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Linux in Movies?

chicagoan asks: "Last weekend I, like many other people across the US, saw Scary Movie 3. During the movie an actress gets on the web to help her in her quest. Looking closer I noticed that the Desktop environment she was using was GNOME and the Web Browser was Mozilla's Firebird. Where have you spotted actor's using Linux in movies or on TV shows?"

210 comments

  1. Matrix by buttahead · · Score: 2, Informative

    i thought they were using linux in the matrix on screen... matrix 1 that is.

    1. Re:Matrix by PD · · Score: 2, Informative

      Why yes, it was Linux. If, by Linux, you mean nmap.

    2. Re:Matrix by RzUpAnmsCwrds · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yes, it was nmap, if by "Matrix 1" he meant "Matrix 2".

    3. Re:Matrix by Paul+d'Aoust · · Score: 1

      problem is, all we saw was a few console programs, and that coulda been Solaris or IRIX, for all we know... not that a techno-savvy geek with not enough money for a decent apartment would have anything but Linux or BSD on their computers... so I suppose it would be fair to assume it was a free beer OS ^_^

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    4. Re:Matrix by __aafkqj3628 · · Score: 1

      And nmap runs about a billion other platforms too (you never know, trinity might just like windows enough to use cygwin ;) ).

    5. Re:Matrix by BrokenHalo · · Score: 2, Interesting
      i thought they were using linux in the matrix on screen... matrix 1 that is.

      Yes, but I seem to remember Neo was using a Microsoft Natural keyboard :-)

      OK, big deal. So am I, and my machines haven't run Windows for 6 years.

    6. Re:Matrix by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      Of course, a geek without cash COULD get Winders off of KaZaA...

      BTW, she could have been using NMap on either Windows or Cygwin on Windows, with the console set to green. Personally, I think that it was probably a LEGALLY free (either variety) *nix.

    7. Re:Matrix by Random832 · · Score: 1

      if it was outside the matrix, wouldn't just about any 1970s-2003 era unix be legally free by 2199? however, if i remember correctly, it was a console in the room they walked into - i.e. it wasn't _on_ a computer belonging to the rebels (need a better term for them) at all in the first place...

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    8. Re:Matrix by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      DUDE! This isn't the Matrix. I'm saying what could have been used on the set (yes, it's a set, not reality). From what I've heard, though (need to rent the DVD), it would have been the Matrix SIDE of the power plant - therefore, the agents would have had to conform to SCO, MS, and other companies (how much would they interfere with the Matrix to get the front end safe from MS? - I mean, they're trying to match civilization in 1999).

    9. Re:Matrix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Matrix Reloaded, Trinity roots a (possibly) linux box, when she was doing that stuff in the power plant . . . or something? It was where the gang has to get back to the real world, trough some door.

    10. Re:Matrix by Myridon · · Score: 2, Informative

      The computer screens in The Matrix on the Nebuchadnezzar are not running Linux but proprietary hardware running proprietary firmware/software - AMX touch panels I worked for AMX at the time but was not involved with the movie.

    11. Re:Matrix by Aeonsfx · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I don't know about what the OS was, but I'm pretty sure that from seeing the terminal prompt that it was the csh or tcsh. ;)

      --Tim

    12. Re:Matrix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      trinity types "ls" to get a file listing in the energy plant console, in "reloaded" :D

    13. Re:Matrix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Me too.. The MS Natural Keyboard Pro is probably the best thing Microsoft has ever produced. I gladly use it with Linux :)

      Too bad they discontinued that model, and every natural keyboard since then has had something wrong with it and/or been utter crap. What do you expect, can't expect Microsoft to consistently produce good products.

    14. Re:Matrix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same here, when I got my computer, I formatted Windows and installed Linux - Day one, I didn't even care what windows apps it had and I'm using an MS natural keyboard, well because I had it for free :) otherwise I wouldn't have minded the other one too much.

    15. Re:Matrix by Simonetta · · Score: 1

      Nothing in a Hollywood movie happens by accident or coincidence.

      The art director probably approached Microsoft with an offer to do a product placement for only $x thousand dollars. Microsoft probably then told her that if any Windows product appeared in the finished film then they wanted ten $x thousand dollars, or else.

      Furious, the art director mentioned it to her assistant who happened at the time to be fucking the liason to CGI effects company....who suggested using Linux instead.

    16. Re:Matrix by ForestGrump · · Score: 1

      You sure it wasn't some crap they just made up?
      I remember seeing crosses between doze and Macintrash and the likes in movies before.
      Office space kinda comes to mind.

      They create something that resembles, but isn't so they don't have legal issues with IP.

      -Grump

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  2. Antitrust by aspjunkie · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I think Antitrust was one of the first 'hollywood movies' that I saw that had some form of Linux on some of the workstaions.

    Claire Forlanni, and Rachel Leigh Cook..

    What a great movie.

    Poor Teddy.. he just wanted to Open Source his code...is that such a crime!?!

    1. Re:Antitrust by __aafkqj3628 · · Score: 1

      Yes, but notice how the evil and oppressive (let's say MS-like) company was using Linux (and you can't prove that it was linux and not some other OS).

    2. Re:Antitrust by bain · · Score: 1

      Actually not ..

      most people remember hackers the movie with Miss Jolie, well if you look very closely at some of the "hacking" screens you can see the terminal is unix based, not indicative of linux per say, but at least it's not windows ;P

      I also many years ago planned to start a website dedicated to finding technical things in movies, like what OS was used for visual etc etc not limited to computers but anything technical. unfortunately life happened.

      bain

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    3. Re:Antitrust by kurosawdust · · Score: 4, Funny
      What a great movie.

      Thanks - I never weeped for my generation before 10am prior to reading that. Congrats.

    4. Re:Antitrust by bhtooefr · · Score: 2, Funny

      Errm, a full-screen telnet to SDF would take care of that REALLY quick in Winders. So would a fullscreen Cygwin-bash session.

      Also, what are you doing posting to /. if you have a life? You should know (having a sub-2000 UID) that none of us have lives by now!

    5. Re:Antitrust by vsync64 · · Score: 2, Funny
      weeped

      And thank you: I hadn't wept for mine until reading that.

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    6. Re:Antitrust by GeorgeH · · Score: 1

      Don't forget that Miguel de Icaza of GNOME fame has a cameo...

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    7. Re:Antitrust by (trb001) · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Hey, compared to Hackers, Swordfish and Sneakers, it was conceivable. That, to me, made it a pretty decent movie.

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    8. Re:Antitrust by Random832 · · Score: 1

      the former would be "using unix", with the windows system turned into little more than a VT102

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    9. Re:Antitrust by EnigmaticSource · · Score: 1
      You forgot Wargames... I Loved that movie... almost as good as `Heavy Metal'
      [Both of which were insipring for me]
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    10. Re:Antitrust by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      Actually, think XTerm - I use PuTTY. It does EVERYTHING an XTerm does, except it's for Windows. Of course, the UI has caused people to port it to Linux...

      Then again, you DO have a point. But, the point I was trying to make was that if they used Telnet/SSH apps on Windows, they'd still have a Windows license.

    11. Re:Antitrust by N1KO · · Score: 1

      From the xterm man page...

      The xterm program is a terminal emulator for the X Window System. It provides DEC VT102/VT220 (VTxxx) and Tektronix 4014 compatible terminals for programs that cannot use the window system directly.

    12. Re:Antitrust by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      Except they don't mention that the XTerm can also handle mouse input. Try telnetting to sdf.lonestar.org, getting your account activated, and play with Links (2.1). BTW, Links 2.x can handle graphics (yes, they went from 0.99 to 2.0).

    13. Re:Antitrust by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WTF? The plot of the movie is that Bill Gates is killing open source developers. This is conceivable to you?!?! I know Slashdotters aren't exactly in love with Bill Gates, but my God man, snap back into reality.

    14. Re:Antitrust by inquisitor · · Score: 1

      I think that movie did a lot of harm to the Open Source movement, actually.

      In case you're not familiar with the film (and let's face it, it was a major league disaster so not many people are), the main plotline is this: Ryan Phillipe is poached by a large multinational corporation run by a Bill Gates figure from some "open source" development team run out of a garage, taking his wife up to Oregon. In the mean time, Ryan Phillipe's old "open source" buddy gets killed by some security guys with baseball bats, and Ryan starts to suspect his company might be responsible.

