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Tiny Generator Runs Off Vibrations

Warbothong writes "Researchers at Southampton University in the UK have developed a tiny generator that uses local vibrations to output microwatts of power. The device is smaller than one cubic centimeter. It shows promise as an alternative to batteries for applications where frequent battery replacement would not be feasible. The devices are currently being used in industry where 'there is the potential for embedding sensors in previously inaccessible locations,' but its creators imagine it could be used in devices such as pacemakers, where the beating of the heart would produce ample movement to power the magnetic mechanism."

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  1. Old tech by mulvane · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Wrist watches have had this for years now. I think it was casio who first started doing it wide scale.

    1. Re:Old tech by TheMeuge · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think for the watches, the amplitude of the "vibration" needs to be much higher in order to swing the arm. I doubt tiny little vibrations would do it, so for an application such as pacemaker, such a technology wouldn't do.

      But yes, this looks extremely promising. Couple this with a nice, but small capacitor, with a capacity for 2-3 shocks (probably 5-15mA per discharge will be sufficient), and you've got a nice little pacemaker that recharges itself.

    2. Re:Old tech by LighterShadeOfBlack · · Score: 1

      Wrist watches have had this for years now. I think it was casio who first started doing it wide scale. Actually I think it was Seiko. I distinctly remember being told about "psycho-kinetic" watches and thinking they'd found a way to convert brainwave into kinetic energy to move the hands of the watch. Even though the actual tech was still pretty cool I couldn't help but feel disappointed when somebody explained what they really did. Stupid pronunciations...
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    3. Re:Old tech by AKAImBatman · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Couple this with a nice, but small capacitor, with a capacity for 2-3 shocks (probably 5-15mA per discharge will be sufficient), and you've got a nice little pacemaker that recharges itself.

      Amusingly, self-charging pacemakers have existed for the better part of 40 years. Pacemakers used to be powered by radioisotopes which had a power-producing lifespan far in excess of the patient's remaining expected lifespan. The only catch with such pacemakers was that they had to be removed after death to recover the valuable Pu-238 materials for remanufacturing and reuse.

      According to this article by a Dr. David Prutchi PhD, the devices fell out of favor due to the availability of lithium batteries capable of lasting a decade before replacement. However, one does have to wonder if the public fear of all things nuclear didn't contribute to the downfall of such devices.
    4. Re:Old tech by steveo777 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Not sure who developed it first, but I do remember being somewhat enamored with Seiko's Kinetic watches. They had a off-center flywheel attached to a generator and gearbox that powered a small capacitor. Apparently the watch would run for 2 weeks on a full charge and all you had to do was walk around with it for a few hours. But that was a few years ago.

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    5. Re:Old tech by misleb · · Score: 1

      Not just old tech, but an old dupe. I'm too lazy to search for it, but I'm certain I read about this same device last year on Slashdot.

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    6. Re:Old tech by Vellmont · · Score: 2, Interesting


      However, one does have to wonder if the public fear of all things nuclear didn't contribute to the downfall of such devices.

      I doubt it. People were afraid of all things nuclear in the 70s and 80s as well. I also think knowledge of the nuclear battery in pacemakers wasn't very widespread (I never knew about it, and while not a medical expert I'm fairly well informed).

      My guess is it's much like the article says. A 10 year lifespan is long enough to consider replacing the unit with better technology. I bet it's also considerably cheaper to use a lithium power source than a Pu-238 one.

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    7. Re:Old tech by geekoid · · Score: 5, Funny

      Also, sometime they would leak and create 40 foot people that would rampage around the desert; which is a good thing, because someone had to stamp on those giant ants.

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    8. Re:Old tech by red_dragon · · Score: 5, Informative

      I distinctly remember being told about "psycho-kinetic" watches...

      What you actually heard was the phrase "Seiko Kinetic"; their advertisements clearly showed the mechanical parts of the charging mechanism, and made no reference to "psycho" power, whatever that might be. There's more info on it on Seiko's website.

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    9. Re:Old tech by KUHurdler · · Score: 1

      Yes, but those are US watches. Now the UK can begin making them too.

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    10. Re:Old tech by PeterBrett · · Score: 1

      Not sure who developed it first, but I do remember being somewhat enamored with Seiko's Kinetic watches. They had a off-center flywheel attached to a generator and gearbox that powered a small capacitor. Apparently the watch would run for 2 weeks on a full charge and all you had to do was walk around with it for a few hours. But that was a few years ago.

      I've got one. It's got a battery and a flywheel; the battery stops it from losing time for up to a month of leaving it stationary. One of the most elegant pieces of engineering I own.

    11. Re:Old tech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, /. is full of uncouth people. No one has corrected you yet. Harwood which patented the design in 1923 and produced the first consumer available one in 1928. Rolex first made them in 1931. Casio wasn't even founded until long after those watches were widely available. It wasn't until 1974 that Casio even got into the watch business with their new Casiotron. I have one of those and one of the first Casio G-Shocks from 1983. Neither use kinetic energy to power the watch.

