Nothing except the fact that Novell has more to gain from the openness of linux than otherwise. Novell has had financial problems in the past, but I don't think they would ever do anything that would cause the company to implode the way sco has. Besides, Novell has partnership agreements with IBM and others that will keep their linux strategy, or some variation of it strong for years to come.
If you're going to worry about Novell, worry about the fact that they're integrating Mono directly into Suse to create a hybrid.NET capable operating system. Worry about the fact that Microsoft has patented almost every patentable aspect of the.NET framework, and could slap Novell with a cease and decist at a moment's notice. C# may be an open standard, but it's still subject to patents, and last I checked ADO.NET was not part of the C# standard. What Xamien's done is nothing short of cloning the next generation of Windows systems on Linux. And if that doesn't scare you, nothing will.
I do need to take issue with Robertson's stance that Microsoft will sue anyone in the desktop space. You'll notice for example, that they haven't sued Xandros and Mandrake. Gee, I wonder why. Could it be that their names don't rhyme with Microsoft's flag ship product?!
Generic term or not, if you name your competing operating system anything that even remotely sounds like Windows, you're begging for a Microsoft law suit. And I think Robertson knows it. I just wish he could be honest about it.
And don't forget peeing. Urinating on SCO's grave will be something many/.ers will partake in. I would probably join the festivities if I were in Utah to join the fun. The smelly smelly fun.
I wonder how much of this is pandering to their audience. Enterprise users are slow, stupid, and don't adapt to change very well. They have this belief that open source software == unsupported software, and no matter how much evidence to the contrary, they will take this belief to their graves. Amazing how faith works. The report by forrester is going to say whatever they think their audience wants to hear. And if they get a kick back from microsoft, all the better.
It's really not that unusual. Indiana state has something similar in their contracts. Along with the ability to ask for a complete refund for services rendered, wilst still recieving the services.
Many states, and countries do these sort of things. Ever noticed why only a very small pool of companies are willing to work as government contractors? There's a reason for that. I'm not knocking it though.
Of course, any liability for Linux would only be incurred if a) the government is extensively using Linux and b) SCO can somehow prove ownership and origin of the code.
Interesting. I think this is a good example of Microsoft testing the waters. I don't think Windows will ever be open source, but this is certainly a good start. Just think how great it would be for a company like microsoft, if they worked with open source developers the way IBM does.
I wonder what the open source landscape would be like if Microsoft were not regarded as the great satan.
It would certainly be interesting.
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Not just bad, expensive.
We've spent billions of dollars on an unnecessary war, and now we're going to spend billions more on unnecessary weapons to act as a deterrent? What about education, and jobs for Americans?
Am I the only one who gets an ominous chill down my spine when Bill Gates talks about making my computing envirenment "safer, and more secure?"
If he's subtely hinting at the DRM enahcements in Longhorn again, it really doesn't make me feel any better. It just means that I'll have even more reason to get away from Windows.
Is this a joke? What happens if I buy one? Do I get an invoice that say "april fools?" What about Gordy? Can fish really talk? What about Rabbits? Or system admins? Do you think that there will be six more weeks of winter of the sysadmin doesn't see his shadow?
I've been pretty lucky with the work itself. I can't say from that prespective that I've had a job I haven't liked for several years. It's the politics that go along with positions like mine, especially in federal and state governmental entities for example, that I don't like. But hey, I guess I should count my blessings. I had a job a few years ago, where the guy from the staffing company I was working for (brainpower) wanted me to re-negotiate my own contract. All I wanted to do was make code draw pretty pictures...
"This sounds great at first glance but my gut feeling is that most of these units sold will be reformatted with Windows."
The thing you have to remember is that these are Walmartions. These are the very same people that need online instructions on how to turn their machines on, where the anykey is, and how to use a mouse.
I have a hard time believing anyone in the demographic would be savvy enough to install their own OS.
There was a ruling a few years ago by the WTO that california envirenmental laws are too strict because the state prohibited a particular cacinagenic additive in gasonline from being sold. California was forced to allow it to be sold, and the situation boiled over.
This is one kind of corporate rule. It's sucked the jobs from our economy, driven us into recession, and made foreign multi national corporations rich at the expense of everything else.
I think banning online gambling is stupid.
But it's our country. Don't you think we should have a say in what our laws should be?
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Nothing except the fact that Novell has more to gain from the openness of linux than otherwise. Novell has had financial problems in the past, but I don't think they would ever do anything that would cause the company to implode the way sco has. Besides, Novell has partnership agreements with IBM and others that will keep their linux strategy, or some variation of it strong for years to come.
.NET capable operating system. Worry about the fact that Microsoft has patented almost every patentable aspect of the .NET framework, and could slap Novell with a cease and decist at a moment's notice. C# may be an open standard, but it's still subject to patents, and last I checked ADO.NET was not part of the C# standard. What Xamien's done is nothing short of cloning the next generation of Windows systems on Linux. And if that doesn't scare you, nothing will.
