What's the difference between John Kerry and Scott Peterson?...
WTF kind of sig is that? Retro fitting today's values into `70s history is wrong. Wrong to judge the President by what he did, wrong to judge President Clinton, and wrong to judge Senator Kerry. Plus, other than showing that you are going to vote for George Bush, all you are stating is that you have no respect for the process, and support all the slander and lies that now are used when people run for President. Please reconsider the sig, and make it more respectable to your party, your country, and yourself.
Why in the world shouldn't we be able to recall judges that are clearly working against the desires of the population they serve?
Article III, section 1, US Constitution: The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour, and shall, at stated Times, receive for their Services, a Compensation, which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office.
Judges are not in the position to serve the electorate. In this specific case, attempting to recall the judges because they are out of touch with family values(thanks abb3w for the link) is not the same as recalling judges for bad Behaviour.
In the article the judge is quoted as saying that under the new law, a domestic partnership does not constitute a marriage, but is "inherently distinct." This is an interpretation of law, not of the will of the voters, and this is the responsible of a judge acting in good behaviour.
Now the civil, respectable, truly patriotic and constitutional response to such a judgment would not be FUD, but instead ONLY "We will appeal and seek justice for California voters and the sacred institution of marriage"WITHOUT the threat.
The problem is that most people don't understand, and politicizing a judges decision based on law for ones own advantage is an incredible misuse and abuse of the system. The CCF needs to act and talk responsibly and learn a little bit about tolerance and values.
I heard a story this morning on NPR that disturbs me. It seems that a "Family Rights" group is fighting a law in California that allows same sex unions, and recently the law was upheld by a judge in Sacramento. The "Family Rights" groups response: start a campaign to recall the judge.
What ever you think of same sex marriages, this is the wrong way to fight the battle. FUD on a political scale. I haven't investigated the story in any further detail, but in the interview with the lead of the "Family Rights" group, he was very open about the fact that the reason that he was starting the recall was because of the judge's decision. FUD! FUD! FUD! The next judge will think twice, not wanting to deal with a recall, before weighing an opinion or decision against this group. THIS BREAKS our checks and balance system.
Stacking the courts in a sneaky way is not new in our political system. Yes, it is questionable, but this group of Senators aren't the first to try it. The interesting thing about it, though, is they wouldn't be trying so hard now if they thought that Pres. Bush would be the Pres. for another term and that they would remain the majority in the Senate. Not exactly a vote of confidence.
We were forced to read this "essay" in school, and will never, ever, ever forget it. Might be a good proposal today to reduce healthcare costs and cut taxes.
I can not understand how the EFF could argue against this.
Maybe ID should be required to board an airplane. It is a pretty good case of giving up a part of your personal rights for the good of all, BUT passing a secret law that can not be argued in public for such a purpose is where John Gilmore (the EFF) probably has the problem. Our system has many examples where we give up a little of our privacy for the good of all, but these are all debated in public, voted on in public, and challenged in public.
John Gilmore is protecting us, and I do not think you understand that. We are a democracy that gives the government rights, not the other way around. There are extensive checks and balances within the system to protect the government from overstepping its authority. We can (and in the case of IDs for air travel, should) give the governement more authority, but it is the people that give the government that authority, not the government that secretly takes it!
Did Kerry vote on the PATRIOT Act? If so, for or against; and did he read it?
Did Bush sign the PATRIOT Act? If so, did he read it?
Whether either voted, signed, wrote, or read the bill, at the time it was considered (by many) as essential. 9/11 shocked everyone, and quick action was seen as more important than properly debated, methodical, slow, correct, action.
If you want to decide your vote by the PATRIOT Act, it might be better to research what the two candidates think of the Act now, and if they plan on strengthing, or to weakening it.
