Yeah, cane sugar rocks? Or you guys could stop eating sugar, I guess most artificiall sweeteners are better, I didn't ate them for quite some time but then I started, a very recent (2004 or so) study suggest you might actually increase cancer risks with aspartame (the old mentions of this where only bullshit.) and I think you could get some urine blader(spelling) troubles from acesulphame-k (spelling..). Best thing is of course to don't consume those either, you can go a long way only from eating often and good food, and then that isn't enough fruit and nuts can help.
I'm sure it will get better with time, but still I want it enough stable so that I can trust the machine to work. Regarding gentoo and freebsd I didn't thought gentoo had binary packages? But maybe it does, but yes, mostly I install them from ports in freebsd anyway. But it's not really that I choose freebsd over gentoo because I didn't had to, it's more like because I have to in gentoo anyway I can just aswell use freebsd. We'll see, I really wanted to learn Solaris but I don't think I'll use it as a workstation os if a few (I've just found one or two) "necessary" open-source applications doesn't want to run right now. I'll probably install it on another machine which I can run X from remotely to learn without "beeing handicapped".
I don't think I'll try arch again since I've already "been burned" once, but who knows, if it got a bunch of positive reviews I might do it. But then most people are quite evengelistic about whichever dist/os/.. they choose so I guess you'll end up reading most of them are good. I don't know for sure which one I should use of gentoo, ubuntu or freebsd either, I'll guess gentoo will works atleast as good as freebsd but that I run it more because Linux already got enough users, the other alternatives need to have some to. Would be boring without any.
Oh how suprised I'm over "One thing it doesn't do is hold your hand.", it's not that, it is that it did work and they broke it, it's unstable crap, I don't want an os which becomes broken every now and then. It is crap, and it is broken, wtf do i "learn" from adding urls to whatever pacman (or well, ark or what they called the source code version) package building framework file? What do I learn from broken udev or whatever it was? Why do you remove something before you've got something else which works?
I used it like 6 months ago, the regular servers didn't had many packages, but many of them where reachable from other servers which often just contained 3-10 packages or so, so you had to find all those people which made packages themself and add them instead of using one site for all your package needs.
I'm not angry, but I don't want to walk thru all that shit, I don't want to make alsa packages myself just because some moron replaced the old working one with a broken one, I don't want to spend time trying to understand the dev issues of the linux kernel (I'm mostly running *BSD so I don't know much about devfs, udev and so on, so I have no idea what really happened, sure I could find out, and probably solve it by switching kernel version or building my own one with support for whatever it needed, but I'm simply not intrested in doing that, my workstation worked, then it didn't.)
I haven't used suse so I don't know how it is, it uses rpm and I'll stay away from it, but if you DO what a supported rpm-dist I think suse makes more sense than mandriva or redhat. I haven't used ubuntu, but I used debian back in the days of slink (2.1) and it was nice except the packages become quite old, ubuntu have solved this, and also the elitism in the community it seems. I've ran Gentoo 3-4 years ago but after a while I went back to FreeBSD, just wanted to see where Linux where. Gentoo is all right, but I don't think all the time used to build your own packages are worth it, and it probably makes people breaks things with their elite optimizations, was nice to have new versions of everything. FreeBSD have 13.800 ports nowadays thought so they aren't that much behind.
"Because they haven't really learned enough to fix their system when it breaks.", I shouldn't have to, I guess I've grown from the "fix all the broken stuff"-issue.
Well, when I used it, which was quite recently anyway, it WAS fast, it had new versions (so new they wasn't tested and therefor broken I guess..), but I had to make quite a few packages in ABS (that was what it was called...), and especially if that results in dependencies and so on you could almost just as easily have gone with no package manager at all. Me no like, I want to have all packages updated and served fast. Don't you think an os which breaks the mixer TWICE in less than a month and fucks up your usb device support is broken? What would you say if it was Windows?
I haven't used SUSE so I can't say it's better than arc, I just said these three probably fills their purpose, maybe Slackware instead of Arc aswell. I think you are better off with gentoo than arc for the same kinds of users. And to answer on your my e-penis are bigger than yours I've used Linux since 1995, sometimes thereabout (maybe 96) I installed RedHat on my home machine and a little while after that debian slink, I used debian until 98 when I installed FreeBSD on a machine with broken IDE controller, didn't got it working so I tried OpenBSD and got some help with turning off DMA or whatever was the issue and the system worked. Back then I ran OpenBSD at home, later replaced with NetBSD and when I got a new machine Gentoo, after that FreeBSD. I run an IRC server which ran OpenBSD which I upgraded from something like 2.5 to 3.5 without the system breaking (if it wasn't my fault due to CFLAGS), it runs NetBSD 2.0 now thought since I like the system layout of that OS a little more. The reason I installed archlinux where that I played the WOW beta and therefor installed Windows instead of
I've used archlinux 0.7, everything worked in the begining, got my sip-phone working and the free version of turboprint for my canon printer.