    12. Re:Old tech by Walt+Dismal · · Score: 1
      Just as long as the lithium batteries aren't made by Sony, with extraneous metal particles, and prone to catastrophic thermal runaway failure. As in "Dear, what's smoking?" "Bob, Honey, I think it's YOU! And your chest is glowing!" "Arrrrgggghhhhh!" (plop)

      On the other hand, this how IronMan got started.

    13. Re:Old tech by LighterShadeOfBlack · · Score: 1

      Indeed. That's what I meant by the rest of the post ("Stupid pronunciations...")

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    14. Re:Old tech by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      If only it could set itself automatically according to the NIST radio broadcasts it'd be perfect, eh?

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    15. Re:Old tech by necro81 · · Score: 1

      My watch, a Citizen Eco-Drive, has a small solar cell array under the translucent face. When fully charged, it will keep running in the dark for several months at least. It receives enough light during my normal day (even when hiding under the cuffs of my shirt) such that it's never run out of power.

    16. Re:Old tech by Mr+44 · · Score: 1

      The Casio G-Shock Atomic Solar is pretty damn ideal.

    17. Re:Old tech by timeOday · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't call atomic batteries "self-charging."

    18. Re:Old tech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you've been to an asylum, you know that psychos have lots of energy.

    19. Re:Old tech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree except that the stuff in the G-Shock cases is pretty ugly. The Casio model 2513 had a much cleaner look. Giving Casio credit, some of the current casio Waveceptor models are starting to look good enough to actually wear.

    20. Re:Old tech by Scrameustache · · Score: 1

      Couple this with a nice, but small capacitor, with a capacity for 2-3 shocks (probably 5-15mA per discharge will be sufficient), and you've got a nice little pacemaker that recharges itself.

      Amusingly, self-charging pacemakers have existed for the better part of 40 years. Pacemakers used to be powered by radioisotopes which had a power-producing lifespan far in excess of the patient's remaining expected lifespan. The only catch with such pacemakers was that they had to be removed after death to recover the valuable Pu-238 materials for remanufacturing and reuse. Rare fuels that provide power for decades are NOT self-charging mechanisms. They're burning up fuel, big difference.
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    21. Re:Old tech by lazy_playboy · · Score: 1

      Junghans do some great watches along these lines. Great looking too.

    22. Re:Old tech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      but it looks like ass.

    23. Re:Old tech by ehrichweiss · · Score: 1

      I was thinking about that but also was wondering why they bothered with the magnets instead of using the piezo effect. Crystals can be much smaller, and I think more effective at that size, than magnets.

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    24. Re:Old tech by owlstead · · Score: 1

      "I doubt it. People were afraid of all things nuclear in the 70s and 80s as well."

      Only those without direct access to kitchen tables.

    25. Re:Old tech by Amouth · · Score: 1

      i don't know who made it first or when all i know is i where a seiko kinetic watch that was made in the 50's - now days they call them automatics

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    26. Re:Old tech by 12WTF$ · · Score: 1
      A man was killed by an exploding phone battery, the shattered ribs rupturing the heart.
      http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=exploding+pho ne+battery

      catastrophic thermal runaway failure Now that's a possible reason for lack of iPhone SDK :)
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    27. Re:Old tech by senatorpjt · · Score: 1

      This (in the article) is almost exactly the same device as is present in EZpass tags (the tags you put in your windshield to drive through toll lanes). They use the vibration of the car to jiggle a magnet through a coil, generating electricity which powers a radio transmitter. This one claims to generate "microwatts", but I'd think you'd at least need a few mW to power a transmitter that could reach the base station at the toll lane.

    28. Re:Old tech by Loligo · · Score: 1


      So Michael Jackson doesn't need to pay for the big robot to roam around outside Vegas, he just needs a leaky pacemaker?

      Won't address the lasers, but maybe if he can get a pedal powered propellor hat with LEDs on it...

        -l

  2. woo by WormholeFiend · · Score: 4, Funny

    sounds like real free energy, at last!

    suck it, Orbo!

  3. Profit by EinZweiDrei · · Score: 0, Redundant

    1. Researchers slave night and day to create vibration-powered generator, forsaking house and home in the process.
    2. Researchers' wives, frustrated, generate a harnessable amount of localized vibrations.
    3. ????????
    4. Profit!

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  4. Vibrations by Mockylock · · Score: 4, Funny

    They'll soon have vibrators that are self-powered. Handheld pocket pieces around the globe. This would definitely outsell the solar powered vibrator idea, for those who just can't be away from masturbation when stuck without batteries.

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    1. Re:Vibrations by joebok · · Score: 1

      If it weren't for that pesky 2nd law of thermodynamics, we could have perpetual orgasmatrons!

    2. Re:Vibrations by Mike89 · · Score: 1

      They'll soon have vibrators that are self-powered.
      Heh, when I first read the article title I thought it said "Tiny Generator Runs Vibrators".
  5. Interesting approach by Sherloqq · · Score: 1

    Wondering how efficient would it had been to use a piezoelectric generator (like the kind converting vibrations of a record in a record player into electricity)

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    1. Re:Interesting approach by Gibbs-Duhem · · Score: 1

      Piezos are unlikely to work well by themselves because of their inability to source much current.

