ARRRRRG! It makes me so mad! I love Apple, and I think they make some decent product for particular application, but/why oh why/ must they have their heads so far up their own asses? If they really think that the shape of their box is whats going to keep selling their machiens, they're in the wrong business! Get back to hardware and software you fools! My PC is an offwhite box with no distinguishing features, and I still love it to death.
Thankfully, this mess doesn't apply to me (yet) as I am in Canada. If I were American though, I'd fight like a dog. If an authority has a warrant to my house, comes in, searches, finds my computer, then breaks into that, fine. Thats in the physical realm, and I know whats going on. But them searching your computer without you knowing whats going on? You know, I can't help but wonder if/everyone/ was more.. well.. resposible and law abiding, we wouldn't live in an age of paranoia anyhow. Somewhere along the line the focus shifted from making laws that suited society to making society to fit the laws.
Give me a URL.. I searched over http://apache.org and couldn't find information on any such support for Active Server Pages. Not to mention I'd think MS wouldn't be too happy if Apache supported it?
I feel it neccessary to reply to myself and point out I was KIDDING!! I just wanted to illustrate how easy it is to invent a mildly plausible conspiracy given a limited scope of information.
Call up Windows Teck support (oxymoron), and ask them why Windows won't display such and such a widget correctly after you've customized. They'll tell you to stop using 3rd party hacks and hang up.
Now send email to a KDE devel list noting a bug in/their/ GUI customizablity module... you're garaunteed someone will take a look and fix it.
Customizability is native in KDE, the way it should be. You actually have to/hack/ Windows to get the same results, with no channel for support if it fails.
Looks like a bunch of 3rd party hacks to me. There's no inherent ability to change window bitmaps in Windows. In the very least, no control panel to do such (only to change colors.. uh, whee). At any rate, it ain't the customizability. It's the integration with the OS (for those who havn't figured it out yet, Windows GUI is not strictly an OS).. the registry, and file type management under Windows is a pretty big mess. CORBA under KDE is looking pretty damn sweet. Imagine a GUI where the user doesn't need to know what app to use to view a particular file (ie lotsa Windows users.. Windows manages it in a half assed sorta way.. KDE looks to be the bomb for this sort of this. I knew you could customize Windows to a degree, but it's still a pain.
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Hey, I liked it all until "Eat that GNOME kiddies." Your argument was well thought out, but was the (arguably) flame bait really neccessary? In the end, you use what you like anyhow. If no one started these loyalty wars, more people would probably try/both/ of them and decide for themselves. As it stands, people tend these days to stick to their guns with which ever product they tried first.
Well, from what I can see, KDE still has the best chance of being the Windows killer.. lets face it, the biggest thing stopping windows sheep from using Linux is the lack of a robust, fully functional GUI. And while the vets might argue other window managers offered it, I still think its the KDE team thats going to have the best chance of bridging that gap. I work with a guy who swears by command line - what he's yet to understand is that neither command line nor GUI are in themselves better than the other. It's the proper balance, and a well thought out GUI that actually increases productivity. I think the KDE team has got the best vision so far. The increased use of CORBA in KDE 2.0 is really what has me on the edge of my seat though....
> "Let's assume that every information worker in the United States suffers a computer crash, on the average, of once per day - hardly an exaggeration. And let's say that each crash results in a minimum of two hours spent retrieving, repairing or replacing a lost document."
Am I the only person in the world who saves his work at regular intervals and has a computer that doesn't crash every day? There are some/real/ voodoo calculations going on in his article. By the way, I'll say it again, I don't see anyone pointing out that the inherent complexity of creating a given product (car, house) goes up as the complexity of our tools goes up. Think about it.
