Yeah, until you pick up your 2.4 ghz phone with digital spread spectrum. I've got one that sets up a 300' wireless sphere of silence when ever it's used, or even rings. BTW, it's the wife's favorite phone in the whole world. =( (This is assuming that they continue to use the ISM spectrum for this sort of thing, and don't get their own spectrum for it.)
Also, this could make crackers/script kiddies really bad. Think wardriving is fun? Wait till you can wardrive for webcams, and hard drives, and keyboards, and monitors... Oh, I hate that kid across the street, I'm gonna format his boot drive, from my living room. (Big antennas and amps can get signals to travel a lot further than the manufacturer says they do) Want a target's password? Just snag it as it's sent from the keyboard. The possiblities are nearly endless.
Also, don't trust them to make it ubersecure on the first try either. 128bit WEP can be broken in less than an hour on most access points. (Using the Aircrack suite on linux with a prism2 card.) WPA is better, but you can bruteforce the passphrase, so you'd best have picked a *REALLY* good one, or that can be cracked too, and *VERY* quickly. (Cowpatty on linux)
I'd rather have my stuff hooked up with cables/traces. They are much more resiliant to interference, and "sniffing" attacks.
You can have your wireless too though, just tell me, what's your address? =P
Yeah, your right... the constitution nor the bill of rights don't say anything about the right to pirate music, movies and software.
However, this *IS* a win for public rights. Look at it this way, I can effectively turn your IP address into a real name and address just by sending a legal threat to your ISP. All I have to do to be able to do this is hold a copyright I think you might have infringed.
Would you want basically anyone in the world to be able to turn your IP address into your real name and address? That's what this case is about, not the morality of copyright infringement.
Although, I will argue that point since that seems to be what you want.
Well, since you brought up the constitution... one thing it does say, is that copyright is to last *17* years. Currently, if my memory serves me right, copyright lasts for the lifetime of the author, plus 100 years.
Mickey Mouse won't become public domain until at least 2066. He was created in *1928*! Disney has profitted off him for 77 years, and still has another 61 to go, unless they buy another extension law from our government, and you can safely bet the farm that they will.
The public domain, is the *PEOPLES* main benefit to copyright law. It has been stolen from us by these copyright extensions.
Anything copyrighted you read, watch, or see today, will *NEVER* become public domain, in your lifetime. Not here in the US, or any other country that has signed any of the many worldwide copyright treaties.
Now, ask yourself, is *NON-COMMERCIAL* copyright infringement that much worse then stealing the public domain out from under us?
I won't argue the commercial infringers... I support going after them, and that was how our copyright law was intended to be used back when it was written.
We used to have something called fair use. This would allow you to use copyrighted works in non-commercial ways and not be punished.
Ever record something from the radio, or the television? That's fair use.
Ever make a backup copy of your $999.99 software install disc or rare first run only played twice Elvis album, to protect it from damage or loss? That's fair use.
Have you ever copied a cd to a tape, to listen to it somewhere where you didn't have a cd player? Or, converted a cd you own to mp3 to listen to it on the device of your choice? That's fair use.
Have you ever photocopied sections of a book from the library to use for research? That's fair use.
Thanks to the DMCA, there is now a way to close all those legal loopholes too. Just encrypt the data somehow, and breaking, or even talking about that encryption is a violation.
This has already been done with Audio/Software CD's, DVD's, radio(satellite) and Television (Broadcast Flag). The only example left above that you could legally do if the media companies don't want you to in 2066 is copy a book. Let's hope e-books never replace the real thing.
Now, is non-commercial copyright infringement morally worse then stealing the rights of the public domain, AND fair use from the entire American (and damn near the whole world's) people?
Interesting copyright factoid: The song "Happy Birthday" is copyrighted. This is why resturants don't sing it. They have to pay royalties to do so. You are a copyright infringer every time you sing it in a public place and money is directly, or indirectly involved, you dirty pirate.
I'm gonna take a wild guess here, but I'd imagine that it's cheaper to build roads then train tracks. The simple answer is usually the correct one, moreso in gov't.