      That said, devices that harvest energy from vibrations have been COMMERCIAL for a long time now. I've seen the durn things in person. They're incredible. Ferro Solutions has been doing this for at least a decade, and their products are commercially viable already. Oy.

    2. Re:Interesting approach by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmm -- My karma ran over your dogma

  6. Erm.. by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 5, Funny

    but its creators imagine it could be used in devices such as pacemakers, where the beating of the heart would produce ample movement to power the magnetic mechanism. Ladies and gentlemen, presenting the heart-powered pacemaker! From the same geniuses that brought you solar-powered flashlights, pedal-powered crutches, and a voice-controlled version of Stephen Hawking's talk box.
    1. Re:Erm.. by FinchWorld · · Score: 1

      It is my understanding pacemakers are sometimes placed beside the heart and any rewiring (retubing, whatever) is done and they they sew them up, I believe they do the same if you get a kidney transplant, must be pushed for room though.

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    2. Re:Erm.. by achilles777033 · · Score: 5, Informative

      A pacemaker doesn't beat a heart. It sends a signal (sets a pace) to cause a heart to beat of it's own accord. It is possible that the vibrations from that much moving flesh/blood could translate into an useful amount of energy back into the battery.

    3. Re:Erm.. by EMeta · · Score: 1

      While I know you're being funny (successfully), for anyone who doesn't know, pacemakers provide the signal, not the power for heart beats.

    4. Re:Erm.. by Coppit · · Score: 1

      Kudos to you! Never let reason get in the way of a good joke.

    5. Re:Erm.. by ThosLives · · Score: 1

      So, instead of just having to work to pump blood, the heart now has to do extra work to power a generator?

      Interesting idea, and I wonder what odd side effects that might have...if any. Maybe it would be a new-fangled exercise program!

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    6. Re:Erm.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      From the same geniuses that brought you solar-powered flashlights

      You can buy those from Ikea I think. The important thing is the storage delay :-)

    7. Re:Erm.. by KenRH · · Score: 1

      The virbration generator would work from the vibrations moving trough the body as a result of the heartbeat.
      Basicaly waste energy that would othervise become a tiny amount of heat in the body.
      If its enough to power a pacemake I don't know.

    8. Re:Erm.. by Gnavpot · · Score: 1

      While I know you're being funny (successfully), for anyone who doesn't know, pacemakers provide the signal, not the power for heart beats.

      But the catch22 is still quite apparent, especially when considering that pacemakers often have a built in jump start function which give a really strong pulse if the heart stops beating.
    9. Re:Erm.. by Xtravar · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yeah, I can't wait until they can tap into our bodies' energy for computers and such. All of a sudden, obesity wouldn't be a problem anymore.

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    10. Re:Erm.. by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 1

      Can't rest, heart will stop, can't rest, heart will stop...

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    11. Re:Erm.. by nschubach · · Score: 1

      So, instead of just having to work to pump blood, the heart now has to do extra work to power a generator?
      Oh man... I want them to apply this technology to some sort of exercise machine. Just have it tell my muscles to work and let them generate the power to continue working them... now if we could channel the unused energy into a battery of some type, you could design a robot to get you food and you could exercise all day long without even thinking about it!
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    12. Re:Erm.. by Firethorn · · Score: 2, Interesting

      So you provide enough storage to perform the jump start, continually topped off by the generator.

      I fail to see how it's a catch-22 any worse than the battery in a car: It provides the power to start the engine, yet has it's energy provided by the engine itself.

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    13. Re:Erm.. by BlackSnake112 · · Score: 1

      People being used to power machines, reminds me of a movie.....

    14. Re:Erm.. by ascendant · · Score: 1

      I would NOT want to power an 8800, much less the rest of a gaming computer...

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    15. Re:Erm.. by Daath · · Score: 1

      Thanks for reminding me of Crank :) Jason Statham is pretty cool in that flick... I love how he takes his girlfriend in the middle of some sort of market to get his heart going :-D

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    16. Re:Erm.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Ahh, you might just be able to do it. If you write it out, with a 2500 calorie diet, it works out to about 120 watts of power to run a human. :) Not enough for a GTX Ultra, but maybe for a 8600!

    17. Re:Erm.. by CarpetShark · · Score: 1

      tap into our bodies' energy for computers and such. All of a sudden, obesity wouldn't be a problem anymore.


      Either that, or computers will get a whole lot slower ;)
  7. Heart powered pacemaker by aicrules · · Score: 1, Redundant

    wouldn't that be some sort of paradox...

    1. Re:Heart powered pacemaker by rleibman · · Score: 4, Informative

      I'm not sure if you're joking. A pacemaker does not power the heart, what it does is replace the natural pacemaker a healthy heart has, in simple terms, the heart has a bunch of cells in charge of making sure all of the other muscle cells in the heart beat in unison, various causes may make these cells stop working (or working effectively, or their signals breaking down). An artificial pacemaker replaces or enhances the function of these cells. A heart powered pacemaker would work very well indeed, absent a pacemaker heart cells fall out of synch (or pacemaker cells in other parts of the heart take over, again, throwing things out of wack), but they keep on beating, so I imagine vibrations still exist to power this kind of device.