I have the problem that so many have - I immediatly believe what I want to believe and immediatly doubt what I don't want to believe. In this case, I want to have Pres. Bush removed from office so badly, I believed a Herbert's article. Thanks for keeping me straight. I really dislike when others throw around obvious fabrications as facts, and did so myself.:(
Heh. You'd think that for all the effort I put into this stuff, I could vote or something - I'm not a US citizen.:-)
More like, from all the effort you are putting into this stuff, I can tell you are not a US citizen. {:) }
If you are living here, you should become a citizen. We need more wierd voters that actually pay attention to facts. And see, you are influencing me. (and, if you are not a citizen, move to Florida and I bet you could figure out how to vote anyway....:)
Thanks for the info. When I read the piece I was fairly skeptical because it was an op-ed, but heard from a trusted friend that Bob Herbert is biased but not dirty.
What is the background on RealClearPolitics - it seems to lean a little to the right (just as Bob Herbert leans a little left)?
Also, take any article from the Nation Review with a grain of salt. It is a very biased source.
A link from one of the RealClearPolitics site was really interesting, and if you haven't read, give it a read. It seems more down the middle than either the NYT op-ed or the 3 articles you linked. Basically makes me worried about Florida determining the next election, because they obviously have a lot of problems that need fixing.
The article seems to indicate that the current "problem" is blown out of proportion for use in politics (imagine that), gives more details of what is really happening, and gives some examples of some really unfortunate voting problems.
Don't want to scare you even more, but did anyone read the recent NY times Op Ed piece by Bob Herbert?
Don't have a link because it is the NY Times, but here is the summary/introduction. The article was very scary, especially when you combine hanging chads, the Bush running the state, Floridia's "too close to call" status, and all of its electoral votes.
Voting While Black
By BOB HERBERT (NYT) Op-Ed
August 20, 2004, Friday
Late Edition - Final , Section A , Page 23 , Column 6
The smell of voter suppression coming out of Florida is getting stronger. It turns out that a Florida Department of Law Enforcement investigation, in which state troopers have gone into the homes of elderly black voters in Orlando in a bizarre hunt for evidence of election fraud, is being conducted...
thanks for reading my long-ass post
you're welcome, thanks for posting it
However, I think you miss a few important concepts in your post.
1) Not all "A coders" are hackers.
- I've worked with the elite programmers that do believe that requirements and documentation are good and that a process produces better results. It seems that these are usually the elite and experienced, but not always.
2) Not all hackers are "A coders".
- "B coders" are hackers too. Seen it too many times. Just like anything else, there are more "B coders" and "C coders" that are hackers than there are "A coders". It is just a fact of life, that there is always an elite FEW, but and abudance of mediocrity. i.e., just because you are a hacker, doesn't mean you're good.
3) Managers are people too.
- There are many "B managers" and an elite few "A managers". And usually, an "A manager" is worth a team of "A coders" to a company.
4) Teams are usually a cross section of the population.
- Rarely are there teams full of code monkeys, or full of "A coders". Here is where a great manager is important. An "A manager" will allow enough room for each person to do what they need to, but ensure that each is able to work with the other. I've been lucky enough to have "A managers", and they make a world of difference to individuals and to projects.
5) Programming languages are just tools.
- Use the best tool for the job. Saying you choose a language based on your ability to do "neat hacks" is idiocracy. If I see someone putting nails into a wall with a screw driver, I think - "Damn, that guy is good with a screw driver", and "what a friggen' idiot".
Reading your post it is obvious that you are either an elitist with a lot of bad experiences, or someone with no experience. Either way, I hope your next manager is an "A manager", you really need some help.
Somewhere, somewhen, things have changed. IT is no longer a service, it's a beurocracy.
Why are all users treated like idiots? Why are technical users treated like children? Why do asshole admins think they are GODS? Why do I have to get permision FROM A VP to put a non dell, non Windows 2000 machine on the company network? Why does my section get charged for the IT service that are "provided", and that service is CRAP? Why do we have to call a call center halfway across the country to have a technican that knows shit and sits down the hall come and tell me he doesn't know what is wrong? WHERE IS THE SERVICE?