      Even taking into account the somewhat unlikely idea that Bill Gates would have people killed just because they were in the same area as he was, or that Bill Gates figure was actually watching them through hidden fibreoptic security systems, or that Bill Gates figure would even be interested in doing away with such a loser as Ryan Phillipe, the movie still stinks both actually and technically. The McGuffin is a program called "Synapse", which apparently links every electronic device in the world together using "back doors placed in company's OS software for the last four years" - strange, since the company is using GNOME on Linux (admittedly a version of GNOME on Linux with a unified look and a working, integrated CD burner). And the whole Synapse stuff is, in any case, 100% impossible technically; was in 1999, still is now.

      Oh, and you want to know the best part? It's written in Java.

      Yes, that's right, this movie had big involvement from the GNOME Foundation - but an even bigger involvement from Sun Microsystems. Scott ("you have no privacy, get over it") McNealy even shows up in the movie, giving a prize to Ryan Phillipe's open source mate. The movie seems suspiciously designed to be a propaganda blast from Sun, aimed at pushing open source into the mainstream. As such, it is the open source version of "Mac And Me" or "The Wizard".

      It's not even that good at that; the whole incessant preaching about how open source saves the day gets cloying and nasty and sore. Quite frankly, I think people would get turned off of open source by this movie. Bad propaganda is worse than no propaganda at all, always.

      I'd rather watch "The Net" - for the fact it's vaguely technically competent for the first half of the movie (and then goes way OTT), and is OK as a thriller. Hell, I'd even rather watch "Hackers" (for the probably-intentional, probably-not humour) than this, and that's saying something.

    15. Re:Antitrust by che.kai-jei · · Score: 1

      i think hackers was really a movie about teens and youth culture really .. not computers.. the tech fetish thing was a motif a gimmick and something to give it a plot. swordfish i wont comment on. but sneakers wasa good movie... even though it was tosh. structurally and cinematically all three movies had merit of some sort. but computer people moan about computing issues in movies like movies have to be important documentaries on the subject or weird infoomercials.. though with the amount of product placement in film these days one could be forgiven for thinking this. you dont hear theoretical physicists moaning about the back to the future series or geneticists moaning about jurassic park. i think we should complain of the consistently bad quality of movie from hollywood that insults everybody's intelligence or the cod philosiphizing in the matrix and reveal it for the shoddyness it is. if computing types want the IT equivalent of grisham or something then fine.. that is what books are for and i am sure they are out there. ps did anyone ever read neuromancer and go "puhlease! jacks into your head!?" or the matrix and scoff at that?

  3. You're not going to like this reference by NanoGator · · Score: 4, Funny

    I spotted one. I was watching a commercial for Earthlink. It featured two dudes trying outbid each other on Ebay on an item with only 30 seconds left. The guy with Earthlink won because his connection was faster. The guy who lost, his page was still loading. If you look carefully, he's running KDE as his desktop. I found that quite amusing. ;)

    (Note: I couldn't tell you what OS the 'winner' was using.)

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    1. Re:You're not going to like this reference by rmohr02 · · Score: 1
      You're not going to like this reference
      ...unless you're a GNOME user.
    2. Re:You're not going to like this reference by /dev/trash · · Score: 1

      I just saw that commercial, and I find that Earthlink claiming that they can speed up pages so that you don't lose an auction is ridiculous.

    3. Re:You're not going to like this reference by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "I just saw that commercial, and I find that Earthlink claiming that they can speed up pages so that you don't lose an auction is ridiculous."

      In the "It happens all the time" sense, you're right, it's totally stupid. In the "it could potentially play out that way, and you could run into problems sort of like that" sense then it's somewhat plausible. When it gets to dealing with near real-time interaction (such as getting down to the last 30 seconds of an auction), the broadband guy is going to have a clear advantage.

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    4. Re:You're not going to like this reference by /dev/trash · · Score: 1

      I thought that the way the Earthlink thing worked was by caching sites you visit a lot? Yeah that helps with loading the Ebay logo but how does it make the connection to the db server at Ebay any faster?

      And when the guy that lost refreshed his screen why did all the graphics load again? Those should have been in the local cache.

    5. Re:You're not going to like this reference by FreeLinux · · Score: 1

      You might think so but, your thinking is incorrect. Earthlink now offers an add-on service that accelerates dial-up performance considerably. It works by using caching and compression. People who subscribe to the service for $5.00 per month above the regular dial-up costs, install a small application on their desktop that handles redirecting requests to the cache and also handles the decompression from the cache. On average, there is a significant performance increase.

      Personally, it annoys me that someone can sell this as a service for $5.00 a month. Most browsers can already handle compression from the web server but, most web sites still don't turn it on.

    6. Re:You're not going to like this reference by sircle_72 · · Score: 1

      I used to work for EarthLink, in their sales division. When I was part of the staff (as a lowly temp, mind you - the same way they start *ALL* of their staff) their commercials were centered around more truths pertaining to their qualities that America On-Hold didn't offer, rather than this marketing-induced drivel they seem to enjoy using now. It's pretty typical of them, now that they've move out of Pasadena, Ca. and into their new offices in Atlanta. *Sigh*... oh well... I guess you can't expect a company founded by a $cientologist to stay virtuous forever...
      Grr.

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  4. GUI proof? by __aafkqj3628 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Can we really accept a GNOME/KDE/whatever GUI as proof that they are running Linux?
    AFAIK, the movies which people are claiming to be featuring Linux don't show off any proof (a uname would be helpful) that it's actually Linux, and now *BSD, IRIX, Solaris or even UNIXWare...

    1. Re:GUI proof? by Robbat2 · · Score: 1

      Given that spoofing uname returns isn't exactly hard, and Fluxbox/GNOME/KDE/etc. can be run under Cygwin, you can't really prove anything about platforms easily.

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    2. Re:GUI proof? by vrai · · Score: 1
      Very good point. I run an Ultra 5 with Blackbox and a few of the KDE apps (all hail the mighty KMail). Apart from the fact that there's a type 5 keyboard in front of the monitor it looks identical to the setup running on my SuSE laptop. Such is the wonder of X and open-source window managers I suppose, no matter what Unix like OS you're using you can have your favourite WM and apps.

      That said, KDE is most easily setup on a i386/Linux box (Solaris now ships with GNOME), so it's likely that the props/set-design team would go with Linux over other OSs.

    3. Re:GUI proof? by LittleDan · · Score: 1

      Well, if they're not using Windows or Mac, it's for the price. So they'd need a free one. That leaves *BSD and Linux. Linux much easier to set up for non-techies, it comes preloaded on some machines, and it is infinitely more prevalent in the private sector. Although they *could* be using Cygwin and GNOME/KDE/something else, why wouldn't they just use IE and the regular GUI?

    4. Re:GUI proof? by __aafkqj3628 · · Score: 1

      why wouldn't they just use IE and the regular GUI?

      For the same reason they seem to sometimes invent their own OS?

    5. Re:GUI proof? by Mr+Z · · Score: 1

      I personally like the Mac/Win/Unix OS Peter's using in Office Space. Mac dialog boxes, UNIX desktop games, and a C:> prompt. (I don't remember if it showed a slash, and if so, which way it faced.)

  5. Re:Wow by Gakster2001 · · Score: 1

    I don't think so, why not ask this question, I'm bored and I don't mind reading things like this, chill out.

  6. Chappelle's Show by JAYOYAYOYAYO · · Score: 4, Funny

    Its a skit based show on comedy central.. one of the skits was a spoof of a company policy video shown to employees at a copy store (think kinkos) "if a customer brings in a windows disk, tell them we only use macintosh. if they bring in a mac disk, tell them we only use windows... if they bring in a linux disk, tell them the computers are down."

    1. Re:Chappelle's Show by Random832 · · Score: 1

      the problem with that "policy" is there hasn't been an OS since macintosh system 7 that doesn't support FAT12 on floppies... and suppose the customer is cagey enough to bring in both disks, whipping out the mac one when they say they only use macintosh

      or am i taking this too seriously?

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    2. Re:Chappelle's Show by Rysc · · Score: 2, Informative

      The actual quote was more like: "If they bring in a Windows disk, say we only support Macintosh. If they bring in a Mac disk, tell them we only support Windows. If they bring in both, tell them we only supportLinux. If they've got that, tell them the computers are down."

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    3. Re:Chappelle's Show by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Linux computers were down! sure!

