The obvious reference here is everything else. While viruses do exist for them, a good firewall and a smart user is enough to ensure security for them. And in the rare occasion of an infection, it's better to restore from a backup then to run an AV program all the time.
Okay, I've read through most of the comments in the thread and decided we've determined nothing. Key arguments include:
1. Opera has corporate backing and Firefox doesn't
Opera users argue that this implies Opera has more responsibility for it's software and produces higher quality products. Firefox users argue that this is a moot point as FF is still high quality AND open source. Of course the fact that a product is open source is a big deal for a lot of slashdotters because we actually take advantage of that fact. In general, this argument definately doesn't convince anyone here (though your boss may like it).
2. Opera is a smaller download and has more built-in features
This is an obvious trade off. On the one hand, Opera users argue that a browser with all the features included saves them time and headaches between downloading and managing extensions. FF users argue that it makes more sense to bundle a browser with nothing, and let the user customize it the way he/she likes. Further, Opera users argue problems upgrading FF with necessary extensions while diehard FF users argue such problems do not exist. Another instance of personal experience. There cannot be a right or wrong answer here. Only a preference. As mentioned before though, it would be beneficial for Firefox to ease the extension business at install time by letting the user customize which extensions to include at install time. The extensions should also be required to keep up with release dates so nobody gets left crippled in a browser upgrade. I want to mention that the concept of a smaller size download but with more features is a horrible point. You download it once and that's it. Anywhere less than maybe 10mb is pointless to consider. It's comparable to arguing runtimes on a test driver with small input. You run the test a couple of times so who the hell cares?
3. Opera speed/responsiveness vs. FF
This is obviously just user experience. Some users say Opera was many orders faster than FF while others say FF shows no speed sacrifices. This is another preference that should be weighed with the extensions vs. all-in-one argument. That said, Firefox is intended to be a quick browser so they would do well to try and keep up with Opera speed whenever possible (and also vice versa).
4. Opera with ads or payment vs. FF entirely free
FF users argue ads in a browser is an automatic turn off. Likewise with a fee for a web browser. Opera users either argue the ad isn't annoying or that paying money is worth it (based on other reasons to like Opera). I understand Opera has to make money, but I believe that web browsers are so available today that none should ever come with ads, nor should I have to pay to get rid of them. If Opera is looking to expand their user base, they will have to find a way to make their browser free from cost and ads. Simple as that.
5. Opera security vs. FF
Who the hell cares? So long as IE remains dominant, both of these two are many orders more secure than IE. See the article posted on slashdot yesterday.
6. Features Opera has vs. what FF doesn't
The (web browsing) features I hear Opera uses singing the praises of are zooming on webpages and mouse gestures. Both require the user to consider how often they will be using the feature. For example: if they'll use mouse gestures all the time:Opera, sometimes FF w/gestures extension, never, FF w/o gestures. All those features that Opera has and FF doesn't I discovered to be features I don't (or wouldn't) use so I don't bother. Nobody should try to argue that Opera got the feature first so Opera is better. But I believe this is only brought up when FF users tout the features Opera already has and therefore I understand. Firefox developers will need to continue to review the features that Opera has and implement them in the browser or through extensions if necessary. (in the same vein, Opera should do the same if such features exist-does Opera have FAYT?)
Ooooo Pooling research in teams. That's a cool feature. The Civ series should implement that. I've always been pissed off when I'm closely allied with another nation who is fairly even with me technologically. We'd always have to trade technologies to stay ahead of our enemies.
Without a doubt, the single most effective anti-spyware tool is a customized Hosts file. (you may have to turn off any proxy server settings in order for it to work, but that's worth it).
But why stop the party there? Our plan is to continue growing your storage beyond 2GBs by giving you more space as we are able
They discovered that a gigabyte is great, but 99% of all users aren't using more than a megabyte a year. Therefore, they really don't need to worry about limits. They just add on more disk space for the few users who actually need it.
The hell you talking about? http://mozilla.org/ Google's the problem anyways. I think the problem is those # symbols are translated to %23 in the URL which doesn't work (Firefox bug maybe?).
The problem is senator Clinton assumes that video games and children go hand in hand. This is certainly not the case. She doesn't understand that there are video games (like GTA) that are not designed for children. Adults and video games are not mutually exclusive.
The biggest issue is that most parents think the same way. Most don't bother to investigate what kind of games their chilren are playing. They assume that it's a video game so it must be designed for children.
If the government wants to fix this problem, they need to make stores enforce those ESRB ratings the same way stores and theatres honour the MPAA rating system.
So this thread sparked me to do my own review. I never really thought there was a problem with it but I see where the author is coming from. Seems to me from doing ls/etc that the apps are doing a great job. I have a gimp directory, a cups directory, a gaim directory, etc. That is an execellent solution because on the one hand, I know the config file I have to edit is inside/etc somewhere, but it doesn't make the directory "messy" by creating a ton of.conf files. It seems the failures here are the distros because out of all the other files in there, they are either present thanks to UNIX history (/etc/passwd) or because the distribution put it there (/etc/issue,/etc/motd,/etc/redhat-release, etc.)
