Make that "not connected to any network and they don't have physical access."
Grand parent: Probably so scientist at other locations can run and investigate the results and so on of their experiments on said equipment?
Sure they could like send a request to get something made and later returned the results but I guess for some tasks it's easier to control the equipment, see what's going on and change some parameters and so on yourself than having to ask someone else the whole time.
Sure if everyone had their own LHC this wouldn't be needed, but now I assume there is more users than there is LHCs..
I prefer not to use open wifi networks, if nothing else because I have no idea who is listening to MY connections. Fucking stupid to use an unknown network.
And yes, it's the UI of the iPhone which makes it nice, but also that it has it's own connection, the Touch is just a very crippled iPhone for 100 dollar less (locked..)
In that case isn't it just much smarter to install Windows on the computer he already have if anything?
Also iChat sucks balls, it looks like trash and don't support MSN at all so who cares if it does AIM video? Over here in Sweden no one seems to use ICQ or AIM longer and everyone use MSN and Skype. So I use Adium until I find an application which does SIP + XMPP with jingle webcam+voip. If I would use iChat I would have to run MSN over XMPP transport and try to convince everyone to install aim for webcam. Yeah right that will work!...
Stupid closed protocols, give me a jabber implementation which works.
Don't see to do webcam, also it was written in Java and eventually it does all protocols over XMPP transports? In that case why not just use gtalk or something such and don't be bothered with Java?
Secondary SIP account support is broken ftm though, at least in the OS X-version, so for me it's useless as a SIP client, for everything else adium is much better so until that is fixed there is no gizmo for me.
It's not compatible with anything else or uses some standard for anything, it has an encrypted binary of which the code is unknown, it uses encrypted network connections so you don't know what's going on there either, it sends your data around using P2P.
Imho it's the worst kind of IM client there is, except it works.
It's also compatible with nothing else, all code are unknown and it's proprietary like shit. Also you will have no idea what happens on the network and your communications is sent over P2P.
If it wasn't that he ask for the impossible with his cross platform requirements as well, rendering amsn, skype, gizmo, ekiga, kopete (don't ask me why but obviously it did), x-lite and probably a couple of other clients out of the question (I think I knew one for Gnome to but I can't remember the name.)
Personally I'd be happy enough if there was one client doing SIP + XMPP + jingle VoIP and webcam.
Except "but at the expense of performance and capability" don't have to be a fact, do it? Sure it could be an issue, but something which is always true?
But what the iPhone has for it is that to me it seems like one of the nicest phones. The iPod Touch however isn't one of the nicest mp3-player. I hate Apple vendor lockin (I have a macbook pro).
The only cool thing with iPod Touch is applications over any of the other mp3-players.
But if I'd get one it would be as a media player, and then:
Cowon D2 owns it on battery life, audio quality, codec support, memory card slot, price, radio,..
Sony NWZ-A82x on audio quality, atleast.
Samsung YP-P2 on screen resolution if anything, but maybe they are the same.
iRiver Spinn would be nice but with no memory card slot it's a huge failure, like everything from iRiver since the IFP-series.
Cowon S9 have high resolution, good battery life, awesome design, good codec support, will very likely sound better, and so on. No memory card slot though.
Multiple apps will probably mostly be seen as a gimmick anyway, I can't really think of anything I would really NEED on it.
No because the iPod Touch is just a shitty mp3-player, the iPhone (unlocked) offer so much more for the money.
Old Cowon D2 and Sandisk Sansa Fuse are both more likely candidate for me.
iRiver Spinn could have been good if they had keeped the memory card slot, similar for Cowon S9. S9 still looks like an awesome mp3 player, I'd sure take it over an iPod Touch.
You could had bought HTC modell with a keyboard which you pull out from underneath: Touch Pro (Raphael)
It's probably quite close to the iPhone but runs Windows instead.
Personally I think the iPhone looks very nice in functionality but there is no way in hell I'd "legally" buy one with subscription for the insane prices they are charging. Half a thousand dollars or so sure, but no subscription.
Also I don't like that Apple wants to decide what you want or should do, what you should get and so on. I'm not much of a phone user at all but if I would get a new one I guess I would get a cheap walkman series one from Sony-Ericsson or more likely wait for Google Android to get released and get a phone I can actually use as if it was mine and in any way I want.
I have 2 GB and Safari have to be killed every now and then to get them back, and sometimes it just hangs. I'd prefer recoverable memory bloat over continuously raising memory bloat.
I can get 4 GB and handle some more bloat / tab, but even if I had 100 GB as long as there is memory leaks it will run out.
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Yeah because they have to read their e-mails on the console of the LHC!! Only computer they have in the building!
.. not to forget spore, or do you only want to play for a week?
Oh wait, a week is enough, sorry.
Make that "not connected to any network and they don't have physical access."
Grand parent: Probably so scientist at other locations can run and investigate the results and so on of their experiments on said equipment?
Sure they could like send a request to get something made and later returned the results but I guess for some tasks it's easier to control the equipment, see what's going on and change some parameters and so on yourself than having to ask someone else the whole time.