    4. Re:Chappelle's Show by mekkab · · Score: 1

      dewd, it was a funny spoof on the lengths jerks (I mean, those in service industries) will go to not do some work for you. Kinda like how procrastinators work really hard at not working.

      That was such a funny vignette,I'm laughing just thinking about it.

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    5. Re:Chappelle's Show by Yottabyte84 · · Score: 1

      and linux is able to read bothe FAT _AND_ HFS formatted disks, hehe.

    6. Re:Chappelle's Show by thunderbird46 · · Score: 1
      A Mac with the PC Exchange extension* can read FAT disks too. Last summer I was dinking around with my old Power Mac 8100/80 and thought I'd try to read some of my old DOS format floppies on it. It worked just fine. IIRC the extension's even installed with the OS by default.

      *I think that's the one, anyway... been a while since I played with the classic Mac OS...

    7. Re:Chappelle's Show by incom · · Score: 1

      Chappelle's Show is awesome. The next best thing to a sequel for half baked.

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    8. Re:Chappelle's Show by Yottabyte84 · · Score: 1

      Yup, it works by default. Windows, however, does not read HFS, without special software.

    9. Re:Chappelle's Show by LittleDan · · Score: 1

      I don't think you understand. The computers, if talking to a linux person, run Windows or something like that.

    10. Re:Chappelle's Show by cangeceiro · · Score: 1

      you are taking it to seriously

  7. Julia Roberts by m0rph3us0 · · Score: 1

    I saw a lame computer movie with Julia Roberts that had the blue steel theme from Enlightenment running on it.

    1. Re:Julia Roberts by cdrudge · · Score: 1

      The Net?

    2. Re:Julia Roberts by smegball · · Score: 0

      Julia Roberts is not in The Net, Sandra Bullock is.

  8. Reason? by twistedcubic · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I guess the tech consultants they hire probably do this for the coolness factor, but maybe they don't display MS Windows because all the other companies pay them millions for product placement. So why advertise MS Windows for free?

    1. Re:Reason? by Bishop923 · · Score: 1

      I would think that using some sort of Non-MS based PC would make perfect economical sense when shooting a film. It really isn't hard to get the point across that a character is using an web-browser, why bother spending $199 for a license to run Windows, when the same thing can be accomplished on any semi-recent stock Linux distro with used hardware?

      Not to mention that you get the added bonus of being able to customize the appearance of the GUI to suit the needs of the movie.

      I could just see a fairly serious scene be ruined by XP's Fischer-Price GUI...

    2. Re:Reason? by passthecrackpipe · · Score: 1

      To start off with, almost every PC bought would have had the Microsoft Tax slapped on it already, so the "economical sense" does not make much sense. Secondly, $199 is chump change for most movies you and I will get to see on telly or at the movies, so $99 doesn't really matter, and thirly, by far the vast majority of "OS" shots are usually powerpoint slides or somesuch (*much* easier to "customise")

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    3. Re:Reason? by sxpert · · Score: 1

      only those branded machines get to pay the windows tax. the ones built by the sweat shop across the street usually don't, unless the customer specifies (and pays) for it. too many sweatshops have been closed down by giving a pirated version of windows for free with the box, that was supposedly installed for testing.

      Hell, the one across my street tests with a knoppix cd and gives that for free with the box ;)))

    4. Re:Reason? by dpilot · · Score: 1

      And perhaps here you've hit the reason to use Linux.

      No doubt every film has some geek somewhere who is responsible for setting up computer shots. It's easier to customize a Linux screen, perhaps easier than using a powerpoint slide, especially when it comes to having the screen do something. Then with powerpoint there's the extra work of fitting it back into the movie.

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    5. Re:Reason? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually I'm guessing the real reason is that the makers of the movie do not feel they have to clear rights for Linux. Arguably, the same rules that prevent just throwing a sculpture on the set of your film (see "A Recent Example") would prevent doing so with the output of computer software. If that's the case, then it's possible that these movie-makers have become "pirates" by deriving their own works from GPLed software without honoring the terms of the GPL. :)

    6. Re:Reason? by Rysc · · Score: 1

      Easy fix: Throw up a URL at the end of the credits which points to a tarball on the movie's website of all GPL software you see during the movie.

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    7. Re:Reason? by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      I could just see a fairly serious scene be ruined by XP's Fischer-Price GUI...

      "Quality" shows such as ER and Navy:NCIS both use XP on their sets - look at the monkeypox-like outbreak episode of ER, or ANY episode of NCIS.

    8. Re:Reason? by merlin_jim · · Score: 1

      So why advertise MS Windows for free?

      That was the reason we did it... A coworker of mine spent a good two weeks cleaning all the logos and identifiable stuff out of a windows install and replacing them with custom graphics for a move once... we used that N-word browser (not netscape... forgot the name) that's completely skinnable to do most of it...

      The movie, FYI was Above Suspicion... here's a link to amazon's page for it... http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000 05UQD4/ref=ase_ralphkudlinski/103-4402635-9999832? v=glance&s=video

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    9. Re:Reason? by eurleif · · Score: 1
      we used that N-word browser (not netscape... forgot the name)
      Neoplanet?
    10. Re:Reason? by merlin_jim · · Score: 1

      Yes it was neoplanet that we used.

      It was a fun little project too. Making Windows not look like Windows, that is... :)

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  9. jurassic park by undef24 · · Score: 2, Informative

    The only thing I can think of thats close is IRIX in jurassic park. Something like: "This is a Unix System .. I Know This!"

    1. Re:jurassic park by geggibus · · Score: 1
    2. Re:jurassic park by blugu64 · · Score: 1

      Actually the most notiable part of that movie was that the computers used were Macintosh Quadra 700's. Running gasp! System 7! I kinda like the part were the "live" security camera's were played in MoviePlayer (ancestor to QuickTime Player) and you could see the little time bar move along the bottom of the window. (Any unbelievers see MacWorld issue Dec 96 or 97)

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    3. Re:jurassic park by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 1

      Better is Wayne's World 2, at the end where Garth meets the geek girl: "Is that a Unix book?" "Yeah." "Cool." (The book is the classic Steven's "Unix Network Programming".)

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  10. Well, its supposed by floydman · · Score: 1

    to be a scary movie isnt it.....

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    1. Re:Well, its supposed by KingRamsis · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      this Ask Slashdot is so lame...
      dont u have some segfaults to fix ?

  11. By the way by twistedcubic · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Was the movie any good?

  12. Well more non windows... by rf0 · · Score: 1

    There was the SSHnuke from Matrix: Reloaded. Also in Jurrasic park the scene where the girl goes. "I know this. Its UNIX". Even though she had a 3d graphical file browser that SGI had written.

    Rus

    1. Re:Well more non windows... by dextr0us · · Score: 1

      ok, since sshnuke doesn't exist... nmap does however.

      teh 1337 h4x0r

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    2. Re:Well more non windows... by Paul+Jakma · · Score: 1

      IRIX is Unix(TM), so she was right.

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    3. Re:Well more non windows... by spitefulcrow · · Score: 1

      I think that was a matter of someone getting mixed up with names. Trinity used nmap to find a running OpenSSH daemon on the machine she wanted in to, ran an exploit (not sure which one) to change the root password, and logged on.

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  13. that's nothing... by standsolid · · Score: 2, Funny

    You all talk about a hacker nuking ssh and some lady browsing the web with FireBird. That's all small 'taters. If you really want to see Linux in a movie check this out. Oh yes.

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    1. Re:that's nothing... by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      How 'bout a major movie that has or had wide release (that is, wider than just being shown at LUG meetings)?

    2. Re:that's nothing... by fbsderr0r · · Score: 1

      70 mins of RMS noooooo!!!!!

  14. Mexcian movie, Nicotina, used KDE by Adrian+De+Leon · · Score: 3, Informative

    I went to saw Nicotina a few weeks ago, and every computer on screen was running KDE.

    They even zoom in on a Russian guy working on his laptop and we discover that he is actually playing the KDE version of Tetris :-)

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  15. ABC's Alias (TV Show) by antdude · · Score: 2, Informative

    See my newsgroup thread on KDE. There's even Ping Pong game (xMame?). Sunday night's showed Marshall using a compiler! :)

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    1. Re:ABC's Alias (TV Show) by riggwelter · · Score: 1

      Also on Alias, I saw a photo being "enhanced" using the GIMP 1.2.x running under WindowMaker (IIRC).

