I agree - I haven't heared much out of Borland (or anyone else for that matter) about cool things done in Kylix. Still, The freeware JCL Library http://www.delphi-jedi.org/ will be out on Kylix soon, and I will get around to porting my freeware to Kylix sometime after that. I've been busy at work, ya know how it is.
Anyway, to drift back onto topic, it is worth remembering that Kylix 2.0, if when it ships (and I hope Borland is taking a long-term view on this one and keeps plugging at it), will include Borland C++ Builder. Yup Borland C++ On linux will be another C++ option.
It would be nice to leave it unsterilized. We could then do things like amplify the DNA
IANAB (I am not a biologist, but while it is reasonable to assume that et life would use the same (ie only known workable) chemistry of carbon, it is unlikely that exactly the same molecules, ie DNA would be used, in the same way. If Martian life used DNA in the same way as earthly life instead of some other possible encoding mechanism, it would be a very very strong indicator that the two shared a common ancestor. Likely? I don't know.
But anyway, mars is barren So these guys are coutning thier chickens way before they are hatched.
There's plenty of time. All you have to do is finish part 1 of 3, and get a bit into part II by November-ish when the first movie comes out. Then you've got another yeat to finish vol 2 before the second movie comes out, and another year again for vol 3.
The last I read is that the movie is quite close to the book(s) - ie the biggest changes are to edit some of the dialog & cut out a few uniportant passages, so in terms of plot there is no possibility of spoilage - If you've read LOTR you know what's going to happen.
But OK, I admit I'm dying to see what the Balrog and black riders look like in this rendition, and will resist watching pirated video files until I've seen it on the big screen.
What XP effectively is doing.. is fragmenting Windows over numerous releases.
Uh, no. Windows is *already* a fragmented platform. I know, I've had to write software that runs on "windows" and spent time debugging it on 98, Nt4 and Win2K.
XP signals the end of the 95->98 codebase, and will eventually bring everyone onto the NT/2000 codebase.
Believe me, this is a good thing (I've worked with my buggy programs on both. The NT platform is far more stable under condtions of stray pointers).
Linux, BSD, Atheos and other open OS's taking over the world would would be a better thing, but that doesn't make XP a bad thing, fragmentation-wise.
Sunday, Bloody Sunday" was written when U2 was visiting Libya and they saw the US bomb... It's not anti-terrorism, it's anti-United States
Oh really, I always thought that it refered to an event in Northern Ireland's history in 1972 that, unlike the bombing of Libya, is still refered to as "Bloody sunday", and that it was a call to end sectarian violence. See http://larkspirit.com/bloodysunday/ for a clue. U2 are an irish band, and not everything revolves around the US.
This is just a company trying to be sensitive to people who have had their lives shattered by hate-filled people, and playing songs about plane crashes, death, strife, et. al
That does seem to be the aim - otherwise why would they ban Talking Head's dada-psychobable funk track "burning down the house" which isn't about violence, it isn't anything coherent at all. Some idiot thought the title might remind someone. Having coped with loss a while back I can tell you that this is a pointless excercise. You get reminded of the loss by the oddest stuff, and there is no way around this but through the grief.
But it's an ill-chosen, dumb, arbitrary, partisan list - that elvis track, and Loius Armstrong singing "wonderfull world" are out - WTF??
Forth is different; in Forth you don't transform the problem into a form which fits the language; instead, you transform the language into a form that fits the solution domain.
And how is this different from OO?
I realise that Forth has little in common with C++ or Java, but the whole point of OO is that you can define new types that model the solution domain. So in Forth you define new 'words' that model the solution domain, and this is so very different?
he fact that they're using Object Pascal will bode to be an even bigger task at that
Could you give reasons why you say that? How well do you know Delphi/Object Pascal? How much experience do you have in Delphi.. or is your opinion just ignorance? I suggest you read some of the other posts in this dicussion on the topic.
It is our duty as Americans to protest and commit acts of civil disobiedience when we believe a law is unjust.
