Unlike the tar and bzip and gzip combinations, zip allows you to compress and archive in one step, this simplicity is why windows users (the vast majority of computer users) use it instead of some combination of unix programs.
This very same simplicity is exactly why I
use things like a little z switch of tar. *sigh*
Next time please check your "facts"
before you start to spread such
a misinformation.
Thank you.
The tar manual might help you with that.
many of you have already mentioned,
I personally would rather stick with.tar.gz and.tar.bz2, while not touching the.zip so called "standard" with a mile long stick.
If (by which I mean IF)
this.zip thing was a standard,
it would not be going to "fragment,"
period.
I think everyone will agree with me.
Gzip is a standard. Bzip2 is a standard.
Tar is a standard. Zip is NOT
a standard. And I see absolutely no reason to
use slower, compression-ratio-wise poorer,
proprietary,
as well as otherwise inferior "standard"
(notice the quote marks), when we have
real standards available.
I frankly agree with most of people
about this subject.
It's a good thing, that this news has been posted
on Slashdot.
solarisguy writes "I saw earlier today on JavaGaming.org that Reality Interactive released a non-playable demo of Quake in Windows or Linux flavors, implemented entirely in Java. (...)"
I have lots of non-playable games in Linux flavors, implemented entirely in win32 API...
Of course, I am joking.
This is great news.
When most of games in stores start
to be written in Java,
I am sure many GNU users
will use them
(at least those,
who have no moral objections to
use proprietary software) and there will
be finally no reason to use Windows and
therefore to preinstall it by OEMs.
This could be a great long term strategic
success. We need more people using free software
at home, especially in the age of
corporations looking at such software with
suspicion because of
corrupted companies, like the infamous
dying S.C.O. who
tries to extort money never minding the
implications to the society at large.
I agree with most of people here.
Now lets count the number of lines in every.c file in linux-2.4.20.tar.bz2...
TMPFILE=`mktemp/tmp/$0.XXXXXXX` for i in $(for i in $(for i in $(find./|grep "\.c"|grep -v Documentation);do cat $i|wc -l;done);do echo $i;done);do echo -n $i+>>${TMPFILE};done;echo "0">>${TMPFILE};echo quit>>${TMPFILE};bc -q ${TMPFILE};rm ${TMPFILE}
Which gives us 3332935 (including comments but hey we're lazy).
You call it lazy? I would call this lazier:
cat `find -name \*.c`|wc -l
Call me old-fashioned, but somehow I do not
really think typing 933% of the sufficient
number of characters is lazy indeed.
I would rather call
it not lazy at all.
Fancy? Sure.
Entertaining? Of course.
Smart? No doubt.
Intelligent? Why not.
(Well, maybe not counting 'find./|grep "\.c"' used instead of 'find -name \*.c'.)
But do I think it is lazy?
That I do surely not.
What **argv size limit?
Of course, as I am sure all of the intelligent
Slashdotters have already noticed,
my command will not work everywhere.
In that case, let me propose this:
Did you consider his sig may be a piss take.
Blonde bimbo, beware, I'm so beautiful.
I am terribly sorry, but I find this childish
and sexist remark of yours highly offensive.
(Please don't mind if I don't even
comment the pun in your subject...)
I have really no idea why people react with
such anger, when anyone dares to declare
one's Mensa membership
(or any other kind of superiority,
while we are at it).
We can argue that high IQ doesn't mean someone
is a better thinker, or that
the first place in a marathon doesn't mean
someone is a better runner.
But I surely hope even people which are not members of Mensa themselves
soon will discover that such an argument
is just plain ignorant, so you all might
at the very least try to think about it,
before we go to far
and consider every single test ever made,
every score, every human characteristic
completely meaningless.
On a related note, anti-virus programs is one place where I can actually see a potential useful application of "trusted computing" (no, not necessarily Palladium). If there could be some way to to tell the OS "Look, I don't care if you're the administrator or not: the only programs that are allowed to terminate the anti-virus scanner process are the scanner itself, and, say, Task Manager".
You seem to have no idea about
trusted computing,
and still you get moderated as
Score:5, Interesting...
Now, this is really interesting, indeed.
*sigh*
Please do us a favor and
read at least Ross Anderson's
Trusted Computing Frequently Asked Questions
for God's sake...
How can Palladium have anything to do with "trust" when they violate trust and anything else by intruding into my computer and controlling my content?
*sigh*
I have read every single comment
to this story,
which is talking about how these systems
supposedly cannot be called "trusted systems."
