What on earth do you do with that 160GB? I've never had a drive fail in less than 3 years. And I wouldn't trust DVD-R's more than I trust a magnetic drive. Kudos for backing up though;) Everyone should.
It's you. They're stealing Apple's motif, but I have no quarrel with that!
After I closed keynote, not thinking, I hit command-n to get one more look and 280 Slides opened it's new presentation theme picker- and for a sec I thought it was keynote.
Maybe a cheap I don't-like-hollywood shot. You're right about the sci-fi coming out of hollywood, I was just extending it to the politics coming out of hollywood; the ones that many of the people in this thread seem to have bought wholesale
1. You kill the one and save the other. Sometimes we kill people for the ethical principle of utility. It's sad but sometimes is saves one where two would have died. This is fairly undisputed and for purposes of analogy, unlike most pregnancies.
2. Sure. Why is this a question, we do it all the time. And yeah, Douglas Adams agrees, nothing is 100%. We all already know that. We've heard doctor_speak.
Why is that your decision to make?
It wasn't, it was her's. We only made assessments of risk to herself and the baby. People die for their babies, even voluntarily.
Finally in response to your other moral/ethical habdashery, consider the difference between allowing someone to naturally die and implicitly killing him.
And in response to your last line. Humans are diploid! Yay.
You believe that the cell has moral rights to the woman's body
Cheers, I'm not the grandparent (in the thread, *wink*) but maybe another way of looking at it is that as soon as conception occurs the parents have a reasonable responsibility not to kill the baby. Maybe instead of a moral right to the mother's body, an ethical right to its own body.
Until it hits the atmosphere and breathes....it isn't really a human.
Yes! Hooray for magical birth canals. C-Sections becoming more magical every day. This is scientifically ignorant.
If it cannot survive on earth....it isn't viable.
What part of earth, ever tried living very long naked on the ocean floor? In lava? That's kind of a dumb argument- as long as we're being silly:p what about babies born in space? Other planets? Hee hee this is fun!
Nature causes aborted pregnancies on its own for various reasons
Yeah, nature causes adults to die too (although we try hard) doesn't mean we should kill people, right?
[...]the two situations balance out
I like you, you're very dark and trollerific! When can I subscribe to your newsletter.
Really people, you surprise me sometimes. But you can still chill.
And as an addendum I'll say that religion is the crap that lets you kill babies after their conceived, after they're born at puberty and well into adulthood.
I have no concern, or consideration for a clump of cells
What if it's a clump of cells in your brain? How about your optic nerve? What about the little clump-o-cells on your heart, SA Node?
See it's not that anyone cares about all cells after all we shed loads of cells each day- but there are some cells we care about more than others. After all I'd hate for you to give up your P-wave over a silly argument on slashdot.
I for one think that the particular clump of cells you implicitly refer to happens to have lots of value. Although it cannot survive on its own if you don't kill it it will likely become a creation more biologically elegant than you can imagine. In the same way a baby becomes an adult, so long as you nurture it. Perhaps the correct perspective is that the little clump-o-cells, already human, is in fact already an elegant biological creation.
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-Thaves
God camps everywhere...all of thee time.
For Daryl mind you. This guy is worth keeping around just for the humor. I really hope he's actually semisane.
Or cement & spikes.
Imagine the potential (no pun intended) for roadside help though. Easier than siphoning gas
Although you'll find that Beerâ is $2.99
What on earth do you do with that 160GB? I've never had a drive fail in less than 3 years. And I wouldn't trust DVD-R's more than I trust a magnetic drive. Kudos for backing up though ;) Everyone should.
After I closed keynote, not thinking, I hit command-n to get one more look and 280 Slides opened it's new presentation theme picker- and for a sec I thought it was keynote.
In the end I say yay for competition!
Cheers, Ed
That's a loooong handshake. I'd start "Hey, where are you?"
Cheers, Ed
That's patently false for numerous reason. And you knoe the use of the term "defect" is misleading if you've ever studied cursory biology.
Haha- flamebait :)
You mean like pro-abortion rights vibe?
2. Sure. Why is this a question, we do it all the time. And yeah, Douglas Adams agrees, nothing is 100%. We all already know that. We've heard doctor_speak.
It wasn't, it was her's. We only made assessments of risk to herself and the baby. People die for their babies, even voluntarily.
Finally in response to your other moral/ethical habdashery, consider the difference between allowing someone to naturally die and implicitly killing him.
And in response to your last line. Humans are diploid! Yay.
Cheers, I'm not the grandparent (in the thread, *wink*) but maybe another way of looking at it is that as soon as conception occurs the parents have a reasonable responsibility not to kill the baby. Maybe instead of a moral right to the mother's body, an ethical right to its own body.
And you're right, it is fascinating.
Humans are diploid ;)
because birth canals are magical ;)
Silly, maybe- but at least it's not non-sequitur.
-Ed
Yes! Hooray for magical birth canals. C-Sections becoming more magical every day. This is scientifically ignorant.
What part of earth, ever tried living very long naked on the ocean floor? In lava? That's kind of a dumb argument- as long as we're being silly :p what about babies born in space? Other planets? Hee hee this is fun!
Yeah, nature causes adults to die too (although we try hard) doesn't mean we should kill people, right?
I like you, you're very dark and trollerific! When can I subscribe to your newsletter.
Really people, you surprise me sometimes. But you can still chill.
Yeah! Or the mammary duct!! [/sarcasm type="dark, dark"]
Honestly, haven't we been through this already, does anyone really buy that argument? Have you ever even seen a child?
Scientists and doctors know better.
Unless you're into science. Then you know that he was human as soon as the union between egg and sperm occurred.
We're diploid!! Hooray!
What if it's a clump of cells in your brain? How about your optic nerve? What about the little clump-o-cells on your heart, SA Node?
See it's not that anyone cares about all cells after all we shed loads of cells each day- but there are some cells we care about more than others. After all I'd hate for you to give up your P-wave over a silly argument on slashdot.
I for one think that the particular clump of cells you implicitly refer to happens to have lots of value. Although it cannot survive on its own if you don't kill it it will likely become a creation more biologically elegant than you can imagine. In the same way a baby becomes an adult, so long as you nurture it. Perhaps the correct perspective is that the little clump-o-cells, already human, is in fact already an elegant biological creation.
Much Love, Ed
Fortunately you can add permanent exceptions- I actually like this better than FF2's behavior.