But then they upgraded alsa, oups, alsamixer was broken... I fixed this by creating my own package, but just a few days later a new package arrived which had a working alsamixer, to bad the capture device option where missing.
Also some upgrade fucked up whatever Linux calles their DEV-system (who follows?), so there wen't all usb devices away, no digital camera or printer. Yeah, good idea!
Also the pacman packages are spread all over the place, their own servers doesn't hold many packages so you have to add a lot of private mirrors for different things, and what isn't there you have to create your own package thought, which is really easy but anyway.
Sure you as they can always say that I can fix it myself and so on, but I'm not intrested in fixing things broken by others, it worked first, I don't want someone to screw up my machine, I don't want to have to fiddle around with it.
I don't give a shit if it's fast, or have new versions, it's crap and broken, it has few packages.
Not that I like many Linux dists at all, but I guess that depending on who you are Ubuntu, Gentoo or SUSE will fill your needs the best.
Probably because they value a japanese costumer more then an american one, since japan isn't a large market for the xbox and if it's going to be they need to get more consoles out. People in usa will buy it anyway.
The question is, is the editor as good as vim? is the irc client as good as irssi? is the mail client as good as mutt? is the news and rss readers as good as whatever? (never used news and i don't know if there are any other rss readers for the console, i would guess there is.)
If you run it all inside a screen with many windows it's quite conventient to.
Yeah, I won't use any of those crap products aslong as they don't speak SIP. Sure skype works behind a router and so on, but it's still not open and I have to have their clients and everyone can't talk to everyone. Sucks. Big time.
Kphone, gnomemeeting-opal, sjphone, x-lite, asterisk are the tools:D
Sure webpages get more and more crap, but there are still solutions, I saw the first post mentioned caches, but you can also block all ads, flash, embeded video, maybe there exists proxys which removes unneccesary stuff, and so on.
I really hope they are, just that over here Sony had quite a few adds then they released the PSP, I don't see much for it now thought. Nintendo run Gameboy Advanced and NDS game ads on TV. The media likes the looks of PSP thought. In stores back then I watched (september) the NDS stuff where always small in content and stucked away in the store, guess it's partly because we always get less software later;), with all the japanese content it would rock.
Hell of course you are going in for a disapointment if you compare anything to Amiga. Amiga rules! (whoever owns it and think they are the future for it doesn't, which is a sad story.)
Does the NDS still outsell the PSP? Here in Sweden I would guess the PSP is much more of a success, but then people are still amazed of whatever sex/nudity on tv, magazines,... so I guess crap sells here.
Also the price for the system as is was great if you considered all the software you got, even more so if you split it over those $360/year and got a service plan aswell. But now Sun are giving away the free software anyway so it's not such an important point but still intresting to point out. I'll install and test Studio 11, Studio Creator and Studio Enterprise real soon now.
Also I don't care that much if the code are open or not, I won't be looking anyway, I just like that it's free. Althought people need to earn money to, so just giving everything away doesn't work.
Java (Solaris) Enterprise System, some sort of server stuff I have no idea about;)
Sun studio, C/C++/Fortan IDE and compilers.
Bwah, can't figure out where I found it earlier, something like (might be the otehr way round): Java Studio Creator, JAVA IDE Java Studio Enterprise, JSP
Crap, this wasn't useful at all =P, anyway, together they all cover c/c++/fotran (with compilers), java and web development.
I agree on all points, simple colorful "nintendo graphics" looks great, we are talking games like say paper mario the thousand year door. Compare the gfx to something which is supposed to look "real" and it just look like shit.
I'm not a fan about teller voices either, but I don't like all the text dialogues in recent games either, it was enough of them in Zelda for the NES;D, that's about the amount I can handle.
Same goes for cinematic clips, I'm there to play a game, maybe just for 20 minutes, I don't want to look at crap for 5 minutes, if I was I would turn on a movie. They where ok in Warcraft 3 ROC/TFT thought, but that's because they are so short.
I just got one myself to, althought I also got a qoob sx, atleast I spent some cash on original accessories aswell.
Got a used chiped xbox with replaced harddrive when they was quite new, but I didn't played much. Can't say I play much on the cube either but atleast I play more, and there are more games I would consider playing.
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Yeah, cane sugar rocks?
Or you guys could stop eating sugar, I guess most artificiall sweeteners are better, I didn't ate them for quite some time but then I started, a very recent (2004 or so) study suggest you might actually increase cancer risks with aspartame (the old mentions of this where only bullshit.) and I think you could get some urine blader(spelling) troubles from acesulphame-k (spelling..). Best thing is of course to don't consume those either, you can go a long way only from eating often and good food, and then that isn't enough fruit and nuts can help.