Everyone here is wrong.
You would know that, if you knew were
the term "trusted system" originates from.
It has been used in US DoD for much
longer, than the whole recent "DRM" hype
has been around.
A "trusted system" is a system,
which can break the security policy.
No more, no less.
I'm really surprised that no one here knows
what one is talking about. Well,
maybe not that surprised,
however quite annoyed, to say the very least.
This whole "DRM" buzzword hype has been around
for quite some time already, and still
it causes so much misunderstanding.
We just cannot effectively fight against
anything, which we don't even understand.
We have to always remember that,
if we are ever going to change anything.
"[Darl McBride, SCO's chief executive stated] that unless more companies start licensing SCO's property, he may also sue Linus Torvalds, who is credited with inventing the Linux operating system, for patent infringement."
Why won't he sue Richard Stallman, while he's at it?
After all SCO has said that whole programs were
copied ("stolen" if your will) and we know
that Linux is a kernel
(and quite monolithic at that),
not a bunch of programs.
*sigh*
Hey! Darl!!! Can you hear me?!
Will you please finally read
this?
Pretty please?
I myself was thinking of using Debian, but I never heard of Festival... I'll definately look it up though.
Festival is a speech synthesis system. Under
Debian,
just type "apt-get install festival festival-doc" (and festival-dev if you want to use it in your own programs).
It has a nice built-in
Scheme-based command interpreter.
Also, take a look at
BrlSpeak,
a Braille and Speech Mini-Distribution of GNU/Linux. It is based on Debian,
developed by
Osvaldo La Rosa, visually impaired Debian user.
Let me quote the website:
Objective:
BrlSpeak is here to make life easier for blind people who wish to install a GNU/Linux distribution on their computer WITHOUT ANY assistance from a sighted person.
The objective is to create and develop a blindfriendly GNU/Linux distribution enabling a blind user:
a) To preconfigure the braille driver config file before running GNU/Linux
b) To compile the braille driver without having to see (or to hear)
c) To have the braille display immediately operational when booting GNU/Linux for the first time
BrlSpeak can be installed on a FAT partition.
There's a 36MB.zip file or CD ISO9660 image for
download.
There's also Free(b)deb,
a Free(b)soft's
specialized linux distribution based on Debian GNU/Linux. From the website:
The goal of the Free(b)deb project is to provide a specialized distribution of complete Debian GNU/Linux operating system including specialized software, which enables blind and visually impaired users to work with computer.
However I'm not sure how to install it and where
to download it from.
(I don't talk about Blinux, as it
has already been mentioned in the story.)
On behalf of myself and all of the other slashdot idiots, I apologize.
Apology accepted.
Sadly, not everyone is as educated or intelligent as you are.
Sadly, indeed.
Wow, get off yourself buddy. Slashdot is not a mensa meeting.
I think Slashdot could learn quite a lot
from Mensa meetings. Unfortunately
(or should I say fortunately?)
most of the people from Slashdot
would never be allowed to enter
such a meeting.
(By the way, it's Mensa, with capital M.
Please show at least some
respect, thank you.)
In real life, people smile when someone makes a joke.
In Mensa life (I suppose it's not "real" for you, because of which I can only
say, that I'm sorry)
we do smile (or even laugh, mind you)
when someone makes a good
and intelligent joke.
(Please notice "good"
and "intelligent" keywords.)
Please read the
Mensa Constitution and you will see there is
nothing about what you are
poorly trying to
implicate, i.e. that intelligent people
cannot have any sense of humor.
btw, could you imagine a beowulf cluster of these?
You mean a virtual honeynet
running on VMware, which in turn runs on a
beowulf cluster?
Actually,
due to the virtualization overhead,
it would be much
smarter to run a
standard
(i.e.
non-virtual) honeynet,
if you have many computers
to run it on, now wouldn't it?
Just imagine what you can do with VMware, vimage-FreeBSD and UML all running on the same machine!
Bring my crappy computer to a screeching halt?
No.
*sigh*
It would allow you to build a very flexible
virtual honeynet, which you might want to
read about, before you post another poor joke,
proving that you have no idea at all about the
subject
(I won't even say anything about
your percieved intelligence).
I am terribly sorry to disappoint you,
but speaking as someone, who is widely
considered a network security expert,
I can assure you, that anyone
who is into network security and has IQ
over 50,
hearing your jokes,
laughs at you, not
with you.
I think it is very sad that
almost every single comment to this story
was posted by equally ignorant person, like yourself
(some of them even has links to sick, probably illegal, pornography content, and they could be subject to prosecution, depanding on their
jurisdiction).