So I agree with you,/etc is close but not quite there. I think the directory needs: 1. Exactly ONE directory for every application that requires some kind of config files 2. Exactly ONE directory for necessary distribution settings 3. Each config file should be of the form fileName.conf as is the current convention 4. ONLY subdirectories in/etc to begin. Should the admin wish to use a file in/etc, the admin should use ln -s. 5. In a somewhat similar fashion to HKEY_LOCAL_USER, I want my.whatever files conglomerated into a.etc/ directory which follows the same conventions as the above. Actually I think any program at all should try to find a.etc/appname/configFile.conf first, if it isn't there, it should fall back on/etc/appname/configFile.conf (system services/non-login programs could either refer to/root/.etc/appname/configFile.conf or could be forced to use the default/etc/appname/configFile.conf).
The last point is pretty important because those.config files are just as much a problem as/etc. I did a count on my home directory and I have 90 (!) hidden files.
The real key is: "How to we make anything the convention in *nix" especially while Linux branches as many times as it wants. We need to find a set of big names who do Unix/Linux and get them to agree on some kind of standard to follow for directory structure (W3C style!). I don't know, sounds like it's something we'll have to live with.
(I know I'm getting pretty specifc on Linux here. I have little experience with any other *nix types so I welcome any corrections)
Ignore the last comment, replied to the wrong message. I do intend to roll through bugs.kde.org to see if it's been done. the biggest problem with bug reporting is to ensure it's reproducible and absolute and that takes time.
Not only that, but I found I can't even use Konqueror for web browsing at all anymore. Any link I visit in Konqueror opens up Firefox. That's okay though, I might just have to go back and fix that setting. Definately not what I expected though.
Slashdot Mirror
Like what for example?
The obvious reference here is everything else. While viruses do exist for them, a good firewall and a smart user is enough to ensure security for them. And in the rare occasion of an infection, it's better to restore from a backup then to run an AV program all the time.
Shame on the testers who didn't catch this.
:(
No shit! I wasted several hours trying to get my computer running again. How come they didn't?!
though I had nothing better to do anyway
Microsoft has just bought out Adobe!
Okay, I've read through most of the comments in the thread and decided we've determined nothing. Key arguments include:
1. Opera has corporate backing and Firefox doesn't
Opera users argue that this implies Opera has more responsibility for it's software and produces higher quality products. Firefox users argue that this is a moot point as FF is still high quality AND open source. Of course the fact that a product is open source is a big deal for a lot of slashdotters because we actually take advantage of that fact. In general, this argument definately doesn't convince anyone here (though your boss may like it).
2. Opera is a smaller download and has more built-in features
This is an obvious trade off. On the one hand, Opera users argue that a browser with all the features included saves them time and headaches between downloading and managing extensions. FF users argue that it makes more sense to bundle a browser with nothing, and let the user customize it the way he/she likes. Further, Opera users argue problems upgrading FF with necessary extensions while diehard FF users argue such problems do not exist. Another instance of personal experience. There cannot be a right or wrong answer here. Only a preference. As mentioned before though, it would be beneficial for Firefox to ease the extension business at install time by letting the user customize which extensions to include at install time. The extensions should also be required to keep up with release dates so nobody gets left crippled in a browser upgrade.
I want to mention that the concept of a smaller size download but with more features is a horrible point. You download it once and that's it. Anywhere less than maybe 10mb is pointless to consider. It's comparable to arguing runtimes on a test driver with small input. You run the test a couple of times so who the hell cares?
3. Opera speed/responsiveness vs. FF
This is obviously just user experience. Some users say Opera was many orders faster than FF while others say FF shows no speed sacrifices. This is another preference that should be weighed with the extensions vs. all-in-one argument. That said, Firefox is intended to be a quick browser so they would do well to try and keep up with Opera speed whenever possible (and also vice versa).
4. Opera with ads or payment vs. FF entirely free
FF users argue ads in a browser is an automatic turn off. Likewise with a fee for a web browser. Opera users either argue the ad isn't annoying or that paying money is worth it (based on other reasons to like Opera). I understand Opera has to make money, but I believe that web browsers are so available today that none should ever come with ads, nor should I have to pay to get rid of them. If Opera is looking to expand their user base, they will have to find a way to make their browser free from cost and ads. Simple as that.
5. Opera security vs. FF
Who the hell cares? So long as IE remains dominant, both of these two are many orders more secure than IE. See the article posted on slashdot yesterday.
6. Features Opera has vs. what FF doesn't
The (web browsing) features I hear Opera uses singing the praises of are zooming on webpages and mouse gestures. Both require the user to consider how often they will be using the feature. For example: if they'll use mouse gestures all the time:Opera, sometimes FF w/gestures extension, never, FF w/o gestures. All those features that Opera has and FF doesn't I discovered to be features I don't (or wouldn't) use so I don't bother.
