There is no difference between the 2. In fact it reminds me of a story...
Many years ago, I was in the army when they sent to me to Nursing school. (OK let's just get the males nurse jokes out of the way) During our Clinicals I got to spend a bit of time in the GI Lab at the VA hospital(Gastro Intestinal, not General Infantry) observing the procedures.
First procedure for the day was an Lower Endoscopy. (where they shove it up the backdoor) The Dr. goes to the cabinet, pulls a long scope of a rack containing 5-10 different scopes and does the procedure.
The Next procedure was an upper Endoscopy where they send the scope down the esophagus to look at the stomach. The Dr. goes to the same cabinet, takes out another scope and begins work. As he's working, I asked him, "How do you tell the difference between the scopes for the "front" and "back" end?"
He looks me dead in the eye and says, "They're both the same, we just sterilize them a bit after each use."
That day I vowed never to have an upper endoscopy, I don't care how much they clean it up after the last guy.
"A lot of data is not very important and a lot of home users have large amounts of it. For example, it is cost prohibitive for me to back up all of my files so some of them (like images, random informative PDFs, and intermediate drafts of work) are not backed up. I'd like to have all these things forever, but I'm not willing to pay enough money for a few more external drives or a case of DVDs and another burner with which to back them up. To me this means that there is a perfectly valid reason to not backup all data. Do you agree that this is reasonable?"
Reasonable? Hardly. If you don't back it up, you can't moan about it when it's gone. At the risk of starting YABA thread (Yet Another Bad Analogy)on slashdot, that's like saying you only use your car to go back and forth to the grocery store, so why bother checking to make sure the tires are bolted on.
I am not a MS Fanboy and I agree that vendors should be held responsible for legitimate errors on their part, however the OP comment about Blaming Microsoft is nothing more then anectodal nonsense.
The SP1 installer worked on millions of computers worldwide, but somehow his computer got screwed up and that's Microsoft's fault? Making a SWAG here, but I'd be willing to wager dollars to donuts that if you did an analysis of his system after the crash, it would have been riddled with shoddy 3rd party software, pirated games, free porn and spyware. Anyone of these could have be a contributing factor to the crash, yet some how Microsoft is to blame? I don't buy that.
So let me get this straight. You hate Microsoft because YOU failed to backup 4 years of data before attempting to do a major patch of your operating system? How is this Microsoft's fault?
As an aside, I usually do not jump on people about minor spelling and grammar mistakes on/., but your post was so horrendous it would make me think twice before I took anything you had to say seriously.
Actually, no where in that article does it say that Cisco is replacing IOS with Linux, nor are they using Linux as the OS of their routers, but rather as the OS for components within their Integrated Services Router.
The use of the word router in the name is more marketing speak then anything else, as it appears that the devices, and the linux OS running parts of them, is a mishmash of different network services running on blade servers.
Slightly OT, but I'd like to know where he's getting a server with those specs at that price. I can't seem to configure one like that on Dell's site for any less then 4500.
"And people thought Bush wouldn't accomplish anything in office.."
Hey dumbass, this ruling was handed down by the liberal members of the supreme court. The "conservative" judges all opposed it. You reap what you sow.
This is more akin to Castro's recent decision to yank the licenses of self employed individuals and have the Cuban goverment take over their business's for the "good of the country."
Technically no, but good luck gettin g any kind of dec ent support from comacyt when crap hits the fan. At least with the T1 they are required by law to respond within a certain time frame.
If bookloft (the shelving system company) was selling books and shelving systems on their online store, (as apple is doing) then I would think that the bookloft book stores would have a valid trademark complaint.
Apple is not just a Computer hardware and software company, they are also an online and brick and mortar retailer. When a Company tries to diversify and put it's fingers into many pies, they don't fit the really fit into any one category as to the type of business.
The fact of the matter is, I love Apple computers. I own 4 of them, AND I despise Tigerdirect, because of bad customer service, but I do think that Tigerdirect does have a valid dispute.
Did you even read my comment?
"Tigerdirect's complaint is that Apple's use of the word Tiger in conjuction with selling the product in Apples online and Retail Stores, would infrigne on their trademark. This most definitely does overlap."
Apple is heavily promoting their online store using such terms as "Tiger Center" to push both their own and thrid party products. Products which Tiger direct ALSO sells. Tigerdirect is trying to prevent the use of the the word Tiger from becoming so prevalent with Apple that future websearches looking for online computer stores does not type tiger in a search engine and get directed to Apples online store.
