Because it sounds like you still lack understanding the fundamentals.
> When I want to quickly throw together a visualisation (3d graph or something) I can do it in the fixed function pipeline in 10 minutes. > For someone who just needs 3d graphics programming about once a year the fixed function pipeline is definitely way easier to grasp.
OpenGL 1.2 is _still_ available, even on modern platforms.
Hell, you can use the glPushMatrix(), and { GLfloat matrix[16]; glGetFloatv (GL_MODELVIEW_MATRIX, matrix); } to query the matrix to verify your matrix stack is correct.
If you want to continue to make excuses for why you don't want to learn modern programming fine, but you're doing yourself a disservice by remaining a dinosaur.
> As an amateur OpenGL hobbyist I was shocked when they removed the fixed function pipeline - which is great in principle - but suddenly it was expected of me to write OpenGL shaders to accomplish the most elementary things such as moving or texturing an object.
What?! You're too lazy to write 2 _trivial_ shaders and setup code???
0. You could always ask Reddit's/r/openglfor help you know? I hang out there and on/r/gamedev.
1. You write the boiler plate to create/bind a shader ONCE:
* glCreateProgram(), * glShaderSource(), * glCompileShader(), * glAttachShader(), * glLinkProgram(), * glGetUniformLocation()// for each uniform in each shader
My C++ code _with_ comments is ~400 Lines of code. Here's the initialize() function, using SDL. The "hardest" part is tracking down the function prototypes but a little bit of searching the OpenGL.h files makes that easy too.
Yeah I really wish RED would add a complete set of framerate demos for:
* 24 Hz * 30 Hz * 60 Hz * 120 Hz * 144 Hz
The nice thing about using about 120 Hz and 144 Hz refresh is that it is an exact multiple of 24 Hz (5x and 6x, respectively).
I might have to get a HERO4 or some other cheap 240 fps camera and record this demo 120 vs 60 vs 30 fps, but then again we already have 60 Hz vs 120 Hz comparisons.
> My 720p plasma that's 6 years old, gets compliments all the time.
I'm not surprised. Next to OLED, Plasma's superior viewing angles kicks the shit out of LCD's / LED's. Combine that with deep blacks, a good gamut, with a physical black border around the display (old contrast trick) and there isn't even any contest.
Note: I'm a plasma man too. I picked up one of the last 1080p Panny's (TC-P60VT60) right before they went out of stock.
> That's some major bullshit - the Titan X is an expensive piece of shit compared to the 980 Ti.
Whoa, hold on. Context is extremely important.
For gaming yup, that's some serious shenanigans(*) ! BUT for rendering the Titan X is faster then the 980 Ti.
(*) Obviously, many people don't feel the Price/Performance of the Titan X vs 980 Ti is worth it, myself included. Words along Over-priced, Greedy bastards come to mind, but if performance is king and money is no object then for rendering + scientific computing, the Titan X was the previous crown holder.
... let alone 120 Hz then obviously you don't need a high end GPU. Continue along with your crappy 30 Hz on consoles. The rest of us will be upgrading.
Ah, the classic ad hominem attack when you lack intelligence and facts. Stay classy!
> I'm pretty sure that Telengard set the tone for Ultima
BZZT. Thanks for playing! You've just won 1st prize in "You Don't Know WTF you're talking about" (TM).
* Ultima 1: Initial release date: June 1981 * Telengard: Initial release date: 1982 * Ultima 2: Initial release date: August 24, 1982
> We can sit here and make up shit like this all day
You could continue to make shit up but I'll let the facts speak for themselves:
List of Top Sellers (as of 30 June 1982)
* 20,000 Ultima (California Pacific Computer Co., June 1981)
Sales for Telengard are where again for this yet-another-obscure DnD ripoff RPG ??
I guess that's why CGW in 1992 said no cared about it:
Yet in 1992, Computer Gaming World's Gerald Graef wrote that Telengard and Temple of Apshai were "quickly overshadowed" by the Wizardry and Ultima series.
Denial is not just a river in Egypt but then again I wouldn't expect anything else from a coward.
