When I complained about the political corrupts that rule back where I live, a swiss guy explained me that voting is the least you can do to keep the politicians in check. If you actually care, you will have to organize with other people to for instance review the public records or financials. But in the end quick, reliable, evolutive, secure, private, equal, transparent and open source voting is a must for decision making. So it is important to replace the voting process with the digital age because that will allow faster and more informed decisions. Representative democracy doesnt work anymore, I for one would replace it with something more 2.0, the sooner the better.
hi shill, how much are you payed to always jump on any comment that hints of USA government not being the best thing since sliced bread? are you even for real, or do they have algorithms so powerfull that your propaganda is spewed automatically?
Unnecessary worldwide poisoning with lead through car gasoline (known to be neurotoxic for hundreths of years) still happens today in some parts of the world. Read http://www.todayifoundout.com/... to see how we really don't deserve the name gaven to our species...
Nowadays, jet fuel, maybe even on purpose for solar management geo engineering (even unilateral as per CFR recomendations), is leaking all kinds of bizarre particulates all over the world.
There is a heated discussion on whether what we now see almost on a daily basis are contrails or chemtrails. Who cares! Just don't poison us! What matters is that this is relatively new worldwide phenomenon ( less than a decade), and tests have proven that air quality is degrading everywhere. Why not being more proactive, and make sure that whatever they add to the jet formulas is safe? Look up, next time you see a nice sun shiny day turn to a misty, smoggy, gray day from air traffic, remember it took almost a century to ban lean in car gasoline. Do you feel safe? Z
Most people on this forum are IT related, and I do not need to explain how software patents in particular hinder the ability to innovate in the field. Only the US has terror histories regarding patent trolls and patent dicksizing contests between software companies, which in no way help you be better, faster, and, I would even say more profitable (Lawyers being the only ones profiting out of this) There is no room for software start ups because of this. Everything that could be patented already is (and a lot that shouldn't is too). Here, in software patent free world, it's so much better. Whatever you can think of you can do it, and even if you cannot find a solution, you can google for it, code it, and that's it. No lawyers or burocracies needed. This is a clear situation of the big fish creating rules to eat the small fish. Is that the world you want to live in?
(the same could be applied to the rest of patents, and even things outside patents like equality and justice, but I will stay out of it to keep on topic)
This looks soooo much like the way smalltalk engines where implemented in the 80's it's boring. One can always count on MS to bring the latest in software innovation
have you noticed that just for the fact that the country name has democratic or people or republic on its name, it will have a far greater chance of it being a dictatorship... having democratic people's republic is just asking for trouble:P
thanks for the post, long but worth reading, hope someone gives it some moderation to raise its status as most people will pass it with the current 0 points!
>The terrorists won on 9/11. Someone won 9/11, because a lot has changed... I guess your afirmation is true for a certain definition of terrorists, general population on the other hand, lost a lot, civil liberties being just one of them.
as you probably now, USA care about human rights of a country in a proportionally inverse fashion to the amount of oil they import from said country... hell they are not even using enough internal oil to care enough for their own people!
bio diesel industry is wrong, the benefits you get are obscured by: - food scarcity - goverment bonuses to big farmer and big evil (insert monsanto/whatever here) - patent trolls - CO positive, because mass farming is OIL intensive industry - lowest return on the barrel ever - ecological destruction of habitats etc etc etc... just go read about it!
That happening on the XXI century, having such a clear violation of human rights (I could quote you on those, but if I recall correctly is the most translated text ever, so RTF UDHR http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/index.shtml ), is, to say the least, shameful! Not having official complaints from every other nation proves the state of uncarefulness for your neighbours our societies reached.
Beware! It will happen to you next! (And you have been warned for several years now BTW)
that doesnt mean that from time to time we couldnt try others no? i'd like an online idyllic forum, where everyone would reach consensus as to what the best policies for 5 10 20 50 100 1000 years would be, and dynamic enough so it could track and adapt to better solutions to the planning without getting tied to stupid political games and worst.
