No, it doesn't know if it is being tricked thats why its a exploit). It does know the real site (thats how it fetched the page), but displays it incorrectly in the address bar because of the %01 in the URL. If you right click on the page and select "Properties" you can see the actual URL.
So your cookies are safe:)
This isn't as bad. You have to go to the attacker's website first for this to work. It doesn't work as a direct link from an email client because it needs to exceute javascript.
This is not a biggie as it will not work from most email clients (Outlook Express/Outlook included) as they don't allow javascript to execute. This will only work from a webpage as demonstrated.
I agree with most of your points. But the fact remains that it isn't newbie friendly, its getting close but not there yet. As I said before I like Linux too. Everytime I have tried to switch to Linux I have had to come back to Windows in a few days due to some reason or the other. I must have done that more than 25 times now (I'm not kidding). I even had problems with Mandrake which I found easiest of them all. And I consider myself pretty tech savy person (no really I am:-). I have all sorts of hardware and Linux doesn't work for me that well yet. For example I spent three days figuring out how to use my tv tuner card with linux but to no avail.
I can't blame Windows, it is not a legal entity; but I will blame Microsoft. I blame Microsoft for marketing Windows so aggressively. I blame Microsoft for forcing every brand-name x86 PC to be installed with Windows. I put the blame squarely on Microsoft for Window's popularity.
I am talking Windows, the OS, and you are talking about Microsoft, the company. Any company will try to market its products aggressively. Companies are there for making profit and Microsoft is no exception.
Apache is clearly the market leader in webservers, I don't see many worms targeting it.
Last time I checked Apache was a webserver and Windows an OS! You can't compare the two. Apache and IIS perhaps.
Ah, that is the thing... CD burning software in Windows invariably hooks into the kernel (or was it the HAL?) directly. There was this issue with Adaptec CD burning in Windows XP because of some driver incompatibility... I believe it utterly destroyed something or the other.
Where did you hear that from or you are making it up? In fact Windows uses burning engine from Roxio which is the same as Adaptec. IIRC that problem was due to some conflict in the cd burning components and Adaptec has already released a patch for it.
Linux is generally treated like a freebie - it works quite well for many people - don't make sweeping statements.
Yes, it is a freebie and works well many people but not the majority. What I was saying is that you are not forced to use the WinXP CD burning, I bet some people don't even know its there.
Closing your eyes to the reality doesn't change it.
Windows. Pray that the hardware detection wizard detects the card. Possibly
go through several reboots where windows thinks you have two cards installed, then none,
etc.
That's never happened with me.. NEVER! I am using WinXP and it mostly detects AND installs
new hardware by itself. Even if it doesn't have the drivers all I have to do is to pop in
the driver disk and all is taken care of. Windows will automatically find the best suited
driver from the CD. I don't even have to tell it the path. As a gadget freak I have all
sorts of hardware. I like Linux too but limited hardware support is one of the biggest
reason that keeps me from using it.
Install the normally very low quality driver.
Blame Windows for it?
Shitty systray icon and crashy control program.
That's only your opinion.
Windows: ANY audio file? Can I send a windows user an ogg and it'll just
play? No. Not out of the box. flac? shn? Nope.
Who uses.ogg anyways? same for other formats you have mentioned. Installing codecs on
Windows is very easy nevertheless.
Solution: install crappy shareware/adware/spyware/bloatware music player app,
which will try and hijack all your file associations, put shortcuts to it everywhere, sit in
you system tray etc. God help you if you need more than one media player. And you will.
You'll have the two shitty apps battling over file associations and default players. Popping
up 'Buy me now!' windows. Crashing. Generally having a great time.
Hmmm.. you haven't heard of Winamp, (and several other equally good free players) have you?
Plus there could be spyware for Linux too, just that nobody makes them for linux as there
are not many people using Linux. You can't blame Windows if others are making spyware for it
(same goes for worms and trojans).
"This movie I got from the internet says it's in 'xvid' format. Windows media
player can't handle that."
Hmm.. you go to google, type "xvid" and go to the first site in the search results and
download and install the codec. And NO, you don't have to recompile the kernel or go to
command line.
Windows: I understand default ripping options are very limited. Get this
crappy shareware/adware/spyware/bloatware ripper. Tries to take over your system. Repeat.
But, oh no! One of the media players I installed earlier thinks it's also an entire
media solution, and thinks it can do everything, including play/rip cds. Pity it does a shit
job of it. Another app battling for your attention.