IT departments are full of over inflated egomaniacs. Many (not all)admins are unaware of their users' needs and uncaring of their problems. Bastard IT personal from hell are making the people that REALLY do the work and make the money for comanies less productive, and why?
"so I can't spend all day fixing things"
If you want respect, give respect. If you want knowledgable users, teach them. If you want to be an asshole and feel like god, GROW UP - you probably are an asshole, but can never be a god. YOU are "*NOT* that smart person" if this is what you truly believe and what you truly do. You are costing your company many, many, many times more than all of the BOFHs that you support - and you should be fired.
The Americans were warned that the use of the chants would be highly offensive.
The "Arabic speaker in the company who was also a Muslim" talking to his boss.
(MS boss) "What does this chanting here mean?"
(employee) "!@#((& *(&#^(*&#... That is an incredible insult." (going ballistic)
(MS boss) "Well that's perfect for a fighting game!"
Also, your use of "The Americans" instead of "MS management" or US citizen is probably offending a lot of Canadians, Mexicans, Brazilians,...:)
Kudos to the author for realizing that his kids are more important than the software release.
I worked for a large manufacturer of sexy computers and OS for over four years. During that time I had two children. I always felt pressure to work more/harder, and always did. Before I knew it, I was spending 100+ hours a week at the factory, and was not every seeing my familly (left home, they were asleep, got back home, they were asleep). I realized (thanks to my wife) that this was not the right thing, and took a job at a defence contractor.
Yes, by changing *where* I worked, my hours at work were cut in more than half. Now, after working at the new job for a couple of years, I've realized that the problem was not really my former employer, but me. I did not now how to set reasonable limits, ensure that team members and boses understood those limits, and then follow through. I was promising too much, taking on too much, working too much. It wasn't my employer forcing me to work too much.
Now, the change in *where* for me was big because in Startup type of companies, only a stupid boss is going refuse a person's demand for more work. In the new company, however, the culture was not to allow a person to work too much, and after being forced to work reasonable hours, I finally realized that the problem is and was mine.
So, I think you are right, the *where* is more important than the *what*. But, one needs to look at one's *attitude* first, because that is more important than the *where*.
Yes, but is this poor timing by the magazine, or a change in direction by sun? No mention of yesterday's announcement was made in the article and it may be just a pre-written article sceduled to go to press and then overcome by events. Or, it could be a rebuttal of the java announcement. Either way, poor journalism by PC Pro.
I'd rather have it the way we have it today than have all unixes behave exactly like Windows. ...
I would not want an OS that passes MY mothers tests for the same reason I do not want to drive a car that passes a "my mother" test.
Apps that have a consistant interface is a Mac OS thing, used (less successfully) in windows, Amiga OS, TOS, and nearly every GUI oriented UI but X/unix. The "mother" test is excellent test as long as it is not the only test. The book The Inmates are Running the Asylum by Alan Cooper describes the problems with UI's and offers an comprehensive method to fix them, of which having a set of diverse users "critique" the UI is a large part. Well worth the read, even though it is not easy to agree with everything the "father of Visual Basic" has to offer. Even more gui specific design (and a different view) on the problem can be found by asking Tog
The users of X have figured out how to do copy-paste the X-way and probably don't want to learn another behaviour. Yes, that is the problem! With X, almost every app has a different behavour. You can't tell me you really use X/unix and this has never bothered you?
we dont have an educated civilization that understands the finer points of technology, or even the basics of the constitution.
I agree, but the real question is "how come?" The constitution changes so much it is hard to be educated about it. Yes, the words are the same as they were 200 years ago, but the interpretation changes quite often. And it is not in a lawyer's best interest to either not change the interpretation or to explain it to the masses.
The same holds for technology, only it changes a million times faster. If the engineers really did bring technology to the level that the masses could understand, then engineers would no longer be l33t. Whether you do it for free or for money (and whether you admit it or not), it would be hard to promote and fight for something that makes you lose your edge over the masses.