:D, +10 ;/
I'm sure it will get better with time, but still I want it enough stable so that I can trust the machine to work. Regarding gentoo and freebsd I didn't thought gentoo had binary packages? But maybe it does, but yes, mostly I install them from ports in freebsd anyway. But it's not really that I choose freebsd over gentoo because I didn't had to, it's more like because I have to in gentoo anyway I can just aswell use freebsd. We'll see, I really wanted to learn Solaris but I don't think I'll use it as a workstation os if a few (I've just found one or two) "necessary" open-source applications doesn't want to run right now. I'll probably install it on another machine which I can run X from remotely to learn without "beeing handicapped".
I don't think I'll try arch again since I've already "been burned" once, but who knows, if it got a bunch of positive reviews I might do it. But then most people are quite evengelistic about whichever dist/os/.. they choose so I guess you'll end up reading most of them are good. I don't know for sure which one I should use of gentoo, ubuntu or freebsd either, I'll guess gentoo will works atleast as good as freebsd but that I run it more because Linux already got enough users, the other alternatives need to have some to. Would be boring without any.
Oh how suprised I'm over "One thing it doesn't do is hold your hand.", it's not that, it is that it did work and they broke it, it's unstable crap, I don't want an os which becomes broken every now and then.
It is crap, and it is broken, wtf do i "learn" from adding urls to whatever pacman (or well, ark or what they called the source code version) package building framework file? What do I learn from broken udev or whatever it was? Why do you remove something before you've got something else which works?
I used it like 6 months ago, the regular servers didn't had many packages, but many of them where reachable from other servers which often just contained 3-10 packages or so, so you had to find all those people which made packages themself and add them instead of using one site for all your package needs.
I'm not angry, but I don't want to walk thru all that shit, I don't want to make alsa packages myself just because some moron replaced the old working one with a broken one, I don't want to spend time trying to understand the dev issues of the linux kernel (I'm mostly running *BSD so I don't know much about devfs, udev and so on, so I have no idea what really happened, sure I could find out, and probably solve it by switching kernel version or building my own one with support for whatever it needed, but I'm simply not intrested in doing that, my workstation worked, then it didn't.)
I haven't used suse so I don't know how it is, it uses rpm and I'll stay away from it, but if you DO what a supported rpm-dist I think suse makes more sense than mandriva or redhat. I haven't used ubuntu, but I used debian back in the days of slink (2.1) and it was nice except the packages become quite old, ubuntu have solved this, and also the elitism in the community it seems. I've ran Gentoo 3-4 years ago but after a while I went back to FreeBSD, just wanted to see where Linux where. Gentoo is all right, but I don't think all the time used to build your own packages are worth it, and it probably makes people breaks things with their elite optimizations, was nice to have new versions of everything. FreeBSD have 13.800 ports nowadays thought so they aren't that much behind.
"Because they haven't really learned enough to fix their system when it breaks.", I shouldn't have to, I guess I've grown from the "fix all the broken stuff"-issue.
Well, when I used it, which was quite recently anyway, it WAS fast, it had new versions (so new they wasn't tested and therefor broken I guess..), but I had to make quite a few packages in ABS (that was what it was called...), and especially if that results in dependencies and so on you could almost just as easily have gone with no package manager at all. Me no like, I want to have all packages updated and served fast. Don't you think an os which breaks the mixer TWICE in less than a month and fucks up your usb device support is broken? What would you say if it was Windows?
I haven't used SUSE so I can't say it's better than arc, I just said these three probably fills their purpose, maybe Slackware instead of Arc aswell. I think you are better off with gentoo than arc for the same kinds of users.
And to answer on your my e-penis are bigger than yours I've used Linux since 1995, sometimes thereabout (maybe 96) I installed RedHat on my home machine and a little while after that debian slink, I used debian until 98 when I installed FreeBSD on a machine with broken IDE controller, didn't got it working so I tried OpenBSD and got some help with turning off DMA or whatever was the issue and the system worked. Back then I ran OpenBSD at home, later replaced with NetBSD and when I got a new machine Gentoo, after that FreeBSD. I run an IRC server which ran OpenBSD which I upgraded from something like 2.5 to 3.5 without the system breaking (if it wasn't my fault due to CFLAGS), it runs NetBSD 2.0 now thought since I like the system layout of that OS a little more.
The reason I installed archlinux where that I played the WOW beta and therefor installed Windows instead of
Yeah, your comment beat most on osnews...
I've used archlinux 0.7, everything worked in the begining, got my sip-phone working and the free version of turboprint for my canon printer.
But then they upgraded alsa, oups, alsamixer was broken...
I fixed this by creating my own package, but just a few days later a new package arrived which had a working alsamixer, to bad the capture device option where missing.
