Yeah, I agree that taking existing DNA and modifying it, even if it involves reducing it to "no function", isn't creating new life.
I guess it would be nice if the robots could make the material they need themself, but if they don't it's not a stoping point for calling it life imho. I don't know if I would call reproducing robots life thought, maybe, but not equal to us atleast =P (some people would say the same about animals but those people just suck.) (even less people would say the same thing about black people, jews, muslims or whatever but they just suck even more.)
Plants still needs water, coaldioxide and sun light to do their thing, and we need water, oxygen and food, sure we can collect those things, but that's only (or well, us human could fix this issue I guess but no other animal) because they are already there for us to use, we would fail in an environment without them.
So it's ok for robots to pick up premade steel bars or whatever;D
"most people will take something for free if they can and there isn't much risk involved."
Personally I would only do it if noone gets hurt by my action.
So download programs are ok, using drugs would be aswell (could be discussed if it hurt people thought). Stealing someones mp3-player, bicycle and so on isn't.
They are only an exception if you decide in advance that you don't want to affect them. Most people would see them as computers with oses as everything else.
But I _CAN'T_ buy a mac elsethere, that was the whole fucking point, and fuck your appliance bullshit, with other computers I can buy and have plenty of configurations.
They sell in my configuration, but they are crippling the hardware just because they know people have no other option han buying their more expensive stuff, which suck, and only a mac lunatic such as yourself would try to defend it or see it as a good thing..
I'm a vegan, I don't want no fucking leather, and it's more expensive because it cost more, the 128MB vram of the macbook pro is more like if Mercedes would had puked all over the seat and then put a dead body in the car for 1 week just so they could say "oh, you don't want that threatment? Pay us 30% more and we won't do it!"
The market of Apple/macs/OSX machines don't have any competition at all asshole.
I can't upgrade VRAM useless idiot, I can upgrade the HDD possibly affecting the warranty, and the RAM without doing so.
Thought hacks works pretty good, but I guess noone can force Apple to write support for whatever hardware.
I don't understand why Apple should be an exception however, and if they wheren't allowed to bundle their OS to the hardware maybe they would try to sell as much hardware AND as much OS as possible and therefor expand hardware support themself. Anyway I hate how I'm locked in to the few configurations offered by Apple, and that I had to buy a new computer I really didn't needed just to run OS X legally and without disturbancies. I wanted 256MB vram without paying like 700 dollar (europe prices) more for it because Apple decided I also wanted top of the line CPU and 40GB more HDD space. They would never get by with such shit configurations in a competive market.
I would say that we can call something life no matter HOW it came to exist, why does that matter?
Regarding all your other steps I don't see why a robot reproducing couldn't use whatever materials are available for him/her/it, it's not like I need to have other humans which create oxygen, water, carbohydrates, protein, fats, vitamins, minerals and antioxidants for my survival, it's ok for me to get them from wherever and still count as a life form, isn't it?
Well, I'm 100% sure that in the end all life IS chemical reactions, only. (Or eventually physical reactions, in the case of something nuclear driven or similair. Ok, make it 0-100% then.)
Quite obvious: They figured that very few would be intrested to buy the product if it costed whatever amount if would cost more than a regular drive if it has 2GB of flash memory. That was the first thing which springed into my mind and I thought 2GB of regular flash memory would add to much on the price, but it seems like it doesn't use the kind of flash memory we are used to but a more reliable one which cost more, see beneath:
"These first-generation hybrid drives incorporate only 256MB of NAND flash, a pittance in comparison with the 2GB USB flash drive you can buy today for $20. But the memory in the older drive is typically multilevel cell flash (MLC) as opposed to the more reliable--and more expensive--single-level cell flash (SLC) that hybrid drives, as well as SSD models, use. Manufacturers say they decided on 256MB of flash in hybrid drives as an entry point that wouldn't throw the cost of the product out of whack when compared with the cost of a standard 2.5-inch hard drive." http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,138102-page,2-c,harddrives/article.html#
My guess is that they are comparing it to the one with the PS2 hardware and just won't advertise any backwards compatility, even if it is there in software or not, since it requires so much work to get more/all titles running.
I would say that playing aggresive is always better in RTS (atleast in wc3 there you can do more stuff than fighting the opponent) because even thought having the fight in your own base may give you some advantages the benefits of choosing WHEN to fight is a major one. If you attack you have probably waited until the right moment, but the attack may come at a very bad time for the defender.
