> Who does man think he is, to assume the role of god and create life? Are we really that conceited that we feel we are ALLOWED to create other organisms?
Uhm, Hello. Because nature allows us humans to pro-create. We create another organism anytime a mother has a child.
Why would it be any different in creating a new species?
> VC contains a fairly standards-compliant compiler
Yeah right.
Have you ever tried compiling a windows program with all extensions disabled? ( Projects > Settings > C++ > Category:Customize > Disable language extensions)
Read some of the C/C++ Users Journal to see how broken VC is.
VC won't accept const definitions inside a class, hence you must resort to the old enum hack.
Templates are horribly broken. i.e. The compiler skips right over it unless it is explicitly used. *SLAP* BAD COMPILER!
Granted now that the C++ compiler implementation is FINALLY settling down, things should get better, but ALL C++ compilers have quite a ways to go.
> For instance MAME allows you to play old arcade games if you have the corresponding copyrighted roms.
That's the problem. The old games are NO LONGER BEING MADE. How can the game companies loose money on a product that is no longer being sold [by them] ??? Illegal? Yeah.
What we need is FAIR-USE-COPYING for games. i.e. After 10 years, the game becomes public domain. That gives the game companies time to make money, and lets face it, if a game doesn't sell well in the first 10 years, how do they expect it to sell well after??
I think it would work.
Comments?
Oral sex angers the christian god! Uhm, No.
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> So, pray tell, what exactly were the sodomites planning to with those angles
Technically, Gen 19:5, doesn't say.
It is implied, but the point is about having _ homosexual_ relations (why else would it mention the men of the city wanting the men inside Lot's house?) This is consistent with Lev 18:22, and Rom 1:27 which mentions homosexual relations has no place among the followers of God.
I believe the original question meant was there any places in the bible that condone missionary position or anal sex between a man and wife. The answer for that, is NO.
Did we miss any other verses?
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> I mean, really, show me ONE PLACE where the Bible refers to the missionary position or anal sex,
You are correct. There is NONE.
> or for that matter clarifies what constitutes "marriage."
Mark 10:7 "This explains why a man leaves his father and mother and is joined to his wife. Since they are no loner two but one, let no on serparate them, for God has joined them together." (Which is quoted from the Old Testament.)
There are other places that also mention laws against divorce. Strong's Concordance is a good research tool.
> You really have got to wonder about a cult that can scare the IRS into submission.
Not really. They just a) moved all their money off-shore, outside the jurisdiction of the IRS (hence legally being external to the Internal Revenue Service), and b) then adopted tactics of the IRS by spreading misinformation, fear, intimidation and harrassment. Of course paying off a few IRS people helped too.
What you have to be scared of is your friends and loved ones being brainwashed by the cult.
> To get a bank account, I had to give it The solution is to open up a non-interest bearing account instead of a normal account. Off-shore banking with a company visa card is even better.
> To get a job, as well Incorrect. I work without one, and many other sovereigns do as well.
Look at form 1040. It says "non-resident aliens who have decided to be taxed."
How do you become a non-resident of the US?
Expatriate and become a sovereign state citizen.
This right is given by: BILL OF RIGHTS ARTICLE XIV "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States, and of the State wherein they reside."
> To get a driver's license Internation Drivers Permit. Valid in over 200 countries. Not valid in the place of issue. You don't even have to have a 2nd citizenship to get one.
> I had to give it up for an apartment I've had 2 landlords ask me, and both times, I've replied "I don't have one." There is NOTHING they can do, since there is NO law that requires a person to have one.
> You also need an SSN for phone service, and electrical service sometimes. I've also been asked by utility companies, and again, I tell them, I don' have one. After the shock wears off, I ask them, "Is there a law that requires me to have one?"
> It's not easy to live a normal life in the US without an SSN.
I know many people, myself included, who do manage to get by without a SSN.
I am NOT a number, I am a FREE man.
"Those who would trade liberty for security deserve neither."
I think I can plan for MY retirement better then ANY government.
> people only have two ears. Adding channels beyond that makes no sense.
You're forgetting that your brain uses triangulation to determine wheter the sound is in front L/R, center, or behind L/R.
Go snag a SB Live and check out some of the demo programs where you can move the "audio source" around in 3d. You should be able to tell some difference from where the audio sounds like it is coming from.
> You mean like former Sun fellow and TCL developer John Ousterhout, who has been severely critical of OO benefits> How about A. Stepanov, who has trashed OO in a couple of interview? How about the Usenix conference talk in 94 where OO was severely trashed?