What has the working third party app got to do with the functioning of Windows OS. I am sure
you can find a *much* better collection of CD rippers (that work well) for Windows than Linux.
Windows: cdrw drive comes with crappy burning software.
Come on now... that's like a freebie and no one is forcing you to use it. I use Nero and it works
perfectly (I have used WinXP CD burning too and it works pretty well).
Card comes with crazy proprietary software / drivers.
Yes, and it almost always supports Windows. Of course, if it doesn't support Linux you can't
blame Linux for it, but it is an advantage with windows anyhow.
Hell, Windows isn't ready for the desktop. Personally I don't care. Linux/BSD
works just fine for me (more than just fine actually), and I'm not going to be going
anywhere soon. So pontificate away.
Sure, you can close your eyes and believe whatever you want to. You are free to use whatever works for you and so are others.
If I stood outside your house all day shouting "Buy My Product!!!" over and over you'd get kind of angry wouldn't you? So why don't you get angry when corporations do the same thing via huge billboards? What exactly is the difference?
Hmmm.. the difference is that light travels in a straight lines and is stopped by opaque surfaces, sound is not. So I don't mind billboards outside my house as much as you shouting.
I don't want my computer to become an appliance like my television. I should be able to run what I want when I want to. It is not my damn responsibility to support anyone's business model.
Wrong analogy! Its not like your television. You have a choice to visit a website. If you feel the website's content isn't worth all the ads you have to bear with then don't visit that particular website, nobody is forcing you to.
Anyway, the final, and possibly biggest factor that you're missing is that of piracy--lots of what you get for cheap in third world countries isn't 100% legitimate.
We are not talking about pirated books here. These are genuine copies. Piracy of printed material is almost non-existant here (compared to software or music piracy, for instance).
Software piracy is *much* more rampant here (India), but software is a lot costlier here than in the US. The argument they give is that they have to make up for the losses due to piracy.
Slashdot Mirror
does it run linux?
totally agree!
No, it doesn't know if it is being tricked thats why its a exploit). It does know the real site (thats how it fetched the page), but displays it incorrectly in the address bar because of the %01 in the URL. If you right click on the page and select "Properties" you can see the actual URL. So your cookies are safe :)
I thought you said anyone, not Slashdot users.
Go to this page for a demonstration without using javascript or a button!
Just tested that!
This isn't as bad. You have to go to the attacker's website first for this to work. It doesn't work as a direct link from an email client because it needs to exceute javascript.
This is not a biggie as it will not work from most email clients (Outlook Express/Outlook included) as they don't allow javascript to execute. This will only work from a webpage as demonstrated.
From now on this is the link I give my friends to download IE from: http://www.microsoft.com/internetexplorer/%01@mozi lla.org
I use Opera and this does not fool it. In fact it shows a warning that the URL contains a username.
You mean something like this.
I was one of them you insensitive clod!
I'd have a ball copying all those songs for free. I am psychic you know!
I agree with most of your points. But the fact remains that it isn't newbie friendly, its getting close but not there yet. As I said before I like Linux too. Everytime I have tried to switch to Linux I have had to come back to Windows in a few days due to some reason or the other. I must have done that more than 25 times now (I'm not kidding). I even had problems with Mandrake which I found easiest of them all. And I consider myself pretty tech savy person (no really I am :-). I have all sorts of hardware and Linux doesn't work for me that well yet. For example I spent three days figuring out how to use my tv tuner card with linux but to no avail.
That's never happened with me.. NEVER! I am using WinXP and it mostly detects AND installs new hardware by itself. Even if it doesn't have the drivers all I have to do is to pop in the driver disk and all is taken care of. Windows will automatically find the best suited driver from the CD. I don't even have to tell it the path.
As a gadget freak I have all sorts of hardware. I like Linux too but limited hardware support is one of the biggest reason that keeps me from using it. Blame Windows for it? That's only your opinion. Who uses
Wrong analogy! Its not like your television. You have a choice to visit a website. If you feel the website's content isn't worth all the ads you have to bear with then don't visit that particular website, nobody is forcing you to.
Yes, they do! They are paying for the free content you get.
We are not talking about pirated books here. These are genuine copies. Piracy of printed material is almost non-existant here (compared to software or music piracy, for instance).
Software piracy is *much* more rampant here (India), but software is a lot costlier here than in the US. The argument they give is that they have to make up for the losses due to piracy.
scared the poop outta me.