Well, if you americans stopped flattering yourself beliving every action in the world surrounds around you, you wouldn't care if it could handle the F-22 or not. Because, you know, just because they make their own plane when you don't let them buy yours doesn't mean they are after you... It might save you some military budget, annoying comments on Internet forums and lifes of your soldiers aswell.
Guess not, I don't know what hardware it got but I think I read the Classic II got a 14MHz CPU so probably M68000. My M68030 @ 50MHz Amiga 1200 could only play mp3s when you choosed 22kHz and mono if I remember correctly (thought then the best the Amiga could do was 8 bit 22kHz anyway.), I don't think I had to choose 11kHz but I might had to, I think I mostly choosed it to have some cpu power left.. The LC II probably have "much" slower hardware than that.
I bought my Motorola W220 for 350 sek unlocked (thought then I had switched to another operator to be able to switch back to free 12 months "call everyone else on the same network for free" subscription to get another 300 sek of, so 650 sek, anyway basic phone.)
My Sony Ericsson z300 or whatever it's called was bought for 250 sek used.
Locked it later on or from the begining? If it was locked from the begining why did you bought it if you didn't wanted it locked. Sounds kind of stupid.
I know it never come back, I belive one is a retard if one pays for music to allofmp3 and I would never do it.
Still they are the only service I know of which spread music by only paying a similair fee such as a radio station would do, so it's the only thing I can compare with. Just say they paid the same fee in USA or whatever your country are and that it would reach the right organizations (even thought it would be a low amount.)
With long time ago what do you mean? Less piracy of movies and software? Or some other form there it's not throwd (right word?) upon? Personally I don't think it's right to take someone else work if they don't want to, it's their to decide what they want to do with it. But then I still do it with stuff since I can't afford it all and I don't see it hurting them so much. Sort of like most people do I guess. (Say I was into music and wanted to play around with some 1000 dollar software just for fun, then it's not the same as if I was a musican earning millions of my music later on.. imho.)
But then they complain with services such as allofmp3 which "has paid for distributing them".
Are we all done if I pay a similair fee as the radio for bringing a music tracker up (not 100% comparable since I'm not the one actually having the song, but say open up my own online store then.)?
"The Artist formerly known as Prince should know that with behaviour like this he will soon be the Artist Formerly Available in Record Stores"
I bet he's shaking! With lots of concerts, the publicity if they cut him of due to him giving away CDs and 80 million records sold he's sure to be forgotten! And if most of his income come from concerts and similair I guess he don't care that much if they are sold or not.
This is actually great because the sooner well known artists are cut of from the ties with the record industry and sold in online store there more and all the money goes to the artist or the artist let it totally free and decide to promote him- or herself in some other way such as this the better. More listeners, more friendly community, more live performance/music happnenings and similair for your money, eventually more money for the artist in the end, what is there to lose?
I hope it develops into something better for the artists aswell.
(In related activitiys I guess the same could be said of pirated video VS large cinema events but then the problem are that some people eventually prefer to see movies at home instead, I don't know how to fix that issue. I'd rather say cinemas are dead and we don't need them but I don't know how the movie industry shall get their money. Same for the software industry in the cases there you can't charge for support of the product or sell related goods.)
Sure that one doesn't cover web usage, but without stupid Flash it would probably do decent in that area aswell.. Some more ram usage and so on is ok but the current rate and state are ridiculous.
I've used claris works on mac classics and LC IIs myself and I prefered it to works on win 3.11 on the 386s, and for most peoples use it would be sufficient today aswell..
No, time machine probably doesn't use ZFS atm and is implemented in some other way, read-only ZFS support are rather useless but probably easier to implement, and if Apple had got it all working (and Sun got it bootable, maybe they had now, it was a long time since I read about it) I guess they might had switched filesystems, or offer it as an option, or use it in timemachine.
Anyway we will hopefully see it in a minor release update, I just hope they don't call it beta just to remove it later and not release it for real in 10.6 =P
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But if it's just another tyran who wants to do the same thing how does it improve your life? Also I never notice the viagraspams anyway..
I know your signature says it all, but anyway:
;D
Yeah, I agree that taking existing DNA and modifying it, even if it involves reducing it to "no function", isn't creating new life.