Awesome, FINALLY a critical analysis of OO{D|P}.
Could somone provide some links so I cound research this further.
I don't disagree that decompilation can't be done. Heck, us humans do it, so it is possible.;-)
The questions is, can we get a machine to re-engineer a binary program and turn it back into something semi-readable, faster than it is to just have a person reverse engineer it.
Do-able? Technically.
Usable? Not really. Well not yet at least.
> I've looked at "decompiled" binary code - it's usually pretty horrific, but sometimes quite instructive.
Have you looked at compiled Delphi and Visual Basic code. Horrific to say the least.
> laissez faire Libertarians who point out that government can't step in and tell the corporations what to do or who to serve
But you're forgetting who allows corporations to be a legal entity. Governments do via a Business License. Government indirectly tells corporations what to do via the piles of laws, regulations, taxes, tariffs, etc.
Of course the solution is not to go to the government asking to engage in Free Enterprise when we ALLREADY have that right. How do you think people did business before corporations were around?
Don't confuse National Sovereignty with State Sovereignty, the latter dealing with whatever rights we DON'T give to the Government, We the People RETAIN.
> but since they contain the full "content" of a program (at least for a particular piece of hardware/configuration etc) why can't we just write good decompilers to convert machine code to source code?
Because the binary program IS NOT the full content.
Descriptive variable names just become numbers. Arrays become pointer walks. Not to mention code optimization.
THAT is the problem. The compiler has striped away the usefull [symbolic] information.
How is the de-compiler going to distinguishing between a pointer to a pointer and an array of poitners? etc.
> I remember reading a guide for how to build a low cost linux system years ago. The advice was to decide how much power you needed, then how much you are willing to pay. Stage 2 is to wait.
I agree. I just built a dual Celeron 550 system for $260 ! (I'm a game developer and the extra cpu will be VERY welcome for compiling.)
2 x $35 Celeron 366 2 x $30 Alpha-7 Heatsink/Fan 1 x $130 ABIT BP-6
3D card are another great way to prevent your system from coming obsolete in 6 months. My Voodoo2 really extended the life of my old PPro200. Unreal, and Half-life played just fine. It wasn't until I started playing Thief last month, that the system was starting to chug in some of the larger levels.
Cool, another good link to add to my Travel vs Driving links.
Guess I'll have to get working on my Sovereinty FAQ.
Cheers
Re:You don't own your car UNLESS...
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WHY does the Department of Motor Vehicles take the MSO and in return they give you a Registration Certificate of said vehicle? It is YOUR property so why do you need PERMISSION to use it on public roads?
For a start, research the of Trust, and License in Black's Law Dictionary.
I have done my research.
I have yet to be given a ticket for "driving without a license" or "driving an unregistered vehicle"
> Of course, if you want to drive it on roads you have to follow the rules, that means a valid drivers license and up to date proof of ownership (tag) in all states
Not true.
You DON'T need a driver's license to freely travel on the public road(s).
One legal way to travel without a license is to get an International Driver's Permit that is valid in over 200 countries. (I have met sovereigns who don't even bother with a license as they have the Manufacturer's Statement of Origin for their car)
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> Who does man think he is, to assume the role of god and create life? Are we really that conceited that we feel we are ALLOWED to create other organisms?
Uhm, Hello. Because nature allows us humans to pro-create. We create another organism anytime a mother has a child.
Why would it be any different in creating a new species?
Cheers
> VC contains a fairly standards-compliant compiler
Yeah right.
Have you ever tried compiling a windows program with all extensions disabled? ( Projects > Settings > C++ > Category:Customize > Disable language extensions)
Read some of the C/C++ Users Journal to see how broken VC is.
VC won't accept const definitions inside a class, hence you must resort to the old enum hack.
Templates are horribly broken. i.e. The compiler skips right over it unless it is explicitly used. *SLAP* BAD COMPILER!
Granted now that the C++ compiler implementation is FINALLY settling down, things should get better, but ALL C++ compilers have quite a ways to go.
IAASE (I am a software engineer)
Cheers
I believe this is the thread the author was talking about. I just searched deja:
GCC language features ansi
subject: gcc -pedantic
forum: comp.os.linux.advocacy
> For instance MAME allows you to play old arcade games if you have the corresponding copyrighted roms.
That's the problem. The old games are NO LONGER BEING MADE. How can the game companies loose money on a product that is no longer being sold [by them] ??? Illegal? Yeah.
