If you educate talented kids on how to defend systems you could produce some very valuable assets to the future security community. Learning how to hack goes hand in hand with learning security because you need to have the same level of knowledge as the hackers (preferably better). If they can see the profit potential of using this knowledge for good then they will probably be swayed from the dark side.
The moon may be the only thing you "remember correctly." It's laughable that you think the ESA is the most superior space agency in the world. The Russians threw up a satellite first but the "useful" applications were first implemented by the US. And I don't remember the ESA being a prime financial supporter of the space station. I'm actually quite surprised to hear that Europe is trying to get into the aerospace industry, I figured Japan might have taken an interest first. Anyways, since you are obviously ignorant that there are space missions besides the 30+ year old trip to the moon, I would invite you to visit NASA's History Office. Here you can rid yourself of the notion that you are superior in every aspect conceivable.
I appreciate your efforts to try and say something nice about the US. However, you should get your facts straight first.
The 2003 Budget projected real GDP of the United States is about $9.7 trillion. The 2003 spending budget of the Department of Defense is $358.2 billion. This includes more than just the military spending, and it is a mere 3.7% of the GDP.
You Debian zealouts always come out of the closet whenever Gentoo gets posted to Slashdot. Get off your high horse. Debian is a great distro too, but they just have different goals. Gentoo users don't spend all their time talking about how Debian really sucks because they don't feel that they have to. They realize the value of other distributions and will happily tell you in the forums whether Gentoo is for you or not.
Here Gentoo is trying to offer the Linux community something they are lacking and you have to come out and attack them. The same thing happened when they started their initiative to help bring more games to the Linux platform. Why can't you people quit squabbling over how much Debian or whatever kicks everything's ass? Gentoo is trying to do a good thing here, nobody told you to go install Gentoo you fanboy.
Yeah, too bad that Debian kicks Gentoo's ass around the block when it comes to stability and number of packages offered
Funny way of putting it, but yeah I guess KDE 2.2.25 (which is the latest Debian "stable" package) is more stable than 3.1.2. Although the fact that 3.1.2 came out less than 2 weeks ago might have something to do with that. I don't see how that's Gentoo's issue.
DOS was pretty stable too the last time I checked, are you using that also? Does it kick Gentoo's ass also?
And more packages? Please. A source-based distro is only limited by the developers of the applications, meaning Gentoo users don't have to wait for the developers to compile it for a 386 before they can put it on their machine. Get real there, fanboy.
This is a problem with Nvidia. The only reason they are competing well with ATI is because they cut so many corners to get their benchmark scores up. It certainly would be nice if Nvidia concentrated on real-world apps and games but it seems like they do not. If you look at the benchmarks historically between ATI and Nvidia's closely competing cards, you'll find that they are closely matched in default runs. However, try turning on 4x anti-aliasing or anisotropic filtering and watch the older, slower, ATI cards beat out the shiniest new Nvidia cards. ATI's image quality has always been superior to Nvidia's. They are all about quantity and need to be focusing more on quality.
That's exactly the point. If they had access to the version ExtremeTech was using, they would have changed it so that it could cheat on THAT demo also.
While I agree with the sentiment among most Slashdot readers that Microsoft's languages are less than perfect, they do have some use. Yes they tend to throw standards out the window and follow their own path. However, having used several of Microsoft's languages, I must say that they are actually surprisingly easy to learn. They are quite powerful in the realm of Windows programming. Many of the conveniences one finds in a modern open language like PHP can be found in just about all of Microsoft's programming languages. I understand that most real hardcore programmers would prefer to have more control and bypass APIs, but Windows programming is not quite as convoluted as many would claim. It has progressed quite a bit since the days of Visual Basic 5.
I don't work for a company that programs for Windows or anything, I've simply used the tools in my spare time to make useful little Windows programs. So I can say firsthand that it isn't really so bad. I still get my hands dirty with small Linux apps from time to time and I stick with C/C++ for all that (as if there was a huge choice). Seriously, though, I doubt it could be easier to learn how to make a full-fledged X-capable app with widgets in Linux than it is to just open up Visual Studio and whip up a simple app that does the backend stuff for you. On the same note, I understand that many people hate the abstraction that goes on here and that makes sense.