Heh, no, the iPod cannot record. It lacks the hardware. My archos actually *MAKES* mp3's from an audio source. Plug it into your stereo, and press record... voila! Instant 160kbps mp3's of what you are listening to. (Even the radio if you so desire.) It also has a built-in crappy voice mic for doing voice-recorder style recordings. The iPod can't do this, no matter what software you install. It simply doesn't have the hardware to do it.
And, I don't see how drag and drop inhibits development in the slightest. It's just the usual Vendor-Lockdown tricks to keep you from being able to use anything other then iTunes to manage your iPod. Not that I have any doubt that apple will continue to make/support iTunes for windows, as it's a giant cash-cow for them right now... but a smaller company could drop their custom software like a bad habit later on down the line to save some $$. For example, there are quite a few Rio players from the early days of mp3 players that don't have drivers or support for even Windows XP, let alone any real OS... that kind of interface with your player is unacceptable.
If your player supports mass storage, and doesn't require any special software to access the drive, then you've got support for your player for as long as mass storage drivers are included with the OS. (I'd bet on just about forever for that one. Think about all the old cruft that is still supported just fine in modern OS's... it's all about the standards support there.)
You shouldn't need the slurp program. They should have thought that through when they made the player/sold their souls to the RIAA to make iTunes. Other vendors, who don't have to cow-tow to those asshats, because they don't have a music store have done just that. (See archos, neruos, and iriver for models that aren't kneecapped by RIAA B.S. For example... you know why apple doesn't allow you to pull music OFF of an iPod, with the included software? Because the RIAA asked for it to be that way.)
The iPod is a nice pretty player with a good UI. But that don't mean shit when you can't use it on the files/OS/computer of your choice.
The slayer will come eventually. Hell, this new M$ store might stir up some new units/vendors for us to drool over. The one with the right features for the $$ gets my money. Not the one with the prettiest box, and the fanciest marketting department.
If you think apple was the first or the best, you've got some lessons to learn.
I bought a 20gb Archos Studio Player *2 YEARS* before the iPod existed. I then bought a better archos recorder/player for half the price of the iPod when it did finally arrive.
Rio was sued over their original mp3 player again, *2 YEARS* before the iPod existed. In essence, they paved the way for the iPod to even exist at all.
And, that's also not taking into consideration all the CD-R/W players that existed long before the iPod. The deck in my car does this, and I bought it back in `98. (Aiwa CDC-MP3)
Yes, the iPod is the dominant player in the market, but they are *NOT* the first. Not even remotely close.
Apple has the design/interface thing down pat. I'll give you that... but they cannot compete with the feature set of even my older then the iPod archos.
This is the feature set of the real iPod killer:
Driverless drag and drop of files. (A must. Any device that doesn't do this will not get any of my money, period. I don't want a device that can't be used in 5 years because some asshat corporate clown decided that they don't want to support it anymore, and they don't update the software for newer os's.)
Standard AA NiMH batteries. (Yes, you can replace them, *cheaply*. Even during a road trip. Also, with 2200mAH batteries, I get almost 16 hours of battery life, out of my archos jukebox recorder in the real world. Also, with an external charger, you can charge one set of batteries in a half-hour, while another set is powering the unit. I know they add weight to the unit, but that is a trade-off worth making when you are hours away from your fancy charging cable or a firewire/usb port.)
Standard user-obtainable drives. (It can be a 1" drive, as long as I can buy it and replace it myself without too much hassle. The archos I have uses a standard 2.5" laptop drive. Again, once the warranty is up, and there are bigger/better/faster drives out there... You can upgrade/replace it if you need to.)
Solid, reliable construction. The unit needs to last. 90day warranties are out of the question. I'd better get at least a year, preferably 3-5.
OPTIONAL: As far as formats go, I'm not too picky... all my music is in MP3 format already, that is the only format I need. Others will have their format-of-choice that they need. (Ogg, flac, wav, aac, wma, etc....)
I have no need for an AM/FM tuner, but obviously some of you do...