Hear hear. Way to the nail on the head. "nonethical" practices, Intel monopoly... who cares? (and by the way, why is it such a surprise that MB manufactures might back down at making boards that support the competition? Everytime you eat at a restaurant, they only serve Coke/or/ Pepsi, rarely both... )
The simple fact is that the AMD processors, as the market stands right now, are the fastest, cheapest (?), best processors out there. I've seen nothing to dispute these claims, and so far, no "hidden catches" in the purchase of an AMD processor.
Productivity has not increased... kind of an all emcompasing saying, akin to "Music has not gotten more complex since 1800".
But this is my take:
Projects are getting bigger and bigger, and more information is needed to tackle any given project. Just like it may have taken us a few months to build a house back in 1900, now that we have more tools, we build more complex and bigger houses. So the end product takes the same amount of time to build. But the resultant product is more complex anyhow....
YACU (Yet Another Clueless User) has done it again; bought into Linux as the solution to everything computerese like people think Aloe cures every skin problem.
The problem here: A) You/can/ run Linux on Apple hardware. So whats the issue? (LinuxPPC)
B) MacOS is a prooven, popular OS in the media/art/music industry. Dropping MacOS would garauntee that hundreds of music makers you listen to everyday would have to switch and suffer the wrath of Windows. And all their happy music might turn to sad music.
C) "give us great software" - with Darwin, they are trying more than ever to forfit some of their proprietary knowledge to let the developers into the action. The "get developers to fix it for free" argument is stupid. No developer is/forced/ to worked on the source, so how are they imposing on the community? Obviously, if you have an interest into making your OS of choice better, what could be bad about getting the critical sources to it?
D) The USA Networks movie of which you speak (Pirates of Silicon Valley) is a movie. With actors. And lines. And stuff. Believing Jobs is exactly like how an actor protrayed him on USA Networks just goes to show that you can't formulate well thought out opinions of your own based on personal research.
Everybody, lets scare Intel. If I have to see one more commercial with men in silvery suits dancing because their processor is so gosh darn fun, or commercial that tells me my 'processor makes the internet faster', I'm gunna cry. The word on the street is that the Merced is going to do your laundry and pay your bills for you too.
The K7 has scored very very well in benchmarking so far (all reviews I've seen have beaten out the P3, and MSI/FIC/Giga's MBoards are apparently just as fast as AMDs referance board), so it looks like AMD has done exactly what it said it was going to do - increase FP performance. If I were in the market, I'd buy a K7 when they came out. Not only because they look like they're the head of the pack right now, but I really believe AMD deserves a pat on the back. From the looks of it, they assesed their weaknesses, and fixed them.
Oh, for sure, most wars like this end up with MS in the victory circle. Frankly, I'm kind of susprised this is such a big issue. I had assumed (wrongly) that ICQ was the most common IM type software anyhow?
People forget word of mouth, and how important the sentences "Man, that looks like its going to be cool" and "Man, that's going to suck" are. One of the main reasons behind a car's commercial success is how many of your friends buy it or how many of them you see on the road. BWP got its name out, granted, but from then on, it's all word of mouth.
Since more and more people are starting to take an affinity towards 'underground' culture - that is, culture that doesn't come from the production house of a multibillion-dollar corperation - BWP was the perfect movie to tell your friends about. It showed that you were underground saavy. It showed you didn't buy into the 'mainstream' advertising channel.
As for Katz, he's sounding more and more incoherant every day. For all the points he raises, he sure has a hard time organizing them into any sensible flow of thought.
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ARRRRRG! It makes me so mad! I love Apple, and I think they make some decent product for particular application, but /why oh why/ must they have their heads so far up their own asses? If they really think that the shape of their box is whats going to keep selling their machiens, they're in the wrong business! Get back to hardware and software you fools! My PC is an offwhite box with no distinguishing features, and I still love it to death.
Thankfully, this mess doesn't apply to me (yet) as I am in Canada. If I were American though, I'd fight like a dog. If an authority has a warrant to my house, comes in, searches, finds my computer, then breaks into that, fine. Thats in the physical realm, and I know whats going on. But them searching your computer without you knowing whats going on? You know, I can't help but wonder if /everyone/ was more .. well .. resposible and law abiding, we wouldn't live in an age of paranoia anyhow. Somewhere along the line the focus shifted from making laws that suited society to making society to fit the laws.