-- Better to remain silent and thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt
It is actually worse then that. The article mentions:
Liberty Reserve fell into the U.S. government's sights, because it ran such a huge operation without oversight. In the post-9/11 world, law enforcement was keen to keep track of every dollar to avoid it ending up funding terrorists.
The US government is the biggest hypocrite; they themselves have become terrorists, having directly and indirectly funded ISIS:
Maybe this is part of the reason BitCoin creator's Satoshi Nakamoto won't publicly come forward? He doesn't want to get charged with "domestic terrorism" (sic.)
The US will say they have jurisdiction when ANY American is involved in any business anywhere in the world. It doesn't matter even if you renounce your citizenship. If you are involved in Commerce (in any shape or form) with (past or) present Americans they will get (eventually) get involved.
Under 18 U.S.C. Â 486, it is a Federal crime to pass, or attempt to pass, any coins of gold or silver intended for use as current money except as authorized by law.
Since only gold and silver are legal tender, anything that threatens that monopoly of money infrastructure and status quo is automatically targeted -- even if it is private currency.
New York Times ran an article a few years back... emphasis added to highlight the shenanigans:
His name is Bernard von NotHaus, and he is a professed "monetary architect" and a maker of custom coins found guilty last spring of counterfeiting charges for minting and distributing a form of private money called the Liberty Dollar.
Described by some as "the Rosa Parks of the constitutional currency movement," Mr. von NotHaus managed over the last decade to get more than 60 million real dollars' worth of his precious metal-backed currency into circulation across the country -- so much, and with such deep penetration, that the prosecutor overseeing his case accused him of "domestic terrorism" for using them to undermine the government.
No one was pretending the Liberty Dollar was legal tender. It was clearly a private currency, but simply because it was too popular it got targeted -- you know other the "Golden Rule":
* "He who has the gold, makes the rules"
This government abuse is nothing new. Look at the shenanigans of how whistleblower Brad Birkenfeld exposing the fraud of UBS was treated:
In October 2001, Birkenfeld began working at UBS in Geneva, Switzerland, handling private banking, primarily for clients located in the United States. In 2005, he learned that UBS's secret dealings with American customers violated an agreement the bank had reached with the IRS.
He resigned from UBS in October 2005 and provided written whistleblower complaints to Peter Kurer, Head Counsel for UBS, and other UBS senior executives regarding the illegal practices of U.S. cross-border business.
He is the first person to expose what has become a multi-billion dollar international tax fraud scandal over Swiss private banking. AT THE TIME, despite his unprecedented, extensive and voluntary cooperation, and registering as an IRS whistleblower, Birkenfeld was the only U.S. citizen to be sentenced to jail as a result of the scandal.
The IRS explained its decision by citing Birkenfeldâ(TM)s âoeexceptional cooperationâ and the âoebreadth and depthâ of the information he provided, all of which led to âoeunprecedented actionsâ against UBS
/sarcasm America, the best government money can buy!
While you and I both agree that drugs aren't healthy, trying to micro-manage how other people use plants (tobacco, marijuana, etc.) with their body is just a little too Orwellian for my tastes.
i.e. One could attempt to make the same argument over alcohol...
Why should alcohol or any form of liqueur be legal at all? There are no redeeming benefits of drinking.
... although I imagine the wine-drinkers would be out in pitchforks.
This quickly turns into a slippery slope argument. If history teaches us anything, Prohibition is NOT the answer, self control is.
Not a bad argument! However your second premise "2. Reality: we do not know what lies in the future." isn't exactly true. i.e. First Contact is currently scheduled to be allowed to happen ~2024 (give or take a few years depending on mass consciousness.)
But your point about "the future isn't set in stone"has the correct gist. Think of time like probability waves. The closer you get, the more probable certain events may and will happen.
> The problem with philosophy, as Descartes
The fallacy of Descartes is that he got reality completely backwards. The correct logic is...
I AM, therefore I think.
... as anyone who has become proficient with meditation understands. e.g. When one is "in the now", there are no thoughts, only existence.
> is that it's very difficult to arrive at definite and incontrovertible truths about metaphysical things.