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    2. Re:ABC's Alias (TV Show) by Feztaa · · Score: 1

      Sunday night's showed Marshall using a compiler! :)

      Yeah, that was funny. He was trying to de-fang some amazing AI virus that was about to take over the world, the only shots of the screen that we got to see showed us a standard configure script and a Makefile. :)

    3. Re:ABC's Alias (TV Show) by neglige · · Score: 1

      In one of the shows, Sydney had to break into a german installation and hack into their security system. The screen language was german, but they misspelled the text... which is a minor mistake, given that they had the right intention :)

      Or maybe they did it on purpose... you never know.

      And yes, I'm aware that I probably messed up the grammar in this post really bad (not to mention spelling mistakes - even though I used the preview button; twice).

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  16. I like playing... by Hadlock · · Score: 1

    I like playing "Find my laptop", ala the Powerbook G4/Tibook. It's amazing, the nubmer of apples you see on TV and in movies. Most people suggest that they use apples, as they're what they already have laying around, as apples tend to be used alot in the entertainment buisness, plus they look pretty on screen compared to a beige box. I'd agree with that.

    I heard someone suggest that most of the "OS"es in movies are simply flash programs that are full screen, and will do the correct sequence of events, regardless of the input. Can anyone verify this?

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    1. Re:I like playing... by isaac · · Score: 1
      I heard someone suggest that most of the "OS"es in movies are simply flash programs that are full screen, and will do the correct sequence of events, regardless of the input. Can anyone verify this?

      Macromedia Director, actually. I guess they might have moved to Flash these days, but yeah, computers in big-budget movies are just playing these scripts.

      The computer in this movie was probably running windows and displaying a director or flash movie of GNOME.

      -Isaac

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    2. Re:I like playing... by Permission+Denied · · Score: 1
      Most people suggest that they use apples, as they're what they already have laying around

      Not necessarily. Apple computers are the only machines distinctive enough to benefit from product placement. If you put a Dell laptop in a film, how are people going to tell at a distance that it's a Dell and not a Toshiba or Compaq? Whenever you can recognize a product in a film, it's often a paid advertisement.

      As for OSes, I think the film makers just want to make an impression, so they show something glitzy and unfamiliar. They don't want people distracted by the OS, thinking "hey that looks like my machine at home" or "what a loser, he's still using MSIE 4.x" instead of thinking about the plot and perhaps thinking "that guy is so 'leet, he doesn't even use Windows/MacOS." These could very well be flash programs.

    3. Re:I like playing... by cloak42 · · Score: 1

      I heard someone suggest that most of the "OS"es in movies are simply flash programs that are full screen, and will do the correct sequence of events, regardless of the input. Can anyone verify this?

      I remember reading that in American Pie they did this with the whole webcam thing when they were watching Shannon Elizabeth take her clothes off. :) The operating system they were running was actually Linux made to look like Mac OS 8/9, and they created a program that would take input from the keyboard and mouse and, no matter what was done, would make it do a set sequence of events.

    4. Re:I like playing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about in the recent version of Itallian Job where Seth Green's character is using a (freaking huge) dell laptop with a big dell symbol easily (and repeatedly) seen? Nah, that couldn't be product placement.

    5. Re:I like playing... by annihilizard · · Score: 0

      well, when you consider that Dell, compaq and most x86 laptops come from Seger and are just branded by whomever sells them, it makes sense that they're not distintive.

    6. Re:I like playing... by Jellybob · · Score: 1

      You possibly chose the worst example there, since Dells *are* distinctive, they tend to have metallic style cases with a huge Dell logo embossed on them.

      Someone already mentioned Italian job, where a Dell keeps getting whipped out, theres also Swordfish, where they break into the bank, and show a rack full of Dell servers, which are also distinctive things - once again because of the metallic badge.

    7. Re:I like playing... by inquisitor · · Score: 1

      Dell kit is pretty easily spotted, really (it's all black and silver now), so it's getting product placement at about the same rate as Apple now. As a recent example, "Terminator 3" has an absolutely gigantic level of Dell product placement.

    8. Re:I like playing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hmm..i never noticed any dell kit in the movie..the only computer i noticed was the gignatic tape drive style mainframe sitting at the end.
      apple's tend to be distinctive..all the rest look like generic beige boxes.

  17. Antritrust by a.koepke · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Can't believe no-one has mentioned Antitrust yet... one of the greatest computer & programming movies around.

    Linux is used by Milo quite often in this movie

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    1. Re:Antritrust by Soothh · · Score: 1

      Uhhhhh, if you actually read the other posts, it was mentioned a few times. But thanks for playing

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  18. In anime... by Crayon+Kid · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...they feature all kinds of operating systems every now and then. Well, maybe not what you'd expect... :) They either go all to way to fantasy land and make up something like they did in Lain (which in turn inspired a real life OS interface -- LainOS), or they humorously mimick real life OS -- think "Windaws XXXP" (seen on "Happy Lesson Advance") or "Red Hot Linux" (seen on "Chobits").

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  19. Not a TV show but a computer game by unixbob · · Score: 1

    When Sam Fisher is watching the web broadcast on his PC, he's using GNOME as his desktop.

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  20. Swordfish by Maskirovka · · Score: 1

    If I was a gambling man, I'd put money that the 7-head terminal in Swordfish was running linux or *bsd. Can windows even handle seven indpendant video outputs at once? Also, the dell laptop ui stan uses in the club looked very much like bash if memory serves.

    1. Re:Swordfish by MrHanky · · Score: 1
      If I was a gambling man, I'd put money that the 7-head terminal in Swordfish was running linux or *bsd.

      You mean the 7 head terminal with all the SGI logos? Pity you're not a gambling man. (Not that SGI doesn't use Linux, but most of their real, MIPS-based, computers still run Irix.)
    2. Re:Swordfish by MrHanky · · Score: 1

      Sorry - I fucked up the link to the SGI logo.

    3. Re:Swordfish by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      From the DigitalRoom Multi Monitor Guide (for 98/2K/XP):

      * Each monitor must have its own video card (i.e. 3 monitors would require 3 video cards). The exception being if you have special multi-monitor video cards.

      * Anywhere from 2 - 9 monitors are supported.

      http://www.digitalroom.net/techpub/multimon.html

    4. Re:Swordfish by i_am_pi · · Score: 1

      2 - 9 monitors, they say?

      I almost got Windows to work with my ONE monitor and card :)

    5. Re:Swordfish by Lester67 · · Score: 1

      >> Can windows even handle seven indpendant video outputs at once?

      Yes.

    6. Re:Swordfish by kidgenius · · Score: 1

      Actually, in Swordfish, IIRC, one of the hacker's from the beginning of the movie was named "Linus Torvalds." It was hard to make out the name, but that's exactly what it sounded like.

  21. Not a Movie but... by jesse.k · · Score: 1

    In the video game Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty, Solid Snake uses a computer to upload photos and when he turns it on it's a verbose linux boot.

    Even says "linux" several times, which isn't surprising since it was developed for the PS2 originally. I wonder if it was kept for the XBOX version?

    1. Re:Not a Movie but... by jafuser · · Score: 1

      In the "Not quite a movie" thread...

      I still like this Linux appearance =)

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  22. Disclosure by mikeswi · · Score: 1

    With Demi Moore (mmmmmmmm) and Michael Douglas. If you look at the scene where she logs in and starts nuking files, she's clearly at a *nix command prompt.

    1. Re:Disclosure by Nick+of+NSTime · · Score: 1

      It was a UNIX command...those were SGIs.

    2. Re:Disclosure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you look REALLY closely, you'll notice that Disclosure was a really shitty movie.

      HTH.

  23. It might be that.. by freaksta · · Score: 0

    People dont want to pay a Windows License just to show a computer in a 5 second clip.. Linux on the other hand, as we all know, is free!

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    1. Re:It might be that.. by temojen · · Score: 1

      Hmm...
      Or they could just walk into any office and pick up an computer off the desk with windows already installed and plunk it down on the set and not have to pay either the license fee or the cost of the computer

      Maybe they might decide to put a particular OS on screen because

      1. The computer they happened to pick up in the office has that particular OS.
      2. Some company (usually Apple or MS, but concieveably SGI, Sun, or even RedHat or SuSE) has paid them for product placement
      3. There is some plot consistancy or believeability reason to have that OS ie the user/s is/are
        1. A graphic Designer or Video Editor
        2. A developer, network admin, security consultant, etc
        3. a n00b/scriptkiddie
      4. it looks cooler

      With computers lying around all over the place, I doubt it has anything to do with licensing costs.