Hmmm not this one...i'll have to look somewhere else then;)
gratz! One of the best comments in a while, which captures the essence of the problem. of all places, here is where someone should say that the answer is obvious, as it relays on computers and software. Because we obviously cannot be counted upon to have a good government without proper supervision. "democratically" we cannot see further than a hand full of years. there is no sense of continuity nor public good, because every politician that gets elected needs to warrant the reelection in 4 years, and sometimes that is hard, and sometimes the ones in power (and not necessarily elected) will "get for them" (as in steal) what they can while it lasts, thus damaging the greater good at the expense of their own selves. but that is to be expected, as such is the primal gene/cortex/whatever that makes man able to think that himself is more worthfull than the others, and while some may resist, without proper supervision it would all only with true transparency would a "good" government work, and that, as we know, is not the case of any government, as they all keep their secrets and intrigues.
Never mind voting, last time the european parlament (with people elected through voting) said no to software patents, the prime ministers tried to overturn the move and aprove a higher yes to patents, which, if I recall correctly, was stopped only because of the polac prime minister, to which all in EU should thank. Voting, not voting, all bollocks and all the same.
Hi,
You're right on track here, to support you I quote you article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights:
Article 19.
* Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.
So, anything less of the above, are rights that have been removed from you by lobbys and governments.
Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers. (emphasys mine)
The sense of impending Doom must be intrinsic to the human race. Just see how many movies portrait the demise of a town/society due to a quake/tornado/flood/terrorists/aliens/etc. Our own notion of drama makes us like to watch the doom and chaos. I remember when I was younger there was a friend of mine with a really ugly wart. Everyone would go and ask him hey let me look at it... yuc! disgusting... show it again!
Because to me it has been always clear that a billion humans should be good enough for everyone:P The problem would always be how to choose the 1 out of 6 that remains. For that I have no great solution, so I suggest total random... how about we group in 6's and play the hardcore version of the russian roulete ? How about the remaining one would have to bury the other 5 ?
Ok, I think I made my point, you can mod me to oblivion now for all I care...
given that IQ of 100 is the average of IQ of the population, in a normal distribution you will have about the same above as below that treshold.
When I complained about the political corrupts that rule back where I live, a swiss guy explained me that voting is the least you can do to keep the politicians in check.
If you actually care, you will have to organize with other people to for instance review the public records or financials.
But in the end quick, reliable, evolutive, secure, private, equal, transparent and open source voting is a must for decision making.
So it is important to replace the voting process with the digital age because that will allow faster and more informed decisions.
Representative democracy doesnt work anymore, I for one would replace it with something more 2.0, the sooner the better.
hi shill, how much are you payed to always jump on any comment that hints of USA government not being the best thing since sliced bread?
are you even for real, or do they have algorithms so powerfull that your propaganda is spewed automatically?
Unnecessary worldwide poisoning with lead through car gasoline (known to be neurotoxic for hundreths of years) still happens today in some parts of the world.
Read http://www.todayifoundout.com/... to see how we really don't deserve the name gaven to our species...
Nowadays, jet fuel, maybe even on purpose for solar management geo engineering (even unilateral as per CFR recomendations), is leaking all kinds of bizarre particulates all over the world.
There is a heated discussion on whether what we now see almost on a daily basis are contrails or chemtrails. Who cares! Just don't poison us!
What matters is that this is relatively new worldwide phenomenon ( less than a decade), and tests have proven that air quality is degrading everywhere.
Why not being more proactive, and make sure that whatever they add to the jet formulas is safe?
Look up, next time you see a nice sun shiny day turn to a misty, smoggy, gray day from air traffic, remember it took almost a century to ban lean in car gasoline. Do you feel safe?
Z
yeah, troll me to oblivion if you disagree!!! Thats gotta be for sure the answer to living in a dual standard society
we could just wait for good old usofa to go there and democratize the hell out of them...
Z
Most people on this forum are IT related, and I do not need to explain how software patents in particular hinder the ability to innovate in the field.
Only the US has terror histories regarding patent trolls and patent dicksizing contests between software companies, which in no way help you be better, faster, and, I would even say more profitable (Lawyers being the only ones profiting out of this)
There is no room for software start ups because of this. Everything that could be patented already is (and a lot that shouldn't is too).
Here, in software patent free world, it's so much better. Whatever you can think of you can do it, and even if you cannot find a solution, you can google for it, code it, and that's it. No lawyers or burocracies needed.
This is a clear situation of the big fish creating rules to eat the small fish. Is that the world you want to live in?
(the same could be applied to the rest of patents, and even things outside patents like equality and justice, but I will stay out of it to keep on topic)
This looks soooo much like the way smalltalk engines where implemented in the 80's it's boring.
