Ha-ha! I found some unprotected disk images on the web and installed it on every one of my machines at home. It didn't cost me a dime. Hacked my way around the registration and got it running.
Those looo-hsers at the Kubuntu corporation don't even know I have it!
I used to think that they were smart but duplicitous.
Stupidity, raised to high enough level, is indistinguishable from malice.
I think that's what confusing about them. They're so certain about everything it's natural to assume there's a plan. Even when things go horribly wrong, they'll absolutely refuse to accept reality. If the news isn't good, change the news. Failing that attack the messenger. Never seen anything like it in my lifetime. I'm a little young to remember McCarthyism.
People I know supporting them, until just recently, were every bit as determined to hang on to their almost delusional views. Although now the justifications have gotten so ridiculous defense is largely half-hearted. I've seen several Bush bumper stickers in various stages of being scrapped off.
I'll bet she graduated from Oral Roberts University and proved her organizational and people skill as a Republican fund raiser.
That makes her as qualified, for any job, as anyone else in the Bush administration. Hell, I'm surprised she didn't get the number two or three spot in the Justice Department with those qualifications.
If this doesn't work out put her in charge of FEMA.
Subtract the OEM numbers and then let's compare Vista growth. I want to know how Vista stacks up with people who have a choice. If all OEM's offered Ubuntu machines and those machines reflected the true price difference, then how does MSFT do?
I don't doubt Vista will turn out to be a pretty good OS. I believe MSFT will sort out the driver issues and some of the early troubles. My question is not if it will be better, my question is whether it's so much better that it justifies the price difference?
My perception is the answer for a lot of people would be, right now at least, no.
right alongside desktop apps (through compositing).
At first I thought that said through composting. Guess you'd have to call that organic computing.
On a serious note....Instead, trusted Web sites and extensions are given access to the full range of interactivity and control enjoyed by native applications today.
The "trust" issue would loom very large in that statement. Provides some interesting possibilities all the same.
This is the state that wants to teach creationism in the classroom. This type of no tolerance = no intelligence policy is completely in keeping their right wing, my way or highway mentality.
Are they going to maintain a list of words that are okay to use on TV? It's so arbitrary and transient. What happens when "asshole" gets shortened to "hole" with the meaning determined by context? Would the FCC start regulating words and their context? It's totally insane.
Better yet, what happens when the FCC decides the word "Republican" is an obscenity? Not so funny now, is it Right Wing Freak Boy?
The Feds would have the $$$ and be able to hire the skill labor to build some pretty sophisticated spyware tools. On the other hand, I wouldn't be surprised to find out Microsoft included a back door in Windows. That rumor has surfaced before.
The problem with either of those options is if they get out in the wild. How many people have access to those tools and how is their deployment managed? Who wouldn't be tempted to do a little sideline testing if they had those goodies in their tool chest.
Almost every ISP i ever had gave me the same answer "linux not supported"
Before Bellsouth got bought out by AT&T I would tell the support techs I was running Linux and they'd actually be impressed. One tech sounded relieved, then went on to say, "Well, we can skip all the stupid questions." And got right to the solution.
..and the sysads can't be bothered to verify what Microsoft ought to know.
Those sysads should be retrained or fired.
Agh! Easy for you to say. I'm not sure what experience leads you to so callously dismiss a group of people who are usually understaffed to start with, dealing with seemingly endless stupid user tricks and have to accommodate the buzzword-of-day in IT. I heard a management person say, and this a quote, "I think we should do that SOA thing, don't you?"
So, no, based on what I've seen working with companies across the size spectrum, unless you're willing to pony up for the staff resources, the poor people on the front lines have to cut corners where they can. And it would not seem unreasonable to me that MSFT should be able to get the patches right the first time.
Otherwise, what are we getting for our money? MSFT is one of the richest companies on the planet...rich from our $$$. Why don't they dip into those billions and provide those poor people in IT a little relief. Perhaps then they'd have enough time to go out at a decent hour and actually have a chance at reproducing.
Find another vendor then. No one forces Microsoft's products on you.
We agree on that. Unload your MSFT environment. Your costs will go down, your users will be happy. You will make money.
goes on to boast that the invention can 'take steps to verify ad consumption,' be used to block ads from competitors, and even sneak a peek at 'user document files, user e-mail files, user music files, downloaded podcasts, computer settings, [and] computer status messages' to deliver more tightly targeted ads.
They might want to switch to decaf in Redmond as the whole bunch seems to be getting a little grandiose.