What we need is FAIR-USE-COPYING for games. i.e. After 10 years, the game becomes public domain. That gives the game companies time to make money, and lets face it, if a game doesn't sell well in the first 10 years, how do they expect it to sell well after??
I think it would work.
Comments?
> So, pray tell, what exactly were the sodomites planning to with those angles
Technically, Gen 19:5, doesn't say.
It is implied, but the point is about having _ homosexual_ relations (why else would it mention the men of the city wanting the men inside Lot's house?) This is consistent with Lev 18:22, and Rom 1:27 which mentions homosexual relations has no place among the followers of God.
I believe the original question meant was there any places in the bible that condone missionary position or anal sex between a man and wife. The answer for that, is NO.
Did we miss any other verses?
> I mean, really, show me ONE PLACE where the Bible refers to the missionary position or anal sex,
You are correct. There is NONE.
> or for that matter clarifies what constitutes "marriage."
Mark 10:7 "This explains why a man leaves his father and mother and is joined to his wife. Since they are no loner two but one, let no on serparate them, for God has joined them together."
(Which is quoted from the Old Testament.)
There are other places that also mention laws against divorce. Strong's Concordance is a good research tool.
Cheers
> You really have got to wonder about a cult that can scare the IRS into submission.
Not really. They just
a) moved all their money off-shore, outside the jurisdiction of the IRS (hence legally being external to the Internal Revenue Service), and
b) then adopted tactics of the IRS by spreading misinformation, fear, intimidation and harrassment. Of course paying off a few IRS people helped too.
What you have to be scared of is your friends and loved ones being brainwashed by the cult.
Cheers
> To get a bank account, I had to give it
The solution is to open up a non-interest bearing account instead of a normal account. Off-shore banking with a company visa card is even better.
> To get a job, as well
Incorrect. I work without one, and many other sovereigns do as well.
http://www.svpvril.com/ssletter.html
http://www.noneusa.org/
http://www.devvy.com/
Look at form 1040. It says "non-resident aliens who have decided to be taxed."
How do you become a non-resident of the US?
Expatriate and become a sovereign state citizen.
This right is given by:
BILL OF RIGHTS
ARTICLE XIV
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States, and of the State wherein they reside."
> To get a driver's license
Internation Drivers Permit. Valid in over 200 countries. Not valid in the place of issue. You don't even have to have a 2nd citizenship to get one.
> I had to give it up for an apartment
I've had 2 landlords ask me, and both times, I've replied "I don't have one." There is NOTHING they can do, since there is NO law that requires a person to have one.
> You also need an SSN for phone service, and electrical service sometimes.
I've also been asked by utility companies, and again, I tell them, I don' have one. After the shock wears off, I ask them, "Is there a law that requires me to have one?"
> It's not easy to live a normal life in the US without an SSN.
I know many people, myself included, who do manage to get by without a SSN.
I am NOT a number, I am a FREE man.
"Those who would trade liberty for security deserve neither."
I think I can plan for MY retirement better then ANY government.
Cheers
> what's to stop me from re-digitalising the analog output and using that as a just as good digital copy??
Nothing. The trick is to be able to re-sample it at a decent (or better) quality.
> people only have two ears. Adding channels beyond that makes no sense.
You're forgetting that your brain uses triangulation to determine wheter the sound is in front L/R, center, or behind L/R.
Go snag a SB Live and check out some of the demo programs where you can move the "audio source" around in 3d. You should be able to tell some difference from where the audio sounds like it is coming from.
IANAAE (Im am not an audio engineer)
Cheers
> You mean like former Sun fellow and TCL developer John Ousterhout, who has been severely critical of OO benefits> How about A. Stepanov, who has trashed OO in a couple of interview? How about the Usenix conference talk in 94 where OO was severely trashed?
Awesome, FINALLY a critical analysis of OO{D|P}.
Could somone provide some links so I cound research this further.
Thx.
I don't disagree that decompilation can't be done. Heck, us humans do it, so it is possible. ;-)
The questions is, can we get a machine to re-engineer a binary program and turn it back into something semi-readable, faster than it is to just have a person reverse engineer it.
Do-able? Technically.
Usable? Not really. Well not yet at least.
> I've looked at "decompiled" binary code - it's usually pretty horrific, but sometimes quite instructive.
Have you looked at compiled Delphi and Visual Basic code. Horrific to say the least.
Cheers
You hit the nail right on the head.