There are 3 fundamental problems:
a) You can only receive as much truth as you are willing to live. This automatically puts up a barrier to truth.
b) There are also 2 types of knowledge: Intellectual Knowledge, and Experiential knowledge. It is *only* by the subjective experience can one truly KNOW the objective truth. This means truth is RELATIVE.
c) There are only 3 absolutes, _everything_ else is relative:
1. Law of the Hologram: All is One, One is All 2. Law of Existence: Spirit is Eternal; Physical is Temporary 3. Law of Karma: You receive what you give
> Christianity is concerned with God, us, and our relationship to Him and to each other.
Agreed! Jesus succinctly summed up the entire law and prophets with 2 sentences. "Love God. Love your Neighbor." with the rich man parable, but I would say the entire universe could be summed up with just one word:
Relationships
Although if someone wanted to argue that word should be "Love", I would have to concede that point.
Your fallacy of duality is assuming free-will and predestination are mutually exclusive. You need to look towards a higher perspective where they are both unified.
i.e. Science was hung up on duality for ages too. Is light a particle or wave? It is *both*.
Slashdot Mirror
/sarcasm Obviously Quantity is more important then Quality and McDoanalds is better then gourmet food, right? Oh wait ...
Quantity != Quality.
* List of most view YouTube videos
* List of most disliked YouTube videos
i.e. Anaconda has 587,510,111 views, 2,532,957 likes (0.4%) and 1,160,130 dislikes (0.19%). Yes < 1%. This tells us fuck all about quality.
WRT to games, Zero fucks are given about latest-fps-fad. In 4 years the hype will begin again for the latest Battlefield and COD. Repeat ad nausea
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Why are people more interested in someone else's artificial life, then improving their own real life?.
The same way the kartrashians are. Oh wait, zero fucks are given.
> Shaders are conceptually more difficult than the fixed function pipeline. They are more flexible, but more difficult to think about.
Not really if you understand the rendering pipeline:
* For each vertex, run the the vertex shader.
* For each pixel in the primitive, run the fragment shader
I'd highly recommend you watch:
* http://simonschreibt.de/gat/re...
* http://etodd.github.io/shaders...
Because it sounds like you still lack understanding the fundamentals.
> When I want to quickly throw together a visualisation (3d graph or something) I can do it in the fixed function pipeline in 10 minutes.
> For someone who just needs 3d graphics programming about once a year the fixed function pipeline is definitely way easier to grasp.
OpenGL 1.2 is _still_ available, even on modern platforms.
Hell, you can use the glPushMatrix(), and { GLfloat matrix[16]; glGetFloatv (GL_MODELVIEW_MATRIX, matrix); } to query the matrix to verify your matrix stack is correct.
If you want to continue to make excuses for why you don't want to learn modern programming fine, but you're doing yourself a disservice by remaining a dinosaur.
> while Microsoft is a software company (prints money).
/sarcasm Ah, I guess M$ makes the the Xbox, Xbox 360, Xbone, Microsoft Mouse, Microsoft Keyboard, etc., not Microsoft.
*facepalm*
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> As an amateur OpenGL hobbyist I was shocked when they removed the fixed function pipeline - which is great in principle - but suddenly it was expected of me to write OpenGL shaders to accomplish the most elementary things such as moving or texturing an object.
What?! You're too lazy to write 2 _trivial_ shaders and setup code???
0. You could always ask Reddit's /r/opengl for help you know? I hang out there and on /r/gamedev.
1. You write the boiler plate to create/bind a shader ONCE:
* glCreateProgram(), // for each uniform in each shader
* glShaderSource(),
* glCompileShader(),
* glAttachShader(),
* glLinkProgram(),
* glGetUniformLocation()
My C++ code _with_ comments is ~400 Lines of code. Here's the initialize() function, using SDL. The "hardest" part is tracking down the function prototypes but a little bit of searching the OpenGL.h files makes that easy too.
Yeah I really wish RED would add a complete set of framerate demos for:
* 24 Hz
* 30 Hz
* 60 Hz
* 120 Hz
* 144 Hz
The nice thing about using about 120 Hz and 144 Hz refresh is that it is an exact multiple of 24 Hz (5x and 6x, respectively).
