Don't worry, cculianu is hardly informed. Just take a look at his clueless "FreeBSD is nonfree" rants, and then he posts this "Yahoo's IM is free" garbage.
He is a moron.
That's an interesting way of looking at the situation; I've generally considered NetBSD to be a very clean architecture, probably the most under-promoted of the *BSDs. Similarly, I wish Matt Dillon and the DragonFly project the best of luck with their vision of the BSD world...
I realize that many people compare FreeBSD->Dragonfly to NetBSD->OpenBSD, but I don't particularly agree with this trend. Not to bash OpenBSD or anything.
That aside, I use FreeBSD as my workstation OS at the moment, and I'm happy with it.
..but SDL's support for joysticks/gamepads on *BSD is lackluster, if not completely omitted. (this might change as the newest CVS version seems to be aware of this problem)
I can't say for what gaming on Linux is like, though when I get my third system, a Gentoo system up, I'll be able to comment.
First of all, I could care less about what the FSF has to say about "Free Software" licenses, since they do not advocate them. GNU and FSF might claim to advocate "Freedom," but they really advocate a different principle, and that is "Liberation."
To define freedom:
freedom ( P ) Pronunciation Key (frdm)
n.
1. The condition of being free of restraints.
To define liberation:
liberation ( P ) Pronunciation Key (lb-rshn)
n.
1. The act of liberating or the state of being liberated.
Now that the terms have been defined, it is quite clear that freedom says absolutely *nothing* about "maintaining freedom," though liberation *clearly* reflects what GNU is trying to achieve with the GPL.
I'm not certain why potential lack of "GPL compatability" is of concern to anyone. I don't see anyone criticizing the GPL for "lack of BSD, MIT, and Public Domain license compatability," which I find to be a serious problem.
I find it apalling that slashdot has the audacity to state that "The FSF has a good page about the problems with BSD-style advertising clauses." So, let me get this straight, a site/post that highlights the problems with copyleft in the GPL is a troll, and a site/post that highlights the problems with attribution in the BSDL is insightful? Definitely/. bias here.
On a practical level, the advertising clause shouldn't be an issue, (it never has been, with Internet Explorer, Mozilla, or Mac OS X) as far as practical use is concerned. Also, advertising clauses are not anti-copyleft. It is simply a matter of the GPL deciding to break compatability with such licenses. GPL-like licenses such as the MPL I believe have no such restriction.
Simply put, the only real problem with advertising clauses is that RMS doesn't tolerate them.
ROFL, yeh, it's you alright but your post is hypocritical.
Pretty funny, IMHO. All of your GNU comments make it to +5 in a few minutes, so when you post some rant about Linux being GNU/Linux, the merits of GNU, how RMS is sacred and should be worshipped, how proprietary software is evil, How BSD developers/users should like a license that they can't even use code from, how only L33zrs call Free Software "open source," or other related bs, see how long it takes to get modded up to +5 "Insightful"
Of course, GNU and GNU/Linux users are never zealots. Never. I've never seen Gentoo or Debian zealots before! Never! I guess they don't exist! And you never rant about licenses either. Ever.
GNU, Linux, and GNU/Linux might be nice, but it's advocates are idiots.
> Hahhahah rofl. TenDRA is the BSD equivalent of
> own communities, but newbie-zealots tell
> everyone that they are going to be ready Real
> Soon Now.
How is TenDRA "stupid?" Every project has to start somewhere. I'm sure people said the same thing about gcc when it started out. That aside, Tendra is in a relatively mature state AFAIK, though I don't think its portable to many platforms, yet.
> While a small few people occasionally hack
> TenDRA, GCC has 10 or so full time hackers and a
> raft of part time hackers working on improving it.
I'm not saying TenDRA is "ready," but don't belittle it; GCC didn't take 20 years to get useable. If you think its such a "waste of time," then why do you respect any Free Software projects? Guess its just not worth your time, huh?
OTOH, I don't follow GNU, but I don't see GNU/HURD as being a stupid project either. It has some fairly innovative ideas and could make a great operating system in its own right.