  24. Movies like to show 'fake' desktops... by Spoing · · Score: 4, Informative
    Using something that someone might recognize -- and know is wrong -- distracts from the story. Using an atypical desktop or a slide show that fakes it entirely eliminates this.

    That we recognize it is beside the point.

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  25. Anti-Trust by nege · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The Movie Anti-Trust used Gnome exclusivly throughout the movie. The interfaces that you see that are not the gnome desktop are still running on linux - Miguel de'icaza, credited for have founded the Gnome project, makes a guest appearance in the movie as well, offering some computer science award to Ryan Phillippe.

  26. Sphere the movie, and not just a peek by quantax · · Score: 1

    Sphere had several 'long' sequences in which the main characters manipulated and passed commands to a UNIX shell of some type (possibly bash or csh). Its been a while since I've seen this movie, but they definitely were using Unix, and unlike many movies that show a single glimpse of linux, its on the screen for a decent amount of time.

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    1. Re:Sphere the movie, and not just a peek by corbettw · · Score: 1

      It's even more so in the book, where two characters talk about using BSD.

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  27. Dateline Commercial by iago · · Score: 2, Informative

    The commercial for Dateline advertising the interview with Princess Di's Butler, if you look in the upper right hand corner of the screen, you can see a Linux shutdown sequence.

    It looked like RedHat but it was only shown for a few seconds.

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  28. Itialian Job by Chop · · Score: 1

    I have only seen the movie once, but has anyone figured out what OS Seth Green is using on all those Dell's?

    1. Re:Itialian Job by BenjyD · · Score: 1

      More importantly, what OS was the mainframe they switched the tape reels on (in the *real* Italian Job film) running?

    2. Re:Itialian Job by philbowman · · Score: 1

      Sounds like an excuse to watch my new DVD.. Incidentally I was once told that the way they get Open-Reel Tapes to spin back and forward so picturesquely in movies (they rarely do in normal use) is to run a sort job using the drives as input output and work datasets.

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  29. Of course... by Tom7 · · Score: 1

    Of course there they were also *hacking* a linux box (or maybe it was OpenBSD?) in that movie, so...

  30. Actually ... by MicrowaveJesus · · Score: 1

    Actually, what you see in that scene is real. The computer's running fsn, File System Navigator, which shows files as columns of different heights.

    1. Re:Actually ... by gid · · Score: 1

      Were the Macintosh monitors they used real as well? :)

  31. Windows in Movies ?? by Sparco · · Score: 1

    I do not recall the last time I have seen M$ Windows in a movie or a TV program. In my experience I have seen mostly what looks to be MAC OS or some flavor of *NIX. I have always wondered what prevents windows from being displayed on the tube? Is it a legality issue with M$ or some other reason?

    1. Re:Windows in Movies ?? by Kiaser+Zohsay · · Score: 1

      I noticed in Hannibal that Agent Starling used an iMac, but the mental hospital orderly used NetZero on a windows laptop, and the crooked italian cop used Internet Explorer to log in to the FBI web site.

      That settles it. Bad guys use windows, and good guys don't.

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    2. Re:Windows in Movies ?? by ratfynk · · Score: 1

      The reason why you see coke being drunk in movies is that coke ponies up. My take is that MS just doesn't come across with the cash! They could be all over the silver screen if they decide it will help them. Seeing that they are already in the Media business big time they don't need it. They get you at home, hell they even get you on /. Why should they shell out on movies that might not even be on the screen for longer than 2-3 weeks. MS does not gamble with advert dollars. The movies that are by leading directors and will star name actors have companies pounding at the door with check book in hand, trying to out bid each other. Seems MS does not play this game, yet. If Longhorn turns out to be a consumer flop, you can bet that this will change. Bill will suddenly warm up to the movie media big time.

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    3. Re:Windows in Movies ?? by spitzak · · Score: 1

      That still does not explain it. Plenty of products are put on the screen without compensation from the companies. There is a big stink right now where Catapiller is suing the George of the Jungle sequel for using their machines as tools of evil.

      It would seem to me that a lot of movie makers when told "I need a computer running in this scene" would grab a convienent computer, which has a 90% chance of running Windows, and put it in the scene. Rather than having a graphic designer paint a fake screen or animation and display it. As is often pointed out here, the average member of the public is unaware that there are alternatives to Windows, they consider it a natural artifact needed to make an operational computer, if they think about it as an object at all.

      Yet for some reason it seems Windows is vastly unrepresented in movies, and this is a mystery.

    4. Re:Windows in Movies ?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Well, you're correct when you say:
      It would seem to me that a lot of movie makers when told "I need a computer running in this scene" would grab a convienent computer

      However, you have to remember that Hollywood tends to use macintoshes. It's considered chic, so all the rich folks use'um. Plus, film editors almost always use macs. Hollywood and designers were, for a long time, the great macintosh hold-outs.

      Now Linux is a different story. Sometimes they use Linux/Unix to add authenticity. Another reason is sometimes the computer-prop-guys are geeks (read /. and such). Another reason is that the interface is skinnable, so if the director says, "I want it to look like..." whatever, it's easier.

      Now, one of the reasons you almost never see Windows running in movies is because it's considered boring and uninteresting. In fact, when they use Windows, they'll use Stardock's products (or something similar) to make it look like it's not Windows.

      and that's part of the reason you rarely see Windows in movies. You do see it, it just doesn't look like Windows at the time.

    5. Re:Windows in Movies ?? by ratfynk · · Score: 1

      If they make a movie out of the Cathedral and the Bazaar I would thing it would feature lots of BSOD images. The most truthfull of all the visual cues.

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    6. Re:Windows in Movies ?? by Chuq · · Score: 1
      As is often pointed out here, the average member of the public is unaware that there are alternatives to Windows, they consider it a natural artifact needed to make an operational computer, if they think about it as an object at all.

      Not related to computers in movies, but this reminds me of the time a client had a cordless optical mouse that would NOT work with XP on her laptop, no matter what we did, and when we told her...

      "What rubbish! It HAS to work with Windows XP or else they wouldn't be allowed to sell it!"

      I wanted to tell her where to go.. but you know, customers and all..

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    7. Re:Windows in Movies ?? by raju1kabir · · Score: 1
      The reason why you see coke being drunk in movies is that coke ponies up. My take is that MS just doesn't come across with the cash! They could be all over the silver screen if they decide it will help them. Seeing that they are already in the Media business big time they don't need it.

      Ah, I see. So that explains why Gnome and KDE have appeared in all those films people mentioned (and they definitely appear more than Windows - the most common of all, though, are the hokey fake screens that flash "PASSWORD INVALID" in 96-point flashing red type with a skull and crossbones underneath, just like we all see in our corporate workplaces every day).

      Here I spent all this money on my KDE license thinking it was going to go toward re-furnishing the KDE headquarters building or buying their CEO a yacht, and now I find out from you that they've been blowing it on product placement.

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    8. Re:Windows in Movies ?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      True Lies had an Arabic (I think?) version of Win 3.1 in the scene where Tom Arnold and some cracker were in a van trying to get some files.

    9. Re:Windows in Movies ?? by FlipmodePlaya · · Score: 1

      The movie being fresh in my mind (I was talking about it with someone today, as it was parodied is SM3), the Ring showed Windows. I don't remember it ALL that clearly, but I believe the girl (main character) was surfing the web for information on... something. Anyway, she was using IE, and what looked to be Windows 95 (could have been later, but didn't look to be higher than 2000). I remember this scene in particular because she happened to have opened a web page on her hard drive, not the internet. The adress bar (IE) showed an adress on the C drive... I can't imagine a problem easier to erradicate before shooting...

  32. "The Score" by lawpoop · · Score: 2, Informative

    The geek who was hired by De Niro's character was running linux. In his mom's basement. I remember seeing a penguin, but I don't recall if it was a doll, or a graphic on the screen.

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    1. Re:"The Score" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      he was also playing quake 3, how'dya explain that?

    2. Re:"The Score" by N1KO · · Score: 1

      He bought the linux version of quake3 or bought the windows version and downloaded the binaries or pirated the game and downloaded the linux binaries.

