If *you* had fun playing a game, it was good. PERIOD.
I had a co-worker who played Evercrack. I couldn't stand the game, due to the mechanics. After wasting a few years playing it, he finally realized it wasn't a "good" game, due to it's game mechanics. I told him, "If you had fun playing it, it was a GOOD game [for you], else why did you enjoy playing it for so long?!"
> Reading the Old Testament certianly leaves the non-believer with the impression that Yahweh has the attitudes and manners of a spoiled, sadistic child.
Are you ignorant of what allegory means?
Gal 4 (NIV) "21 Tell me, you who want to be under the law, are you not aware of what the law says? 22For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by the slave woman and the other by the free woman. 23 His son by the slave woman was born in the ordinary way; but his son by the free woman was born as the result of a promise. 24 These things may be taken figuratively, for the women represent two covenants."
In the words of St. Augustine: "What the apostle says pertains to this problem: 'For the letter killeth, but the spirit quickeneth', that is, when that which is said figuratively is taken as though it were literal, it is understood carnally. Nor can anything more appropriately be called the death of the soul than that condition in which the thing which distinguishes us from beasts, which is the understanding, is subjected to the flesh in the pursuit of the letter. He who follows the letter takes figurative expressions as though they were literal and does not refer the things signified to anything else"
Origen wrote in De Principiis
"Where the word found that things done according to the history could be adapted to these mystical senses, he made use of them concealing from the multitude the deeper meaning; but where in the narrative of the development of super-sensual things, there did not follow the performance of those certain events which were already indicated by the mystical meaning, the scripture interwove in the history the account of some event that did not take place, sometimes what could not have happened; sometimes what could but did not."
and "But all the narrative portion, relating either to the marriages, or to the begetting of the children, or to battles of different kinds, or to any other histories whatever, what else can they be supposed to be, save the forms and figures of hidden and sacred things? As men, however, make little effort to exercise their intellect, or imagine that they possess knowledge before they really learn, the consequence is that they never begin to have knowledge; or if there be no want of a desire, at least, nor of an instructor, and if divine knowledge be sought after, as it ought to be, in a religious and Holy Spirit, and in the hope that many points will be opened up by the revelation of God -- since to human sense they are exceedingly difficult and obscure -- then, perhaps, he who seeks in such a manner will find what it is lawful to discover".
> Organized religion is typically based upon faith -- which is not, and will never be independantly verifyable (hence the subjective).
Faith is just knowledge unlived. Once you experience it, either a) Your belief was wrong, or b) It becomes fact.
But you will never know until you DO experience.
> This being said, religion, politics, philosophy, and science are decidely not the same thing. I'm not sure where you're getting that from. These things are all abstractions of another (except for politics -- maybe you're equating this with religion as another form of control over the masses). Having similar origins does not equate anything.
You can take people out of politics, but you can't take politics out of people. Why is that? Because politics is nothing more then belief in action.
Seperating why people act, believe in their morals, or how and why the universe exists is a dangerous stance.
> On the contrary, religion has consistently denounced science through time, Yes, unfortunately both sides continue to mud-sling the propagranda
that these two are mutually-exclusive.
> If we accepted theory as fact without any repeatable testing it would be religion, not science.
Science IS a Religion. Don't believe me?
The goal of Science is Truth. The goal of (pure) Religion is ALSO Truth.
Science is SO blinded by their Dogma of Objectivity, that while it is busy worshipping at the Altar of Truth, it denies that Truth can ALSO be reached Subjectively. That is, there is knowledge OUTSIDE of science. Some people call this meta-physical (or spiritual) truth. Just because you can't experience something, doesn't mean it's not true. And the real kicker is, that for each person, Science is experienced Subjectively via the 5 senses!
Remember that Truth is both Absolute, and Relative. To ignore (or deny) the opposite (objective/subjective), is to deny knowledge.
Religion, Politics, Philosophy (Science) are all the SAME thing. It just depends on what paradigm you approach it from. - If you were offended, then maybe you shouldn't of been. And if you weren't, maybe you should of been!!
I'm so tired of people bitching about a "broken" game economy, when they don't have a clue what a game designer is all about.
