Depends on who put it there, and what was told her about it.
Of course, assuming that someone else put it on there and said something like "yeah, download what you want, its all free, no worries" only really means that the installer is also liable ( not liable instead of ).
Except for the Navy and the math, that sounds a bit like me.
I was in a math/computer science magnet school, I learned the language we would be learning next year during the year before ( after the first year, that is ), then annoyed the teachers while the "instructed" me. One teacher had a problem with getting the syntax exactly right on the board, so I "helped" her with that. I think she hated me.
Your points are excellent, and match my thoughts on the subject fairly well.
My response was a quick one for the person who thought it appropriate to charge everyone something extra over every issue. I agree that there are some things that it is appropriate to pay a premium over. I would prefer that those premiums be on issues having to do with personal choice, rather than random chance of genetics.
Then why have insurance? The medical providers will charge higher for high risk ( when something happens ), and lower for low risk ( when something doesnt happen ) automatically.
I had always thought that the point of insurance was to spread the risk of an incident over a large number of people, and over a large period of time.
If the issue were technical capabilities or real market demand, I would agree with you.
Other country's infrastructure proves the issue is not technical. The speed of service in other countries implies to me that the issue is not real market demand.
I think the issue is monopoly/cartel behaviour from the telcos, and I don't think it is good. (on Digital Penis envy, how and why others chose the products and services they chose is their own business. Or should we disallow Hummers and Cadillacs, et al, because they are simple conspicuous consumption?)
"Well, I have a hard time seeing them copying bittorrent as "respecting IP". Why? Is bittorrent patented? Did they copy the source code and violate the license its distributed under?"
I don't know.
"I believe its under the MIT license, so its BSD style. Thats even assuming they looked at the code, and just didnt implement a well-understood idea."
I am not saying they did anything illegal, my point is that
for all the rhetoric about "respecting IP", they didn't
( so, what does that mean? Well, they could ask the author if
they mind it being reimplemented. And yes, I understand they
may not have been legally required to do so, depending on the
copyright and licensing issues, but there is still a touch of
the hypocritical to just lift it, in my opinion. But I recognize
that my take on this is not standard ).
"In general, in this industry, there are very few genuinely new things. Everyone stands on the shoulders of those who've gone before. If you really believe what you're saying, then you'd never support development of an concept that has ever been thought of before."
I think you mistake me. I recognize well that there are few truly new things.
But that is me, see, I am not out patenting things and putting stuff in the
media about how others don't respect my IP. Microsoft is doing both, and I
was just pointing out what I see as hypocritical.
"In fact, I believe the basic concept used by Bram Cohen had made the rounds in academia before. Does that make Bittorrent bad?"
Depends on how Messr. Cohen got to implementation. If he took a bunch of ideas from
people in academia and implemented it without regard to how the people with the
original idea thought about it, I would have the same issues.
How about employers that decide to close down the company, dont tell any of the employees, cancel the automatic payments late, such that some go thru ( and are reversed, milliseconds later ), and some dont. Yep, they used the "we claim the right to correct errors automatically" clause with a "we didn't mean to pay you the money you had earned and we owned you, cause we need it to keep the company going, never mind we mismanaged things to get to this point, and some of you have forgone pay to make ends meet".
And to your nick, you cant be homeless in La Jolla, the police wont allow it.
Outlook 2007 puts all the emails that you flag for follow-up in a list in the "todo" bar. Makes them easy to find, reminds you there are there. That is the one thing I have found.
I recommend against developers upgrading to 2007, if you use.net 2003, as it seems to have broken things for me. Or try it on a test machine, make sure things work after.
Outlook 2007 now puts any emails you flag for follow-up in a neat list in your "todo" bar. So you don't have to go look for them. Sorted by any date you might have put on them when you flagged them.
Now, for that, I lost the ability to
1: use the file dialog in.net 2003 application I am working on. 2: print to the "Microsoft document imaging printer".
If I try to do either, my application immediately leaves the "run" state in the debugger, and I am back to "design". No exception thrown. No event log message. Just dead.
Why is the minority of slashdot so pro-microsoft that they cant hear criticism of Microsoft without feeling a need to label the people making the criticism as "whiny 15 year olds...".
The issue ( and it seems a valid one to me ) is twofold
1: Microsoft talks about how innovative they are, but they don't
invent things, they copy. And this is an example of it.
2: Microsoft talks about "respecting IP" and how open source people
dont respect it. Well, I have a hard time seeing them copying
bittorrent as "respecting IP". If there are patents or copyrights
in place and no licensing agreement, then that really crosses the line.
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So, join the ACLU once, and join the NRA twice. The second
membership will cancel your ACLU membership in the gun arena.
Depends on who put it there, and what was told her about it.
Of course, assuming that someone else put it on there and said
something like "yeah, download what you want, its all free, no
worries" only really means that the installer is also liable
( not liable instead of ).
Except for the Navy and the math, that sounds a bit like me.
I was in a math/computer science magnet school, I learned the
language we would be learning next year during the year before
( after the first year, that is ), then annoyed the teachers
while the "instructed" me. One teacher had a problem with
getting the syntax exactly right on the board, so I "helped"
her with that. I think she hated me.
If he had programmed a girl robot, would he have time
for slashdot? Come on! Think!
That is what he said!
A: How do you figure he averted a third world war?