I guess it would be nice if the robots could make the material they need themself, but if they don't it's not a stoping point for calling it life imho. I don't know if I would call reproducing robots life thought, maybe, but not equal to us atleast =P (some people would say the same about animals but those people just suck.) (even less people would say the same thing about black people, jews, muslims or whatever but they just suck even more.)
Plants still needs water, coaldioxide and sun light to do their thing, and we need water, oxygen and food, sure we can collect those things, but that's only (or well, us human could fix this issue I guess but no other animal) because they are already there for us to use, we would fail in an environment without them.
So it's ok for robots to pick up premade steel bars or whatever
Yeah, and there where probably 9 250 / 0.99 = 9 343.43434 downloads of each tune!
Yeah but you must understand that thanks to her the music is now freely available on the Internet!!
It's all her fault!
Zero day kazaa user!
"most people will take something for free if they can and there isn't much risk involved."
Personally I would only do it if noone gets hurt by my action.
So download programs are ok, using drugs would be aswell (could be discussed if it hurt people thought). Stealing someones mp3-player, bicycle and so on isn't.
For the first part of your comment I thought you where talking about the record labels and not the people. :)
Still made sense
They are only an exception if you decide in advance that you don't want to affect them. Most people would see them as computers with oses as everything else.
But I _CAN'T_ buy a mac elsethere, that was the whole fucking point, and fuck your appliance bullshit, with other computers I can buy and have plenty of configurations.
They sell in my configuration, but they are crippling the hardware just because they know people have no other option han buying their more expensive stuff, which suck, and only a mac lunatic such as yourself would try to defend it or see it as a good thing..
I'm a vegan, I don't want no fucking leather, and it's more expensive because it cost more, the 128MB vram of the macbook pro is more like if Mercedes would had puked all over the seat and then put a dead body in the car for 1 week just so they could say "oh, you don't want that threatment? Pay us 30% more and we won't do it!"
The market of Apple/macs/OSX machines don't have any competition at all asshole.
I can't upgrade VRAM useless idiot, I can upgrade the HDD possibly affecting the warranty, and the RAM without doing so.
Thought hacks works pretty good, but I guess noone can force Apple to write support for whatever hardware.
I don't understand why Apple should be an exception however, and if they wheren't allowed to bundle their OS to the hardware maybe they would try to sell as much hardware AND as much OS as possible and therefor expand hardware support themself. Anyway I hate how I'm locked in to the few configurations offered by Apple, and that I had to buy a new computer I really didn't needed just to run OS X legally and without disturbancies. I wanted 256MB vram without paying like 700 dollar (europe prices) more for it because Apple decided I also wanted top of the line CPU and 40GB more HDD space. They would never get by with such shit configurations in a competive market.
I would say that we can call something life no matter HOW it came to exist, why does that matter?
Regarding all your other steps I don't see why a robot reproducing couldn't use whatever materials are available for him/her/it, it's not like I need to have other humans which create oxygen, water, carbohydrates, protein, fats, vitamins, minerals and antioxidants for my survival, it's ok for me to get them from wherever and still count as a life form, isn't it?
Well, I'm 100% sure that in the end all life IS chemical reactions, only. (Or eventually physical reactions, in the case of something nuclear driven or similair. Ok, make it 0-100% then.)
Quite obvious:
They figured that very few would be intrested to buy the product if it costed whatever amount if would cost more than a regular drive if it has 2GB of flash memory.
That was the first thing which springed into my mind and I thought 2GB of regular flash memory would add to much on the price, but it seems like it doesn't use the kind of flash memory we are used to but a more reliable one which cost more, see beneath:
"These first-generation hybrid drives incorporate only 256MB of NAND flash, a pittance in comparison with the 2GB USB flash drive you can buy today for $20. But the memory in the older drive is typically multilevel cell flash (MLC) as opposed to the more reliable--and more expensive--single-level cell flash (SLC) that hybrid drives, as well as SSD models, use. Manufacturers say they decided on 256MB of flash in hybrid drives as an entry point that wouldn't throw the cost of the product out of whack when compared with the cost of a standard 2.5-inch hard drive."
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,138102-page,2-c,harddrives/article.html#
My guess is that they are comparing it to the one with the PS2 hardware and just won't advertise any backwards compatility, even if it is there in software or not, since it requires so much work to get more/all titles running.
I would say that playing aggresive is always better in RTS (atleast in wc3 there you can do more stuff than fighting the opponent) because even thought having the fight in your own base may give you some advantages the benefits of choosing WHEN to fight is a major one. If you attack you have probably waited until the right moment, but the attack may come at a very bad time for the defender.