One can always count on MS to bring the latest in software innovation
have you noticed that just for the fact that the country name has democratic or people or republic on its name, it will have a far greater chance of it being a dictatorship... having democratic people's republic is just asking for trouble :P
thanks for the post, long but worth reading, hope someone gives it some moderation to raise its status as most people will pass it with the current 0 points!
Keeping it short, NO (allow me to save some bytes in this rough economy!)
>The terrorists won on 9/11.
Someone won 9/11, because a lot has changed...
I guess your afirmation is true for a certain definition of terrorists, general population on the other hand, lost a lot, civil liberties being just one of them.
as you probably now, USA care about human rights of a country in a proportionally inverse fashion to the amount of oil they import from said country...
hell they are not even using enough internal oil to care enough for their own people!
bio diesel industry is wrong, the benefits you get are obscured by:
- food scarcity
- goverment bonuses to big farmer and big evil (insert monsanto/whatever here)
- patent trolls
- CO positive, because mass farming is OIL intensive industry
- lowest return on the barrel ever
- ecological destruction of habitats
etc etc etc... just go read about it!
That happening on the XXI century, having such a clear violation of human rights (I could quote you on those, but if I recall correctly is the most translated text ever, so RTF UDHR http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/index.shtml ), is, to say the least, shameful!
Not having official complaints from every other nation proves the state of uncarefulness for your neighbours our societies reached.
Beware! It will happen to you next! (And you have been warned for several years now BTW)
insert mandatory quote here: ... Then they came for me,
"
and there was no one left to speak for me." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came...
that doesnt mean that from time to time we couldnt try others no?
i'd like an online idyllic forum, where everyone would reach consensus as to what the best policies for 5 10 20 50 100 1000 years would be, and dynamic enough so it could track and adapt to better solutions to the planning without getting tied to stupid political games and worst.
Hmmm not this one...i'll have to look somewhere else then ;)
gratz!
One of the best comments in a while, which captures the essence of the problem.
of all places, here is where someone should say that the answer is obvious, as it relays on computers and software. Because we obviously cannot be counted upon to have a good government without proper supervision.
"democratically" we cannot see further than a hand full of years. there is no sense of continuity nor public good, because every politician that gets elected needs to warrant the reelection in 4 years, and sometimes that is hard, and sometimes the ones in power (and not necessarily elected) will "get for them" (as in steal) what they can while it lasts, thus damaging the greater good at the expense of their own selves.
but that is to be expected, as such is the primal gene/cortex/whatever that makes man able to think that himself is more worthfull than the others, and while some may resist, without proper supervision it would all
only with true transparency would a "good" government work, and that, as we know, is not the case of any government, as they all keep their secrets and intrigues.
Z
Never mind voting, last time the european parlament (with people elected through voting) said no to software patents, the prime ministers tried to overturn the move and aprove a higher yes to patents, which, if I recall correctly, was stopped only because of the polac prime minister, to which all in EU should thank.
Voting, not voting, all bollocks and all the same.
off topic, ianam, but its easy to prove that 0.9(9) = 1
0.9(9) = 3 x 0.3(3)
1/3 = 0.3(3)
3 x 1/3 = 1 = 0.9(9)
where can you find a mathematician which swears this cant be ?
Hi,
You're right on track here, to support you I quote you article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights:
Article 19.
* Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.
So, anything less of the above, are rights that have been removed from you by lobbys and governments.
Mega criminal mind
bravo
I Agree with you, and furthermore point you to:
Universal declaration of human rights:
http://www.un.org/Overview/rights.html
Article 19.
Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.
(emphasys mine)
The sense of impending Doom must be intrinsic to the human race.
Just see how many movies portrait the demise of a town/society due to a quake/tornado/flood/terrorists/aliens/etc.
Our own notion of drama makes us like to watch the doom and chaos.
I remember when I was younger there was a friend of mine with a really ugly wart. Everyone would go and ask him hey let me look at it... yuc! disgusting... show it again!
Because to me it has been always clear that a billion humans should be good enough for everyone:P
The problem would always be how to choose the 1 out of 6 that remains.
For that I have no great solution, so I suggest total random... how about we group in 6's and play the hardcore version of the russian roulete ? How about the remaining one would have to bury the other 5 ?
Ok, I think I made my point, you can mod me to oblivion now for all I care...