    2. Re:Heart powered pacemaker by LighterShadeOfBlack · · Score: 1

      No. A pacemaker doesn't provide the energy to make the heart pump, it just provides a regular signal to tell the heart to pump.

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    3. Re:Heart powered pacemaker by aicrules · · Score: 1

      You're right. I was thinking of the implanted defibulators. Though it was still a joke. Thank you for the correction.

    4. Re:Heart powered pacemaker by bravo_2_0 · · Score: 1

      Hearts requiring a pacemaker are able to beat on their own. The pacemaker is there to regulate the speed at which the heart beats. Generally because the heart is beating at too slow of a rate on its own. So even a slow heart would still have more than enough vibration to kick start the pacemaker.

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    5. Re:Heart powered pacemaker by vux984 · · Score: 1

      People with pacemakers tend to have issues with the 'beat now' signal reaching their heart at the correct time. They tend to have irregular heartbeats, skip beats, etc.

      The body is already providing all the power that is needed, its just got a signalling problem. The pacemaker merely provides a steady signal.

      In many respects its very similiar to the spark system in a car.

    6. Re:Heart powered pacemaker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it was a paradox who installed the pacemaker.

    7. Re:Heart powered pacemaker by Acrylica · · Score: 2, Funny

      If nothing else, the Heimlich manoeuvre could become a common technique for stopping heart attacks.

  8. The solution to the global energy crisis! by cubicle_cowboy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Attach a few of these to Shakira's rear end and play "Hey Ya!" on repeat.

    Now where's my Nobel prize?

    1. Re:The solution to the global energy crisis! by Dachannien · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'd pay for that even without the additional power generation.

    2. Re:The solution to the global energy crisis! by smithcl8 · · Score: 1

      If there was a Nobel category for "Best Visual Image", it would be yours. Until then, you'll just have to take an Oscar.

  9. animal tracking by WindBourne · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This could be useful for tracking animals. Allow a capacitor to store the energy and when high enough, then give a burst radio signal. Likewise, the moon has a load of tiny trembles that occur. It may be possible to build small sensors and/or radios that make use of that.

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    1. Re:animal tracking by haraldm · · Score: 1

      You sure they will work in the studio?

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      Sure they will. Just rip a tiny piece of tin foil off your hat to wrap around them; it should amplify the signal sufficiently.

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    3. Re:animal tracking by spazekaat · · Score: 0

      Likewise, the moon has a load of tiny trembles that occur. It may be possible to build small sensors and/or radios that make use of that.
      Maybe even an energy source for both Japan and California ???? :-)
  10. Bluetooth mice? by xjerky · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Could a bluetooth mouse take advantage of this, avoiding the need to ever replace batteries again?

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    1. Re:Bluetooth mice? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Bluetooth probably requires too much power. Something like ZigBee might be possible.

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    2. Re:Bluetooth mice? by EnsilZah · · Score: 1

      Heh, took me a while to understand what you meant there.
      I was thinking "Sure it sounds nifty, but what would you actually do with a bluetooth-implanted mouse?".

    3. Re:Bluetooth mice? by f8l_0e · · Score: 1

      You know what? You might be right.

    4. Re:Bluetooth mice? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's f-ing genious. I want one.

    5. Re:Bluetooth mice? by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      For that you need more energy, so you're probably better off using a different technique (e.g. mechanical pendulum, as in Seiko's kinetic watches). Still, it's a great idea!

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    6. Re:Bluetooth mice? by MadUndergrad · · Score: 1

      Ah, beat me to it. Having to replace the batteries in my mouse frequently, I often thing a self-charging wireless mouse would be sweet.

    7. Re:Bluetooth mice? by Joe+Snipe · · Score: 2, Informative
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    8. Re:Bluetooth mice? by Ogive17 · · Score: 1

      I was thinking of my wiimotes.. I'd say there's much more motion involved.

      And even if it didn't completely power the device, I bet they could substantially extend the battery life.

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    9. Re:Bluetooth mice? by Joe+Snipe · · Score: 1

      On the other hand, putting a miniatiure inductive coil inside the center of of a AA battery, for high motion devices might be an interesting idea...

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    10. Re:Bluetooth mice? by I.+C.+Wiener · · Score: 1

      Btw: There are mice w/o batteries, powered in a RFID-esque way: http://hardware.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05 /17/1431200&tid=125

    11. Re:Bluetooth mice? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Keep in mind that while 802.15.4 is transmitting (ZigBee uses this as the underlying radio technology), Bluetooth and 802.15.4 are prety much similar as far as power consumption goes - ZigBee gets any powqer gains from sleeping and not maintaining a baseband signal. For devices with many frequent updates, the battery life difference isn't very much.

      It's only when you get towards low duty cycle things that power savings come out.

    12. Re:Bluetooth mice? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think this has been done before.

    13. Re:Bluetooth mice? by w1d3 · · Score: 1

      Have you checked the difference in estimated battery life of your laptop with and without mouse connected? Mice are too greedy beasts for this..
      Hmm now I realised that mice with balls (non-optical ones I mean, not the male mice) can have much lower power consumption.. so maybe it's not that bad idea. Who needs these optical mice anyway..