So, yes, the masses are undereducated, but it is entirely our fault, and we (for the most part) are not doing anything about it. Making code free and EASY would help, but where's the glory in that?
Sorry, you are right I know nothing about his views. (but left, right, up, or down, doesn't matter. Loony was the point. Just a poor guess on something that in today's political envirnoment should not be taken lightly. To anyone offended by my calling ESR a loony-leftist, I apologize. It is a disservice to true leftists and to ESR. And, for the record, I don't really know enough about ESR to call his a loony either. Again, to anyone offended by my calling ESR a loony-leftist, I apologize. It is a disservice to true loonies and to ESR.).
I don't know what you were doing with your Winboxes, but I run a corporation(~450,000 machines) and have only had one problem in the last 3 years since they were delivered, which was easily fixed (total time invested in maintainence: ~2 mins). The only real problem was with lousy software running without a proper Linux, which I've updated to an proprietary licence. Even upgrading the entire Company to SCO Linux license was a breeze through our lawyers.
Windows XP is rock solid. Don't even get me started on the previous Mac Classic computers these PCs replaced.
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Bet just that took longer than ~5 hours. Remember, for a graphic design company, upgrading, fixing, etc. will count toward their IS support budget. $10k for suppporting 20 computers in a professional environment is not bad.
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What's the difference between John Kerry and Scott Peterson? ...
WTF kind of sig is that? Retro fitting today's values into `70s history is wrong. Wrong to judge the President by what he did, wrong to judge President Clinton, and wrong to judge Senator Kerry. Plus, other than showing that you are going to vote for George Bush, all you are stating is that you have no respect for the process, and support all the slander and lies that now are used when people run for President. Please reconsider the sig, and make it more respectable to your party, your country, and yourself.
Why in the world shouldn't we be able to recall judges that are clearly working against the desires of the population they serve?
Article III, section 1, US Constitution:
The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour, and shall, at stated Times, receive for their Services, a Compensation, which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office.
Judges are not in the position to serve the electorate. In this specific case, attempting to recall the judges because they are out of touch with family values(thanks abb3w for the link) is not the same as recalling judges for bad Behaviour.
In the article the judge is quoted as saying that under the new law, a domestic partnership does not constitute a marriage, but is "inherently distinct." This is an interpretation of law, not of the will of the voters, and this is the responsible of a judge acting in good behaviour.
Now the civil, respectable, truly patriotic and constitutional response to such a judgment would not be FUD, but instead ONLY "We will appeal and seek justice for California voters and the sacred institution of marriage" WITHOUT the threat.
The problem is that most people don't understand, and politicizing a judges decision based on law for ones own advantage is an incredible misuse and abuse of the system. The CCF needs to act and talk responsibly and learn a little bit about tolerance and values.
I heard a story this morning on NPR that disturbs me. It seems that a "Family Rights" group is fighting a law in California that allows same sex unions, and recently the law was upheld by a judge in Sacramento. The "Family Rights" groups response: start a campaign to recall the judge.
What ever you think of same sex marriages, this is the wrong way to fight the battle. FUD on a political scale. I haven't investigated the story in any further detail, but in the interview with the lead of the "Family Rights" group, he was very open about the fact that the reason that he was starting the recall was because of the judge's decision. FUD! FUD! FUD! The next judge will think twice, not wanting to deal with a recall, before weighing an opinion or decision against this group. THIS BREAKS our checks and balance system.
Stacking the courts in a sneaky way is not new in our political system. Yes, it is questionable, but this group of Senators aren't the first to try it. The interesting thing about it, though, is they wouldn't be trying so hard now if they thought that Pres. Bush would be the Pres. for another term and that they would remain the majority in the Senate. Not exactly a vote of confidence.
Your title threw me.
A modest proposal.
We were forced to read this "essay" in school, and will never, ever, ever forget it. Might be a good proposal today to reduce healthcare costs and cut taxes.
I can not understand how the EFF could argue against this.