You make it sound like it was just an American thing:) It is our right as free human beings to do this. As a South African, I can think of other instances of unjust laws and resistance to them.
After 1/2 an hour reading his specs, D looks a bit raw but quite cool. C++ is the foundation, Java is an influenece & I am sure there are others. Object properties work rather like in Delphi or C#, enums remind me of Pascal.
D will probably be good fun to use when it's ready.
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This essay... In short, it's too big for Slashdot.
I always thought that for something to be patented it had to be non obvious, and the product of creative thought.
For me the main message of this article is that what is 'human creativity' and what is 'mechanicial number crunching' is a moving target.
Remember when mere machines couldn't... play grandmaster level chess... prove geometry theorems.. add numbers together.
I've said it before (actually others said it first) but 'that which makes us human' is usually equivalent to 'that which we can't get a machine to do... yet'.
And this technique will in time, I hope, collide head on with the patent system.
Great post, but IMHO any 3-year CS course that aims to teach only one language is going about things completely the wrong way.
You should spend time in (for e.g.) a simple teaching language to start off, 1 mainstream procedural/OO language, one functional language, one scripting language and study briefly a sampling of languages of comercial or academic interest, and what makes them interesting or sucessfull.
IMHO when you learn your second language is when you start to 'get it' about what is an essential feature, and what is an accident of syntax or history in programming.
I wouldn't call knowing only 1 language a "the Computer Science Student mentality" because a CS graduate should definitely not know just one language - they should know how to pick up any language quickly, having had practice at it.
.... rant to the effect that we musn't blame MS for the instabilities of 3rd party drivers...
Actually we should blame MS - it was a deliberate decision on MS's part to put speed over stability - ie to put the video etc. drivers into the kernel level in NT4 onwards, for increased speed as the expense of them being able to bring down the whole OS if they crashed.
My understanding is that BORLAND is helping fund the QT effort (especially for Windows). Their drive is to become a cross platform tool supplier rather than be bound to a single platform.
I'm sure they are, as they would love to get put from uder Bill's thumb, but it's going to be uphill work to convince windows users and developers to use something that doesn't look and work 100% windows.
The release of Kylix Open Source edition was to aid the Open Source community. In doing so, it is anticipated by the Delphi and Kylix users that more CLX compliant components will become available.
Yup, If I'm still doing Delphi, I for one will write some. May I recommend http://www.delphi-jedi.org as a first port of call before commercial closed-source Object-Pascal component vendors.
CLX components developed for Delphi 6 will run under Kylix as well. This can not be said of the VCL (hence the need for CLX).
Prolly more accurate to day that CLX components developed for Kylix will run under Delphi 6 as well. For fairly clear reasons, Qt on KDE is regared as core, and Qt on Windows is regarded as a curiousity at best - the general thinking in the MS world is that Windows already has a standard set of UI widgets built in, so why bolt on a different set?
It's no wonder they are waiting to see how Kylix is acepted.
Seems that a lot of people are in that position. Kylix is cool, but ther eis no great stampede toward it yet. Hope it happens
The function y = 2^x has no asymptote - it becomes ever higher, ever steeper, but for each value of x there is a finite value of y
Let x = time, let y = technological level (if such a concept is reducable to a single number) and this may be a model our progress under ideal conditions, free from setbacks like plauges & nuclear wars.. and it is completely free of a singularity
I have yet to hear a good reason why this model is not a better one than the singularity idea, other than wishful thinking & that the singularity makes a better story. But let's not confuse SF with the real world.
The Object-Pascal language in Kylix 1 is identical to that In Delphi 6 for windows. The only difference lies in platform-dependant parts of the class library.
And Angola and Sierra Leone have more pressing needs. Hovever the rest of Africa needs the tools with which to generate wealth and good leadership. Do you see where I'm going yet? Communications and education. Internet & GSM is a big part of that.
IMHO you are overgeneralising, though much of what you say is true.