They speak of game balance, as if the game is a zero sum function, when it is not, no matter how hard you try. All MMORPGs, are *designed*, either directly, or indirectly, so that player's wealth gradually increase. How? Because players put their TIME into the game, and the game allows for players to convert their time into game wealth. This is a reason MMORPG tend to follow the instant gratification, and the materialism of "No Risk, No Reward"
So nerf the reward? If there is no reward, what is the incentive to play? It no longer becomes a game in the tradional sense, because what is the goal then? You can't have a game without a goal! True, you can make a game out of ANY situation, but MMORPGs players don't just want a gloried chat sessions -- they want to experience things together with others.
ANY game will have 1 or more of these core principles:
This map shows that the universe is both accelerating and decelerating at the same time? How is this possible? (Last I heard, the universe was expanding, and the rate of expansion was accelerating.)
> Well, that's a very arguable topic. Do you REALLY have the right to "privacy". Certainly no such right is enumerated in the Constitution or Bill of Rights.
Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
I accidently oppend a 2 Gig binary file in Notepad on my XP box with 512 Megs Ram, and 1 Gig pagefile.
The results weren't pretty.
Ok, so this is the worst kind of thrashing possible for an OS to deal with, but we're talking over 15 minutes just to "shutdown/reboot"
At least the memory leaks in (XP) NT are getting smaller.
What would it take to have '~' ACTUALLY work in Windows? I mean completely transparent underneath applications. REAL linking would be a godsend as well.
> Since your uid is about half of mine, I guess I can't call you a n00b.
We were ALL beginners at some point, said he with the userid 1/6th of yours.
> I think this is one of the ironies of internet communication -- in an environment which supposedly promotes universal communication, people only seem to communicate in enclaves of like minds, reinforcing each other's narrow world views.
That happens in ANY organization. e.g. Company, Church, etc.
> Firstly, what should and shouldn't be is irrelevant in the real world. Idealistic attitudes will get you nowhere but the gutter, and if you don't like it, tough.
Oh please.
By your logic, we shouldn't have laws then. "People shouldn't murder one another. Whoops, that's not relevant in the Real World (TM)".
"I'd rather be idealistic, so people are inspired at what might be, Then be realisic and not have any hope because of what is"
- Poho
The problem is balance. Unbounded idealism is not practical. Overbound realism doesn't provide any motivation for looking for a better solution.
I started with a 2 button MS mouse. Switched over to a 3 button Logitech mouse ("the claw"). It was awesome for fraggin. Logitech's 4 button wasn't as good. Logitech's 5 button (thumb + wheel) was alright. Logitech's MX700 (8 button) rocks.
Never did solve it as a kid, so finally picked up one last year. Took 6 hours straight to solve the 3x3x3. I was kind of hoping for a longer challenge. LOL. The Revenge, and Professor (4x4x4 and 5x5x5) look like to be quite the challenge. Funny enough, the little 2x2x2 was just as tricky.
Speaking of the 2x2x2... does anyone know the total number of permutations for it? I figured it should be = 8! * 3^8, so I have a 3 Gig database of all the cube states, along with a pointer to how to reach it's initial stage. Still writing a 'solver' though.
> Where's the 'right to drive', in the Constitution?
Amendment X The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
Slashdot Mirror
> can you call a game 'good' if nobody plays it?
Good != POPULAR.
If *you* had fun playing a game, it was good. PERIOD.
I had a co-worker who played Evercrack. I couldn't stand the game, due to the mechanics. After wasting a few years playing it, he finally realized it wasn't a "good" game, due to it's game mechanics. I told him, "If you had fun playing it, it was a GOOD game [for you], else why did you enjoy playing it for so long?!"
IAAGP&D (I Am A Game Programmer and Designer)
> Reading the Old Testament certianly leaves the non-believer with the impression that Yahweh has the attitudes and manners of a spoiled, sadistic child.
Are you ignorant of what allegory means?
Gal 4 (NIV)
"21 Tell me, you who want to be under the law, are you not aware of what the law says? 22For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by the slave woman and the other by the free woman. 23 His son by the slave woman was born in the ordinary way; but his son by the free woman was born as the result of a promise.