Sure if everyone had their own LHC this wouldn't be needed, but now I assume there is more users than there is LHCs ..
Except Adam and Eve because they got no apples so they was all grumpy.
I prefer not to use open wifi networks, if nothing else because I have no idea who is listening to MY connections. Fucking stupid to use an unknown network.
And yes, it's the UI of the iPhone which makes it nice, but also that it has it's own connection, the Touch is just a very crippled iPhone for 100 dollar less (locked ..)
A FUCKING PHONE.
Maps and surfing the web won't work very good while not in wifi range either.
I don't know how good the calendar is.
In that case isn't it just much smarter to install Windows on the computer he already have if anything?
Also iChat sucks balls, it looks like trash and don't support MSN at all so who cares if it does AIM video? Over here in Sweden no one seems to use ICQ or AIM longer and everyone use MSN and Skype. So I use Adium until I find an application which does SIP + XMPP with jingle webcam+voip. If I would use iChat I would have to run MSN over XMPP transport and try to convince everyone to install aim for webcam. Yeah right that will work! ...
Stupid closed protocols, give me a jabber implementation which works.
Don't see to do webcam, also it was written in Java and eventually it does all protocols over XMPP transports? In that case why not just use gtalk or something such and don't be bothered with Java?
Secondary SIP account support is broken ftm though, at least in the OS X-version, so for me it's useless as a SIP client, for everything else adium is much better so until that is fixed there is no gizmo for me.
... is Windows only, and VengoPhone crashes immediately on my mac.
Webpage doesn't mention webcam, voip, ..
I'd much rather use aMSN or even more so future aMSN2 then mercury. Try it out, it runs on OS X to, much slower than Adium obviously but anyway.
http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=961481&cid=24971661
It's not compatible with anything else or uses some standard for anything, it has an encrypted binary of which the code is unknown, it uses encrypted network connections so you don't know what's going on there either, it sends your data around using P2P.
Imho it's the worst kind of IM client there is, except it works.
Yeah but does it work with a black eeepc?
It's also compatible with nothing else, all code are unknown and it's proprietary like shit. Also you will have no idea what happens on the network and your communications is sent over P2P.
Greeeeat!!! / Tony.
works ok if you look your best in ascii encoded video I guess ;)
Though what have been done is voip and video for XMPP which isn't undocumented.
If it wasn't that he ask for the impossible with his cross platform requirements as well, rendering amsn, skype, gizmo, ekiga, kopete (don't ask me why but obviously it did), x-lite and probably a couple of other clients out of the question (I think I knew one for Gnome to but I can't remember the name.)
Personally I'd be happy enough if there was one client doing SIP + XMPP + jingle VoIP and webcam.
Except "but at the expense of performance and capability" don't have to be a fact, do it? Sure it could be an issue, but something which is always true?
But what the iPhone has for it is that to me it seems like one of the nicest phones. The iPod Touch however isn't one of the nicest mp3-player. I hate Apple vendor lockin (I have a macbook pro).
The only cool thing with iPod Touch is applications over any of the other mp3-players.
But if I'd get one it would be as a media player, and then:
Cowon D2 owns it on battery life, audio quality, codec support, memory card slot, price, radio, ..
Sony NWZ-A82x on audio quality, atleast.
Samsung YP-P2 on screen resolution if anything, but maybe they are the same.
iRiver Spinn would be nice but with no memory card slot it's a huge failure, like everything from iRiver since the IFP-series.
Cowon S9 have high resolution, good battery life, awesome design, good codec support, will very likely sound better, and so on. No memory card slot though.
Multiple apps will probably mostly be seen as a gimmick anyway, I can't really think of anything I would really NEED on it.
No because the iPod Touch is just a shitty mp3-player, the iPhone (unlocked) offer so much more for the money.
Old Cowon D2 and Sandisk Sansa Fuse are both more likely candidate for me.
iRiver Spinn could have been good if they had keeped the memory card slot, similar for Cowon S9. S9 still looks like an awesome mp3 player, I'd sure take it over an iPod Touch.
You could had bought HTC modell with a keyboard which you pull out from underneath: Touch Pro (Raphael)
It's probably quite close to the iPhone but runs Windows instead.
Personally I think the iPhone looks very nice in functionality but there is no way in hell I'd "legally" buy one with subscription for the insane prices they are charging. Half a thousand dollars or so sure, but no subscription.
Also I don't like that Apple wants to decide what you want or should do, what you should get and so on. I'm not much of a phone user at all but if I would get a new one I guess I would get a cheap walkman series one from Sony-Ericsson or more likely wait for Google Android to get released and get a phone I can actually use as if it was mine and in any way I want.
Directional antenna on the 2.4 GHz band?
Didn't see that one coming.
I have 2 GB and Safari have to be killed every now and then to get them back, and sometimes it just hangs. I'd prefer recoverable memory bloat over continuously raising memory bloat.
I can get 4 GB and handle some more bloat / tab, but even if I had 100 GB as long as there is memory leaks it will run out.