Also some upgrade fucked up whatever Linux calles their DEV-system (who follows?), so there wen't all usb devices away, no digital camera or printer. Yeah, good idea!
Also the pacman packages are spread all over the place, their own servers doesn't hold many packages so you have to add a lot of private mirrors for different things, and what isn't there you have to create your own package thought, which is really easy but anyway.
Sure you as they can always say that I can fix it myself and so on, but I'm not intrested in fixing things broken by others, it worked first, I don't want someone to screw up my machine, I don't want to have to fiddle around with it.
I don't give a shit if it's fast, or have new versions, it's crap and broken, it has few packages.
Not that I like many Linux dists at all, but I guess that depending on who you are Ubuntu, Gentoo or SUSE will fill your needs the best.
Probably because they value a japanese costumer more then an american one, since japan isn't a large market for the xbox and if it's going to be they need to get more consoles out. People in usa will buy it anyway.
The question is, is the editor as good as vim? is the irc client as good as irssi? is the mail client as good as mutt? is the news and rss readers as good as whatever? (never used news and i don't know if there are any other rss readers for the console, i would guess there is.)
If you run it all inside a screen with many windows it's quite conventient to.
Yeah, I won't use any of those crap products aslong as they don't speak SIP. Sure skype works behind a router and so on, but it's still not open and I have to have their clients and everyone can't talk to everyone. Sucks. Big time.
:D
Kphone, gnomemeeting-opal, sjphone, x-lite, asterisk are the tools
Of course you will be, DS + Rev/GC > Xbox360
Sure webpages get more and more crap, but there are still solutions, I saw the first post mentioned caches, but you can also block all ads, flash, embeded video, maybe there exists proxys which removes unneccesary stuff, and so on.
;)
Or you could move to Sweden or south Korea
I really hope they are, just that over here Sony had quite a few adds then they released the PSP, I don't see much for it now thought. Nintendo run Gameboy Advanced and NDS game ads on TV. The media likes the looks of PSP thought. In stores back then I watched (september) the NDS stuff where always small in content and stucked away in the store, guess it's partly because we always get less software later ;), with all the japanese content it would rock.
Trust me I've got games ;/ ;)
The problem is more that I don't sit down playing
Don't have konga but I can live without it.
This is oldnews to, the "nunchacky" (i have no idea how to spell that) controller was a confirmed one from the begining, and they talked about shells.
They have talked about a shell themself so that are already comfirmed i think, IGN made the muckup after that.
Hell of course you are going in for a disapointment if you compare anything to Amiga. Amiga rules! (whoever owns it and think they are the future for it doesn't, which is a sad story.)
Does the NDS still outsell the PSP? Here in Sweden I would guess the PSP is much more of a success, but then people are still amazed of whatever sex/nudity on tv, magazines, ... so I guess crap sells here.
For $99-149 I will to :) ;/
Just bought my gamecube 1-2 months ago to, have played to little thought
I like the search function in iTunes but that's about it, I more often plays music in Winamp in Windows. Amarok owns them both.
Also the price for the system as is was great if you considered all the software you got, even more so if you split it over those $360/year and got a service plan aswell.
But now Sun are giving away the free software anyway so it's not such an important point but still intresting to point out. I'll install and test Studio 11, Studio Creator and Studio Enterprise real soon now.
Also I don't care that much if the code are open or not, I won't be looking anyway, I just like that it's free. Althought people need to earn money to, so just giving everything away doesn't work.
Also MacOS X is far from beeing free even if you accept it cost some, since you have to pay for all the upgrades aswell by buying the OS once again.
I haven't used them but I think it's:
;)
Java (Solaris) Enterprise System, some sort of server stuff I have no idea about
Sun studio, C/C++/Fortan IDE and compilers.
Bwah, can't figure out where I found it earlier, something like (might be the otehr way round):
Java Studio Creator, JAVA IDE
Java Studio Enterprise, JSP
Crap, this wasn't useful at all =P, anyway, together they all cover c/c++/fotran (with compilers), java and web development.
I agree on all points, simple colorful "nintendo graphics" looks great, we are talking games like say paper mario the thousand year door. Compare the gfx to something which is supposed to look "real" and it just look like shit.
;D, that's about the amount I can handle.
I'm not a fan about teller voices either, but I don't like all the text dialogues in recent games either, it was enough of them in Zelda for the NES
Same goes for cinematic clips, I'm there to play a game, maybe just for 20 minutes, I don't want to look at crap for 5 minutes, if I was I would turn on a movie. They where ok in Warcraft 3 ROC/TFT thought, but that's because they are so short.
I just got one myself to, althought I also got a qoob sx, atleast I spent some cash on original accessories aswell.
Got a used chiped xbox with replaced harddrive when they was quite new, but I didn't played much. Can't say I play much on the cube either but atleast I play more, and there are more games I would consider playing.