers, because otherwise you can buy one contract and just sorta fudge which server it's actually attached to at any given time.
Coupled with reasonable restrictions on these audits, I see no reason to be worried about this. As has been said, if you don't want Red Hat's service contract, you can copy the GPLed bits of RHAS to your heart's content.
Read the GPL again. If the military takes an OSS app, mods it for own use, and doesn't distribute it, then the source stays with them. They are under no obligation to release it to anyone they don't want to.
If someone DOES release it, then the source is open.
But I'm using a GPLed app modified here right now. It's distributed with sources to everyone in the company, perfectly legally. No one else can see that code until I or another employee chooses to distribute it outside the company.
Well, yeah, but:
A. Most currently operated aircraft were built before 1989, IIRC. No references on that one, but I'm working from remembering that everything but the latest-model 737s and half the 747s are the only Boeing products more recent than that.
B. The FCC regulation isn't about disrupting avionics, it's about what a cellphone moving at 400mph at high altitude does to the United State's (antiquated) cell network.
*grins* I know exactly what you mean.
...however...
Heck, even at this place I work, there are two decrees:
1. All company machines get audited internally at least every six months, and license issues are dealt with ASAP (same-day, even)
2. Anyone titled at "manager" or above is entitled to walk off with company-owned software, no questions asked and no license records kept.
Now, I don't really understand the hypocrisy involved here, but I wonder how common this sort of practice is--I'd imagine it's more common than poor license practices at work.
They're also allowed to bring in personal machines for me to get paid to troubleshoot on company time, but that's hardly relevant. =P
Lord only knows, but the trolls here aren't even as good as Tannock, for chrissake. At least he wrote his own drivel. =P
I'm WC-Mastermind, btw.
I had that problem before...what it usually indicates is that OO.o doesn't recognize the file format used. Are you sure the ISS scanner is emititng legal Word .docs, or is the .doc extension just being used generically?
Try opening it in Kwrite (or wordpad, or any other basic word processor)
*shrug* I don't know if it's as common as you think -- I work at a small (~20 employees) software company, and we're positively rabid about license compliance. Heck, we even have a WinZip site license.
You realize that most airliners being flown today were built before the current cellphone standards exist, right?
Of course, new aircraft are going to be safer with regards to wireless interference, but older craft (where older is anything designed/built before 1989 or so) weren't designed with this in mind.
World Hunger is a political problem, not a scientific one.
As in, there already IS enough food for everybody. All you gotta do is convince the leaders and food producers to give it away for the price the market can bear.
TC, I'd have thought you'd have learned from Acenet that feeding the trolls does one no good. =P
Speaking as a recorded musician, when you cover someone else's song (publishing/performance rights), generally you pay $0 for performance and approx 4-8 cents per song per disc for publishing rights.
Heck, we released a cd that was 95% covers (we're an acapella group, sue us =P) and I don't think the original writers of the songs made more than $1 total (divided by 22).
*snore* I live in farm country. I buy beef from people whose cattle I can visit. =P
*nods* Same reason I buy organically raised beef and chicken. Better taste, happier animal, fewer poisons.
I apologise for the misdating of the first arab vs. israeli wars, but you're misinformed nonetheless. Any palestinians who returned under the israeli offer of amnesty to the refugees (Which extended into the 1960s) were given their old land back as much as possible.
The Palestinians are living in the "occupied territories" because they bought the Arab FUD that the Jews would kill them etc. + the Islamic ruling that you were no longer to be considered a Muslim (by some sects) if you accepted the Jew's offer.
I suppose it'll shoot my karma to admit I was trying to be modded funny, too. =P
...and like any other stimulant, it can cause problems if your nervous system is sensitive to that sort of thing. Especially if you have a low-level (i.e. symptomless) case of Parkinson's or epilepsy.
I don't think it's been linked to any other problems, though.
In MY day, trolling was an ART. People wrote believable but totally false posts and waited for the gullible masses to dogpile them with flames, then responded with a simple "YHBT".
Nowadays, with all the artless "FP" trolls and the wannabes who keep posting the same stupid crap (such as the above, the old man porn, and the hLife letter), it's almost impossible to find a REAL troll.
Oh, well, I suppose the talentless hacks have to do something to pretend they're actually trolling.
What plethora of formats? Everyone knows there's only the Word *.doc format!
Yes, yes...but WHICH Word *.doc format?
(By my recollection there've been at least four slightly incompatible ones. (95, 97, 2k/XP, 2k3))
I don't know what HE'S saying, but I know MY kids won't get to carry around that kind of cash until they work for it themselves.
Thus, they need explicit parental consent or they can't afford it.
Kid's free to do whatever he wants with his free time, but not with my money. =P
Of course, when he's 16 and gets a real job, then he can buy whatever he wants.
It takes an average of 4-6 years for economic policies at the elected federal level to take effect. This current recession has its roots in the dot-com bubble and the Clinton era, just as Bush Sr's recession (which was hardly a blip for most folks, as I recall) was more Reagan's fault than anything else.
You'll note that, historically speaking, many companies that launched at the same time VA Linux did had a huge overvaluation for a time. This is that "dot-com bubble" people keep talking about.
You'll also note that a very large percentage of companies founded/IPOed during that time period went out of business or were bought up. VA Linux, OTOH, survived as a viable company. Not necessarily a terribly highly valued company, but a viable one.
The bottom line, since I'm feeding the troll anyway, is that stock price is indicative of consumer perception of a company's performance, no more no less. That lots of morons thought VA Linux was worth $300/share a few years ago doesn't mean they were worth any more than the $0.60 they're worth now (and I suspect they're moderately undervalued), it means people THOUGHT they were worth more.
I think many of you guys could stand to take a few Finance and Economics courses.