    14. Re:Bluetooth mice? by sfarmstrong · · Score: 1

      Hmm. This never occurred to me before. Ironically, the motion of a trackball could be a good source of power for a wireless mouse. The ball's movement could also be part of a "wake-up" function to turn on an LED or tracking laser.

      Soon the day may come when your wireless 4000 DPI laser mouse has a non-tracking trackball for power. I wonder how many people will misunderstand the purpose of the trackball and try and clean it in order to fix mouse performance.

      (I wonder - should I should claim IP rights on this thing?)

  11. What if... by otacon · · Score: 4, Funny

    You could make it bigger and adapt it to a car, the car vibrates as it goes down the road, in turn powering the device that allows it to go down the road...Perpetual motion automobile...I'd like my Nobel Prize now please...

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    1. Re:What if... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Plus, if you ever ram into another vehicle on the road, you can get away with it by saying, "I was just trying to optimize your power generator output."

    2. Re:What if... by suv4x4 · · Score: 1

      You could make it bigger and adapt it to a car, the car vibrates as it goes down the road, in turn powering the device that allows it to go down the road...Perpetual motion automobile...I'd like my Nobel Prize now please...

      Well, good thing that Nobel prizes are not given by those who modded you interesting, but I get the joke.

    3. Re:What if... by Kuvter · · Score: 1

      You could make it bigger and adapt it to a car, the car vibrates as it goes down the road, in turn powering the device that allows it to go down the road...Perpetual motion automobile...I'd like my Nobel Prize now please... You'd just need to pull a Little Miss Sunshine to start up the car.
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    4. Re:What if... by Nexcis · · Score: 1

      At about 75 mph Ill bet my car could generate a Megawatt of power.

    5. Re:What if... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You could make it bigger and adapt it to a car, the car vibrates as it goes down the road, in turn powering the device that allows it to go down the road...Perpetual motion automobile...I'd like my Nobel Prize now please...
      Oh great, yet another excuse for the state of disrepair of city streets.
    6. Re:What if... by WeblionX · · Score: 1

      It's not perpetual motion, you just need to push it down a very large hill to start...

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    7. Re:What if... by kaizokuace · · Score: 1

      gotta set it up to produce 1.21 JIGAwatts!

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      Getting it up the hill in the first place is a bitch, though. Marketing will just gloss over that fact ;)

  12. Re:yeah but... by woodchip · · Score: 0

    And this perpetual motion machine... it just keeps on going faster and faster.

  13. Uses in bigger projects by fadilnet · · Score: 0

    The first thing that came to mind when I read this article was the application of many of these small generators to be used in bigger projects. Did you ever watch The Core (Movie - )? Well, we're far away from getting to get to centre of the Earth but this tech. could be used on drilling platforms as a secondary power backup for sensors, or in space/planet exploration (these could help heating up robots when the solar panels are not getting rays of the sun for long periods). Granted it's not perpetual but it's still a very good technological development.

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  14. Similar tech on the market now by dharbee · · Score: 1

    www.enocean.com

    By the way, if anyone has used any of their stuff yet, let me know.

  15. Re:palsy by Forge · · Score: 1

    Maybe he saw a or something.

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  16. Reliability? by Jaaay · · Score: 1

    For viability in the world the important thing will be if this stays running in all conditions without a failure rate. Batteries are old technology but the one thing that keeps them in everything is that they have good reliability, a watch battery will last for years and then be thrown out into a landfill and replaced for example. It might not be good for the environment like this but it's the only option unless this can work. Still looks like fascinating technology, it'd just be interesting to know how close this is technologically to killing the advantages of batteries which the article doesn't seem to have any details on.

  17. Headline double-take by HangingChad · · Score: 4, Funny

    Did anyone besides me first read that as: Tiny Generator Runs Off Vibrators ?

    Or was that just me?

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    1. Re:Headline double-take by Tx · · Score: 1

      "Tiny Vibrator Runs Off Generator" - too small to fit a battery in.

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  18. Re:palsy by Forge · · Score: 1

    ohm. bad link. etc...

    Maybe he saw a movie or something.

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  19. Ladies.... by 2Bits · · Score: 1, Funny

    ... You now get perpetual free power for your vibrator, woohoo! We boys still have to do hand cranking, woooo....

  20. Finally! by ParticleMan911 · · Score: 0

    "It shows promise as an alternative to batteries for applications where frequent battery replacement would not be feasible." Perfect for the iPhone!

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  21. I'm pickin' up good vibrations by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

    Gotta keep those lovin' good
    Vibrations a happenin' with her.

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  22. HAHAHA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When I first glanced @ this headline, I saw "Tiny vibrator runs off of generator".. ROFFLE

  23. my mom's watch has been doing that for years by v1 · · Score: 1

    nothing new here? She has one of those 'self-winding' watches. ok maybe that's recovering mechanical energy from movement but this is recovering electrical energy from vibration, not a whole lot of difference really.

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  24. I'd like to try this out... by bilgebag · · Score: 1

    to get energy from the vibrations of raindrops. Seems like a source of renewable energy we're missing out on, and in the UK it's somewhat more plentiful than solar and more practical in urban environments than wind...

    1. Re:I'd like to try this out... by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Or embedded in roads. side walks, floors, shoes, speaker cabinet.