Just encrypt the real mails with GPG and it won't matter if they "read" it.
Just force everyone else to use it aswell.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCk
Well, if you americans stopped flattering yourself beliving every action in the world surrounds around you, you wouldn't care if it could handle the F-22 or not.
Because, you know, just because they make their own plane when you don't let them buy yours doesn't mean they are after you...
It might save you some military budget, annoying comments on Internet forums and lifes of your soldiers aswell.
Guess not, I don't know what hardware it got but I think I read the Classic II got a 14MHz CPU so probably M68000.
;D
My M68030 @ 50MHz Amiga 1200 could only play mp3s when you choosed 22kHz and mono if I remember correctly (thought then the best the Amiga could do was 8 bit 22kHz anyway.), I don't think I had to choose 11kHz but I might had to, I think I mostly choosed it to have some cpu power left..
The LC II probably have "much" slower hardware than that.
What is wrong with modules anyway?
http://www.scenemusic.eu/
I bought my Motorola W220 for 350 sek unlocked (thought then I had switched to another operator to be able to switch back to free 12 months "call everyone else on the same network for free" subscription to get another 300 sek of, so 650 sek, anyway basic phone.)
My Sony Ericsson z300 or whatever it's called was bought for 250 sek used.
We have plenty of basic phones in Sweden.
Locked it later on or from the begining? If it was locked from the begining why did you bought it if you didn't wanted it locked. Sounds kind of stupid.
I know it never come back, I belive one is a retard if one pays for music to allofmp3 and I would never do it.
Still they are the only service I know of which spread music by only paying a similair fee such as a radio station would do, so it's the only thing I can compare with. Just say they paid the same fee in USA or whatever your country are and that it would reach the right organizations (even thought it would be a low amount.)
With long time ago what do you mean? Less piracy of movies and software? Or some other form there it's not throwd (right word?) upon?
Personally I don't think it's right to take someone else work if they don't want to, it's their to decide what they want to do with it. But then I still do it with stuff since I can't afford it all and I don't see it hurting them so much. Sort of like most people do I guess.
(Say I was into music and wanted to play around with some 1000 dollar software just for fun, then it's not the same as if I was a musican earning millions of my music later on.. imho.)
But then they complain with services such as allofmp3 which "has paid for distributing them".
Are we all done if I pay a similair fee as the radio for bringing a music tracker up (not 100% comparable since I'm not the one actually having the song, but say open up my own online store then.)?
"The Artist formerly known as Prince should know that with behaviour like this he will soon be the Artist Formerly Available in Record Stores"
I bet he's shaking!
With lots of concerts, the publicity if they cut him of due to him giving away CDs and 80 million records sold he's sure to be forgotten!
And if most of his income come from concerts and similair I guess he don't care that much if they are sold or not.
This is actually great because the sooner well known artists are cut of from the ties with the record industry and sold in online store there more and all the money goes to the artist or the artist let it totally free and decide to promote him- or herself in some other way such as this the better.
More listeners, more friendly community, more live performance/music happnenings and similair for your money, eventually more money for the artist in the end, what is there to lose?
I hope it develops into something better for the artists aswell.
(In related activitiys I guess the same could be said of pirated video VS large cinema events but then the problem are that some people eventually prefer to see movies at home instead, I don't know how to fix that issue. I'd rather say cinemas are dead and we don't need them but I don't know how the movie industry shall get their money.
Same for the software industry in the cases there you can't charge for support of the product or sell related goods.)
Uncensored porn?
I love this video for how good it shows how little has actually changed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cxbstn2IZM
Sure that one doesn't cover web usage, but without stupid Flash it would probably do decent in that area aswell.. Some more ram usage and so on is ok but the current rate and state are ridiculous.
I've used claris works on mac classics and LC IIs myself and I prefered it to works on win 3.11 on the 386s, and for most peoples use it would be sufficient today aswell..
No, time machine probably doesn't use ZFS atm and is implemented in some other way, read-only ZFS support are rather useless but probably easier to implement, and if Apple had got it all working (and Sun got it bootable, maybe they had now, it was a long time since I read about it) I guess they might had switched filesystems, or offer it as an option, or use it in timemachine.
Anyway we will hopefully see it in a minor release update, I just hope they don't call it beta just to remove it later and not release it for real in 10.6 =P