Please don't take it personally, but these are people like you, whom we all should thank for
the low reputation of the average member
of Internet community, regarding
total ignorance of the importance of
Open- and FreeBSD developers'
role in the Internet
security as a whole.
It is a very important and interesting subject.
You might really consider educating yourself.
Don't be afraid, it doesn't hurt.
I've heard about the idea and development
of the vimage patch and
this is a great news, that it's
finally done and fully functional.
Some of those ideas are not really new,
as anyone who knows OS/390 could tell you,
but it's really great they can now be used
in FreeBSD systems.
For those of you, who know that I'm involved
in building honeynets,
it won't be a surprise, that I am really
(by which I mean really)
looking forward to use those new features
in my future honeypots, firewalls
and other security-related projects.
Actually, those features seem to be created
just exactly to be used for
deploying virtual honeynets.
Just imagine what you can do with VMware,
vimage-FreeBSD and UML all running on the same machine!
These (somewhat controversial, I might add) news
are not, in fact, new (at
the very least, they are not new to anyone, who reads
scientific press).
Still, I'm surprised and,
I can't deny it, somewhat disapointed,
how little interest in this subject
the Slashdot has shown.
I was expecting an interesting debate,
but I guess we have much more important
things to discuss right now.
(Street Fighter Anniversary, anyone?)
For anyone, who would like to read much more
about the subject, I suggest checking out
links on The Google News Service. There's a lot
of great articles there.
It is important to read many stories
with different bias on this interesting subject.
Bismuth-209 was commonly thought to be the heaviest stable element.
Actually, most of the scientists believed
it was stable, however not everyone.
(Some of them were considered "crackpots"
by the rest of the community, but
the point remains valid, even if somewhat
less so.)
Try a
Google search.
There maybe really is some hope...
We should thank all of the people who are
constantly helping in this fight
for freedom.
They don't have money and power,
like the pro-DMCA people do,
but they are on the right side.
Thank you!
It is a good time to
donate money to EFF, without which,
we could already forget about on-line freedom.
...how long before someone will compromise the database. I have yet to see a security solution,
developed in a closed environment,
which is indeed secure. (GSM, anyone?)
I wish more people had read Bruce Schneier's books. But what do I know?
I don't have lobbiests in EU... *sigh*
...I think that the original Daikatana
should be released as free software.
Just imagine the possibilities, when
we all could develop the sequel the
way we want it. Because, I'm afraid,
that in the proprietary sequel,
the original spirit could be lost forever.
opensource.org/sco-vs-ibm.html
on
Today's SCO News
·
· Score: 5, Informative
Well, it's not exactly a new star, in a sense that it was formed recently. It is just a recently discoverd, but a very old star. The Slashdot summary is somewhat misleading, but the article is very interesting, I highly recommend reading it. Not that I posted this story two hours before, only to have it rejected... *sigh*
I am terribly sorry to say that,
but I find your sexist jokes highly offensive.
You might consider being a little bit more
intelligent next time. Thank you.
What is this? Slashdot or a bunch of
bored kids with to much time on their
hands?
Slashdot Mirror
This very same simplicity is exactly why I use things like a little z switch of tar. *sigh* Next time please check your "facts" before you start to spread such a misinformation. Thank you. The tar manual might help you with that.
many of you have already mentioned, I personally would rather stick with .tar.gz and .tar.bz2, while not touching the .zip so called "standard" with a mile long stick.
If (by which I mean IF)
this .zip thing was a standard,
it would not be going to "fragment,"
period.
I think everyone will agree with me.
Gzip is a standard. Bzip2 is a standard.
Tar is a standard. Zip is NOT
a standard. And I see absolutely no reason to
use slower, compression-ratio-wise poorer,
proprietary,
as well as otherwise inferior "standard"
(notice the quote marks), when we have
real standards available.
I frankly agree with most of people
about this subject.
It's a good thing, that this news has been posted
on Slashdot.
solarisguy writes "I saw earlier today on JavaGaming.org that Reality Interactive released a non-playable demo of Quake in Windows or Linux flavors, implemented entirely in Java. (...)"
I have lots of non-playable games in Linux flavors, implemented entirely in win32 API... Of course, I am joking. This is great news. When most of games in stores start to be written in Java, I am sure many GNU users will use them (at least those, who have no moral objections to use proprietary software) and there will be finally no reason to use Windows and therefore to preinstall it by OEMs. This could be a great long term strategic success. We need more people using free software at home, especially in the age of corporations looking at such software with suspicion because of corrupted companies, like the infamous dying S.C.O. who tries to extort money never minding the implications to the society at large. I agree with most of people here.