Everyone who thinks this is a good idea signify by saying "Aye".
And this is the Ashcroft who ended up quiting because he wouldn't go along with wholesale spying on the American public. If someone like Ashcroft turns out to be a hero, what kind of atrocities are going on behind the scenes? It's all legal as far as Alberto is concerned.
It sounds like the author is suggesting it's time for computer science to evolve from an algorithm based system to process based. Doesn't seem all that controversial. Wouldn't that be the next logical step in the evolution of the computing machine?
I don't think he's saying do away with math, sounds more like suggesting not to be limited by a mathematical computing model.
Until you can take a distribution disk, pop it on a random machine with decent hardware, and have everything up and running without requiring any type of user action 'under the hood', Linux will remain firmly esconced in the realm of server rooms, geek basements, and nerd bedrooms; not in your average household.
Oh, for a second there I thought you were talking about Vista. What you're really saying is that until Linux is an OEM OS it won't be widely accepted. Because if you can't install Linux, you won't be able to install Vista, either.
If Dell were across the table saying hardware needed to be upgraded to support Vista, who could not be suspicious it was an attempt to pad the project because they're a hardware vendor? That's the tough position Dell consulting is in when a hardware refresh is needed.
Disclosure: I've dealt with Dell consulting on two different projects and always found their recommendations were pretty balanced, even where hardware was involved. Don't confuse consulting with the reps.
If anything this is another badge of shame Vista will have to wear around. Your top OEM is selling Linux machines on the side and telling customers there will be problems if they try to upgrade. Even the most resolute MSFT fanboy will have a tough time putting a positive spin on this. Better call in Karl Rove for advice, this is going to take some massive counter-spin to equalize. Everybody stand clear of the whirling masses!
Not like the big one of '99. There's not enough in the geek production pipeline this time and talent in formerly developing markets are managing to stay employed right where they are. IT was so out of favor as a career choice five years ago that some colleges started scaling back their IT programs. Not only a fall off in production but many schools scrapped their production capacity.
Even if they could get their IT programs back online tomorrow and overcome the still persistent perception that IT is a career where your job will be outsourced, it would still be five years before capacity caught up with demand.
In fact, in the short term, the geek world may be flush with opportunity. The hot growth markets are overseas. They started vacuuming up some of the excess of world IT talent, which I believe is what contributed to the sudden shortage here.
I still remember stuffy managers looking at a proposal and snuffing that they could outsource the development for half the cost. Fast forward a couple years...got a call from a tech company in town this am offering to contract all the hours I can spare them at a premium rate. Who's laughing now, Mr. Poopy Pants?
Okay, you're right, we shouldn't use this as an opportunity to be petty and say things like NA-NA-NA-NANAAAAAAAAAA!!! Or NEENER, NEENER, NEENER. We must be adults about this when dealing with the LOOOOOOOO-HOO-HOOOOSSSSERRRSSSSS!!!!!
The bottom line is you have to transmit personally identifiable information to Microsoft to keep Vista running properly. Unless you're willing to go to extreme lengths to sanitize every bit of outbound data.
I know my ISP is keeping records of where I visit on the internet. But if that really worried me I could tunnel through to a secure proxy and all they get is the proxy IP. If you block Microsoft at the firewall your operating system will stop working and you won't be able to get security updates.
Finished updating my home network to Kubuntu this weekend. Very nice. I support Microcrap all day and going home to my Linux network is like diving into a clear, cool pool at the end of a hot day. Everything is so fluid, easy to manage, low stress computing. Funny thing, I remember a day when going with Microsoft was the low stress networking option.
This is MSFT thumbing their nose at Dell selling Linux boxes. Oh, yeah? We'll show you, we'll sell PC's! Starting in India is just a shot over Dell's bow. Hinting that they could always start competing directly here in the US.
If I were Dell, I wouldn't be worried. MSFT won't be any better at selling hardware than they are at anything else.
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Ha-ha! I found some unprotected disk images on the web and installed it on every one of my machines at home. It didn't cost me a dime. Hacked my way around the registration and got it running.
Those looo-hsers at the Kubuntu corporation don't even know I have it!
I'm l33t! I r3w1!
I used to think that they were smart but duplicitous.
Stupidity, raised to high enough level, is indistinguishable from malice.
I think that's what confusing about them. They're so certain about everything it's natural to assume there's a plan. Even when things go horribly wrong, they'll absolutely refuse to accept reality. If the news isn't good, change the news. Failing that attack the messenger. Never seen anything like it in my lifetime. I'm a little young to remember McCarthyism.