  33. Idependance Day by Vampyre_Dark · · Score: 1

    I don't remember, was it Mac or Linux they he used to hack the aliens? Would be funny if all he did
    was send the ship

    1. Re:Idependance Day by Vampyre_Dark · · Score: 1

      oops, I guess the reply box ate my tags? Like I was saying.... it would be funnier if all he sent to the ship was: (

      (html)
      (form)
      (input type crash)
      (/form)
      (/html)

    2. Re:Idependance Day by DaedalusLogic · · Score: 1

      Mac, they actually had a big sponsorship deal for it. As did several movies in the late 90's in which the heroes used Powerbooks.

    3. Re:Idependance Day by Dr.+Manhattan · · Score: 1

      It was a Powerbook 5300cs. I've got one, but the power connector came off the motherboard inside, and I haven't had time to open it up and solder it back on. I just hope aliens don't invade before the holidays...

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    4. Re:Idependance Day by luekj · · Score: 1
      d00d.

      but he wasn't using any os a t all. it was just 'movie graphics' on the screen with big letters and such.

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  34. Random examples of movie computing by babbage · · Score: 5, Informative
    • Obvious references to Linux/Unix/X11 still seem pretty rare to me. Some movies have featured them prominently, but unless the computer is itself part of the plot, the interface is usually made to melt into the background. Here's some examples I can think of where the *nix interface seems obvious:
      • The movie "Hackers" is a standard one to cite here. The movie is really awful, but I'm willing to give it a pass not because of the silly computer displays, but because it has Penn Jillette in a small role, Hal (which automatically scores points for the 2001 reference). And the reason it's cool that Penn is in there is, well, because it's Penn, and he's really "in" on this silly little subculture. Witness his snarky comments on Richard Stallman, the comedic potential of the Turing Test and Markov chains ("Mark V. Shaney" -- get it?), the math behind public key encryption, and -- most of all -- is chummy with Unix co-designer Rob Pike, and has even pulled pranks on Nobel laureats with him. So, short of putting in someone like Pike, Dennis Ritchie, Ken Thompson, or Linus Torvalds, putting Penn Jillette in a geek role in a movie is pretty much close enough for me.
      • "Jurassic Park" had a famous scene where the girl sits down at a terminal, looks things over, then exclaims "This is Unix! I know Unix!". Silly, but then it was real, sort of: the screen shots were of an experimental 3D file manager from SGI. There was probably an xterm open somewhere offcamera or behind the file manager window so that a technician could enter commands in between the GUI clips that made it into the film.
      • There are other examples of Linux in movies, but unfortunately most of the movies are awful (Antitrust, Swordfish, <troll> The Matrix </troll>, etc).
    • As has been noted all over, Macs show up a lot in movies & tv shows. This probably isn't a coincidence: the machines may look nicer than the typical beige box PC, but the product placement was probably paid for (also see here, at the bottom) in most cases, just as it would be for any other identifiable consumer product in a show. That said, random Mac sightings I can think of include:
      • Carrie's laptop in recent seasons of "Sex and the City" is an old black Powerbook G3 running OS9. Before that she had an older Powerbook. She was given a clamshell iBook as a gift when the G3 crashed, but returned it & fixed the Powerbook.
      • Harry Connick Jr's character had a G4 tower & cinema display on his desk in a recent "Will & Grace". The display wasn't up, so no idea what it was running.
      • In the movie "Zoolander", Apples show up all over the place. The funniest example was probably when Ben Stiller & Owen Wilson are told to break into an office & steal some files off someone's iMac: after staring blankly at it for a while, they call for help and are told that the files are "inside the computer". Like wisdom dawning on the apes in 2001, they get the idea -- and start beating on the case trying to break it open and cause the files to spill out.
      • In my favorite example, it has been observed that on the show "24", all the good guys use Macs and all the bad guys use Dells. An awareness of this pattern would have uncovered a turncoat who ended up betraying people at the end of the first season.
    • A lot of shows have hard to identify OSes. Probably on purpose.
      • On "CS
    1. Re:Random examples of movie computing by DomCurtis187 · · Score: 1

      I remember that episode of Law & Order -- the IP address they used was clearly fake (it WAS in proper form though -- something like 192.168.1.399, not just xxx.xxx like you said)

      i suppose they had to make it fake (just like phone numbers always being "xxx-555-xxxx") otherwise wannabe techies will try to connect to that IP -- think DoS :)

    2. Re:Random examples of movie computing by babbage · · Score: 1

      Actually, I'm pretty sure about the IP as I quoted it. I've noticed that a couple of episodes have mentioned IP addresses now, and generally they have been a set of four numbers (always with at least one of them larger than 255), but this particular one jumped out at me because it was only two numbers, not four.

      And I agree with you that this kind of IP address is deliberately fake, exactly like the 555 phone number prefix -- which, by the way, seems to be a legit prefix in some areas now, making decades of phony phones no longer quite so phony...

    3. Re:Random examples of movie computing by orkysoft · · Score: 1

      Also, in the series Alias, there were some guys from an criminal organization called the K Directorate. You can guess what kind of desktop they used ;-)

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    4. Re:Random examples of movie computing by curunir · · Score: 1

      The movie "Hackers" is a standard one to cite here. The movie is really awful.

      Aww...come on. Hackers was great! Forgetting for a second the Angelina Jolie factor (which might have made it watchable in and of itself), I actually liked the way they dealt with computers.

      If they'd been 100% accurate about how computers worked, the movie just wouldn't have worked. Even geeks would've been bored watching someone just type commands into a CLI.

      They could've done what other movies did and hire someone who knows what they're doing as a consultant, but that doesn't really work either. Antitrust is a good example of that. Miguel de Icaza, among others, worked as a consultant on that film. That movie, while in some respects acurate, was still incredibly bothersome in many of the technical details.

      They could've forgone the techical expert consultant route and just done what the director and writer envisioned as being somewhat accurate. That is the route most movies take...what you dubbed "MovieOS".

      But instead, they made no pretense whatsoever about being in any way accurate. They made mistakes that even your average AOLer at the time would have caught. For instance, they confused the concepts of username and password. The less they grounded the film in reality, the more I was willing to accept (hacking traffic lights, school fire systems, etc.) If a movie willfully acknowledges from the beginning that it is not basing itself in reality, I'm much more willing to accept something unrealistic that it presents. Were it not for this principle, most Terry Gilliam films would be unwatchable.

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    5. Re:Random examples of movie computing by babbage · · Score: 1

      I don't describe "Hackers" as awful because I have a problem with willing suspension of disbelief (I mean, I like "Law & Order" in spite of the silly IP addresses, just to give one counterexample). No, I describe "Hackers" as awful because it's a really stupid movie, not meant for anyone more mature than a seventh grade boy.

      It's possible to make a good "hacker" movie. To name the two I can think of, "Sneakers" and "Pi" were both pretty good -- clever, well written & acted, thoroughly enjoyable movies. If there are other examples like this, I can't think of them.

      On the other hand, most of these movies are IMO garbage. "Hackers" and "Antitrust" were both just dumb, dumb, dumb. "The Matrix" gets passed off as some kind of weighty philosophical tract, but to me it has more in common with junk like "Blade": it's Action Porn, and the random nonsense that the cast spouts off between the Interesting Bits is much less central to the movie than, well, the Interesting Bits.

      Terry Gilliam on the other hand is almost always fantastic, but then I can't think of any obvious use of computers in his movies, unless you count the Fresnel lens displays in "Brazil" or "12 Monkeys", but those were pretty obviously Not Meant To Be Taken Seriously :-)

    6. Re:Random examples of movie computing by curunir · · Score: 1

      No, I describe "Hackers" as awful because it's a really stupid movie, not meant for anyone more mature than a seventh grade boy.

      Hmmm...not that it's the answer to any of life's important questions, but I liked it. I can definitely think of worse ways to spend a couple of hours.

      "The Matrix" gets passed off as some kind of weighty philosophical tract, but to me it has more in common with junk like "Blade"

      IMHO, the matrix is intro philosophy...the "gateway drug" if you will. It packages what is basically an unanswerable question into a form that is easily understandable. Think philosophy for joe six-pack with enough stylized action thrown in to keep the ADD generation from falling asleep.

      Terry Gilliam on the other hand is almost always fantastic, but then I can't think of any obvious use of computers in his movies

      I mentioned Terry Gilliam, not in reference to any computer usage in his films, but in reference to the way handles reality in general. For instance, in Baron Munchausen, they fall through the center of the earth, climb to the tip of the moon, have a character die and then whatever the fuck happened at the end (I still don't really understand it). Normally, those kinds of things would bother me if they were in a movie that took itself seriously in any way, shape or form. But the movie invites you to suspend your disbelief by making no pretenses of being realistic, so it works. To me, that's what hackers does with the computer element. It essentially says, "this is so fake that there's no reason to question any of it."