You call it lazy? I would call this lazier:
cat `find -name \*.c`|wc -l
Call me old-fashioned, but somehow I do not really think typing 933% of the sufficient number of characters is lazy indeed. I would rather call it not lazy at all. Fancy? Sure. Entertaining? Of course. Smart? No doubt. Intelligent? Why not. (Well, maybe not counting 'find ./|grep "\.c"' used instead of 'find -name \*.c'.)
But do I think it is lazy?
That I do surely not.
What **argv size limit?
Of course, as I am sure all of the intelligent Slashdotters have already noticed, my command will not work everywhere. In that case, let me propose this:
find -name \*.c -exec cat {} \;|wc -l
which I still find much lazier.
Other than that, I agree.
Did you consider his sig may be a piss take. Blonde bimbo, beware, I'm so beautiful.
I am terribly sorry, but I find this childish and sexist remark of yours highly offensive. (Please don't mind if I don't even comment the pun in your subject...)
I have really no idea why people react with such anger, when anyone dares to declare one's Mensa membership (or any other kind of superiority, while we are at it).
We can argue that high IQ doesn't mean someone is a better thinker, or that the first place in a marathon doesn't mean someone is a better runner. But I surely hope even people which are not members of Mensa themselves soon will discover that such an argument is just plain ignorant, so you all might at the very least try to think about it, before we go to far and consider every single test ever made, every score, every human characteristic completely meaningless.
You seem to have no idea about trusted computing, and still you get moderated as Score:5, Interesting... Now, this is really interesting, indeed. *sigh* Please do us a favor and read at least Ross Anderson's Trusted Computing Frequently Asked Questions for God's sake...
kd@w12:~$ ls -l `which login` /bin/login
-rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 34984 Jan 17 2003
-- which means, that login in Unix/GNU/Linux is SUID root and world executable, i.e. it just couldn't possibly have any more privileges.
Other than that, I agree with you.
*sigh*
I have read every single comment to this story, which is talking about how these systems supposedly cannot be called "trusted systems."
Everyone here is wrong.
You would know that, if you knew were the term "trusted system" originates from. It has been used in US DoD for much longer, than the whole recent "DRM" hype has been around.
A "trusted system" is a system, which can break the security policy. No more, no less.
I'm really surprised that no one here knows what one is talking about. Well, maybe not that surprised, however quite annoyed, to say the very least.
This whole "DRM" buzzword hype has been around for quite some time already, and still it causes so much misunderstanding.
We just cannot effectively fight against anything, which we don't even understand. We have to always remember that, if we are ever going to change anything."[Darl McBride, SCO's chief executive stated] that unless more companies start licensing SCO's property, he may also sue Linus Torvalds, who is credited with inventing the Linux operating system, for patent infringement."
Why won't he sue Richard Stallman, while he's at it? After all SCO has said that whole programs were copied ("stolen" if your will) and we know that Linux is a kernel (and quite monolithic at that), not a bunch of programs.
*sigh*
Hey! Darl!!! Can you hear me?! Will you please finally read this? Pretty please?
Festival is a speech synthesis system. Under Debian, just type "apt-get install festival festival-doc" (and festival-dev if you want to use it in your own programs). It has a nice built-in Scheme-based command interpreter.
I think Debian is a great choice for vision impaired users. Take a look at the Debian Accessibility Project and Accessibility HOWTO. There are even speakup enabled boot floppies for Woody (Debian 3.0, the current stable version).
Also, take a look at BrlSpeak, a Braille and Speech Mini-Distribution of GNU/Linux. It is based on Debian, developed by Osvaldo La Rosa, visually impaired Debian user. Let me quote the website:
BrlSpeak can be installed on a FAT partition. There's a 36MB .zip file or CD ISO9660 image for
download.
There's also Free(b)deb, a Free(b)soft's specialized linux distribution based on Debian GNU/Linux. From the website:
However I'm not sure how to install it and where to download it from.
(I don't talk about Blinux, as it has already been mentioned in the story.)
Good luck.
Apology accepted.
Sadly, indeed.
I think Slashdot could learn quite a lot from Mensa meetings. Unfortunately (or should I say fortunately?) most of the people from Slashdot would never be allowed to enter such a meeting. (By the way, it's Mensa, with capital M. Please show at least some respect, thank you.)