People I know supporting them, until just recently, were every bit as determined to hang on to their almost delusional views. Although now the justifications have gotten so ridiculous defense is largely half-hearted. I've seen several Bush bumper stickers in various stages of being scrapped off.
I'll bet she graduated from Oral Roberts University and proved her organizational and people skill as a Republican fund raiser.
That makes her as qualified, for any job, as anyone else in the Bush administration. Hell, I'm surprised she didn't get the number two or three spot in the Justice Department with those qualifications.
If this doesn't work out put her in charge of FEMA.
Subtract the OEM numbers and then let's compare Vista growth. I want to know how Vista stacks up with people who have a choice. If all OEM's offered Ubuntu machines and those machines reflected the true price difference, then how does MSFT do?
I don't doubt Vista will turn out to be a pretty good OS. I believe MSFT will sort out the driver issues and some of the early troubles. My question is not if it will be better, my question is whether it's so much better that it justifies the price difference?
My perception is the answer for a lot of people would be, right now at least, no.
...consultants. Time for Ubuntu to move into the enterprise.
right alongside desktop apps (through compositing).
At first I thought that said through composting. Guess you'd have to call that organic computing.
On a serious note....Instead, trusted Web sites and extensions are given access to the full range of interactivity and control enjoyed by native applications today.
The "trust" issue would loom very large in that statement. Provides some interesting possibilities all the same.
I have yet to find the "config" item that will absolutely prevent Firefox or Seamonkey from using tabs, which I despise...and I HATE Flash...
And stay off my lawn!!!
Punks. ;)
This is the state that wants to teach creationism in the classroom. This type of no tolerance = no intelligence policy is completely in keeping their right wing, my way or highway mentality.
Some remind me why secession was such a bad idea.
Are they going to maintain a list of words that are okay to use on TV? It's so arbitrary and transient. What happens when "asshole" gets shortened to "hole" with the meaning determined by context? Would the FCC start regulating words and their context? It's totally insane.
Better yet, what happens when the FCC decides the word "Republican" is an obscenity? Not so funny now, is it Right Wing Freak Boy?
The Feds would have the $$$ and be able to hire the skill labor to build some pretty sophisticated spyware tools. On the other hand, I wouldn't be surprised to find out Microsoft included a back door in Windows. That rumor has surfaced before.
The problem with either of those options is if they get out in the wild. How many people have access to those tools and how is their deployment managed? Who wouldn't be tempted to do a little sideline testing if they had those goodies in their tool chest.
Almost every ISP i ever had gave me the same answer "linux not supported"
Before Bellsouth got bought out by AT&T I would tell the support techs I was running Linux and they'd actually be impressed. One tech sounded relieved, then went on to say, "Well, we can skip all the stupid questions." And got right to the solution.
No problems with AT&T...so far anyway.
Aren't Russian and Chinese hackers going to have a ball with these! Wonder what kind of lies we'll hear about what caused the friendly fire accidents?
Those sysads should be retrained or fired.
Agh! Easy for you to say. I'm not sure what experience leads you to so callously dismiss a group of people who are usually understaffed to start with, dealing with seemingly endless stupid user tricks and have to accommodate the buzzword-of-day in IT. I heard a management person say, and this a quote, "I think we should do that SOA thing, don't you?"
So, no, based on what I've seen working with companies across the size spectrum, unless you're willing to pony up for the staff resources, the poor people on the front lines have to cut corners where they can. And it would not seem unreasonable to me that MSFT should be able to get the patches right the first time.
Otherwise, what are we getting for our money? MSFT is one of the richest companies on the planet...rich from our $$$. Why don't they dip into those billions and provide those poor people in IT a little relief. Perhaps then they'd have enough time to go out at a decent hour and actually have a chance at reproducing.
Find another vendor then. No one forces Microsoft's products on you.
We agree on that. Unload your MSFT environment. Your costs will go down, your users will be happy. You will make money.
goes on to boast that the invention can 'take steps to verify ad consumption,' be used to block ads from competitors, and even sneak a peek at 'user document files, user e-mail files, user music files, downloaded podcasts, computer settings, [and] computer status messages' to deliver more tightly targeted ads.
They might want to switch to decaf in Redmond as the whole bunch seems to be getting a little grandiose.
Everyone who thinks this is a good idea signify by saying "Aye".
(cricket_chirp.wav)
Anyone at all?
Try Ubuntu - it seems to work with almost everything
You can try Ubuntu and Kubuntu to dabble with KDE. In my experience, Kubuntu is a little sparkier running off the live CD.