And besides, the info in the article on the SAT-2 and Africa-1 cables was most definitely "News for Nerds" - it was interesting and relevant. I live in Cape Town & didn't know that SAT-2 had landed yet.
In 3 posts you have gone from criticising my point of view on the gounds that I must be stupid to write a serious reply to a 'joke' post, to calling me a liar.
Now I get it - you are 12 years old. Tell your dad that you are not adult enough to use the internet yet. If you want to take this further, post your contact details, Mr Coward. Otherwise, this conversation is now over.
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Anyway, to drift back onto topic, it is worth remembering that Kylix 2.0, if when it ships (and I hope Borland is taking a long-term view on this one and keeps plugging at it), will include Borland C++ Builder. Yup Borland C++ On linux will be another C++ option.
It would be nice to leave it unsterilized. We could then do things like amplify the DNA
IANAB (I am not a biologist, but while it is reasonable to assume that et life would use the same (ie only known workable) chemistry of carbon, it is unlikely that exactly the same molecules, ie DNA would be used, in the same way. If Martian life used DNA in the same way as earthly life instead of some other possible encoding mechanism, it would be a very very strong indicator that the two shared a common ancestor. Likely? I don't know.
But anyway, mars is barren So these guys are coutning thier chickens way before they are hatched.
There's plenty of time. All you have to do is finish part 1 of 3, and get a bit into part II by November-ish when the first movie comes out. Then you've got another yeat to finish vol 2 before the second movie comes out, and another year again for vol 3.
But OK, I admit I'm dying to see what the Balrog and black riders look like in this rendition, and will resist watching pirated video files until I've seen it on the big screen.
OK, seems I cried 'troll' too soon.
Uh, no. Windows is *already* a fragmented platform. I know, I've had to write software that runs on "windows" and spent time debugging it on 98, Nt4 and Win2K.
XP signals the end of the 95->98 codebase, and will eventually bring everyone onto the NT/2000 codebase.
Believe me, this is a good thing (I've worked with my buggy programs on both. The NT platform is far more stable under condtions of stray pointers).
Linux, BSD, Atheos and other open OS's taking over the world would would be a better thing, but that doesn't make XP a bad thing, fragmentation-wise.
Oh really, I always thought that it refered to an event in Northern Ireland's history in 1972 that, unlike the bombing of Libya, is still refered to as "Bloody sunday", and that it was a call to end sectarian violence. See http://larkspirit.com/bloodysunday/ for a clue. U2 are an irish band, and not everything revolves around the US.
This is just a company trying to be sensitive to people who have had their lives shattered by hate-filled people, and playing songs about plane crashes, death, strife, et. al
That does seem to be the aim - otherwise why would they ban Talking Head's dada-psychobable funk track "burning down the house" which isn't about violence, it isn't anything coherent at all. Some idiot thought the title might remind someone. Having coped with loss a while back I can tell you that this is a pointless excercise. You get reminded of the loss by the oddest stuff, and there is no way around this but through the grief.
But it's an ill-chosen, dumb, arbitrary, partisan list - that elvis track, and Loius Armstrong singing "wonderfull world" are out - WTF??
And how is this different from OO?
I realise that Forth has little in common with C++ or Java, but the whole point of OO is that you can define new types that model the solution domain. So in Forth you define new 'words' that model the solution domain, and this is so very different?
Could you give reasons why you say that? How well do you know Delphi/Object Pascal? How much experience do you have in Delphi
You make it sound like it was just an American thing :) It is our right as free human beings to do this. As a South African, I can think of other instances of unjust laws and resistance to them.
After 1/2 an hour reading his specs, D looks a bit raw but quite cool. C++ is the foundation, Java is an influenece & I am sure there are others. Object properties work rather like in Delphi or C#, enums remind me of Pascal.
D will probably be good fun to use when it's ready.
So what you are saying is: It's not for the mob?
For me the main message of this article is that what is 'human creativity' and what is 'mechanicial number crunching' is a moving target.
Remember when mere machines couldn't ... play grandmaster level chess ... prove geometry theorems .. add numbers together.