Maybe ID should be required to board an airplane. It is a pretty good case of giving up a part of your personal rights for the good of all, BUT passing a secret law that can not be argued in public for such a purpose is where John Gilmore (the EFF) probably has the problem. Our system has many examples where we give up a little of our privacy for the good of all, but these are all debated in public, voted on in public, and challenged in public.
John Gilmore is protecting us, and I do not think you understand that. We are a democracy that gives the government rights, not the other way around. There are extensive checks and balances within the system to protect the government from overstepping its authority. We can (and in the case of IDs for air travel, should) give the governement more authority, but it is the people that give the government that authority, not the government that secretly takes it!
Did Kerry vote on the PATRIOT Act? If so, for or against; and did he read it?
Did Bush sign the PATRIOT Act? If so, did he read it?
Whether either voted, signed, wrote, or read the bill, at the time it was considered (by many) as essential. 9/11 shocked everyone, and quick action was seen as more important than properly debated, methodical, slow, correct, action.
If you want to decide your vote by the PATRIOT Act, it might be better to research what the two candidates think of the Act now, and if they plan on strengthing, or to weakening it.
I have the problem that so many have - I immediatly believe what I want to believe and immediatly doubt what I don't want to believe. In this case, I want to have Pres. Bush removed from office so badly, I believed a Herbert's article. Thanks for keeping me straight. I really dislike when others throw around obvious fabrications as facts, and did so myself. :(
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Heh. You'd think that for all the effort I put into this stuff, I could vote or something - I'm not a US citizen.
More like, from all the effort you are putting into this stuff, I can tell you are not a US citizen. {
If you are living here, you should become a citizen. We need more wierd voters that actually pay attention to facts. And see, you are influencing me. (and, if you are not a citizen, move to Florida and I bet you could figure out how to vote anyway....
Thanks for the info. When I read the piece I was fairly skeptical because it was an op-ed, but heard from a trusted friend that Bob Herbert is biased but not dirty.
What is the background on RealClearPolitics - it seems to lean a little to the right (just as Bob Herbert leans a little left)?
Also, take any article from the Nation Review with a grain of salt. It is a very biased source.
A link from one of the RealClearPolitics site was really interesting, and if you haven't read, give it a read. It seems more down the middle than either the NYT op-ed or the 3 articles you linked. Basically makes me worried about Florida determining the next election, because they obviously have a lot of problems that need fixing.
Orlando mayor vote probe inflames activists
The article seems to indicate that the current "problem" is blown out of proportion for use in politics (imagine that), gives more details of what is really happening, and gives some examples of some really unfortunate voting problems.
Don't want to scare you even more, but did anyone read the recent NY times Op Ed piece by Bob Herbert?
Don't have a link because it is the NY Times, but here is the summary/introduction. The article was very scary, especially when you combine hanging chads, the Bush running the state, Floridia's "too close to call" status, and all of its electoral votes.
Voting While Black
By BOB HERBERT (NYT) Op-Ed
August 20, 2004, Friday
Late Edition - Final , Section A , Page 23 , Column 6
The smell of voter suppression coming out of Florida is getting stronger. It turns out that a Florida Department of Law Enforcement investigation, in which state troopers have gone into the homes of elderly black voters in Orlando in a bizarre hunt for evidence of election fraud, is being conducted...
Reading your post it is obvious that you are either an elitist with a lot of bad experiences, or someone with no experience.
Sorry, that was not a very fair to make such an assumption.
thanks for reading my long-ass post
you're welcome, thanks for posting it
However, I think you miss a few important concepts in your post.
1) Not all "A coders" are hackers.
- I've worked with the elite programmers that do believe that requirements and documentation are good and that a process produces better results. It seems that these are usually the elite and experienced, but not always.
2) Not all hackers are "A coders".
- "B coders" are hackers too. Seen it too many times. Just like anything else, there are more "B coders" and "C coders" that are hackers than there are "A coders". It is just a fact of life, that there is always an elite FEW, but and abudance of mediocrity. i.e., just because you are a hacker, doesn't mean you're good.