Any one with half a brain would realize that the Judge will rely pretty heavily on what classification the USPTO decides. Just because something makes perfect sense to you, oh wizened computer geek, does not mean a judge will agree. I guess we shall see, although I doubt it will go that far.
Except that tigerdirect (or should I say systemmax, the parent company) does own a trademark on the use of the word tiger in the field of "Mail order catalog services featuring computers and computer related products; and Retail store services featuring computers and computer related product"
"TigerDirect sells PC clones. Apple sells Macs. Different market."
In your mind maybe, but not in most consumers eye and definitely not in the eyes of the US Patent Office. They're both just Computer and Compute peripheral retailers.
Tigerdirect's complaint is that Apple's use of the word Tiger in conjuction with selling the product in Apples online and Retail Stores, would infrigne on their trademark. This most definitely does overlap.
In addition , Tigerdirect sells a line of PC's (product) under the "tiger" name.
Except that apple is using the word tiger extensively in their online store to promote not just tiger, but all products they sell including 3rd party products. (It's under the section Tiger Center) These are in direct competition to Tiger direct which sells the same products.
In addition TD sells a brand of computers using the Tiger brand name made by their parent company.
I can see someone didn't take their logic pill this morning.
Tigerdirect is authorized by Apple, by virtue of being a reseller, to sell (and List) Apple Ipods on their website, as well as use the Apple and Ipod trademarks in advertising, as long as it is in accordance with Apple reseller guidelines. Period.
Tigerdirect has not granted Apple any such rights for Apple's own online store, and that is the jist of their complaint.
This is the problem with getting the condensed version of the news from reading Slashot. Further research reveals that one of tigerdirect complaints is that apple is using the word tiger to promote both their own and 3rd party products on the apple online store, in direct competition with tigerdirect.com.
In addition tigerdirect sells its own line of "tiger" branded pc's made by their parent company Systemax.
Their parent company systemax, makes a line of pc's under the "Tiger" name and sells them through various outlets, including Tigerdirect.com
Apple also is pushing products thought their "tiger center" on the Apple online store, products that Tigerdirect also sells and in direct competition to apple
Also, part of their complaint is that Apple is using the word tiger as part of their online store, (if you go to the apple store, they have a section Labeled TIGER CENTER) This online store sells not only tiger, but a variety of other products, both Apples and 3rd party, many of which are the same items that tiger direct carries.
TFA does not make it clear, but other news stories about this suit do mention that this is about more then just the name of their OS, but also how they are using the word tiger to push a myriad of computer products.
You need to get out more then, as tigerdirect is one of he biggest names in discount computer parts, right up there with Newegg. Of course they still suck, but their not exactly nobodies.
Maybe tigerdirect is doing this as some sort of wierd payback for Apple not letting them sell their stuff.
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They do have different sizes, but that is more of a function on needing them for various size people's anatomy.
Many years ago, I was in the army when they sent to me to Nursing school. (OK let's just get the males nurse jokes out of the way) During our Clinicals I got to spend a bit of time in the GI Lab at the VA hospital(Gastro Intestinal, not General Infantry) observing the procedures.
First procedure for the day was an Lower Endoscopy. (where they shove it up the backdoor) The Dr. goes to the cabinet, pulls a long scope of a rack containing 5-10 different scopes and does the procedure.
The Next procedure was an upper Endoscopy where they send the scope down the esophagus to look at the stomach. The Dr. goes to the same cabinet, takes out another scope and begins work. As he's working, I asked him, "How do you tell the difference between the scopes for the "front" and "back" end?"
He looks me dead in the eye and says, "They're both the same, we just sterilize them a bit after each use."
That day I vowed never to have an upper endoscopy, I don't care how much they clean it up after the last guy.
Reasonable? Hardly. If you don't back it up, you can't moan about it when it's gone. At the risk of starting YABA thread (Yet Another Bad Analogy)on slashdot, that's like saying you only use your car to go back and forth to the grocery store, so why bother checking to make sure the tires are bolted on.
I am not a MS Fanboy and I agree that vendors should be held responsible for legitimate errors on their part, however the OP comment about Blaming Microsoft is nothing more then anectodal nonsense.