The bottom line is that if you've got to do some Windows programming, the tools are easy to use and there is plenty of documentation for learning.
This is mostly an exception to the rule because Windows Server 2003 is based on different technology than previous versions. Slashbots love to bash MS for their lack of security but when they do something about it people still complain.
A recent SecurityFocus article talks about possible legal implications for people who administer honeypots (here).
Do you feel that this is a legitimate concern, and have you or your colleagues run into any legal issues with honeypots or the use of Nmap and similar tools?
Thank you.
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If downloading music and stuff is hacking then I don't think we have much to worry about teaching kids to hack. Even your mom is a hacker!
If you educate talented kids on how to defend systems you could produce some very valuable assets to the future security community. Learning how to hack goes hand in hand with learning security because you need to have the same level of knowledge as the hackers (preferably better). If they can see the profit potential of using this knowledge for good then they will probably be swayed from the dark side.
Have a good read.
The 2003 Budget projected real GDP of the United States is about $9.7 trillion. The 2003 spending budget of the Department of Defense is $358.2 billion. This includes more than just the military spending, and it is a mere 3.7% of the GDP.
Thanks!
WMs like Gnome load very fast though. And Mozilla and Open Office open up in about 1 second (or less). How long does it take with Debian? 1 minute?
Just a comical retort here, move along.
Here Gentoo is trying to offer the Linux community something they are lacking and you have to come out and attack them. The same thing happened when they started their initiative to help bring more games to the Linux platform. Why can't you people quit squabbling over how much Debian or whatever kicks everything's ass? Gentoo is trying to do a good thing here, nobody told you to go install Gentoo you fanboy.
I can't read any more of this! Make it stop!!!
Funny way of putting it, but yeah I guess KDE 2.2.25 (which is the latest Debian "stable" package) is more stable than 3.1.2. Although the fact that 3.1.2 came out less than 2 weeks ago might have something to do with that. I don't see how that's Gentoo's issue.
DOS was pretty stable too the last time I checked, are you using that also? Does it kick Gentoo's ass also?
And more packages? Please. A source-based distro is only limited by the developers of the applications, meaning Gentoo users don't have to wait for the developers to compile it for a 386 before they can put it on their machine. Get real there, fanboy.
This is a problem with Nvidia. The only reason they are competing well with ATI is because they cut so many corners to get their benchmark scores up. It certainly would be nice if Nvidia concentrated on real-world apps and games but it seems like they do not. If you look at the benchmarks historically between ATI and Nvidia's closely competing cards, you'll find that they are closely matched in default runs. However, try turning on 4x anti-aliasing or anisotropic filtering and watch the older, slower, ATI cards beat out the shiniest new Nvidia cards. ATI's image quality has always been superior to Nvidia's. They are all about quantity and need to be focusing more on quality.
That's exactly the point. If they had access to the version ExtremeTech was using, they would have changed it so that it could cheat on THAT demo also.
I don't work for a company that programs for Windows or anything, I've simply used the tools in my spare time to make useful little Windows programs. So I can say firsthand that it isn't really so bad. I still get my hands dirty with small Linux apps from time to time and I stick with C/C++ for all that (as if there was a huge choice). Seriously, though, I doubt it could be easier to learn how to make a full-fledged X-capable app with widgets in Linux than it is to just open up Visual Studio and whip up a simple app that does the backend stuff for you. On the same note, I understand that many people hate the abstraction that goes on here and that makes sense.
The bottom line is that if you've got to do some Windows programming, the tools are easy to use and there is plenty of documentation for learning.
Just my two cents.
If you're into that....freak...
Yuck, I think it looks uglier than GTK! Let's not step backwards here...
Make up your minds, or just don't talk about it.
If they are dropped by the TCP/IP stack they are indicated as "closed".
A recent SecurityFocus article talks about possible legal implications for people who administer honeypots (here). Do you feel that this is a legitimate concern, and have you or your colleagues run into any legal issues with honeypots or the use of Nmap and similar tools? Thank you.
*Nelson voice* Ha ha
In fact you'll probably find more liberals who are in line with that kind of thinking and Texas isn't very liberal. ;)