3) Managers are people too.
- There are many "B managers" and an elite few "A managers". And usually, an "A manager" is worth a team of "A coders" to a company.
4) Teams are usually a cross section of the population.
- Rarely are there teams full of code monkeys, or full of "A coders". Here is where a great manager is important. An "A manager" will allow enough room for each person to do what they need to, but ensure that each is able to work with the other. I've been lucky enough to have "A managers", and they make a world of difference to individuals and to projects.
5) Programming languages are just tools.
- Use the best tool for the job. Saying you choose a language based on your ability to do "neat hacks" is idiocracy. If I see someone putting nails into a wall with a screw driver, I think - "Damn, that guy is good with a screw driver", and "what a friggen' idiot".
Reading your post it is obvious that you are either an elitist with a lot of bad experiences, or someone with no experience. Either way, I hope your next manager is an "A manager", you really need some help.
I am a self professed asshole admin.
Somewhere, somewhen, things have changed. IT is no longer a service, it's a beurocracy.
Why are all users treated like idiots? Why are technical users treated like children? Why do asshole admins think they are GODS? Why do I have to get permision FROM A VP to put a non dell, non Windows 2000 machine on the company network? Why does my section get charged for the IT service that are "provided", and that service is CRAP? Why do we have to call a call center halfway across the country to have a technican that knows shit and sits down the hall come and tell me he doesn't know what is wrong? WHERE IS THE SERVICE?
IT departments are full of over inflated egomaniacs. Many (not all)admins are unaware of their users' needs and uncaring of their problems. Bastard IT personal from hell are making the people that REALLY do the work and make the money for comanies less productive, and why?
"so I can't spend all day fixing things"
If you want respect, give respect. If you want knowledgable users, teach them. If you want to be an asshole and feel like god, GROW UP - you probably are an asshole, but can never be a god. YOU are "*NOT* that smart person" if this is what you truly believe and what you truly do. You are costing your company many, many, many times more than all of the BOFHs that you support - and you should be fired.
The Americans were warned that the use of the chants would be highly offensive.
... That is an incredible insult." (going ballistic)
... :)
The "Arabic speaker in the company who was also a Muslim" talking to his boss.
(MS boss) "What does this chanting here mean?"
(employee) "!@#((& *(&#^(*&#
(MS boss) "Well that's perfect for a fighting game!"
Also, your use of "The Americans" instead of "MS management" or US citizen is probably offending a lot of Canadians, Mexicans, Brazilians,
What recent censorship acts in general lead you to believe that these things are following a political trend?
It is not speak out or be imprisioned, but their is a trend emerging:
1) Former U.S. Park Police Chief Teresa Chambers fired for arguing for adequate funding for the Park Police.
2) Richard Clarke, former White House counterterrorism coordinator, smeared for speaking against the adminstration's terrorism policies.
3) Former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill accused of leaking Top Secret Documents after critisizing the Bush adminstration (also, forced to resign for speaking out against economic policies).
4) Former Ambassador Joseph Wilson's wife, Valerie Plame is outed by Robert Novak after Wilson publicly refutes the adminstration's African uranium claims.
5) The Bush administration is still packing scientific advisory panels with ideologues and is imposing strict controls on researchers who want to share ideas with colleagues in other countries.
6) President Bush excludes countries that did not support the U.S. pre-emptive war on Iraq to stop proliferation of WMDs.
I think I'm smart because I don't use Linux :)
:)
Yeah, but now you are uncool to slashdoters (guess it could be worse
Kudos to the author for realizing that his kids are more important than the software release.
I worked for a large manufacturer of sexy computers and OS for over four years. During that time I had two children. I always felt pressure to work more/harder, and always did. Before I knew it, I was spending 100+ hours a week at the factory, and was not every seeing my familly (left home, they were asleep, got back home, they were asleep). I realized (thanks to my wife) that this was not the right thing, and took a job at a defence contractor.