> I think Hurd is a less-stupid project than TenDRA,
However, as far as "actual use" goes, I think TenDRA will make it there faster than HURD would. A compiler is much less work than an entire operating system...
In all honesty, I'm sick and tired of hearing trolls bash interesting niche projects just because they aren't the "latest big thing."
So, the French goverment intends to oppose expression of any religious views?
How is this decision by the French government secular? How someones choice to wear religious clothing "forced on you?" Missionaries are "forced on you," not clothing.
More importantly, what about religious minorities in a region? Maybe this clothing gives them a sense of identity that they believe they are losing by being part of that soceity.
This doesn't sound like separation of the church and state to me, it sounds like secular humanism. Er... that's athiesm isn't it daddy?
I more or less disagree with western religions, but it seems to me that the French government is making a terrible PC mistake here...
> What is it that separates foobar from Winamp?
It *doesn't* have an annoying per-application skin like winamp does. I prefer skins like windowblinds, gtk themes, (or qt themes, you get the idea) so that way all my programs match.
Not to be a HIG Nazi, but application consistency is important to me. This, more than anything else makes Foobar the first, and only media player I like for windows.
> rather a lot of the code under the "bsd"
> directory is not all that different from
> the versions in other BSDs.
Interesting; I'll definitely have to take a look at the Darwin code then. I was aware that it wasn't a full-blown microkernel as GNU/Hurd is, but I didn't realize that it actually used BSD code at the kernel level.
> See the "Merge of Darwin msdosfs, other fixes"
> item in the FreeBSD 5.2 Open Issues list.
I have to admit that I wasn't aware of this either; Now, I'm looking forward to seeing those enhancements go into 5.2-RELEASE.:)
> Ya and you know why they give back
> to GCC and not FreeBSD itself?
> BECAUSE GCC IS GPL!
Wrong, wrong. The reason why not much is given back (if thats even the situation) would be due to the fact that the OSes are completely different in design. A monolithic kernel as opposed to a microkernel... c'mon, these are totally different. Code sharing between the two would be impractical. That aside, I don't think Apple's done a great deal of work in SMP, which is where FreeBSD seems to want to go right now. In all honesty, I don't think FreeBSD has much interest in Mac OS X code unless its aqua or quartz.
That aside, Apple *has* contributed HFS+ to FreeBSD, (now I'm not claiming that this is an earth shaking contribution, but hey it is something) which is about as many contributions that SGI or some of those Linux companies contributed to Linux, anyway.
It seems to me like companies interested in Free Software *nix Oses seem to donate filesystems, and not much else... Of course maybe that's just my impression...
On a userland level, FreeBSD is pretty much complete. Thats where Apple would be contributing, and why would they fix something that isn't broken?
If Apple contributed code, I don't think the license would be an issue, since they could just relicense the contributed code (without affecting their license).
Reading these emails sounds like a whiny grandson complaining to his grandparents.
While Harold Hunt's intent and concerns were valid, he was unable to convey his concerns in a respectable manner. OTOH, David Dawes didn't seem very respectable, either.
This sort of event was a petty argument, and should be acknowleged as nothing more... I can't believe this was slashdotted...
> I don't understand why anybody would want to
> change bash to tcsh.
Same here.
> And today, I'm left contemplating whether I should
> change my default shell in Linux to tcsh.
Go for it. When I was using Slackware Linux, I used tcsh as my default shell, (I can't stand bash personally) and I never had any problems of that nature. From what I understand the bourne-dependent scripts that would take issue with this would default to bourne or bash anyway.... Defaulting root to tcsh might cause issues though, haven't tried that.
Considering that Apple seems to avoid gpl'd programs, (curl vs. wget for example) using bash instead of tcsh is quite strange. From an end-user perspective, it makes absoutely no difference, both are excellent interactive shells, and scripting shouldn't be an issue either.