Nobody should try to argue that Opera got the feature first so Opera is better. But I believe this is only brought up when FF users tout the features Opera already has and therefore I understand.
Firefox developers will need to continue to review the features that Opera has and implement them in the browser or through extensions if necessary. (in the same vein, Opera should do the same if such features exist-does Opera have FAYT?)
I think Opera and FF develo
**some pages don't render right since some people only test with explorer
That should read: Some people who shouldn't build webpages are building webpages.
You are referring to this:y
about:config->browser.cache.memory.capacit
(reduce that number)
I have tried it and haven't seen any real noticeable difference.
Ooooo
Pooling research in teams. That's a cool feature. The Civ series should implement that. I've always been pissed off when I'm closely allied with another nation who is fairly even with me technologically. We'd always have to trade technologies to stay ahead of our enemies.
Any other tips?
Without a doubt, the single most effective anti-spyware tool is a customized Hosts file. (you may have to turn off any proxy server settings in order for it to work, but that's worth it).
Read the link:
But why stop the party there? Our plan is to continue growing your storage beyond 2GBs by giving you more space as we are able
They discovered that a gigabyte is great, but 99% of all users aren't using more than a megabyte a year. Therefore, they really don't need to worry about limits. They just add on more disk space for the few users who actually need it.
The hell you talking about?
http://mozilla.org/
Google's the problem anyways.
I think the problem is those # symbols are translated to %23 in the URL which doesn't work (Firefox bug maybe?).
The problem is senator Clinton assumes that video games and children go hand in hand. This is certainly not the case. She doesn't understand that there are video games (like GTA) that are not designed for children. Adults and video games are not mutually exclusive.
The biggest issue is that most parents think the same way. Most don't bother to investigate what kind of games their chilren are playing. They assume that it's a video game so it must be designed for children.
If the government wants to fix this problem, they need to make stores enforce those ESRB ratings the same way stores and theatres honour the MPAA rating system.
Now if the NBA could just get the players to sign a deal we'd be on easy street.
So this thread sparked me to do my own review. I never really thought there was a problem with it but I see where the author is coming from. Seems to me from doing ls /etc that the apps are doing a great job. I have a gimp directory, a cups directory, a gaim directory, etc. That is an execellent solution because on the one hand, I know the config file I have to edit is inside /etc somewhere, but it doesn't make the directory "messy" by creating a ton of .conf files. It seems the failures here are the distros because out of all the other files in there, they are either present thanks to UNIX history (/etc/passwd) or because the distribution put it there (/etc/issue, /etc/motd, /etc/redhat-release, etc.)
/etc is close but not quite there. I think the directory needs: /etc to begin. Should the admin wish to use a file in /etc, the admin should use ln -s. .whatever files conglomerated into a .etc/ directory which follows the same conventions as the above. Actually I think any program at all should try to find a .etc/appname/configFile.conf first, if it isn't there, it should fall back on /etc/appname/configFile.conf (system services/non-login programs could either refer to /root/.etc/appname/configFile.conf or could be forced to use the default /etc/appname/configFile.conf).
.config files are just as much a problem as /etc. I did a count on my home directory and I have 90 (!) hidden files.
So I agree with you,
1. Exactly ONE directory for every application that requires some kind of config files
2. Exactly ONE directory for necessary distribution settings
3. Each config file should be of the form fileName.conf as is the current convention
4. ONLY subdirectories in
5. In a somewhat similar fashion to HKEY_LOCAL_USER, I want my
The last point is pretty important because those
The real key is: "How to we make anything the convention in *nix" especially while Linux branches as many times as it wants. We need to find a set of big names who do Unix/Linux and get them to agree on some kind of standard to follow for directory structure (W3C style!). I don't know, sounds like it's something we'll have to live with.
(I know I'm getting pretty specifc on Linux here. I have little experience with any other *nix types so I welcome any corrections)
At the risk of being modded redundant, my first thought was bluecurve.
Ignore the last comment, replied to the wrong message. I do intend to roll through bugs.kde.org to see if it's been done. the biggest problem with bug reporting is to ensure it's reproducible and absolute and that takes time.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10713
Did anybody else think of those tubes they use to send messages around in Futurama? Kind of like a physical version of email.
Not only that, but I found I can't even use Konqueror for web browsing at all anymore. Any link I visit in Konqueror opens up Firefox. That's okay though, I might just have to go back and fix that setting. Definately not what I expected though.
Support for text-shadow! Hope this will pressure Mozilla to do likewise.
We are also taught not to make faulty code in the first place
Does Slashdot ever verify the information it links to? As if we need the disclaimer.
Consider these results:
Don't Copy that Floppy !?!? and...
pathetic
This user has already implemented six degrees in Wikipedia: http://kohl.wikimedia.org/kates-tools/sixdeg.actio n
Getting wasted at a kegger...
Getting laid by the hot chick you just met...
Initiation to get in the frat...
Streaking across the football field...
Lord knows us nerds would jump at the opportunity to do this (if only in virtual reality).
Ah, I see, I'm not familiar with rsync. Thanks for pointing that out.