1) Find me a fast CPU with 7 usable cores for that money. --- that doesnt mean anything. who needs 7 cores?
2) I'm really excited about Blu-Ray because of its storage capacity and HD resolution; if it's cheaper than other Blu-Ray players at release time it'll be a bargain, otherwise it will drive the cost of Blu-Ray players right down as nobody's going to buy a low/mid-range player that costs as much as/more than the PS3. Win/win for Sony and the consumer. --- HD-DVD will be much cheaper and have a larger market share leading to faster adoption
3) Selling gaming hardware at a loss a la Xbox is a bad idea; it encourages the use of mega cheapo components (again, a la Xbox i.e. the overheating PSUs and dead fans) and drives up the cost of games + cripples developers. --- sony would be selling at a loss with the ps3, they did with teh ps2, every console is sold at a loss and the money is made back on the profit on the software. the 360 is sold at a lost, but theres a catchment ratio of 4.2:1 so they've probably made that loss back already!
4) If the UK gets the PS3 at the same time as other markets, it saves the early adopter lots of cash / air miles so I reckon the average cost for such a consumer to be lower than other releases such as the PlayStation 1 - people used to buy imported ones for £600+. --- there will still be stock flow issues, they havent even got a single working prototype yet. at E3 they had three different dev kits showcasing the different sides of it. i still imagine fanboys struggling to get consoles in their countries so they'll pick it up abroad or get it on ebay for 10 times the price.
5) Sony is using this money from its loyal customer base and stronger than steel franchise to produce a hugely innovative console. Kudos to them for using these assets to do something ambitious. --- you mean taking the piss out of the early adopters, abusing the loyal fanbase of hardcore gamers to make money off them to get the casual gamer
6) If you look at the rise in cost of the "enthusiast" graphics card solutions that PS3 is competing with, against the rise in cost of the PlayStation consoles, the situation looks a bit different. --- its a bodged geforce chipset that is based on PC architecture from 6months ago. the 360 is custom a designed chipset based on what will be in PCs in about 6months time. the 360 wins the graphics chipset war hands down
Personally, I'm looking forward to preordering my UK PS3, and if you think £425 is expensive, wait till you see what they'll go for on ebay during the Christmas rush! --- which is why i'll be preordering mine, to sell back on ebay straight away. PS: The extra cash for the UK version is what it costs the lorries in fuel duty to get from the docks to the stores;P
i've got the orange m2000 ( another blue angel) but the wifi signal strength is a bit naff and so it doesnt work unless you're standing next to the access point. i hope they can fix this in a ROM undate
in theory, its the perfect device. but in practice, it just falls short
I agree about the "make the box worth having" view. its the same as cd's > mp3s etc. i think that if you make the cd worth buying, by either having music videos, making ofs, documentaries, alternate mixes, acoustic sessions, live tracks on a bonus disc would make me more willing to shell out £10 for an album. same applies here. halo2 limited edition has a bonus dvd with making of stuff and loads of extra stuff. I will be buying that.
Wrong,
When you update, all user data is retained.
Even if for some reason it did lose it all, you can backup/restore to the SD memory card, your pc via active sync, or via gprs to Orange Backup!
GPRS is free for SPV users as part of the promotion pack.
Get your facts straight!
Do you have any idea what you're talking about?!
Smartphone is a brilliant OS. The SPV in the UK is a fantastic phone.
I've been using it since November when it was launched, and there hasnt been a single OS update! The updates have been for more efficient firmware and drivers.
These were downloaded via a PC and copied on to the phone when sync'd.
Yes you can...
The SPV is a fantastic phone.
There was never any problems with the OS, only the Orange side of it. The firmware upgrade has improved performance and batterylife and its now a very good phone/pda.
It's ignorance like this that inspires more anti-MS crap.
You're probably one of those people who "would never touch an Xbox because its made by MS" What the hell is that about! Grow up
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1) Find me a fast CPU with 7 usable cores for that money.