I personally use tcsh, but I write my scripts for bourne. The bash scripting argument is weak if you ask me, simply because it isn't as portable as sh, and its extensions offer very little (if anything) beyond bourne for scripting. Whenever I run into a "bash script" I port it to bourne... immediately.
This seems more like a popularity move than anything else the way I see it...
Interesting ideas about nuclear space technology can be found at nuclearspace
My view on it is this: Safety is important, but with all great things in life, there is risk involved. Space travel is by no means an exception to this rule.
If NASA isn't willing to take risks, then who is?
If someone doesn't do something *no progress* is going to be made. Well, at least China and Japan are putting some effort in to their space programs...
From what I understand, regular Wine seems work with just about any standard application. I've played around with it for some time, and almost everything works, *assuming* the registry is configured correctly. Most strange glitches in Wine just go away if you fine tune your configuration.
I've used Wine for many obscure applications, including: Nero, PowerDesk, LC2 Assembler/Simulator, and ePSXe. All applications worked with varying degrees of glitches, but I think if I extracted the registry entries from windows natively, most of those issues would not be present.
I'm not certain if Crossover Office this has any direct relation to the regular Wine codebase, but to me it sounds like a "Wine plus support" release.
Documentation is another story. Frank's Wine Corner is a good start though. Among other things, he documents how to get Office 2000 and Baldur's Gate working. Also, I found a howto for Photoshop, which I've heard works quite well. When I get around to it, I would like to start a similar howto site with full registry tweak details.
--Tim
new topic: who needs mtv anymore?
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I think a better topic would be "who needs mtv anymore?" I for one don't have anything against radio, though I don't use it as a means to listen to new music. But that's just because I'm a tech zealot, no other reason.
I think internet radio is the future of music, and this *could* come in the form of p2p, but don't count on it... p2p is not the end-all of music.
C'mon people, at least radio hasn't become a mass-media wasteland yet... (at least not to the degree that music videos already have) Give it some credit guys.
Agreed. Both OSes are relatively equal with strengths in given areas. (Although as a biased BSD user I would have to say that I like *BSD far more, even beyond its versatile license)
Of course, I would have to say that the GPL is better harmony with communism, given its "share!! share!!!" approach.
--Tim
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Don't worry, cculianu is hardly informed. Just take a look at his clueless "FreeBSD is nonfree" rants, and then he posts this "Yahoo's IM is free" garbage. He is a moron.
I realize that many people compare FreeBSD->Dragonfly to NetBSD->OpenBSD, but I don't particularly agree with this trend. Not to bash OpenBSD or anything.
That aside, I use FreeBSD as my workstation OS at the moment, and I'm happy with it.
I Can't wait for Dragonfly to mature.
This was my rationale, as explained on my page:
1) to emulate the feel of the HP 9000 ITF HIL keyboard.
2) the UNIX vi editor was designed with the same keyboard layout in mind
Finally, I don't know about you, but I don't use emacs. Real men don't use their editor to play audio files.
Grump, taking credit for my patch, huh? I wonder if my page is going to survive a slashdotting... Maybe?
ROFL, this guy might be a troll, but he's a damn clever one at that... ;)
..but SDL's support for joysticks/gamepads on *BSD is lackluster, if not completely omitted. (this might change as the newest CVS version seems to be aware of this problem) I can't say for what gaming on Linux is like, though when I get my third system, a Gentoo system up, I'll be able to comment.
To define freedom:
freedom ( P ) Pronunciation Key (frdm) n.
1. The condition of being free of restraints.
To define liberation:
liberation ( P ) Pronunciation Key (lb-rshn) n.
1. The act of liberating or the state of being liberated.
Now that the terms have been defined, it is quite clear that freedom says absolutely *nothing* about "maintaining freedom," though liberation *clearly* reflects what GNU is trying to achieve with the GPL.
I'm not certain why potential lack of "GPL compatability" is of concern to anyone. I don't see anyone criticizing the GPL for "lack of BSD, MIT, and Public Domain license compatability," which I find to be a serious problem.