B: Assuming he did, do the ends justify the means?
( can I rob 7-11's, if all the money goes into
the collection plate? )
Every language that has been conjured to try to match this "compactness"
idea ends up reducing it's usefulness in solving problems.
Your points are excellent, and match my thoughts on the subject fairly well.
My response was a quick one for the person who thought it appropriate to charge
everyone something extra over every issue. I agree that there are some things
that it is appropriate to pay a premium over. I would prefer that those premiums
be on issues having to do with personal choice, rather than random chance of
genetics.
My most abject apologies. I stand corrected.
Then why have insurance? The medical providers will charge higher
for high risk ( when something happens ), and lower for low risk
( when something doesnt happen ) automatically.
I had always thought that the point of insurance was to spread the
risk of an incident over a large number of people, and over a large
period of time.
Not specific enough. Just batch files!
Ahem.. Ah, your, ah, sig, as it were, is not conforming.
A small matter, I am sure.
AI want to start a new sentence. Aso, I need a capital A.
AI did not know that. AI'm glad you were here to point that out!
Abye.
APS:, AWhy didn't your sentence start with a capital A?
If the issue were technical capabilities or real market demand, I would agree with you.
Other country's infrastructure proves the issue is not technical. The speed of service
in other countries implies to me that the issue is not real market demand.
I think the issue is monopoly/cartel behaviour from the telcos, and I don't think it is
good. (on Digital Penis envy, how and why others chose the products and services they
chose is their own business. Or should we disallow Hummers and Cadillacs, et al, because
they are simple conspicuous consumption?)
You forgot a signal.
SIGHUP234.
Send SIGCHLD, and they start mining raw materials in order
to make the next generation.
Well, hello, Mr Whitacre,
I didn't think you liked slashdot.
We actually have a new product wherein you both buy and sell short all of the
associated stocks, ensuring a fabulous return no matter what!
"Well, I have a hard time seeing them copying bittorrent as "respecting IP".
Why? Is bittorrent patented? Did they copy the source code and violate the license its distributed under?"
I don't know.
"I believe its under the MIT license, so its BSD style. Thats even assuming they looked at the code, and just didnt implement a well-understood idea."
I am not saying they did anything illegal, my point is that
for all the rhetoric about "respecting IP", they didn't
( so, what does that mean? Well, they could ask the author if
they mind it being reimplemented. And yes, I understand they
may not have been legally required to do so, depending on the
copyright and licensing issues, but there is still a touch of
the hypocritical to just lift it, in my opinion. But I recognize
that my take on this is not standard ).
"In general, in this industry, there are very few genuinely new things. Everyone stands on the shoulders of those who've gone before. If you really believe what you're saying, then you'd never support development of an concept that has ever been thought of before."
I think you mistake me. I recognize well that there are few truly new things.
But that is me, see, I am not out patenting things and putting stuff in the
media about how others don't respect my IP. Microsoft is doing both, and I
was just pointing out what I see as hypocritical.
"In fact, I believe the basic concept used by Bram Cohen had made the rounds in academia before. Does that make Bittorrent bad?"
Depends on how Messr. Cohen got to implementation. If he took a bunch of ideas from
people in academia and implemented it without regard to how the people with the
original idea thought about it, I would have the same issues.
They did, in fact, do this to a large group of people.
Corp office in VA, some of us were in CA, some in WA, some
others various other places.
And yes, they got took to court over it, and ended up having
to make good, but it took about 2 years before I got mine.
How about employers that decide to close down the company,
dont tell any of the employees, cancel the automatic payments
late, such that some go thru ( and are reversed, milliseconds
later ), and some dont. Yep, they used the "we claim the
right to correct errors automatically" clause with a
"we didn't mean to pay you the money you had earned and
we owned you, cause we need it to keep the company going,
never mind we mismanaged things to get to this point, and
some of you have forgone pay to make ends meet".
And to your nick, you cant be homeless in La Jolla,
the police wont allow it.
Outlook 2007 puts all the emails that you flag for follow-up
.net 2003,
in a list in the "todo" bar. Makes them easy to find,
reminds you there are there. That is the one thing I have
found.
I recommend against developers upgrading to 2007, if you use
as it seems to have broken things for me. Or try it on a test
machine, make sure things work after.
Outlook 2007 now puts any emails you flag for follow-up in a neat
.net 2003 application I am working on.
list in your "todo" bar. So you don't have to go look for them.
Sorted by any date you might have put on them when you flagged them.
Now, for that, I lost the ability to
1: use the file dialog in
2: print to the "Microsoft document imaging printer".
If I try to do either, my application immediately leaves the
"run" state in the debugger, and I am back to "design".
No exception thrown. No event log message. Just dead.
Why is the minority of slashdot so pro-microsoft that they cant hear criticism of Microsoft without
feeling a need to label the people making the criticism as "whiny 15 year olds...".
The issue ( and it seems a valid one to me ) is twofold
1: Microsoft talks about how innovative they are, but they don't
invent things, they copy. And this is an example of it.
2: Microsoft talks about "respecting IP" and how open source people
dont respect it. Well, I have a hard time seeing them copying
bittorrent as "respecting IP". If there are patents or copyrights
in place and no licensing agreement, then that really crosses the line.
He was hiding in the tanks?
Corporations... Casinos.... What is the difference? :-)