In Mensa life (I suppose it's not "real" for you, because of which I can only say, that I'm sorry) we do smile (or even laugh, mind you) when someone makes a good and intelligent joke. (Please notice "good" and "intelligent" keywords.)
Please read the Mensa Constitution and you will see there is nothing about what you are poorly trying to implicate, i.e. that intelligent people cannot have any sense of humor.
You mean a virtual honeynet running on VMware, which in turn runs on a beowulf cluster? Actually, due to the virtualization overhead, it would be much smarter to run a standard (i.e. non-virtual) honeynet, if you have many computers to run it on, now wouldn't it?
No.
*sigh*
It would allow you to build a very flexible virtual honeynet, which you might want to read about, before you post another poor joke, proving that you have no idea at all about the subject (I won't even say anything about your percieved intelligence).
I am terribly sorry to disappoint you, but speaking as someone, who is widely considered a network security expert, I can assure you, that anyone who is into network security and has IQ over 50, hearing your jokes, laughs at you, not with you.
I think it is very sad that almost every single comment to this story was posted by equally ignorant person, like yourself (some of them even has links to sick, probably illegal, pornography content, and they could be subject to prosecution, depanding on their jurisdiction).
Please don't take it personally, but these are people like you, whom we all should thank for the low reputation of the average member of Internet community, regarding total ignorance of the importance of Open- and FreeBSD developers' role in the Internet security as a whole.
It is a very important and interesting subject. You might really consider educating yourself. Don't be afraid, it doesn't hurt.
(I hope I haven't just "fed the troll." *sigh*)
I've heard about the idea and development of the vimage patch and this is a great news, that it's finally done and fully functional. Some of those ideas are not really new, as anyone who knows OS/390 could tell you, but it's really great they can now be used in FreeBSD systems.
For those of you, who know that I'm involved in building honeynets, it won't be a surprise, that I am really (by which I mean really) looking forward to use those new features in my future honeypots, firewalls and other security-related projects.
Actually, those features seem to be created just exactly to be used for deploying virtual honeynets. Just imagine what you can do with VMware, vimage-FreeBSD and UML all running on the same machine!
Great work, Marko.
...when the Debian packages will be available for apt-getting? Thanks.
These (somewhat controversial, I might add) news are not, in fact, new (at the very least, they are not new to anyone, who reads scientific press). Still, I'm surprised and, I can't deny it, somewhat disapointed, how little interest in this subject the Slashdot has shown. I was expecting an interesting debate, but I guess we have much more important things to discuss right now. (Street Fighter Anniversary, anyone?) For anyone, who would like to read much more about the subject, I suggest checking out links on The Google News Service. There's a lot of great articles there. It is important to read many stories with different bias on this interesting subject.
Bismuth-209 was commonly thought to be the heaviest stable element.
Actually, most of the scientists believed it was stable, however not everyone. (Some of them were considered "crackpots" by the rest of the community, but the point remains valid, even if somewhat less so.) Try a Google search.
I will not answer this question, because I'm sure no matter what I am wearing right now, you would find some way to comment it in a sexiest way.
There maybe really is some hope... We should thank all of the people who are constantly helping in this fight for freedom. They don't have money and power, like the pro-DMCA people do, but they are on the right side. Thank you! It is a good time to donate money to EFF, without which, we could already forget about on-line freedom.
...how long before someone will compromise the database. I have yet to see a security solution, developed in a closed environment, which is indeed secure. (GSM, anyone?) I wish more people had read Bruce Schneier's books. But what do I know? I don't have lobbiests in EU... *sigh*
...I think that the original Daikatana should be released as free software. Just imagine the possibilities, when we all could develop the sequel the way we want it. Because, I'm afraid, that in the proprietary sequel, the original spirit could be lost forever.
OSI Position Paper on the SCO-vs.-IBM Complaint by Eric Raymond, President of The Open Source Initiative. Do we really have to say more, than what have already been said?
Oh, I see, thanks, now I understand. :-) Sorry!
I may be new here, but it doesn't make my point any less valid.
Well, it's not exactly a new star, in a sense that it was formed recently. It is just a recently discoverd, but a very old star. The Slashdot summary is somewhat misleading, but the article is very interesting, I highly recommend reading it. Not that I posted this story two hours before, only to have it rejected... *sigh*
I am terribly sorry to say that, but I find your sexist jokes highly offensive. You might consider being a little bit more intelligent next time. Thank you. What is this? Slashdot or a bunch of bored kids with to much time on their hands?