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    7. Re:Random examples of movie computing by OccSub · · Score: 1

      Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle - They open up some super-slick machine in the bad guy's super high tech computer room, and I noticed: "hey, that's a G4 tower with the case all hacked up." You could tell by the signature flip-down door with the ring handle on top.

    8. Re:Random examples of movie computing by RapaNui · · Score: 1

      Urm. In most movies, the 'OS' shown, is normally a Flash or similar animation written so that the desired action / input will always be correct, no matter which keys (or mouse movements, etc) are input by the actors. I'm sure this is by no means the only way it is done, but at least for those flashy (crappy) 'HollywoodOS' type shots, it is quite commonly used.
      I'll try and find some references to post here.....

    9. Re:Random examples of movie computing by hughk · · Score: 1
      Likewise, the computer displays on Hal in "2001: A Space Oddyssey" were also just traditional cel animation.
      But the cells were computer generated (by IBM Hursley Park Research Centre). Handling that kind of stuff real time then was out of the question. IBM hoped for a credit but they forgot about putting it in the contract, so the studio pushed them out of the way.
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  35. Crank Yankers by DomCurtis187 · · Score: 1

    There was a skit on Crank Yankers last season -- Special Ed calls a tech support guy, and brags "I got mail!" over and over. There's a big "Linux Inside" (like the "Intel Inside" logo) poster in the background... there's also a poster of a Bill Gates muppet, too :) Search for the "crank yankers got mail" video on Kazaa or Gnutella.

    1. Re:Crank Yankers by JThundley · · Score: 1

      I saw that episode too, and what I found weird was that the big "Linux Inside" poster was right next to the Microsoft poster.
      The Microsoft poster wasn't making fun of it either, it conveyed the idea that the fat techie guy loved Linux and Microsoft.

      And here's the video for slashdotting.

  36. You got mail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Features a IRIX machine made to look like Windows.

  37. Crossovers... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I recall at least one TV show where Windows XP is shown (or faked) running on a Macintosh laptop.

    Anyone have names?

  38. Not a Movie (Yet) But in the Book FLUKE by Cy+Guy · · Score: 1

    FLUKE by Christopher Moore has a scene where a local geek comes to assist the researchers by writing a computer program for them "in Linux" so its not a great reference in that the author (while IMHO the best working novelist of our time) seems a bit unclear as to what Linux is, it is - I think - a good example of the comprehension of the non-Geek public of the Linux phenomenon. i.e. something coders/computers geeks use as opposed to "normal" computer users.

  39. Hey, I still watch for the PDP-8 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In "Three Days of the Condor"
    they have a DEC PDP-8 which gets a few seconds of camera time at the beginning.

  40. Movies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  41. Jurassic Park by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My personal favorite is when the little girl 'hacker' is using a 'Unix-system' to visually navigate a 3 dimensional facilites managment system. She's so 1337!

  42. Bruce Almighty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All the pcs seem to be using gnome

  43. Aren't we forgetting TV shows too... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Drew Carey anyone.....thats where you got to see all the new macs shown off..i remember seeing the cube and other new macs

  44. Umm, about that Jurassic Park scene... by devphil · · Score: 1


    Two notes, in reverse order:

    There was probably an xterm open somewhere offcamera or behind the file manager window so that a technician could enter commands in between the GUI clips that made it into the film.

    On-screen computer activity is, as a rule, never "live". One missed mouse click, one badly-timed BSOD, one random error message, a typo on a hidden xterm or remote prompt, and that's a serious shitload of money down the drain. (Think costs of film, lights, salaries...) It's always done in advance, done to perfection, and then simply played back on screen.

    where the girl sits down at a terminal, looks things over, then exclaims "This is Unix! I know Unix!". Silly, but then it was real, sort of: the screen shots were of an experimental 3D file manager from SGI.

    Not that experimental. I went to ftp.sgi.com and downloaded the source from the anonymous public area. Took a while to get it to build on the Onyx servers, but I was eventually flying around my home directory. I forget what the shapes and colors indicated, but I think height represented file size.

    Wasn't so much "experimental" as much it was "really freakin slow".

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  45. JOB by cerebralpc · · Score: 0

    Remember in Mission Impossible when Tom had to search the Internet and his only clue was JOB... it was amazing how after typing in (you guessed it) JOB - the search came up with the just the top secret information he was looking for. Computers are generally totally misrepresented in the movies. And did you ever notice how in Star Wars the space ships make noise - well thats impossible in space!!!!!

  46. Office Space? by Cyno01 · · Score: 1

    Not linux i dont think, but a MacOS look-alike running on beige boxes. Probably the fullscreen flash thing someone mentioned earlier. MacOS bars, but an hourglass and not a watch while waiting for the file to copy, and he was definitly playing the same version of tetris i had on my old Win 3.1 box in an earlier scene.

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  47. Sure seemed Fake by key45 · · Score: 1

    It was a real filesystem? Wow. I remember watching that scene and thinking how fake the thing seemed: "Who would navigate their filesystem by moving around big pink cubes?"

    It seems like given the choice between real boring yet functional interfaces and futuristic flashy yet unimplementable interfaces, filmmakers always choose the latter. Not that I blame them, but it almost always unsuspends the disbelief for me...

    1. Re:Sure seemed Fake by cdrudge · · Score: 1

      It wasn't a filesystem. It was a way of representing the filesystem. NTFS is the filesystem...Windows explorer is the method to represent that filesystem in something you can visualize.

  48. Wayne's World by Mr+Muppet · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Not a computer, but didn't Garth in Wayne's World (can't remember if it was 1 or 2) have a book titled Unix Administrator's something-or-other? And I think he even talked to a girl about Unix for a brief second.

    1. Re:Wayne's World by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah Waynes world 2 when there trying to get permission to do the festival in the national park,

    2. Re:Wayne's World by sql*kitten · · Score: 1

      Not a computer, but didn't Garth in Wayne's World (can't remember if it was 1 or 2) have a book titled Unix Administrator's something-or-other?

      If I remember correctly, it was the ubiquitous "Unix Network Programming" by the equally ubiquitous W. Richard Stevens (RIP). "Look it up in Stevens" is usually the correct answer whenever asked a question about TCP/IP or socket programming in general - if the person asking is smart enough to even understand the answer, it's almost certain they'll already own this book.

    3. Re:Wayne's World by Krunch · · Score: 1
      It's the girl who has the book and Garth sees it
      The Unix book? <geekish smile> Cool.
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    4. Re:Wayne's World by Krunch · · Score: 1

      and it was Wayne's World 2 (at the end)

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  49. Also in the timer. by man1ed · · Score: 1

    When Edward Norton starts the timer, you can clearly see Linux and bash.

  50. Grosse Point Blank by dbIII · · Score: 1
    The video game in the convenience store where the player doesn't notice a shootout going on around him is DOOM - certainly not a game console of any kind at the time.

    Could be linux, could be DOS, but certainly not a stand alone video game.

  51. As for the reasons, think what movies are MADE on! by PaulBu · · Score: 1

    If you have a cluster of 1024+ Linux boxen humming in the background, it is REALLY easy to find someone who'd offer a helpful solution to the "Hey, we need a weird+nerdy computer screen here!" problem. ;-)

    Paul B.

  52. TV Product Placement is Illegal by good+soldier+svejk · · Score: 1
    As has been noted all over, Macs show up a lot in movies & tv shows. This probably isn't a coincidence: the machines may look nicer than the typical beige box PC, but the product placement was probably paid for [apple.com] (also see here, at the bottom [wired.com]) in most cases, just as it would be for any other identifiable consumer product in a show.

    Actually, in the US product placement on television is prohibited under the FCC sponsorship identification requirements of 47 U.S.C. 317 and 508, and 47 C.F.R. 73.1211. My wife used to be Director of Marketing of a well known consumer goods manufacturer. She says that back in her day TV placement for gratis product was already common, but the shows didn't even ask for money, probably more because it devalued advertising slots than because they were afraid of the FCC. Apparently this is no longer the case.

