Yeah, but sadly enough this isn't a perfect world, if he want support for most of it all he will have to live with using a KDE/QT client or he can choose to use something else but will have to run multiple ones. Tough luck.
I doubt they have broken much in webkit, and I doubt it's that they only have say 5% of the browser done. It's more likely that they have say 5% of the MAC SPECIFIC part of the browser done. So things like threading, user interface and whatever more mac specific may be left.
Maybe that is why they kind of included a nocd-patch so to speak, maybe they didn't do it to make it more convenient for people with CDs but just to make it possible/easier to download the game thru the store. Suck in that case, hopefully some mix of both.
Personally I appreciate how Blizzard had the sense to remove the look-for-CD-protection in Warcraft III, of course a cd key is still required to play on battle net.
Their stupid requirement of having to use the CD and the risk of getting banned from bnet by patching the game or whatever made me use the original one ending up with big enough scratches on the CDs for being unable to install the game, for one of the discs to validate as a genuine one and finally this: http://cdcrack.istheshit.net/
I have no idea but I would expect the energy requirements to be massive, even thought it's very low masses they are working with.
Also the piece of said equipment they was close to gaining control of was a 25.000 ton magnet or whatever the story said, try to keep that one in your pocket =P
"Is that a particle accelerator in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?"
It would be a little to easy / same thing if I had chosen the on Slashdot so popular "Is that a large hardon in your pocket or...", or maybe even "Is that a particle accelerator in your pocket or are you just having a large hardon?" Lame.
My wifi isn't there I'm always is... Or well, it would be I hadn't stumbled upon the power adapter and broken it... Because I don't leave my apartment that much, but for most other people it would be an issue =P
Know any client which uses it? Except truphone? Though if truphone runs on the iPhone I guess the step into running it on OS X can't be that huge? At least if it's a native app.
Lots of SIP clients with video, X-lite, Gizmo, SightSpeed, the two laters have their own networks so I'm not 100% sure they use SIP for it but they probably do. Probably more clients but I haven't used SIP with video so unless I've noticed it directly I'm not very likely to remember it.
As the other guy already mentioned aalib have been there for long. You can for instance play quake in ASCII only, or use mplayer to play matrix in ASCII;/
Trillians version which you pay for does video to, I belive. I don't like trillian though, you could try to become a trillian astra betatester.
Oh, sorry, didn't remember this was for Linux.
Empathy did video over SIP and XMPP atleast. Some sip clients offer XMPP support (such as Gizmo) so if you could get your friends to use Gizmo or any other SIP client which does video you could use that, but no, not with AIM.
As Pidgin doesn't do video I guess Kopete is just best Linux choice, even though it uses QT instead of GTK (though I don't understand why anyone would prefer Gnome over KDE but that's just me and not the purpose of this thread so let's not discuss that =P)
Said program was also uploaded on demonoid not long time ago, or so I've heard;/
What I find even more hillarious is that little snitch also calls home and validates it's license, AND THE APPLICATION IS MADE JUST TO PROVENT THIS METHOD FOR ALL OTHER APPLICATIONS:D
Sure one may have legal reasons to not let them do that, and therefor have licensed software, but I would assume most people use little snitch to run pirated copies with invalid licenses. I for sure do... uhm, would do;/
Yeah but I would prefer it people went for a "better" solution, Skype will probably never be the final communication for all platform, just because it's closed and others will make their product. However something standard based and open may eventually get there because it won't make sense to try to make your own product if everyone else can already talk to eachother using the standard way.
The only problem is that development of the open thing seems to take such an awful long time. Which may partly be because of to many chefs I guess. (Google would probably have the power to throw in a lot of RFCs with their ideas, implement them in their client and others would follow.)
I don't know exact prices for the products, I knew the Touch was 299 and 399 when released and iPhone 499, or something like that.
Also I'm from Sweden so we wouldn't use AT&T and prices are probably different to.
Neither product intrest me unless I can get an iPhone for cheap and open it myself, I won't pay someone else hundreds of dollars more just because they could get one in the first place, and I won't buy a Touch as long as there exist better players.
While you are correct I have no idea how it actually worked and I was assuming the data travled around thru multiple peers before it reached it's destination (I've also understand that it sends some random data every now and then to cover the real traffic) it still seems to be partly correct:
"If both clients are only allowed to do outgoing TCP calls are routed through another peer."
Most people run software firewalls, have a nat router, and so on. Most people have no idea how to configure said equipment, lots of people will not be able to keep a port for skype open, lots of people will have their stuff routed thru other peers.
Sure my calls using SIP passes my SIP provider, but I'd rather trust them then some random peer on the Internet. Especially in a network there everything is hidden and no one (supposedly) can see what is happening.
Ok, webpage only mentioned Windows, so I guessed someone took over development of wengophone and only cared about Windows, my misstake then, or well, theirs with the webpage =P
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Except it's expensive equipment I don't see what makes it that obviously "important."
But I guess it can give people skill points in the right crowds.
Yeah, but sadly enough this isn't a perfect world, if he want support for most of it all he will have to live with using a KDE/QT client or he can choose to use something else but will have to run multiple ones. Tough luck.
My sister is part of the blue e-crowd.
I've tried removing the icon on her desktop, but that just makes her confused and annoyed =P
As if it would be a big deal anyway, even less so when each tab is an individual process which makes for 4GB of RAM / tab anyway, I guess?