If you're going to worry about Novell, worry about the fact that they're integrating Mono directly into Suse to create a hybrid
That would be funny.
I do need to take issue with Robertson's stance that Microsoft will sue anyone in the desktop space. You'll notice for example, that they haven't sued Xandros and Mandrake. Gee, I wonder why. Could it be that their names don't rhyme with Microsoft's flag ship product?!
Generic term or not, if you name your competing operating system anything that even remotely sounds like Windows, you're begging for a Microsoft law suit. And I think Robertson knows it. I just wish he could be honest about it.
Well, it would be nice if IBM and all the others were exonerated. But no, I guess it doesn't really matter.
And don't forget peeing. Urinating on SCO's grave will be something many /.ers will partake in. I would probably join the festivities if I were in Utah to join the fun. The smelly smelly fun.
I wonder how much of this is pandering to their audience. Enterprise users are slow, stupid, and don't adapt to change very well. They have this belief that open source software == unsupported software, and no matter how much evidence to the contrary, they will take this belief to their graves. Amazing how faith works. The report by forrester is going to say whatever they think their audience wants to hear. And if they get a kick back from microsoft, all the better.
It's really not that unusual. Indiana state has something similar in their contracts. Along with the ability to ask for a complete refund for services rendered, wilst still recieving the services.
Many states, and countries do these sort of things. Ever noticed why only a very small pool of companies are willing to work as government contractors? There's a reason for that. I'm not knocking it though.
Of course, any liability for Linux would only be incurred if a) the government is extensively using Linux and b) SCO can somehow prove ownership and origin of the code.
I wouldn't count my penguins before they hatch.
Yeah, it's pretty damn unlikely. But I could see it happening at some point.
Neat!
Now all I need is my cardboard mooning man cut out to put in my window. Hoo ha!
Interesting. I think this is a good example of Microsoft testing the waters. I don't think Windows will ever be open source, but this is certainly a good start. Just think how great it would be for a company like microsoft, if they worked with open source developers the way IBM does.
I wonder what the open source landscape would be like if Microsoft were not regarded as the great satan.
It would certainly be interesting.
Not just bad, expensive. We've spent billions of dollars on an unnecessary war, and now we're going to spend billions more on unnecessary weapons to act as a deterrent? What about education, and jobs for Americans?
Am I the only one who gets an ominous chill down my spine when Bill Gates talks about making my computing envirenment "safer, and more secure?" If he's subtely hinting at the DRM enahcements in Longhorn again, it really doesn't make me feel any better. It just means that I'll have even more reason to get away from Windows.
Sure it is, that's why we have the internet.
Actually I was going for funny.
C'mon people, it's only Slashdot.
Nice. Count me in.
Since when did anything have anything to do with morality?
You're absolutely right.
Let's you and me go to India and open up a sweatshop.
Is this a joke?
What happens if I buy one?
Do I get an invoice that say "april fools?"
What about Gordy?
Can fish really talk?
What about Rabbits?
Or system admins?
Do you think that there will be six more weeks of winter of the sysadmin doesn't see his shadow?
What's next, thought crime?
No it won't.
I've done it.
What a silly assumption...
I've been pretty lucky with the work itself. I can't say from that prespective that I've had a job I haven't liked for several years. It's the politics that go along with positions like mine, especially in federal and state governmental entities for example, that I don't like. But hey, I guess I should count my blessings. I had a job a few years ago, where the guy from the staffing company I was working for (brainpower) wanted me to re-negotiate my own contract. All I wanted to do was make code draw pretty pictures...
The thing you have to remember is that these are Walmartions. These are the very same people that need online instructions on how to turn their machines on, where the anykey is, and how to use a mouse.
I have a hard time believing anyone in the demographic would be savvy enough to install their own OS.
Yep.
The frivality of it all...
Maybe now PANIP can stop harassing small business owners and do whatever it is that they did before.
Shit heads...
We don't know that. Yahoo was king for several years. This recent sentament that google "owns" anything is stupid.
:)
In any case, I think the real winners in this one are going to be those of us that figure out how to leverage these services for our online shops.
This is going to be a good holiday season
There was a ruling a few years ago by the WTO that california envirenmental laws are too strict because the state prohibited a particular cacinagenic additive in gasonline from being sold. California was forced to allow it to be sold, and the situation boiled over.
This is one kind of corporate rule. It's sucked the jobs from our economy, driven us into recession, and made foreign multi national corporations rich at the expense of everything else.
I think banning online gambling is stupid.
But it's our country.
Don't you think we should have a say in what our laws should be?
It doesn't really sound much like a new language. It sounds more like a programming methodology. Which is great... if you call it that.
But I need those...