The SP1 installer worked on millions of computers worldwide, but somehow his computer got screwed up and that's Microsoft's fault? Making a SWAG here, but I'd be willing to wager dollars to donuts that if you did an analysis of his system after the crash, it would have been riddled with shoddy 3rd party software, pirated games, free porn and spyware. Anyone of these could have be a contributing factor to the crash, yet some how Microsoft is to blame? I don't buy that.
As an aside, I usually do not jump on people about minor spelling and grammar mistakes on /., but your post was so horrendous it would make me think twice before I took anything you had to say seriously.
The use of the word router in the name is more marketing speak then anything else, as it appears that the devices, and the linux OS running parts of them, is a mishmash of different network services running on blade servers.
Actually I thought I heard this morning that they had already simulated this procedure using a full scale mockup in Nasa's Underwater pool.
Slightly OT, but I'd like to know where he's getting a server with those specs at that price. I can't seem to configure one like that on Dell's site for any less then 4500.
Hey dumbass, this ruling was handed down by the liberal members of the supreme court. The "conservative" judges all opposed it. You reap what you sow.
This is more akin to Castro's recent decision to yank the licenses of self employed individuals and have the Cuban goverment take over their business's for the "good of the country."
Technically no, but good luck gettin g any kind of dec ent support from comacyt when crap hits the fan. At least with the T1 they are required by law to respond within a certain time frame.
Apple is not just a Computer hardware and software company, they are also an online and brick and mortar retailer. When a Company tries to diversify and put it's fingers into many pies, they don't fit the really fit into any one category as to the type of business.
The fact of the matter is, I love Apple computers. I own 4 of them, AND I despise Tigerdirect, because of bad customer service, but I do think that Tigerdirect does have a valid dispute.
Did you even read my comment? "Tigerdirect's complaint is that Apple's use of the word Tiger in conjuction with selling the product in Apples online and Retail Stores, would infrigne on their trademark. This most definitely does overlap." Apple is heavily promoting their online store using such terms as "Tiger Center" to push both their own and thrid party products. Products which Tiger direct ALSO sells. Tigerdirect is trying to prevent the use of the the word Tiger from becoming so prevalent with Apple that future websearches looking for online computer stores does not type tiger in a search engine and get directed to Apples online store.
Any one with half a brain would realize that the Judge will rely pretty heavily on what classification the USPTO decides. Just because something makes perfect sense to you, oh wizened computer geek, does not mean a judge will agree. I guess we shall see, although I doubt it will go that far.
"TigerDirect sells PC clones. Apple sells Macs. Different market."
In your mind maybe, but not in most consumers eye and definitely not in the eyes of the US Patent Office. They're both just Computer and Compute peripheral retailers.
Tigerdirect's complaint is that Apple's use of the word Tiger in conjuction with selling the product in Apples online and Retail Stores, would infrigne on their trademark. This most definitely does overlap.
In addition , Tigerdirect sells a line of PC's (product) under the "tiger" name.
In addition TD sells a brand of computers using the Tiger brand name made by their parent company.
Their parent sompany, which brought the suit sells a brand of computer under the tiger name
Tiger direct sells hardware, Apple sells hardware.
Tigerdirect sells software, Apple sells software.
Tiger direct operates an online store selling hardware and software, Apple operates an online store selling hardware and software.
Looks like some overlappin' to me!
Tigerdirect is authorized by Apple, by virtue of being a reseller, to sell (and List) Apple Ipods on their website, as well as use the Apple and Ipod trademarks in advertising, as long as it is in accordance with Apple reseller guidelines. Period.
Tigerdirect has not granted Apple any such rights for Apple's own online store, and that is the jist of their complaint.
How so? They are an authorized apple dealer!
In addition tigerdirect sells its own line of "tiger" branded pc's made by their parent company Systemax.
Apple also is pushing products thought their "tiger center" on the Apple online store, products that Tigerdirect also sells and in direct competition to apple
TFA does not make it clear, but other news stories about this suit do mention that this is about more then just the name of their OS, but also how they are using the word tiger to push a myriad of computer products.
So it's more then just the name tigerdirect, it looks like they actively sell systems using the Tiger Brand name
Maybe tigerdirect is doing this as some sort of wierd payback for Apple not letting them sell their stuff.
Great! Now my entire afternoon of mindless browsing is shot to hell!
I'll cheer them when they actually release these patches to the general public.