I might have to get a HERO4 or some other cheap 240 fps camera and record this demo 120 vs 60 vs 30 fps, but then again we already have 60 Hz vs 120 Hz comparisons.
> not a bunch of cherry-on-top paid DLCs for games etc
You're looking for this DLC image.
It has already happened with Hearthstone. You can buy Quests for $24.99.
Should be; you only need a GTX 970.
> My 720p plasma that's 6 years old, gets compliments all the time.
I'm not surprised. Next to OLED, Plasma's superior viewing angles kicks the shit out of LCD's / LED's. Combine that with deep blacks, a good gamut, with a physical black border around the display (old contrast trick) and there isn't even any contest.
Note: I'm a plasma man too. I picked up one of the last 1080p Panny's (TC-P60VT60) right before they went out of stock.
Are you on AvsForum by chance?
[[citation]] ?
> That's some major bullshit - the Titan X is an expensive piece of shit compared to the 980 Ti.
Whoa, hold on. Context is extremely important.
For gaming yup, that's some serious shenanigans(*) ! BUT for rendering the Titan X is faster then the 980 Ti.
(*) Obviously, many people don't feel the Price/Performance of the Titan X vs 980 Ti is worth it, myself included. Words along Over-priced, Greedy bastards come to mind, but if performance is king and money is no object then for rendering + scientific computing, the Titan X was the previous crown holder.
It all depends on context.
> Do video card upgrades even matter anymore?
Yes.
* VR requires 90 Hz minimum (Thank god!)
* 4K Gaming at 120 Hz requires beefy hardware.
* ENB mods
If you can't even tell the difference between 24 Hz and 60 Hz ....
OWE my eyes @ 24 fps !
Silky smooth @ 60 fps !
I really shouldn't feed the trolls ...
Ah, the classic ad hominem attack when you lack intelligence and facts. Stay classy!
> I'm pretty sure that Telengard set the tone for Ultima
BZZT. Thanks for playing! You've just won 1st prize in "You Don't Know WTF you're talking about" (TM).
* Ultima 1: Initial release date: June 1981
* Telengard: Initial release date: 1982
* Ultima 2: Initial release date: August 24, 1982
> We can sit here and make up shit like this all day
You could continue to make shit up but I'll let the facts speak for themselves:
List of Top Sellers (as of 30 June 1982)
* 20,000 Ultima (California Pacific Computer Co., June 1981)
Sales for Telengard are where again for this yet-another-obscure DnD ripoff RPG ??
I guess that's why CGW in 1992 said no cared about it:
Denial is not just a river in Egypt but then again I wouldn't expect anything else from a coward.
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Better to remain silent and thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt
It is actually worse then that. The article mentions:
The US government is the biggest hypocrite; they themselves have become terrorists, having directly and indirectly funded ISIS:
* http://www.newsweek.com/2014/1...
* https://www.quora.com/Is-it-tr...
* http://thefreethoughtproject.c...
Maybe this is part of the reason BitCoin creator's Satoshi Nakamoto won't publicly come forward? He doesn't want to get charged with "domestic terrorism" (sic.)
The US will say they have jurisdiction when ANY American is involved in any business anywhere in the world. It doesn't matter even if you renounce your citizenship. If you are involved in Commerce (in any shape or form) with (past or) present Americans they will get (eventually) get involved.
Since only gold and silver are legal tender, anything that threatens that monopoly of money infrastructure and status quo is automatically targeted -- even if it is private currency.
New York Times ran an article a few years back ... emphasis added to highlight the shenanigans:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10...
No one was pretending the Liberty Dollar was legal tender. It was clearly a private currency, but simply because it was too popular it got targeted -- you know other the "Golden Rule":
* "He who has the gold, makes the rules"
This government abuse is nothing new. Look at the shenanigans of how whistleblower Brad Birkenfeld exposing the fraud of UBS was treated:
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>> I'd rather they quit pestering me to do something I do not want to do.
> I understand... I don't want to pay my taxes either, but I have to...
False equivalence much? You're comparing apples and oranges assuming they are the same thing.
NOT paying taxes is illegal.
NOT upgrading is legal.
> You don't have to like it, but you have to do it.
[[Citation]]
I get to decide what patches to install on my computer, not Microshit.
