But when it comes to flash content you will never know how demanding it will be in advance, and that won't affect java-script performance, and you could always turn off cleartype / whatever.
Yeah, makes a lot of sense how the general application in that case can beat the crap out of the special purpose built omg-it'- a-sony!-browser.
Especially with comments like:
If you can't out preform a general use application (which is what MSIE is) with something that is custom built for a purpose then you have serious issues.
My first though/joke was to answer any of the posts with how this was compared with a claim of them running IE7 on some machine on the top500-list and how the PS3s browser was faster than that.
And how likely is it that Sony have coded the browser to run without any other libs, "os" or whatever? Does it really execute along and is written from scratch with no generic parts to handle screen draws and such?
And even if the machine has 256 MB ram or 8 GB it will matter a lot for how to code the parts of the browser handling javascript!?!
I doubt even things like newer SSE would matter, and there is nothing stopping you from checking which version of SSE is available and optimize for that one.
What the fuck does busses have to do with javascript performance? Or even graphic cards for that matter...
The PS3 have low ram... But I guess you meant less ram because it only run one task at the time, which I don't even know if it's true for it? I have no idea how the PS3 runs the browser.
Windows will obviously use the GPU for drawing to..
But it's a useless comparison anyway since I doubt IE7 runs on the PS3... Or the PS3 browser runs on a PC. And I wouldn't be to sure they even use the SPEs either, who knows.
Does the developer time include the amount of actually making Windows and so on as well? Because I would believe it's easier to code a browser for Windows than for the PS3... If you want to include the development time for all the frameworks and OSes in the equation, well then MICROSOFT HAVE HAD A FUCKING HUGE PIECE OF EXTRA TIME.
But, you get same offer as the retarded AC, come with suggestions on how you would optimize browser code for a PS3 compared to a PC..
That you can optimize games for a specific well known restriction in hardware and know exactly what you can put at it and not? Yes. But a browser? It's not like they will look it to 4x AA because they would get to few FPSes at 8x but more than 60 at 0x...
If you want to say that I missed the point, that he was joking how Sony got better chances to optimize the software the rest of your comment doesn't make sense.
If you want to argue that he had the same point as me, that Microsoft could easily optimize good enough on x86, well, then we didn't had the same point.
So, uhm,... Fuck you AC which won't read this.
Feel free to tell me how Microsoft can't optimize Windows and IE7 as good on a PC, it's not like the CPUs differ a lot or that they don't know all the details of them.
such a lame task as executing javascript doesn't pose much of a challenge for a machine specially designed to run much more complicated code as fast as fucking possible.
Doesn't make any sense whatsoever either. A frickin' PC is supposed to run much more advanced stuff to, and obviously javascript do pose a challenge since they are optimizing it (or well, it would make sense to do that even if it didn't.)
So uhm, you're a total failure, too bad you couldn't stand for it with a name.
The poster of the article is a moron, an alpha version isn't stable. He may think it works ok and is stable enough for him, but it's still not stable.
I just tried it and it crashed within one minute of usage (went to prisjakt.nu, typed 360 in the search field, pressed left to add xbox at the beginning, crash.)
I hate people who say that something the developers themself don't trust it stable and works. Right...
It's like when Microsoft say their latest Windows version is stable before SP2.
I doubt it really matters that much considering how the first ones didn't had a HDD either did they? So they can't really rely on it to much for games at least I guess?
But yes, I'd rather get the PS3 for total value as well, but I doubt most people look at all the extra benefits and even less parents which want to buy their kids a console. So, half price does matter a lot, even if there may be as or even more price-worthy ones.
Sadly enough most people are probably not to bothered with that since they end up buying all the same games anyway. (Mario galaxy, Zelda, maybe smash bros as you mention, metroid, mario kart, whatever more.)
Over here in Sweden the only games advertised for the DS is still Nintendogs and New super mario bros (and earlier mario kart). Sure there is a lot of games for the DS, sure there are better titles than those, sure there are newer titles than those, sure there are more interesting and fresh titles than those... Doesn't matter, it seems, because everyone seem to buy what they recognise / their friends have anyway.
But if I was new to the DS I would be wondering if that was all it had and if there never came any new games and such. I can't understand why they show the same old crap. Where is castlevania, megaman, kirby, advanced wars, final fantasy, the new probotector and so on?
No news that Nintendo consoles live long and that the service is excellent. That many people have replaced their PS2 multiple times due to messed up laser, and the same for many people with their ring of death 360s as you mention.
Though I guess if one want to be evil one could say that's only because Nintendo update their (portable) consoles so you just "have" to buy the new version before the old one bites the dust so they get more sales that way instead:D
Everything went as expected, but atm Xbox360 in it's simplest form sells at a much lower price than the Wii so at the current prices I don't really know if the winner would had been so obvious.
Even though I wished Nintendo all well and they have new controllers one can't deny the 360 has benefits over Wii as well.
The PS3? Even better but cost twice as much as the cheapest 360 which is a factor. Also as long as it don't have a lot of games only for PS3 obviously less people will be interested.