I find it apalling that slashdot has the audacity to state that "The FSF has a good page about the problems with BSD-style advertising clauses." So, let me get this straight, a site/post that highlights the problems with copyleft in the GPL is a troll, and a site/post that highlights the problems with attribution in the BSDL is insightful? Definitely /. bias here.
On a practical level, the advertising clause shouldn't be an issue, (it never has been, with Internet Explorer, Mozilla, or Mac OS X) as far as practical use is concerned. Also, advertising clauses are not anti-copyleft. It is simply a matter of the GPL deciding to break compatability with such licenses. GPL-like licenses such as the MPL I believe have no such restriction.
Simply put, the only real problem with advertising clauses is that RMS doesn't tolerate them.
hint to modders, this comment: "-1 True".
Pretty funny, IMHO. All of your GNU comments make it to +5 in a few minutes, so when you post some rant about Linux being GNU/Linux, the merits of GNU, how RMS is sacred and should be worshipped, how proprietary software is evil, How BSD developers/users should like a license that they can't even use code from, how only L33zrs call Free Software "open source," or other related bs, see how long it takes to get modded up to +5 "Insightful"
Of course, GNU and GNU/Linux users are never zealots. Never. I've never seen Gentoo or Debian zealots before! Never! I guess they don't exist! And you never rant about licenses either. Ever.
GNU, Linux, and GNU/Linux might be nice, but it's advocates are idiots.
hint to modders, this comment: "-1 True".
> own communities, but newbie-zealots tell
> everyone that they are going to be ready Real
> Soon Now.
How is TenDRA "stupid?" Every project has to start somewhere. I'm sure people said the same thing about gcc when it started out. That aside, Tendra is in a relatively mature state AFAIK, though I don't think its portable to many platforms, yet.
> While a small few people occasionally hack
> TenDRA, GCC has 10 or so full time hackers and a
> raft of part time hackers working on improving it.
I'm not saying TenDRA is "ready," but don't belittle it; GCC didn't take 20 years to get useable. If you think its such a "waste of time," then why do you respect any Free Software projects? Guess its just not worth your time, huh?
OTOH, I don't follow GNU, but I don't see GNU/HURD as being a stupid project either. It has some fairly innovative ideas and could make a great operating system in its own right.
> I think Hurd is a less-stupid project than TenDRA,
However, as far as "actual use" goes, I think TenDRA will make it there faster than HURD would. A compiler is much less work than an entire operating system...
In all honesty, I'm sick and tired of hearing trolls bash interesting niche projects just because they aren't the "latest big thing."
--Tim
How is this decision by the French government secular? How someones choice to wear religious clothing "forced on you?" Missionaries are "forced on you," not clothing.
More importantly, what about religious minorities in a region? Maybe this clothing gives them a sense of identity that they believe they are losing by being part of that soceity.
This doesn't sound like separation of the church and state to me, it sounds like secular humanism. Er... that's athiesm isn't it daddy?
I more or less disagree with western religions, but it seems to me that the French government is making a terrible PC mistake here...
--Tim
> What is it that separates foobar from Winamp? It *doesn't* have an annoying per-application skin like winamp does. I prefer skins like windowblinds, gtk themes, (or qt themes, you get the idea) so that way all my programs match. Not to be a HIG Nazi, but application consistency is important to me. This, more than anything else makes Foobar the first, and only media player I like for windows.
Sounds neat, but I wouldn't use it for much beyond a toy
--Tim
> directory is not all that different from
> the versions in other BSDs.
Interesting; I'll definitely have to take a look at the Darwin code then. I was aware that it wasn't a full-blown microkernel as GNU/Hurd is, but I didn't realize that it actually used BSD code at the kernel level.
> See the "Merge of Darwin msdosfs, other fixes"
> item in the FreeBSD 5.2 Open Issues list.
I have to admit that I wasn't aware of this either; Now, I'm looking forward to seeing those enhancements go into 5.2-RELEASE. :)
--Tim
> to GCC and not FreeBSD itself?
> BECAUSE GCC IS GPL!