As soon as gravity stops fighting me, I'd imagine.
They just wern't released, according to the change_log.
I'll be damned. Give the man a cookie! :)
http://java.apache.org/jserv/index.html
... comes as a mod_jserv for Apache.
Looks like it does
Give me a URL .. I searched over http://apache.org and couldn't find information on any such support for Active Server Pages. Not to mention I'd think MS wouldn't be too happy if Apache supported it?
If you want ASP support, coddle those who made it and run IIS. Whats wrong with PHP3 and/or Java (does Apache support servelets for that matter?)
Or are we talking about moving an ASP web app over to Apache (the noble motive behind such a request)?
Woohoo! New apache! Rejoice!
My fave: TWAIN - Technology Without an Interesting Name .. a communication protocal for data aquisition across SCSI, I think?
I feel it neccessary to reply to myself and point out I was KIDDING!! I just wanted to illustrate how easy it is to invent a mildly plausible conspiracy given a limited scope of information.
No. Then companies would just resort to "It'll be out when its out, damnit. Stop asking." I'm not sure which approach is worse.
To put it another way:
/their/ GUI customizablity module ... you're garaunteed someone will take a look and fix it.
/hack/ Windows to get the same results, with no channel for support if it fails.
Call up Windows Teck support (oxymoron), and ask them why Windows won't display such and such a widget correctly after you've customized. They'll tell you to stop using 3rd party hacks and hang up.
Now send email to a KDE devel list noting a bug in
Customizability is native in KDE, the way it should be. You actually have to
Looks like a bunch of 3rd party hacks to me. There's no inherent ability to change window bitmaps in Windows. In the very least, no control panel to do such (only to change colors .. uh, whee). At any rate, it ain't the customizability. It's the integration with the OS (for those who havn't figured it out yet, Windows GUI is not strictly an OS) .. the registry, and file type management under Windows is a pretty big mess. CORBA under KDE is looking pretty damn sweet. Imagine a GUI where the user doesn't need to know what app to use to view a particular file (ie lotsa Windows users .. Windows manages it in a half assed sorta way .. KDE looks to be the bomb for this sort of this. I knew you could customize Windows to a degree, but it's still a pain.
Hey, I liked it all until "Eat that GNOME kiddies." Your argument was well thought out, but was the (arguably) flame bait really neccessary? In the end, you use what you like anyhow. If no one started these loyalty wars, more people would probably try /both/ of them and decide for themselves. As it stands, people tend these days to stick to their guns with which ever product they tried first.
Well, from what I can see, KDE still has the best chance of being the Windows killer .. lets face it, the biggest thing stopping windows sheep from using Linux is the lack of a robust, fully functional GUI. And while the vets might argue other window managers offered it, I still think its the KDE team thats going to have the best chance of bridging that gap. I work with a guy who swears by command line - what he's yet to understand is that neither command line nor GUI are in themselves better than the other. It's the proper balance, and a well thought out GUI that actually increases productivity. I think the KDE team has got the best vision so far. The increased use of CORBA in KDE 2.0 is really what has me on the edge of my seat though ....
> "Let's assume that every information worker in the United States suffers a computer crash, on the average, of once per day - hardly an exaggeration. And let's say that each crash results in a minimum of two hours spent retrieving, repairing or replacing a lost document."
/real/ voodoo calculations going on in his article. By the way, I'll say it again, I don't see anyone pointing out that the inherent complexity of creating a given product (car, house) goes up as the complexity of our tools goes up. Think about it.