Ok, so it did really make it read-only. I have a hard time of seeing the purpose then. Sure mostly writes but maybe also some reads of the changed files will get faster from RAM but, uhm, I guess one may at some time keep the changes (even if one could turn it off.)
Do one really want to spend more of the often small amount of ram on the netbook? Though I guess you have installed more than the standard amount.
Guess ENV on Amiga may have worked a little like this, it hold settings for various apps and lived on the harddrive but at boot it was copied to RAM: instead and the new drawer was assigned ENV: instead of the one on the harddrive. So any reads or writes to ENV: and those files would end up on RAM instead off the harddrive (I guess installers which wrote content for it force-wrote them to the destination harddrive instead.)
(Normally you always had the option to store commands, libs, environmental configuration and things like that either in the program dir, in a system wide dir or in this case in ram and it didn't mattered where you had chosen to put them. So I for instance used to move all the libs out to libs: for the system wide dir instead in case whatever application held a newer version which I already had. Sounds kinda like a bad idea today if the APIs had changed but I guess people was more aware of it back then and didn't remove old stuff because I never ran into troubles from it.)
Could you explain the EWF-stuff a little? What it does, how it helped and some kind of step by step guide on how you got and installed it? Never heard of it before.
But I neither do have a Windows machine or an intrest to figure out why it did suck again. Why test software which sucks? So I'd better inform others about it and then they can skip it:D
"Flamebait"? lol? Yeah what a flamebait that I mention that the free version is annoying in some way, no matter what if it's popups, boxes about new upgrades, sounds, lots of yes/no-questions, whatever...
It was so fucking annoying that I replaced it fast, I just don't remember what it did!
Also in some tests back in the days it used to find like around 80% of the viruses or something, but whatever.
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But when it comes to flash content you will never know how demanding it will be in advance, and that won't affect java-script performance, and you could always turn off cleartype / whatever.
lol, funny thing to mention :D
Yeah, makes a lot of sense how the general application in that case can beat the crap out of the special purpose built omg-it'- a-sony!-browser.
Especially with comments like:
If you can't out preform a general use application (which is what MSIE is) with something that is custom built for a purpose then you have serious issues.
My first though/joke was to answer any of the posts with how this was compared with a claim of them running IE7 on some machine on the top500-list and how the PS3s browser was faster than that.
Super computing from Sony ftw!
And how likely is it that Sony have coded the browser to run without any other libs, "os" or whatever? Does it really execute along and is written from scratch with no generic parts to handle screen draws and such?
Yeah, lots of 100 Hz (wtf?) 386s will run IE ...
And even if the machine has 256 MB ram or 8 GB it will matter a lot for how to code the parts of the browser handling javascript!?!
I doubt even things like newer SSE would matter, and there is nothing stopping you from checking which version of SSE is available and optimize for that one.
What the fuck does busses have to do with javascript performance? Or even graphic cards for that matter...
The PS3 have low ram... But I guess you meant less ram because it only run one task at the time, which I don't even know if it's true for it? I have no idea how the PS3 runs the browser.
Windows will obviously use the GPU for drawing to..
But it's a useless comparison anyway since I doubt IE7 runs on the PS3... Or the PS3 browser runs on a PC. And I wouldn't be to sure they even use the SPEs either, who knows.
Does the developer time include the amount of actually making Windows and so on as well? Because I would believe it's easier to code a browser for Windows than for the PS3 ... If you want to include the development time for all the frameworks and OSes in the equation, well then MICROSOFT HAVE HAD A FUCKING HUGE PIECE OF EXTRA TIME.
But, you get same offer as the retarded AC, come with suggestions on how you would optimize browser code for a PS3 compared to a PC ..
That you can optimize games for a specific well known restriction in hardware and know exactly what you can put at it and not? Yes. But a browser? It's not like they will look it to 4x AA because they would get to few FPSes at 8x but more than 60 at 0x...
Learn to read.
If you want to say that I missed the point, that he was joking how Sony got better chances to optimize the software the rest of your comment doesn't make sense.
If you want to argue that he had the same point as me, that Microsoft could easily optimize good enough on x86, well, then we didn't had the same point.
So, uhm, ... Fuck you AC which won't read this.
Feel free to tell me how Microsoft can't optimize Windows and IE7 as good on a PC, it's not like the CPUs differ a lot or that they don't know all the details of them.
such a lame task as executing javascript doesn't pose much of a challenge for a machine specially designed to run much more complicated code as fast as fucking possible.
Doesn't make any sense whatsoever either. A frickin' PC is supposed to run much more advanced stuff to, and obviously javascript do pose a challenge since they are optimizing it (or well, it would make sense to do that even if it didn't.)
So uhm, you're a total failure, too bad you couldn't stand for it with a name.
Like running on x86 in Windows wouldn't be specific enough?
How would you optimize it better? Code redrawal in assembler for the graphics card instead of using direct draw or whatever?
Operas is really slow for me though so I try to avoid it as plague. I don't run a firewall or so so I don't really know why either.
I doubt USA is the largest video game market? For Microsoft maybe.
And who cares if those prices are only in Europe and not in USA, I live in Europe, for me it matters.