I've said it before (actually others said it first) but 'that which makes us human' is usually equivalent to 'that which we can't get a machine to do ... yet'.
And this technique will in time, I hope, collide head on with the patent system.
Though that works in principle, it generally fails in practice - for e.g. 99.9% of Napster downloads were not fair use.
Great post, but IMHO any 3-year CS course that aims to teach only one language is going about things completely the wrong way.
You should spend time in (for e.g.) a simple teaching language to start off, 1 mainstream procedural/OO language, one functional language, one scripting language and study briefly a sampling of languages of comercial or academic interest, and what makes them interesting or sucessfull.
IMHO when you learn your second language is when you start to 'get it' about what is an essential feature, and what is an accident of syntax or history in programming.
I wouldn't call knowing only 1 language a "the Computer Science Student mentality" because a CS graduate should definitely not know just one language - they should know how to pick up any language quickly, having had practice at it.
Spot the difference between USA and Central africa right here. In Central africa, no company is even concerned that that might happen to them.
Actually we should blame MS - it was a deliberate decision on MS's part to put speed over stability - ie to put the video etc. drivers into the kernel level in NT4 onwards, for increased speed as the expense of them being able to bring down the whole OS if they crashed.
I'm sure they are, as they would love to get put from uder Bill's thumb, but it's going to be uphill work to convince windows users and developers to use something that doesn't look and work 100% windows.
The release of Kylix Open Source edition was to aid the Open Source community. In doing so, it is anticipated by the Delphi and Kylix users that more CLX compliant components will become available.
Yup, If I'm still doing Delphi, I for one will write some. May I recommend http://www.delphi-jedi.org as a first port of call before commercial closed-source Object-Pascal component vendors.
Prolly more accurate to day that CLX components developed for Kylix will run under Delphi 6 as well. For fairly clear reasons, Qt on KDE is regared as core, and Qt on Windows is regarded as a curiousity at best - the general thinking in the MS world is that Windows already has a standard set of UI widgets built in, so why bolt on a different set?
It's no wonder they are waiting to see how Kylix is acepted.
Seems that a lot of people are in that position. Kylix is cool, but ther eis no great stampede toward it yet. Hope it happens
Porgress could, for instance, be exponential.
.. and it is completely free of a singularity
The function y = 2^x has no asymptote - it becomes ever higher, ever steeper, but for each value of x there is a finite value of y
Let x = time, let y = technological level (if such a concept is reducable to a single number) and this may be a model our progress under ideal conditions, free from setbacks like plauges & nuclear wars
I have yet to hear a good reason why this model is not a better one than the singularity idea, other than wishful thinking & that the singularity makes a better story. But let's not confuse SF with the real world.
There's more info on Object Pascal here on everything2
> Africa needs self-generated wealth and leaders
Absolutely.
And Angola and Sierra Leone have more pressing needs. Hovever the rest of Africa needs the tools with which to generate wealth and good leadership. Do you see where I'm going yet? Communications and education. Internet & GSM is a big part of that.
IMHO you are overgeneralising, though much of what you say is true.
And besides, the info in the article on the SAT-2 and Africa-1 cables was most definitely "News for Nerds" - it was interesting and relevant. I live in Cape Town & didn't know that SAT-2 had landed yet.
In 3 posts you have gone from criticising my point of view on the gounds that I must be stupid to write a serious reply to a 'joke' post, to calling me a liar.
Now I get it - you are 12 years old. Tell your dad that you are not adult enough to use the internet yet. If you want to take this further, post your contact details, Mr Coward. Otherwise, this conversation is now over.
I bet I even know what area in South Africa you're from....
Well, you could have just clicked on my name, read my bio, and found out. BTW, you were wrong. Who's dumb now?
Even 'joke' posts deserve an informative response. Private wealth and social upliftment in Africa is an issue that deserves to be discussed seriously.
En ek is Engels-sprekend. Fok die blerrie Afrikaaners