24 These things may be taken figuratively, for the women represent two covenants."
In the words of St. Augustine: "What the apostle says pertains to this problem: 'For the letter killeth, but the spirit quickeneth', that is, when that which is said figuratively is taken as though it were literal, it is understood carnally. Nor can anything more appropriately be called the death of the soul than that condition in which the thing which distinguishes us from beasts, which is the understanding, is subjected to the flesh in the pursuit of the letter. He who follows the letter takes figurative expressions as though they were literal and does not refer the things signified to anything else"
Origen wrote in De Principiis
"Where the word found that things done according to the history could be adapted to these mystical senses, he made use of them concealing from the multitude the deeper meaning; but where in the narrative of the development of super-sensual things, there did not follow the performance of those certain events which were already indicated by the mystical meaning, the scripture interwove in the history the account of some event that did not take place, sometimes what could not have happened; sometimes what could but did not."
and
"But all the narrative portion, relating either to the marriages, or to the begetting of the children, or to battles of different kinds, or to any other histories whatever, what else can they be supposed to be, save the forms and figures of hidden and sacred things? As men, however, make little effort to exercise their intellect, or imagine that they possess knowledge before they really learn, the consequence is that they never begin to have knowledge; or if there be no want of a desire, at least, nor of an instructor, and if divine knowledge be sought after, as it ought to be, in a religious and Holy Spirit, and in the hope that many points will be opened up by the revelation of God -- since to human sense they are exceedingly difficult and obscure -- then, perhaps, he who seeks in such a manner will find what it is lawful to discover".
Peace
"You get what you pay for."
So because your Life was given to you, it has no value either?
> Organized religion is typically based upon faith -- which is not, and will never be independantly verifyable (hence the subjective).
Faith is just knowledge unlived. Once you experience it, either
a) Your belief was wrong, or
b) It becomes fact.
But you will never know until you DO experience.
> This being said, religion, politics, philosophy, and science are decidely not the same thing. I'm not sure where you're getting that from. These things are all abstractions of another (except for politics -- maybe you're equating this with religion as another form of control over the masses). Having similar origins does not equate anything.
You can take people out of politics, but you can't take politics out of people. Why is that? Because politics is nothing more then belief in action.
Seperating why people act, believe in their morals, or how and why the universe exists is a dangerous stance.
> On the contrary, religion has consistently denounced science through time,
Yes, unfortunately both sides continue to mud-sling the propagranda
that these two are mutually-exclusive.
> If we accepted theory as fact without any repeatable testing it would be religion, not science.
Science IS a Religion. Don't believe me?
The goal of Science is Truth. The goal of (pure) Religion is ALSO Truth.
Science is SO blinded by their Dogma of Objectivity, that while it is busy worshipping at the Altar of Truth, it denies that Truth can ALSO be reached Subjectively. That is, there is knowledge OUTSIDE of science. Some people call this meta-physical (or spiritual) truth. Just because you can't experience something, doesn't mean it's not true. And the real kicker is, that for each person, Science is experienced Subjectively via the 5 senses!
Remember that Truth is both Absolute, and Relative. To ignore (or deny) the opposite (objective/subjective), is to deny knowledge.
Religion, Politics, Philosophy (Science) are all the SAME thing. It just depends on what paradigm you approach it from.
-
If you were offended, then maybe you shouldn't of been.
And if you weren't, maybe you should of been!!
No need to be snooty about it.
I found your post to be informative, none-the-less. (i.e. I didn't know the 30 km/s & 12 km/s stats.)
Thank-you for posting.
I was trying to find this book just last month, but I couldn't remember the title, or author. All I remembered was that the cover was red.
Once I saw the cover, I remembered that I use to read the sequel: More Basic Games
IMAGD & IMAGP (I am a game designer & programmer)
I'm so tired of people bitching about a "broken" game economy, when they don't have a clue what a game designer is all about.
They speak of game balance, as if the game is a zero sum function, when it is not, no matter how hard you try. All MMORPGs, are *designed*, either directly, or indirectly, so that player's wealth gradually increase. How? Because players put their TIME into the game, and the game allows for players to convert their time into game wealth. This is a reason MMORPG tend to follow the instant gratification, and the materialism of "No Risk, No Reward"
So nerf the reward? If there is no reward, what is the incentive to play? It no longer becomes a game in the tradional sense, because what is the goal then? You can't have a game without a goal! True, you can make a game out of ANY situation, but MMORPGs players don't just want a gloried chat sessions -- they want to experience things together with others.
ANY game will have 1 or more of these core principles:
- Creation / Nurture
- Destruction
- Cooperation
- Competition
- Communication
- Exploratin
- Navigation
- Pattern Recognition
- Problem Solving / Strategy
- Organization
- Acquisition
- Trade
- Simulation / Complexity
What does EQ (mainly) focus on?
- Acquisition
- Cooperation
- Communication
- Strategy
- Destruction
By mistakingly thinking "money" is the problem, you're missed the whole point of the "goal" of the game: Acquisition
As I said, you can remove the goal of Acquisition, but you need another goal to take it's place.