Hum, that didn't showed the cheapest prices, on cdon.se:
1799 sek - 360 Arcade
2499 sek - Wii
Sweden:
1980 sek - 360 Arcade
2295 sek - 360 Premium HDMI 60GB
2380 sek - Wii
2895 sek - 360 Elite 120GB
3699 sek - PS3 40 GB
The poster of the article is a moron, an alpha version isn't stable. He may think it works ok and is stable enough for him, but it's still not stable.
I just tried it and it crashed within one minute of usage (went to prisjakt.nu, typed 360 in the search field, pressed left to add xbox at the beginning, crash.)
I hate people who say that something the developers themself don't trust it stable and works. Right ...
It's like when Microsoft say their latest Windows version is stable before SP2.
I doubt it really matters that much considering how the first ones didn't had a HDD either did they? So they can't really rely on it to much for games at least I guess?
But yes, I'd rather get the PS3 for total value as well, but I doubt most people look at all the extra benefits and even less parents which want to buy their kids a console. So, half price does matter a lot, even if there may be as or even more price-worthy ones.
Super Paper Mario was supposed to come for Gamecube, evil Nintendo releasing it for Wii only. I want my super paper mario damnit! ;/
Sadly enough most people are probably not to bothered with that since they end up buying all the same games anyway. (Mario galaxy, Zelda, maybe smash bros as you mention, metroid, mario kart, whatever more.)
Over here in Sweden the only games advertised for the DS is still Nintendogs and New super mario bros (and earlier mario kart). Sure there is a lot of games for the DS, sure there are better titles than those, sure there are newer titles than those, sure there are more interesting and fresh titles than those... Doesn't matter, it seems, because everyone seem to buy what they recognise / their friends have anyway.
But if I was new to the DS I would be wondering if that was all it had and if there never came any new games and such. I can't understand why they show the same old crap. Where is castlevania, megaman, kirby, advanced wars, final fantasy, the new probotector and so on?
Ompa-Lompa-Dibidi-Doo
No news that Nintendo consoles live long and that the service is excellent. That many people have replaced their PS2 multiple times due to messed up laser, and the same for many people with their ring of death 360s as you mention.
Though I guess if one want to be evil one could say that's only because Nintendo update their (portable) consoles so you just "have" to buy the new version before the old one bites the dust so they get more sales that way instead :D
Yes, no.
Everything went as expected, but atm Xbox360 in it's simplest form sells at a much lower price than the Wii so at the current prices I don't really know if the winner would had been so obvious.
Even though I wished Nintendo all well and they have new controllers one can't deny the 360 has benefits over Wii as well.
The PS3? Even better but cost twice as much as the cheapest 360 which is a factor. Also as long as it don't have a lot of games only for PS3 obviously less people will be interested.
Ok, then I have no idea why ADSL behaves that way, but it does.
Me not knowing was the reason for "believe."
TL:DR.
Anyway, the retards could probably not work the machine, messed up and blame the machine for their stupidity.
Mac. No need for XP.
No, not solely on appearance.
Ok, so it did really make it read-only. I have a hard time of seeing the purpose then. Sure mostly writes but maybe also some reads of the changed files will get faster from RAM but, uhm, I guess one may at some time keep the changes (even if one could turn it off.)
Do one really want to spend more of the often small amount of ram on the netbook? Though I guess you have installed more than the standard amount.
Guess ENV on Amiga may have worked a little like this, it hold settings for various apps and lived on the harddrive but at boot it was copied to RAM: instead and the new drawer was assigned ENV: instead of the one on the harddrive. So any reads or writes to ENV: and those files would end up on RAM instead off the harddrive (I guess installers which wrote content for it force-wrote them to the destination harddrive instead.)
(Normally you always had the option to store commands, libs, environmental configuration and things like that either in the program dir, in a system wide dir or in this case in ram and it didn't mattered where you had chosen to put them. So I for instance used to move all the libs out to libs: for the system wide dir instead in case whatever application held a newer version which I already had. Sounds kinda like a bad idea today if the APIs had changed but I guess people was more aware of it back then and didn't remove old stuff because I never ran into troubles from it.)
Yeah I followed it and saw that it seemed to be for whole discs and then I followed rule of TL:DR.
I got the impression it limited writes on a disk, and I couldn't see the purpose for that.
Could you explain the EWF-stuff a little? What it does, how it helped and some kind of step by step guide on how you got and installed it? Never heard of it before.
But I neither do have a Windows machine or an intrest to figure out why it did suck again. Why test software which sucks? So I'd better inform others about it and then they can skip it :D
LOL again: Anything which looks like this must suck, period :D. Custom interfaces ftw! Not.
http://www.snapfiles.com/screenshots/avast.htm
"Flamebait"? lol? Yeah what a flamebait that I mention that the free version is annoying in some way, no matter what if it's popups, boxes about new upgrades, sounds, lots of yes/no-questions, whatever ...
It was so fucking annoying that I replaced it fast, I just don't remember what it did!
Also in some tests back in the days it used to find like around 80% of the viruses or something, but whatever.