      I tiny bit of energy from millions of places.

      Now, if they can get them to work wit atomic vibration, are poeer problems will be solved.

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    2. Re:I'd like to try this out... by Control+Group · · Score: 1

      Yep. Then we can use the vast power we generate from atomic vibrations to reheat the planet we've just cooled to 4 Kelvin. But the beauty of it is that when we cool the planet down like that, the gorillas simply freeze to death!

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  25. It works great! My new iPhone is powered by BrentRJones · · Score: 1

    by my jaw muscles as I chew gum. But I have to chew very quickly to make the music loud enough to hear.

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  26. Vibrators by CrazyKen · · Score: 2, Funny

    At this rate, it won't be long until we have self-sustaining vibrators that don't require batteries.

  27. Answer to 3. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Setup a website, showing videos of Researchers wives generating localised vibrations

  28. lame! by abes · · Score: 4, Funny

    This is stupid. We already have better technology that can constantly produce clean infinite energy based off of the variances in the magnetic fields. I've read about it in three tech web sites!

    The only reason this article could make the pagers of /. is because the editors are bias and being paid off.

    1. Re:lame! by abes · · Score: 2, Funny

      Sorry, I forgot the sarcasm tags. Sometimes I get used to talking to normal people. The thing is, even if the humor was beyond your grasp, or even if you didn't find it funny, there's really no reason to be a dumbass about it.

  29. Power my car by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How about embedding these things into the road to supply energy to electric cars?

  30. Exciting news. by streetphantom · · Score: 1

    The wind up radio could become a thing of the past. However, if this technology were to be used in the one laptop per child project, would patent royalties also have to be paid to EtchaSketch?

  31. There's your perpetual motion machine... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    creators imagine it could be used in devices such as pacemakers, where the beating of the heart would produce ample movement to power the magnetic mechanism ... which in turn, powers the heart.

    1. Re:There's your perpetual motion machine... by arootbeer · · Score: 1

      Hrmm, I think there's a hole in your plan...

      Yes...the "mouth", through which energy enters the body.

      We _are_ closer to the world of The Matrix, though!

  32. HeeChee Base Discovered! by Stinking+Pig · · Score: 1
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  33. Seiko by phorm · · Score: 1

    I've got one on right now. It's an old Seiko, which used to be my grandfather's. If I wear it for the day, then usually it manages to have enough juice/wind to sit on my nightstand when I hit the sack and yet still be keeping correct time in the morning. If I sleep in it usually runs out of juice and stops.

    I'm not sure if it runs on an electric (charging a capacitor) or mechanical (winding a spring) principal though, and as curious as I have been I wouldn't want to pull it apart to find out.

  34. Hmmm by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 1

    Just out of curiosity, how much seismic vibration do you get out of the earth on a typical day? What if you had a huge version of this concept that harnessed power from earth vibration? (say, you had a HUGE weight suspended between springs, and the relative motion of the weight and the earth would generate power?)

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    1. Re:Hmmm by a-zarkon! · · Score: 1

      If I could harness the vibration from my incessant leg-bouncing/foot-tapping I could probably power my laptop. Vicious cycle though - laptop use induces caffeine consumption which in turn creates twitchy bouncing which in turn provides power for further laptop use. (I'm sure this will probably eventually lead to previously mentioned pacemaker.)

  35. Advance this tech a few years... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To the point where it is very efficient. Let's say I have a speaker putting out sound (vibrations) that one of these devices in range can pick up on and create/store energy from. Do the laws of conservation of energy (or whatever they are) apply to sound? I'm sure they do... What I'm getting at is... could you (in the future where this tech is fairly efficient) put hundreds if not thousands of these devices somewhere in range of a speaker and produce more energy from the soundwave/vibration 'caughgt' than it took to generate the sound itself (IE, impossible perpetual energy)? Would a field of 100s to 1000s of these devices 'dampen' the surrounding acoustics, acting as a 'sound sponge'?

    Of course, you could always set a net of these devices near a waterfall and get them to produce energy as well (Niagra Falls, anyone?).

    Thoughts? Is this too far out there or am I just forgetting some basic high school physics?

    1. Re:Advance this tech a few years... by lenester · · Score: 1

      Would a field of 100s to 1000s of these devices 'dampen' the surrounding acoustics, acting as a 'sound sponge'?

      Hey, I can finally justify the cost of soundproofing my apartment!

    2. Re:Advance this tech a few years... by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      I guess airports would be a great place to put those devices. After all, airplanes make a lot of noise ...

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  36. 60% or 90% by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    about 50-60% for polycrystalline (PZT4, PZT5, PZT8 etc), 90% for monocrystalline.

  37. Practical Usage?? by Crock23A · · Score: 1

    How much energy can this possibly make? Am I the only person thinking this would make a great way to power the Wii Remote? The rumble (vibrations) sucks down batteries like no electronic device I've ever owned. Even if the rumble couldn't do it, flailing around like an idiot when I'm playing Wii Sports should be able to generate something.

  38. maufacturing energy costs? by turtledawn · · Score: 1

    This is really cool, but can you ever recapture the amount of energy used to manufacture them? They'd still be better than batteries for a lot of things, though.