> If you're online, you have to keep your computer up to date, to do otherwise is irresponsible and unsafe...
Assuming the updates are safe AND work. Oh look, why did Microsoft pull updates KB 3114409, The Windows 10 Nov. Update, /KB3001652, etc.
But keep drinking that Kool-Aid (TM) and astroturfing there buddy.
HA-HA ! That's priceless. Hadn't seen that one before.
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> Why, then, are most people so negative on other people selling and buying them?
You can start here with the shenanigans of Imaginary Property:
* Against Intellectual Property
* Against Intellectual Property 2
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> Why they decided to add World Of Warcraft, ... before Final Fantasy
Agreed -- these popularity rewards are plain stupid. That's like giving McDonalds a medal for gourmet food. Quantity (popularity) != Quality.
This sucks that turn-based RPGs got completely screwed. Seriously, without:
Final Fantasy -- classic JPRG
Ultima -- set the tone for Western RPGs
There never would have been Ultima Online, Everquest, and ultimately WoW.
While you and I both agree that drugs aren't healthy, trying to micro-manage how other people use plants (tobacco, marijuana, etc.) with their body is just a little too Orwellian for my tastes.
i.e. One could attempt to make the same argument over alcohol ...
This quickly turns into a slippery slope argument. If history teaches us anything, Prohibition is NOT the answer, self control is.
Not a bad argument! However your second premise "2. Reality: we do not know what lies in the future." isn't exactly true. i.e. First Contact is currently scheduled to be allowed to happen ~2024 (give or take a few years depending on mass consciousness.)
But your point about "the future isn't set in stone" has the correct gist. Think of time like probability waves. The closer you get, the more probable certain events may and will happen.
> The problem with philosophy, as Descartes
The fallacy of Descartes is that he got reality completely backwards. The correct logic is ...
I AM, therefore I think.
> is that it's very difficult to arrive at definite and incontrovertible truths about metaphysical things.
There are 3 fundamental problems:
a) You can only receive as much truth as you are willing to live. This automatically puts up a barrier to truth.
b) There are also 2 types of knowledge: Intellectual Knowledge, and Experiential knowledge. It is *only* by the subjective experience can one truly KNOW the objective truth. This means truth is RELATIVE.
c) There are only 3 absolutes, _everything_ else is relative:
1. Law of the Hologram: All is One, One is All
2. Law of Existence: Spirit is Eternal; Physical is Temporary
3. Law of Karma: You receive what you give
> Christianity is concerned with God, us, and our relationship to Him and to each other.
Agreed! Jesus succinctly summed up the entire law and prophets with 2 sentences. "Love God. Love your Neighbor." with the rich man parable, but I would say the entire universe could be summed up with just one word:
Relationships
Although if someone wanted to argue that word should be "Love", I would have to concede that point.
Your fallacy of duality is assuming free-will and predestination are mutually exclusive. You need to look towards a higher perspective where they are both unified.
i.e. Science was hung up on duality for ages too. Is light a particle or wave? It is *both*.
> The earth is ~4.5 billion years old. Human civilization as I know it is only ~6,000 years old.
FTFY
Stop assuming what other people know.
i.e. You're ignorant of the civilizations of Mu, Lemuria, and Atlantis for one.
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First Contact will be allowed ~2024. Are you ready for a larger perspective?
/Oblg. Cookie Monster Sound Board
That's a dam good list.
If you don't mind I'm going to augment it with all the other great suggestions other people have mentioned.
My Top 33 list would be:
* flint and/or torch
* bow + arrow
* second wheel + axle (Thx postglock!)
* knife
* lantern + kerosene
* granary
* lever
* inclined plane
* forge / anvil (so you can make swords)
* shovel / pick-axe
* soap
* plow
* compass
* clock and/or pocket watch
* gun
* dynamite
* printing press, or for the semantic nazis, the Apple Laserwriter printer (which started DeskTop Publishing)
* gas motor
* electric motor
* light bulb
* medical syringe
* pocket watch
* bicycle
* car
* slide rule
* refrigerator
* television
* transistor radio
* walkman
* CD player
* computer
* mobile phone
* gps receiver