More on Ashcroft's Justice Dept
And this is the Ashcroft who ended up quiting because he wouldn't go along with wholesale spying on the American public. If someone like Ashcroft turns out to be a hero, what kind of atrocities are going on behind the scenes? It's all legal as far as Alberto is concerned.
What a horrible chapter in our nations history.
It sounds like the author is suggesting it's time for computer science to evolve from an algorithm based system to process based. Doesn't seem all that controversial. Wouldn't that be the next logical step in the evolution of the computing machine?
I don't think he's saying do away with math, sounds more like suggesting not to be limited by a mathematical computing model.
Some plastic battery boxes a roll of duct tape and cha-ching, ba-by! One meeeeelllion dollars!
Until you can take a distribution disk, pop it on a random machine with decent hardware, and have everything up and running without requiring any type of user action 'under the hood', Linux will remain firmly esconced in the realm of server rooms, geek basements, and nerd bedrooms; not in your average household.
Oh, for a second there I thought you were talking about Vista. What you're really saying is that until Linux is an OEM OS it won't be widely accepted. Because if you can't install Linux, you won't be able to install Vista, either.
I'm sure he appointed people to the FCC who are every bit as competent as:
Brown
Chertoff
Wolfowitz
Rumsfeld
Harriot Myers
Alberto Gonzales
Scotter Libby
...it's a very long list. Should I keep going or did I make my point?
If Dell were across the table saying hardware needed to be upgraded to support Vista, who could not be suspicious it was an attempt to pad the project because they're a hardware vendor? That's the tough position Dell consulting is in when a hardware refresh is needed.
Disclosure: I've dealt with Dell consulting on two different projects and always found their recommendations were pretty balanced, even where hardware was involved. Don't confuse consulting with the reps.
If anything this is another badge of shame Vista will have to wear around. Your top OEM is selling Linux machines on the side and telling customers there will be problems if they try to upgrade. Even the most resolute MSFT fanboy will have a tough time putting a positive spin on this. Better call in Karl Rove for advice, this is going to take some massive counter-spin to equalize. Everybody stand clear of the whirling masses!
Did anyone besides me first read that as: Tiny Generator Runs Off Vibrators ?
Or was that just me?
yea cant wait for DotComBurst 2.0
Not like the big one of '99. There's not enough in the geek production pipeline this time and talent in formerly developing markets are managing to stay employed right where they are. IT was so out of favor as a career choice five years ago that some colleges started scaling back their IT programs. Not only a fall off in production but many schools scrapped their production capacity.
Even if they could get their IT programs back online tomorrow and overcome the still persistent perception that IT is a career where your job will be outsourced, it would still be five years before capacity caught up with demand.
In fact, in the short term, the geek world may be flush with opportunity. The hot growth markets are overseas. They started vacuuming up some of the excess of world IT talent, which I believe is what contributed to the sudden shortage here.
I still remember stuffy managers looking at a proposal and snuffing that they could outsource the development for half the cost. Fast forward a couple years...got a call from a tech company in town this am offering to contract all the hours I can spare them at a premium rate. Who's laughing now, Mr. Poopy Pants?
Okay, you're right, we shouldn't use this as an opportunity to be petty and say things like NA-NA-NA-NANAAAAAAAAAA!!! Or NEENER, NEENER, NEENER. We must be adults about this when dealing with the LOOOOOOOO-HOO-HOOOOSSSSERRRSSSSS!!!!!
The bottom line is you have to transmit personally identifiable information to Microsoft to keep Vista running properly. Unless you're willing to go to extreme lengths to sanitize every bit of outbound data.
I know my ISP is keeping records of where I visit on the internet. But if that really worried me I could tunnel through to a secure proxy and all they get is the proxy IP. If you block Microsoft at the firewall your operating system will stop working and you won't be able to get security updates.
Finished updating my home network to Kubuntu this weekend. Very nice. I support Microcrap all day and going home to my Linux network is like diving into a clear, cool pool at the end of a hot day. Everything is so fluid, easy to manage, low stress computing. Funny thing, I remember a day when going with Microsoft was the low stress networking option.
Those days are over.
This is MSFT thumbing their nose at Dell selling Linux boxes. Oh, yeah? We'll show you, we'll sell PC's! Starting in India is just a shot over Dell's bow. Hinting that they could always start competing directly here in the US.
If I were Dell, I wouldn't be worried. MSFT won't be any better at selling hardware than they are at anything else.