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  39. Why not... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Micheal J. Fox and/or Janet Reno powered submarines?

    Anyone?

  40. Sound? by olddotter · · Score: 1

    Other than a microphone anyone got ideas for ways to convert sound into electricity? This device seems like it would hit the mark. I had an idea once that I figured would made a good back ground for a SCI-FI novel. Generators that produced power while assorbing annoying background noise. For example line highways with them to produce power while cutting down on noise polution.

    1. Re:Sound? by CubicleView · · Score: 1

      I'm no sound engineer or anything but offhand I can't think of anything that converts sound directly into electricity without the mechanical movement/vibration of something in between, usually a diaphragm like in your microphone example. Sound doesn't actually carry that much energy (and it generally disperses very quickly). The common example of just how little, is that it would required something like 10 years worth of yelling, to heat one cup of coffee. So all I can think of to dampen the sound would be to have as large and dense a diaphragm (I think it would probably have to be very soft as well to stop the sound bouncing, but I dunno) as possible to capture as much of the sound energy as possible and then using that energy to create a counter sound wave that cancels out any remaining sound.

  41. It required a huge breakthrough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, but those are US watches. Now the UK can begin making them too.

    You mean they finally found a way to make a watch leak oil? Good show, Brits!

  42. As previously seen on /. in April... by Khopesh · · Score: 1
    Georgia Tech Unveils Prototype Nanogenerator, Journal written by Randolpho (628485) and posted by CowboyNeal on Wed Apr 11, '07 01:47 PM.

    Researchers at Georgia Institute of Technology have created a working prototype nanogenerator capable of generating as much as 4 watts per cubic centimeter of continuous direct current. The generators are green (to use), drawing power from natural motion in the surrounding environment. They are based on non-toxic chemicals and should be safe for use in biomechanical implants, but that's not their only potential use.
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  43. Wii Mote? by Tainek · · Score: 1

    Somebody had to say it....

  44. Prior art by Skapare · · Score: 1

    Prior art is actually patent 5,578,877. It's just bigger.

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  45. Thermoacoustics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You should google "thermoacoustics"

  46. great for my wiimotes by lashi · · Score: 1

    The 1st thing I thought of for this was, 'great, never have to change battery on my wiimotes again.' Can't wait for this to go into production. Now the important question, how about voltage? can they package this into a AAA or AA form and still get the required voltage?

  47. Free Energy by Wilson_6500 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There's plenty of free energy out there. The problem is coaxing thermodynamics to let us have it.

    1. Re:Free Energy by lessermilton · · Score: 1

      Damn you, Thermodynamics!!!

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  48. Beowulf Cluster anyone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

  49. Picturing this by Dasher42 · · Score: 1

    "Cell phone's halfway charged. Keep jumping on the bed, kids!"

  50. Contrary to physical law? by rehtonAesoohC · · Score: 0, Redundant

    but its creators imagine it could be used in devices such as pacemakers, where the beating of the heart would produce ample movement to power the magnetic mechanism

    Wouldn't this be contrary to the law of conservation of energy that states that energy cannot be created? IE- The heart beats, producing enough energy to power the pacemaker, which in turn produces enough energy to power the heart, which in turn produces enough energy to power the pacemaker... etc?
    1. Re:Contrary to physical law? by Torvaun · · Score: 1

      Pacemakers don't beat the heart, they just tell the heart when to beat. If the heart can't beat on its own, you don't get a pacemaker, you get a transplant. Or a large pine box.

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    2. Re:Contrary to physical law? by DragonTHC · · Score: 1

      no, idiot. The big mac you just ate was converted into energy to beat your heart.

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  51. The heart isn't the only vibration by Dekortage · · Score: 1

    In a pacemaker the beating of the human heart would be strong enough to keep the magnets inside the device wobbling.

    It's interesting that just the heart's beating would be strong enough to work. If this assumes the rest of the body is motionless, then even more electrical output is possible. Many people with pacemakers are still active physically -- walking around, riding in cars, having sex, etc. -- so, more vibration energy!

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  52. anyone else thinking... by cjdkoh · · Score: 1

    ...this would be great for rechargable batteries for your wiimotes?

    as is custom on /. i have not read the article, but i assume that currently these don't provide enough power for that purpose, and by the time they do, wii will be old.

  53. Beats self-winding pacemakers! by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1
    tiny generator that uses local vibrations ... could be used in devices such as pacemakers

    Hmmm, "local vibrations"? However you slice *that* sounds better than the current generation of "self-winding" pacemakers which require you to rotate end-over-end for an hour each day!

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  54. Re:palsy by utopianfiat · · Score: 1

    cue the fox jokes, I'll start

    For Michael J. Fox, shake and bake is a one-step process.
    Because he has parkinsons.

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  55. Re:Interesting, but not really new by Rheingold · · Score: 1

    They've already got those. They call us "men".

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  56. a Dr.? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    by a Dr. David Prutchi PhD


    One of them? Just how many Dr. David Prutchi PhD's are there?
    1. Re:a Dr.? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did anyone else read the headline as "Tiny Generator Runs Off Vibrators"?