    Hollywood, without advertisers or the FCC to answer to, was never so shy. She didn't pay them, because she was always able to place gratis product, but they always asked.
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    1. Re:TV Product Placement is Illegal by babbage · · Score: 1
      Actually, in the US product placement on television is prohibited under the FCC sponsorship identification requirements of 47 U.S.C. 317 and 508, and 47 C.F.R. 73.1211. My wife used to be Director of Marketing of a well known consumer goods manufacturer. She says that back in her day TV placement for gratis product was already common, but the shows didn't even ask for money, probably more because it devalued advertising slots than because they were afraid of the FCC. Apparently this is no longer the case.

      Indeed it doesn't seem to be the case any more.

      Over the summer, NBC ran a reality show called "The Restaraunt". This show was blatantly paid for by American Express, Coors, and Mitsubishi -- products from these companies would be gratuitously dropped into the show every few minutes, and most / all of the commercials were from these three names. But don't take my word for it.

      The show got reasonably good ratings, which was fantastic for NBC: reality shows, with their convenient lack of professional writers & actors, are already much cheaper than traditional shows. Getting some companies to foot the relatively small bill just made it an even better deal for them. Even if the ratings were bad, the show would probably have been profitable, but the fact that it was successful meant that it's likely to be a trendsetter.

      And indeed, this year's season of "24" is sponsored by Ford as a promotion for one of their trucks. Tonight's episode was bracketed by two extended length (five minute or so) commercials for Ford, the show was prefixed by a pitch for the product by Keifer Sutherland, and the truck showed up in the episode itself -- as, I'm sure, it will for the rest of the year.

      I wasn't aware of the law you cite, but something has clearly changed in recent months. One widely cited reason for the shift is the rise of commercial-skipping video recorders like the Tivo -- you may be able to skip the commercial breaks, but if the sponsorship is part of the show itself then it's a lot harder to avoid. Did the FCC rules change, or is this just some kind of corporate civil disobedience, flouting the law knowing that Michael Powell's FCC is unlikely to do anything to stop them? I don't know, but it would be illuminative to find out if the Ralph Nader suit you cite goes anywhere. Chances are, nowhere, but we'll see...

    2. Re:TV Product Placement is Illegal by good+soldier+svejk · · Score: 1

      I am pretty sure the regs are still on the books. Or at least they were as recently as 2000. That was when the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws (NORML) filed a complaint with the FCC alleging the broadcast networks were in violation because they accepted Public Service Announcement (PSA) credits from the Office of National Drug Control Policy (ONDCP) in return for airing anti-drug content in its regular programming. NORML maintained that because the networks did not disclose the compensation they violated the sponsorship disclosure requirements.

      The FCC rejected NORML's complaint, but instructed the networks to identify the ONDCP as a sponsor in the future.

      The thing about regulation is that someone has to enforce it.

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      -James Baldwin
  53. The movie is a COMEDY, specifically, PARODY! by Lord+Bitman · · Score: 1

    Of course the characters would be using an entirely unrealistic operating system, which no real person would ever use. It's stupposed to be FUNNY you nitwits!

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  54. Hackers! by Lord+Kano · · Score: 1

    At the end when Dade is telling Joey where to find the garbage file, he dictates to him a command that is obviously really *NIX-like.

    LK

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    1. Re:Hackers! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isn't that the one with all the "dot slash"es? I thought that's where slashdot got their idea for a name, since it does not really resolve to a real path, but it sounded really technical. (it's been a while since I saw the movie, though...)

  55. Bergerac by philbowman · · Score: 1

    In this old UK series, I once saw someone hack into a bank's computer using WordPerfect...

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  56. Movie Ads Help by richman555 · · Score: 1

    This reminds me of the movie "You've Got Mail" with Tom Hanks. It was a big AOL advertisement basically, and Im sure really helped AOL come into greater acceptance. The more Linux is seen in movies the better. I can't understand why MS wouldn't want to be seen on film.

  57. 24 -- season 3 by lythander · · Score: 1

    Watched it last night, noticed that the minions in TCU (Jack's daughter, for one) seemed to be running some X-based window manager on Dell desktops. Jack, of course, had a powerbook.

  58. Hulk by proctorg76 · · Score: 0

    I'm pretty sure I saw a few machines in the lab in Hulk that were running some manner of unix... One of them showed a boot screen, I think it was some form of BSD

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  59. Willard by bahamat · · Score: 1

    I watched Willard for the first time a few days ago. Most of the computers in the office are on the green screen, but when Willard comes in with Ben to take revenge on the boss I noticed that the boss is running Gnumeric, Netscape 6, and surfing porn sites. Interestingly enough, peekabooweb.com featured in the movie is registered by AOL but has no IP assigned.

    I took some screenshots to put on my website but haven't had the time yet.

  60. Scary... by Jorkapp · · Score: 1

    Mozilla in scary movie? that is scary! (/me imagines it crashing...)

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  61. Bit late... by Qwell · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I was just watching the Drew Carey show(an old Episode), where he tries to get a job at what the dept store has become(the .com). They were saying that the only jobs open were tech jobs. Drew said, "I can do tech." They then asked Drew if he could use Linux. He said yes(naturally), and they asked, "Redhat 7.2?" Made me think of this article, thought I'd post it.

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  62. Pi? by at_kernel_99 · · Score: 1

    I don't recall any mention of OS, but can't imagine the frankenputer in Pi running anything but *nix. Anyone?

  63. Wayne's World 2 by Krunch · · Score: 1

    At the end "That's a UNIX Book...Cool". http://www.google.be/search?q=cache:pvZfs2J0P4IJ:w ww.theideabasket.com/index.php/article/articleprin t/35/-1/2/+%22wayne%27s+world+2%22+unix

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  64. Jerry McGuire by mdsandler · · Score: 1

    I noticed last time I watched Jerry McGuire that the agency he got fired from has SGI workstations on everyone's desks. The grey monitors and 4dwm manager are pretty easy to spot.

  65. Linux on TV by SilvergunSuperman · · Score: 1

    Not a TV show, but I saw a Dell commercial where the IT man is talking to the CEO, and mentions Linux clusters.

  66. Operation Takedown by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That one movie that was kinda a biography of kevin mitnick used alot of linux/*bsd/*nix.

  67. It is popular in animes by gothmog666 · · Score: 1

    right now i can remember 2 animes i saw linux in it.

    one is chobits - u can see it perfectly, linux is writen on a texbook.

    the other is onegai twins. the main character is a programer and he uses linux all the time.

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  68. They do, don't they ... by zonix · · Score: 1
    Using an atypical desktop or a slide show that fakes it entirely eliminates this.

    Actually I find the fake ones distracting, but that's because I'm just a geek. I find they're almost always very poorly done with bells and whistles to make it clear what's happening, ie. messages like "Copying virus...".

    However, I found the desktop in American Pie's "Nadiavision" sequence very nicely executed. There are lots of goodies to spot if you freeze frame and look at all the overlapping windows. I remember you can see Jim's email address @eastgreatfalls.edu (FYI, the working title of the movie was East Great Falls High), and you can also se he accidentally selects the East Great Falls Directory in the recipients list when sending the email with the link to his webcam. The link was an HTTP URL with correct dotted decimal IP address.

    z
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  69. No Movies, Just Sitcoms... by sircle_72 · · Score: 1

    While I personally haven't noticed what OS'es are used in movies, I have seen a lot of shows on ABC (The American Broadcasting Channel for those outside the U.S.) using primarily Macs. 'The Drew Carey Show', 'My Wife and Kids', and 'The George Lopez Show' just for starters. My father-in-law has worked for ABC for nearly thirty years as a videotape editor and live-feed coordinator. While he isn't 100% on the reasoning behind using only Macs on some of their top shows, he has heard murmurings from his friends that work on those shows that Microsoft had made some not-so-subtle threats to sue if they weren't paid royalties for every instance of a Windows screen being used. While I personally will not attest to the validity of these claims, I most certainly would not be suprised.

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    1. Re:No Movies, Just Sitcoms... by sircle_72 · · Score: 1

      Addendum: After further discussions with dear ol' dad-in-law, it also stands to reason that ABC is owned by Disney, who owns a great deal of Pixar, who runs almost exclusively Mac products for its mind-blowing movies and the effects therein. Steve Jobs sees very pertinent advertising space being used every time he turns on one of the aforementioned shows, and has made sure to make it worth ABC's while to continue displaying his products (read: green paper pocket linings).

      A gift of generosity out of thanks for free adverts, or a strongarm tactic usually employed by playground bullies? Which seems like the better business model to you?

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