;-)
Limited Liability, via either a person, or fictious person (company)
What was the orginal debate question?
> laissez faire Libertarians who point out that government can't step in and tell the corporations what to do or who to serve
But you're forgetting who allows corporations to be a legal entity. Governments do via a Business License. Government indirectly tells corporations what to do via the piles of laws, regulations, taxes, tariffs, etc.
Of course the solution is not to go to the government asking to engage in Free Enterprise when we ALLREADY have that right. How do you think people did business before corporations were around?
Cheers
> First of all, sovereignty sucks
Don't confuse National Sovereignty with State Sovereignty, the latter dealing with whatever rights we DON'T give to the Government, We the People RETAIN.
Cheers
> but since they contain the full "content" of a program (at least for a particular piece of hardware/configuration etc) why can't we just write good decompilers to convert machine code to source code?
Because the binary program IS NOT the full content.
Descriptive variable names just become numbers. Arrays become pointer walks. Not to mention code optimization.
THAT is the problem. The compiler has striped away the usefull [symbolic] information.
How is the de-compiler going to distinguishing between a pointer to a pointer and an array of poitners? etc.
IAAP (I am a programmer)
Cheers
> I remember reading a guide for how to build a low cost linux system years ago. The advice was to decide how much power you needed, then how much you are willing to pay. Stage 2 is to wait.
I agree. I just built a dual Celeron 550 system for $260 ! (I'm a game developer and the extra cpu will be VERY welcome for compiling.)
2 x $35 Celeron 366
2 x $30 Alpha-7 Heatsink/Fan
1 x $130 ABIT BP-6
3D card are another great way to prevent your system from coming obsolete in 6 months. My Voodoo2 really extended the life of my old PPro200. Unreal, and Half-life played just fine. It wasn't until I started playing Thief last month, that the system was starting to chug in some of the larger levels.
Cheers
Here are the links for some of the books people have mentioned previously:
1 5/qid=943900958/sr=1-2/102-1105150-5362405
1 4/qid=943900958/sr=1-1/102-1105150-5362405
7 7/qid=943901385/sr=1-1/102-1105150-5362405
Linux Application Development"
Johnson and Troan
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/02013082
Developing Linux Applications with GTK+ and GDK
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/07357002
Advanced Programming in the Unix Environment
Steven.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/02015631
Please moderate the parent post as informative.
Cool, another good link to add to my Travel vs Driving links.
Guess I'll have to get working on my Sovereinty FAQ.
Cheers
WHY does the Department of Motor Vehicles take the MSO and in return they give you a Registration Certificate of said vehicle? It is YOUR property so why do you need PERMISSION to use it on public roads?
For a start, research the of Trust, and License in Black's Law Dictionary.
I have done my research.
I have yet to be given a ticket for "driving without a license" or "driving an unregistered vehicle"
Cheers
> Of course, if you want to drive it on roads you have to follow the rules, that means a valid drivers license and up to date proof of ownership (tag) in all states
l _1.html
Not true.
You DON'T need a driver's license to freely travel on the public road(s).
http://www.ptialaska.net/~swampy/interest/trave
I have an International Driver's Permit. It is valid in over 200 countries.
Cheers
> If I own a car, it's my right to operate it. This is called "private property".
7 /vehiclecertorig.html
That is correct.
Unfortunately, you DON'T own your car UNLESS you have the Manufacturer's Statement of Origin.
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Senate/441
http://teaminfinity.com/~ralph/dl.html
http://www.ironsoft.com/lp/driving.html
http://aero.net/silver/Driving.htm
Cheers
> Government property is my property.
No, look up "Allodial Title" in Black's Law Dictionary.
If you TRUELY owned your land, the government wouldn't legally be able to seize it if you didn't pay taxes.
You DON'T need a driver's license to freely travel on the public road(s), so WHY would I need permission to view public information on the web?
l _1.html
7 /vehiclecertorig.html
http://www.ptialaska.net/~swampy/interest/trave
One legal way to travel without a license is to get an International Driver's Permit that is valid in over 200 countries. (I have met sovereigns who don't even bother with a license as they have the Manufacturer's Statement of Origin for their car)
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Senate/441
http://teaminfinity.com/~ralph/dl.html
http://www.ironsoft.com/lp/driving.html
http://aero.net/silver/Driving.htm
I have yet to be given a ticket for "Driving without a License" since I am out the officer's jurisdiction.
Cheers
I thought that for a contract to be legally binding it had to be signed in writing?
Any lawyers in the house to answer this question?