Yes, by changing *where* I worked, my hours at work were cut in more than half. Now, after working at the new job for a couple of years, I've realized that the problem was not really my former employer, but me. I did not now how to set reasonable limits, ensure that team members and boses understood those limits, and then follow through. I was promising too much, taking on too much, working too much. It wasn't my employer forcing me to work too much.
Now, the change in *where* for me was big because in Startup type of companies, only a stupid boss is going refuse a person's demand for more work. In the new company, however, the culture was not to allow a person to work too much, and after being forced to work reasonable hours, I finally realized that the problem is and was mine.
So, I think you are right, the *where* is more important than the *what*. But, one needs to look at one's *attitude* first, because that is more important than the *where*.
Yes, but is this poor timing by the magazine, or a change in direction by sun? No mention of yesterday's announcement was made in the article and it may be just a pre-written article sceduled to go to press and then overcome by events. Or, it could be a rebuttal of the java announcement. Either way, poor journalism by PC Pro.
and it works a lot better.
I'd rather have it the way we have it today than have all unixes behave exactly like Windows.
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I would not want an OS that passes MY mothers tests for the same reason I do not want to drive a car that passes a "my mother" test.
Apps that have a consistant interface is a Mac OS thing, used (less successfully) in windows, Amiga OS, TOS, and nearly every GUI oriented UI but X/unix. The "mother" test is excellent test as long as it is not the only test. The book The Inmates are Running the Asylum by Alan Cooper describes the problems with UI's and offers an comprehensive method to fix them, of which having a set of diverse users "critique" the UI is a large part. Well worth the read, even though it is not easy to agree with everything the "father of Visual Basic" has to offer. Even more gui specific design (and a different view) on the problem can be found by asking Tog
The users of X have figured out how to do copy-paste the X-way and probably don't want to learn another behaviour.
Yes, that is the problem! With X, almost every app has a different behavour. You can't tell me you really use X/unix and this has never bothered you?
we dont have an educated civilization that understands the finer points of technology, or even the basics of the constitution.
I agree, but the real question is "how come?" The constitution changes so much it is hard to be educated about it. Yes, the words are the same as they were 200 years ago, but the interpretation changes quite often. And it is not in a lawyer's best interest to either not change the interpretation or to explain it to the masses.
The same holds for technology, only it changes a million times faster. If the engineers really did bring technology to the level that the masses could understand, then engineers would no longer be l33t. Whether you do it for free or for money (and whether you admit it or not), it would be hard to promote and fight for something that makes you lose your edge over the masses.
So, yes, the masses are undereducated, but it is entirely our fault, and we (for the most part) are not doing anything about it. Making code free and EASY would help, but where's the glory in that?
Sorry, you are right I know nothing about his views. (but left, right, up, or down, doesn't matter. Loony was the point. Just a poor guess on something that in today's political envirnoment should not be taken lightly. To anyone offended by my calling ESR a loony-leftist, I apologize. It is a disservice to true leftists and to ESR. And, for the record, I don't really know enough about ESR to call his a loony either. Again, to anyone offended by my calling ESR a loony-leftist, I apologize. It is a disservice to true loonies and to ESR.).
thanks for the link
I don't know what you were doing with your Winboxes, but I run a corporation(~450,000 machines) and have only had one problem in the last 3 years since they were delivered, which was easily fixed (total time invested in maintainence: ~2 mins). The only real problem was with lousy software running without a proper Linux, which I've updated to an proprietary licence. Even upgrading the entire Company to SCO Linux license was a breeze through our lawyers. Windows XP is rock solid. Don't even get me started on the previous Mac Classic computers these PCs replaced.
which I've mostly updated to OSX native apps
Bet just that took longer than ~5 hours. Remember, for a graphic design company, upgrading, fixing, etc. will count toward their IS support budget. $10k for suppporting 20 computers in a professional environment is not bad.
..easily balloon your IT support budget to over $10K a year.
No, +1 Backhanded compliant.
Try doing that today with one of these new fangled *ntium chips.
Or any other chip designed in this century.br