Wrong, wrong. The reason why not much is given back (if thats even the situation) would be due to the fact that the OSes are completely different in design. A monolithic kernel as opposed to a microkernel... c'mon, these are totally different. Code sharing between the two would be impractical. That aside, I don't think Apple's done a great deal of work in SMP, which is where FreeBSD seems to want to go right now. In all honesty, I don't think FreeBSD has much interest in Mac OS X code unless its aqua or quartz.
That aside, Apple *has* contributed HFS+ to FreeBSD, (now I'm not claiming that this is an earth shaking contribution, but hey it is something) which is about as many contributions that SGI or some of those Linux companies contributed to Linux, anyway.
It seems to me like companies interested in Free Software *nix Oses seem to donate filesystems, and not much else... Of course maybe that's just my impression...
On a userland level, FreeBSD is pretty much complete. Thats where Apple would be contributing, and why would they fix something that isn't broken?
If Apple contributed code, I don't think the license would be an issue, since they could just relicense the contributed code (without affecting their license).
--Tim
--Tim
Looks like a go board to me. Cool. Love the game. --Tim
While Harold Hunt's intent and concerns were valid, he was unable to convey his concerns in a respectable manner. OTOH, David Dawes didn't seem very respectable, either.
This sort of event was a petty argument, and should be acknowleged as nothing more... I can't believe this was slashdotted...
--Tim
> change bash to tcsh.
Same here.
> And today, I'm left contemplating whether I should
> change my default shell in Linux to tcsh.
Go for it. When I was using Slackware Linux, I used tcsh as my default shell, (I can't stand bash personally) and I never had any problems of that nature. From what I understand the bourne-dependent scripts that would take issue with this would default to bourne or bash anyway.... Defaulting root to tcsh might cause issues though, haven't tried that.
Gotta love tcsh! ;)
--Tim
I personally use tcsh, but I write my scripts for bourne. The bash scripting argument is weak if you ask me, simply because it isn't as portable as sh, and its extensions offer very little (if anything) beyond bourne for scripting. Whenever I run into a "bash script" I port it to bourne... immediately.
This seems more like a popularity move than anything else the way I see it...
--Tim
My view on it is this: Safety is important, but with all great things in life, there is risk involved. Space travel is by no means an exception to this rule.
If NASA isn't willing to take risks, then who is?
If someone doesn't do something *no progress* is going to be made. Well, at least China and Japan are putting some effort in to their space programs...
--Tim
I've used Wine for many obscure applications, including: Nero, PowerDesk, LC2 Assembler/Simulator, and ePSXe. All applications worked with varying degrees of glitches, but I think if I extracted the registry entries from windows natively, most of those issues would not be present.
I'm not certain if Crossover Office this has any direct relation to the regular Wine codebase, but to me it sounds like a "Wine plus support" release.
Documentation is another story. Frank's Wine Corner is a good start though. Among other things, he documents how to get Office 2000 and Baldur's Gate working. Also, I found a howto for Photoshop, which I've heard works quite well. When I get around to it, I would like to start a similar howto site with full registry tweak details.
--Tim
I think internet radio is the future of music, and this *could* come in the form of p2p, but don't count on it... p2p is not the end-all of music.
C'mon people, at least radio hasn't become a mass-media wasteland yet... (at least not to the degree that music videos already have) Give it some credit guys.
Of course, I would have to say that the GPL is better harmony with communism, given its "share!! share!!!" approach. --Tim
> SNES (in the U.S. It seems to have been
> something like IV in Japan.)
Final Fantasy I US was I in Japan
Final Fantasy II JP never had a US release
Final Fantasy III JP never had a US release
Final Fantasy II US was IV in Japan
Final Fantasy V was released only in Japan (well and PSX)
Final Fantasy III US was VI in Japan
> (with a GNU/Linux release since I don't have
> Windows or MacOS)
I call it zsnes. supports frameskipping and save states, enhanced graphic engine etc....
There are PS1 remakes, as well.
--Tim
-Tim