  57. Craptastic press release. by Ancient_Hacker · · Score: 1
    We've had generators that work off vibrations for like, over 100 years. They're called "microphones", or "phono cartridges". And yes, they do generate microwatts. A yell into a crystal microphone can put out almost a volt into 100K, thats 1 / 10^5 or 10 microwatts.

    I don't see much application for this-- very few circuits can run on microwatts.

    1. Re:Craptastic press release. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or, instead of deciding what the article says, you could go read the damn article.

      Microphones are different, you ass.

  58. Good Vibrations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Gotta keep those lovin good vibrations
    A happenin with her
    Gotta keep those lovin good vibrations
    A happenin with her
    Gotta keep those lovin good vibrations
    A happenin
    Beach Boys

    If she can be covered with these devices too and produce extra power for running other things then they might really be useful. Someone want to file for the research grant and start signing up volunteers for testing? This could bring new popularity and meaning to the old Beach Boys tune.
  59. Re:palsy by Daath · · Score: 1

    Bad link. Yes. A glitch in the matrix, no doubt.

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  60. Re:mmm, smells like chicken by Random832 · · Score: 1

    [This post was removed for violating Slashdot's Terms of Service.] Um... is this some kind of hoax? I've _never_ seen this happen before. Is this the beginning of the end of slashdot's moderation system?
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  61. Didn't Tesla have one of these? by Bushido+Hacks · · Score: 1

    Hopefully, the guy who makes these things has to good sense to post the plans on the Internet.

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    1. Re:Didn't Tesla have one of these? by SlowMovingTarget · · Score: 1

      Edison: I know, we'll make the current alternate.

      Lab assistant: Tesla already did that.

      Edison: Well... OK, how about this... We run these high frequency rays through people onto film plates and get pictures from it.

      Assistant: Tesla did that too.

      E: What? Oh, OK. Ummm... I know we'll build a big lightning generator that shoots lots of electric sparks all over the place!

      A: Tesla did that a couple times.

      E: Damn it! Is there anything Tesla didn't do? Wait! I know! We'll replace all the cherries in chocolate covered cherries with two-month-old mayonnaise! Yeah! Did Tesla do that?

      A: Uhh... No. But I think Tesla would be more clever about it.

  62. Re:palsy by utopianfiat · · Score: 1

    Screw this, I'm out like Michael J. Fox in a game of Jenga.

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  63. Can I Get One Over Here in Iraq? by superslacker87 · · Score: 1

    I'm tired of refueling mine every night. I smell like diesel for hours!

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  64. You mean like? by cat_jesus · · Score: 1

    Make an array about a quarter of a mile long, fifty feet wide and four feet thick and then float it in the ocean? There is constant motion there and floating is relatively easy.

    Why one of you math geeks figure out how much energy that would produce per day.

    1. Re:You mean like? by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      You are thinking about something like this?

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  65. Perpetual motion? by Mastedon · · Score: 1

    I guess this makes a vibrator a perpetual motion machine. Imagine, entire cities powered by women getting off.

    It's right up there with The Simpson's vision of harvesting oil from the faces of teenagers. Genius, pure genius.

  66. Re:palsy by PitaBred · · Score: 2, Funny

    That's only for déjà vu

  67. Vibrations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But, man, like, are they good vibrations, like a Beach Boys song, or are they bad vibrations, like the Dark Side of the Force? It might make all the ethical difference.

    "Leia, can I borrow your vibrator to charge my lightsaber?"

  68. Re:palsy by PitaBred · · Score: 2, Funny

    That`s only for déjà vu

  69. iPods and iPhones batteries by Macgrrl · · Score: 1

    So, Apple have been trying to change the mindset regarding user changerable batteries for the iPods and iPhones - these generators would address the issue once and for all - assuming they retain rotaional HDAs for the primary storage. Solid state wouldn't provide the vibration required to charge up the generator.

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  70. Computer mice seem like the perfect use for this. by ourcraft · · Score: 0

    What else needs to be said? Oh i copyright and patent and trademark this for Public use with no limitations or whatever needs to be said to prevent people and companies from trying to make money off this obvious use for small electronic devices. Battery that charges by clicking and/or moving a mouse to drive the mouse, easy simple.

  71. Re:palsy by Dannon · · Score: 1

    +1 Redundant?

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  72. "Tiny Generator Runs Off Vibrations" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So does my wife.

  73. Re:palsy by Skrynkelberg · · Score: 1

    Woosh!










    Woosh!

  74. Re:mmm, smells like chicken by xerxesdaphat · · Score: 1

    You, sir, are a genius. Notice it links straight to Sourceforge's terms of service? In fact, the word `sourceforge.com' is written right next the link, in usual Slashdot style.

    Why would you believe it's anything other than a troll in the first place?

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  75. Re:mmm, smells like chicken by Random832 · · Score: 1

    It didn't appear next to it for me, and even if it had, that might not indicate that it wasn't just acting on the content of the post as edited by an editor - and, it _is_ the same link that's at the bottom of the page under "terms of service". Slashdot is owned by Sourceforge, didn't you know?

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  76. Be still my beating, self-powered heart by cosinezero · · Score: 1

    Hell, I wouldn't even need a pacemaker to power.