Peace
Search for "Adobe_Photoshop_CS_Banknote_Patch-TIGER.torrent"
Includes a picture of a US 20 to test if the patch works.
This map shows that the universe is both accelerating and decelerating at the same time? How is this possible? (Last I heard, the universe was expanding, and the rate of expansion was accelerating.)
What is this Great Wall?
> Well, that's a very arguable topic. Do you REALLY have the right to "privacy". Certainly no such right is enumerated in the Constitution or Bill of Rights.
Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
> What more could you want?
And twice the taxes, at half the dollar.
I accidently oppend a 2 Gig binary file in Notepad on my XP box with 512 Megs Ram, and 1 Gig pagefile.
The results weren't pretty.
Ok, so this is the worst kind of thrashing possible for an OS to deal with, but we're talking over 15 minutes just to "shutdown/reboot"
At least the memory leaks in (XP) NT are getting smaller.
What would it take to have '~' ACTUALLY work in Windows? I mean completely transparent underneath applications. REAL linking would be a godsend as well.
> ... a tree falls in the forrest and nobody is there to hear it. does it fall?
And what color is it?
Any laptops using Tranmeta CPUs?
> Since your uid is about half of mine, I guess I can't call you a n00b.
We were ALL beginners at some point, said he with the userid 1/6th of yours.
> I think this is one of the ironies of internet communication -- in an environment which supposedly promotes universal communication, people only seem to communicate in enclaves of like minds, reinforcing each other's narrow world views.
That happens in ANY organization. e.g. Company, Church, etc.
People tend to associate with like-minded people.
> Firstly, what should and shouldn't be is irrelevant in the real world. Idealistic attitudes will get you nowhere but the gutter, and if you don't like it, tough.
Oh please.
By your logic, we shouldn't have laws then. "People shouldn't murder one another. Whoops, that's not relevant in the Real World (TM)".
"I'd rather be idealistic, so people are inspired at what might be,
Then be realisic and not have any hope because of what is"
- Poho
The problem is balance. Unbounded idealism is not practical. Overbound realism doesn't provide any motivation for looking for a better solution.
Peace
> 8 buttons? Wow - what do you do, CAD work?
:)
Nope, its for Diablo 2, BF:1942, and MOHAA
Trust me, in action heavy games, you don't have time to fumble around hitting the right key.
Anyone else wondery why game includes a picture of nVidia's "Dawn" girl?
Screenshot 11
I started with a 2 button MS mouse.
Switched over to a 3 button Logitech mouse ("the claw"). It was awesome for fraggin.
Logitech's 4 button wasn't as good.
Logitech's 5 button (thumb + wheel) was alright.
Logitech's MX700 (8 button) rocks.
Not every game uses the PS2 to watch DVDs. Or XBox's either.
The point is, 20+ million people using consoles to watch DVDs seems reasonable.
> This does not include Game systems that also play dvds, which add another 20 million players to the above total
In case anyone is wondering where the 20 million comes from, the PS2 has sold over 50 million units, as of Feb/Mar 2003.
Never did solve it as a kid, so finally picked up one last year. Took 6 hours straight to solve the 3x3x3. I was kind of hoping for a longer challenge. LOL. The Revenge, and Professor (4x4x4 and 5x5x5) look like to be quite the challenge. Funny enough, the little 2x2x2 was just as tricky.
... does anyone know the total number of permutations for it? I figured it should be = 8! * 3^8, so I have a 3 Gig database of all the cube states, along with a pointer to how to reach it's initial stage. Still writing a 'solver' though.
Speaking of the 2x2x2
> I'm betting on all monsters turning into MSLEBs or something
MSLEBs are a piece of cake with Zons or Barbs. Thundergod's belt defn helps too.
> Where's the 'right to drive', in the Constitution?
Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
And documented cases to go along with it:
Driver Licensing vs. The Right To Travel
> You create a theory, which you test, and from those results you come up with more theories.
You left off the first bit! You *first* observe. Theory did not come first! It came from observations, and wondering how the universe works.
e.g.
1. Observe (natural, or man-made expirements)
2. Theorize
3. Test
repeat
> Truth is only as good as the information you have.
Physical truth, yes. Meta-physical truth, I disagree. But that is a discussion for another time.
Truth doesn't change, but your perception and knowledge of it does.
Cheers
--
"I want to move to theory, everything works in theory." - John Cash