I doubt they have broken much in webkit, and I doubt it's that they only have say 5% of the browser done. It's more likely that they have say 5% of the MAC SPECIFIC part of the browser done. So things like threading, user interface and whatever more mac specific may be left.
no, it suck.
their own distribution with Linux hidden underneath, I doubt they will fork the kernel.
Maybe that is why they kind of included a nocd-patch so to speak, maybe they didn't do it to make it more convenient for people with CDs but just to make it possible/easier to download the game thru the store. Suck in that case, hopefully some mix of both.
Personally I appreciate how Blizzard had the sense to remove the look-for-CD-protection in Warcraft III, of course a cd key is still required to play on battle net.
Their stupid requirement of having to use the CD and the risk of getting banned from bnet by patching the game or whatever made me use the original one ending up with big enough scratches on the CDs for being unable to install the game, for one of the discs to validate as a genuine one and finally this:
http://cdcrack.istheshit.net/
I have no idea but I would expect the energy requirements to be massive, even thought it's very low masses they are working with.
Also the piece of said equipment they was close to gaining control of was a 25.000 ton magnet or whatever the story said, try to keep that one in your pocket =P
"Is that a particle accelerator in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?"
It would be a little to easy / same thing if I had chosen the on Slashdot so popular "Is that a large hardon in your pocket or ...", or maybe even "Is that a particle accelerator in your pocket or are you just having a large hardon?" Lame.
My wifi isn't there I'm always is... Or well, it would be I hadn't stumbled upon the power adapter and broken it... Because I don't leave my apartment that much, but for most other people it would be an issue =P
Do you know which of those supports webcam, eventually SIP and also runs on OS X?
FreeSwitch seemed to hit most of the right spots except it seems to be a server and not a client =P
Kopete + Decibel seems cool, didn't know they would get the same functionality as Empathy.
Sadly Gtalk seem to be the only one of all those which runs on OS X (unless one install QT/Gnome/...)
Know any client which uses it? Except truphone? Though if truphone runs on the iPhone I guess the step into running it on OS X can't be that huge? At least if it's a native app.
Lots of SIP clients with video, X-lite, Gizmo, SightSpeed, the two laters have their own networks so I'm not 100% sure they use SIP for it but they probably do. Probably more clients but I haven't used SIP with video so unless I've noticed it directly I'm not very likely to remember it.
And he had two quite ok options, trillian in Windows and Kopete in KDE.
As the other guy already mentioned aalib have been there for long. You can for instance play quake in ASCII only, or use mplayer to play matrix in ASCII ;/
bwah, don't ask me why I typed % ;/
If you decide to do suicide within the same day you can be pretty sure, but not really sure, when your life end ;D
Trillians version which you pay for does video to, I belive. I don't like trillian though, you could try to become a trillian astra betatester.
Oh, sorry, didn't remember this was for Linux.
Empathy did video over SIP and XMPP atleast. Some sip clients offer XMPP support (such as Gizmo) so if you could get your friends to use Gizmo or any other SIP client which does video you could use that, but no, not with AIM.
As Pidgin doesn't do video I guess Kopete is just best Linux choice, even though it uses QT instead of GTK (though I don't understand why anyone would prefer Gnome over KDE but that's just me and not the purpose of this thread so let's not discuss that =P)
Said program was also uploaded on demonoid not long time ago, or so I've heard ;/
What I find even more hillarious is that little snitch also calls home and validates it's license, AND THE APPLICATION IS MADE JUST TO PROVENT THIS METHOD FOR ALL OTHER APPLICATIONS :D
Sure one may have legal reasons to not let them do that, and therefor have licensed software, but I would assume most people use little snitch to run pirated copies with invalid licenses. I for sure do... uhm, would do ;/
Yeah but I would prefer it people went for a "better" solution, Skype will probably never be the final communication for all platform, just because it's closed and others will make their product. However something standard based and open may eventually get there because it won't make sense to try to make your own product if everyone else can already talk to eachother using the standard way.
The only problem is that development of the open thing seems to take such an awful long time. Which may partly be because of to many chefs I guess. (Google would probably have the power to throw in a lot of RFCs with their ideas, implement them in their client and others would follow.)
I don't know exact prices for the products, I knew the Touch was 299 and 399 when released and iPhone 499, or something like that.
Also I'm from Sweden so we wouldn't use AT&T and prices are probably different to.
Neither product intrest me unless I can get an iPhone for cheap and open it myself, I won't pay someone else hundreds of dollars more just because they could get one in the first place, and I won't buy a Touch as long as there exist better players.
While you are correct I have no idea how it actually worked and I was assuming the data travled around thru multiple peers before it reached it's destination (I've also understand that it sends some random data every now and then to cover the real traffic) it still seems to be partly correct:
"If both clients are only allowed to do outgoing TCP calls are routed through another peer."
Most people run software firewalls, have a nat router, and so on. Most people have no idea how to configure said equipment, lots of people will not be able to keep a port for skype open, lots of people will have their stuff routed thru other peers.
Sure my calls using SIP passes my SIP provider, but I'd rather trust them then some random peer on the Internet. Especially in a network there everything is hidden and no one (supposedly) can see what is happening.
I thought you didn't used are about things, stupid english :D
Ok, webpage only mentioned Windows, so I guessed someone took over development of wengophone and only cared about Windows, my misstake then, or well, theirs with the webpage =P
Missed that because their frontpage only mentions:
"Download QuteCom RC1 installer for Windows
http://www.qutecom.com/downloads/QuteCom-2.2-setup-rc1-183f96e5f4e9.exe"
Any idea if it is hard or possible to compile on os x? Sucks that there was no prebuilt package.