;P
--- that doesnt mean anything. who needs 7 cores?
2) I'm really excited about Blu-Ray because of its storage capacity and HD resolution; if it's cheaper than other Blu-Ray players at release time it'll be a bargain, otherwise it will drive the cost of Blu-Ray players right down as nobody's going to buy a low/mid-range player that costs as much as/more than the PS3. Win/win for Sony and the consumer.
--- HD-DVD will be much cheaper and have a larger market share leading to faster adoption
3) Selling gaming hardware at a loss a la Xbox is a bad idea; it encourages the use of mega cheapo components (again, a la Xbox i.e. the overheating PSUs and dead fans) and drives up the cost of games + cripples developers.
--- sony would be selling at a loss with the ps3, they did with teh ps2, every console is sold at a loss and the money is made back on the profit on the software. the 360 is sold at a lost, but theres a catchment ratio of 4.2:1 so they've probably made that loss back already!
4) If the UK gets the PS3 at the same time as other markets, it saves the early adopter lots of cash / air miles so I reckon the average cost for such a consumer to be lower than other releases such as the PlayStation 1 - people used to buy imported ones for £600+.
--- there will still be stock flow issues, they havent even got a single working prototype yet. at E3 they had three different dev kits showcasing the different sides of it. i still imagine fanboys struggling to get consoles in their countries so they'll pick it up abroad or get it on ebay for 10 times the price.
5) Sony is using this money from its loyal customer base and stronger than steel franchise to produce a hugely innovative console. Kudos to them for using these assets to do something ambitious.
--- you mean taking the piss out of the early adopters, abusing the loyal fanbase of hardcore gamers to make money off them to get the casual gamer
6) If you look at the rise in cost of the "enthusiast" graphics card solutions that PS3 is competing with, against the rise in cost of the PlayStation consoles, the situation looks a bit different.
--- its a bodged geforce chipset that is based on PC architecture from 6months ago. the 360 is custom a designed chipset based on what will be in PCs in about 6months time. the 360 wins the graphics chipset war hands down
Personally, I'm looking forward to preordering my UK PS3, and if you think £425 is expensive, wait till you see what they'll go for on ebay during the Christmas rush!
--- which is why i'll be preordering mine, to sell back on ebay straight away.
PS: The extra cash for the UK version is what it costs the lorries in fuel duty to get from the docks to the stores
and people said the 360 launch was full of sequels...
it clearly states on the skype website that it wont work over gprs. only wifi gprs is not designed for constant data streaming, only burst packets.
i've got the orange m2000 ( another blue angel) but the wifi signal strength is a bit naff and so it doesnt work unless you're standing next to the access point. i hope they can fix this in a ROM undate
in theory, its the perfect device. but in practice, it just falls short
I agree about the "make the box worth having" view.
its the same as cd's > mp3s etc.
i think that if you make the cd worth buying, by either having music videos, making ofs, documentaries, alternate mixes, acoustic sessions, live tracks on a bonus disc would make me more willing to shell out £10 for an album.
same applies here. halo2 limited edition has a bonus dvd with making of stuff and loads of extra stuff. I will be buying that.
Wrong, When you update, all user data is retained. Even if for some reason it did lose it all, you can backup/restore to the SD memory card, your pc via active sync, or via gprs to Orange Backup! GPRS is free for SPV users as part of the promotion pack. Get your facts straight!
Do you have any idea what you're talking about?! Smartphone is a brilliant OS. The SPV in the UK is a fantastic phone. I've been using it since November when it was launched, and there hasnt been a single OS update! The updates have been for more efficient firmware and drivers. These were downloaded via a PC and copied on to the phone when sync'd.
Yes you can... The SPV is a fantastic phone. There was never any problems with the OS, only the Orange side of it. The firmware upgrade has improved performance and batterylife and its now a very good phone/pda. It's ignorance like this that inspires more anti-MS crap. You're probably one of those people who "would never touch an Xbox because its made by MS" What the hell is that about! Grow up