Am I the only person in the world who saves his work at regular intervals and has a computer that doesn't crash every day? There are some
Hear hear. Way to the nail on the head. "nonethical" practices, Intel monopoly ... who cares? (and by the way, why is it such a surprise that MB manufactures might back down at making boards that support the competition? Everytime you eat at a restaurant, they only serve Coke /or/ Pepsi, rarely both ... )
The simple fact is that the AMD processors, as the market stands right now, are the fastest, cheapest (?), best processors out there. I've seen nothing to dispute these claims, and so far, no "hidden catches" in the purchase of an AMD processor.
Productivity has not increased ... kind of an all emcompasing saying, akin to "Music has not gotten more complex since 1800".
....
But this is my take:
Projects are getting bigger and bigger, and more information is needed to tackle any given project. Just like it may have taken us a few months to build a house back in 1900, now that we have more tools, we build more complex and bigger houses. So the end product takes the same amount of time to build. But the resultant product is more complex anyhow
YACU (Yet Another Clueless User) has done it again; bought into Linux as the solution to everything computerese like people think Aloe cures every skin problem.
/can/ run Linux on Apple hardware. So whats the issue? (LinuxPPC)
/forced/ to worked on the source, so how are they imposing on the community? Obviously, if you have an interest into making your OS of choice better, what could be bad about getting the critical sources to it?
The problem here:
A) You
B) MacOS is a prooven, popular OS in the media/art/music industry. Dropping MacOS would garauntee that hundreds of music makers you listen to everyday would have to switch and suffer the wrath of Windows. And all their happy music might turn to sad music.
C) "give us great software" - with Darwin, they are trying more than ever to forfit some of their proprietary knowledge to let the developers into the action. The "get developers to fix it for free" argument is stupid. No developer is
D) The USA Networks movie of which you speak (Pirates of Silicon Valley) is a movie. With actors. And lines. And stuff. Believing Jobs is exactly like how an actor protrayed him on USA Networks just goes to show that you can't formulate well thought out opinions of your own based on personal research.
The end.
Everybody, lets scare Intel. If I have to see one more commercial with men in silvery suits dancing because their processor is so gosh darn fun, or commercial that tells me my 'processor makes the internet faster', I'm gunna cry. The word on the street is that the Merced is going to do your laundry and pay your bills for you too.
The K7 has scored very very well in benchmarking so far (all reviews I've seen have beaten out the P3, and MSI/FIC/Giga's MBoards are apparently just as fast as AMDs referance board), so it looks like AMD has done exactly what it said it was going to do - increase FP performance. If I were in the market, I'd buy a K7 when they came out. Not only because they look like they're the head of the pack right now, but I really believe AMD deserves a pat on the back. From the looks of it, they assesed their weaknesses, and fixed them.
What if /Tom/ is on the take from AMD? From the tone of the story, that'd make sense. See? Conspiracies arn't that hard to propagate .. ;)
Oh, for sure, most wars like this end up with MS in the victory circle. Frankly, I'm kind of susprised this is such a big issue. I had assumed (wrongly) that ICQ was the most common IM type software anyhow?
I concurr. So long as the protocol is out there, and someone can release a double duty instant messenger, I'm all for it.
/. support? ;)
But it's ironic, eh? I see a bunch of people decidedly anti-MS, pro-AOL on this issue. 3 years aho, who woulda thought AOL'd be recieving
People forget word of mouth, and how important the sentences "Man, that looks like its going to be cool" and "Man, that's going to suck" are. One of the main reasons behind a car's commercial success is how many of your friends buy it or how many of them you see on the road. BWP got its name out, granted, but from then on, it's all word of mouth.
Since more and more people are starting to take an affinity towards 'underground' culture - that is, culture that doesn't come from the production house of a multibillion-dollar corperation - BWP was the perfect movie to tell your friends about. It showed that you were underground saavy. It showed you didn't buy into the 'mainstream' advertising channel.
As for Katz, he's sounding more and more incoherant every day. For all the points he raises, he sure has a hard time organizing them into any sensible flow of thought.