Another overlooked feature is the ability to record things. (My archos can hook up to anything that takes a headphone jack, or RCA plugs, and *RECORD* 160kbps MP3 files to the drive.) May not be everyones bag of course, but I find it useful.
Now, back on topic, this player hits some of this featureset, but not all. Find a player that does, for a reasonable price and then you have an "iPod Slayer".
You can copy mp3's to it using explorer/file manager of your choice, but the ipod won't be able to play them.
It uses some internal database to store the mp3's in, that only iTunes (And some of the apps written before iTunes for windows came out) can read/write to.
Not sure where you buy your equipment.... but I paid 59$ for my 48x Lite-On burner, and I pay 25.60 for a spindle of 100 discs. Memorex branded no less.
That's 2.6 *CENTS* a disc. Yeah, that doesn't include a case... but I get 100 of those for $30.60 (The slimline ones.)
That brings my cd cost to 5.7 cents for the whole she-bang.
"In the US, if you get busted with an ounce of grass, it's not serious. In Mexico, they might take it, or they might just take you out back and shoot you."
I'm not sure what state you live in... but in my home state of Wisconsin the penalty for possesion of an ounce of grass is:
6 mo of jailtime, and 1000$ in fines.
I would personally consider that pretty damn serious.
Check your own states laws at http://www.norml.org
The best you could do, is encrypt your mp3's. When they decrypt them and sue you, you might get away with countering under the "Bypassing an access control" section.
You'd still get owned for violating their copyright though. So it's prolly not worth trying.
No, there isn't. Many family members were used to testifiy against people in the war on drugs.
But the 5th amendment makes you immune to testifiying against your self.
Hence, the phrase:
I plead the 5th.
The only solution to this is to vote for people that can change it. Use those voting privs, it's all you got to fight the gov'ment with.
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Yeah, until you pick up your 2.4 ghz phone with digital spread spectrum. I've got one that sets up a 300' wireless sphere of silence when ever it's used, or even rings. BTW, it's the wife's favorite phone in the whole world. =( (This is assuming that they continue to use the ISM spectrum for this sort of thing, and don't get their own spectrum for it.)
Also, this could make crackers/script kiddies really bad. Think wardriving is fun? Wait till you can wardrive for webcams, and hard drives, and keyboards, and monitors... Oh, I hate that kid across the street, I'm gonna format his boot drive, from my living room. (Big antennas and amps can get signals to travel a lot further than the manufacturer says they do) Want a target's password? Just snag it as it's sent from the keyboard. The possiblities are nearly endless.
Also, don't trust them to make it ubersecure on the first try either. 128bit WEP can be broken in less than an hour on most access points. (Using the Aircrack suite on linux with a prism2 card.) WPA is better, but you can bruteforce the passphrase, so you'd best have picked a *REALLY* good one, or that can be cracked too, and *VERY* quickly. (Cowpatty on linux)
I'd rather have my stuff hooked up with cables/traces. They are much more resiliant to interference, and "sniffing" attacks.
You can have your wireless too though, just tell me, what's your address? =P
Yeah, your right... the constitution nor the bill of rights don't say anything about the right to pirate music, movies and software.
However, this *IS* a win for public rights. Look at it this way, I can effectively turn your IP address into a real name and address just by sending a legal threat to your ISP. All I have to do to be able to do this is hold a copyright I think you might have infringed.
Would you want basically anyone in the world to be able to turn your IP address into your real name and address? That's what this case is about, not the morality of copyright infringement.
Although, I will argue that point since that seems to be what you want.
Well, since you brought up the constitution... one thing it does say, is that copyright is to last *17* years. Currently, if my memory serves me right, copyright lasts for the lifetime of the author, plus 100 years.
Mickey Mouse won't become public domain until at least 2066. He was created in *1928*! Disney has profitted off him for 77 years, and still has another 61 to go, unless they buy another extension law from our government, and you can safely bet the farm that they will.
The public domain, is the *PEOPLES* main benefit to copyright law. It has been stolen from us by these copyright extensions.
Anything copyrighted you read, watch, or see today, will *NEVER* become public domain, in your lifetime. Not here in the US, or any other country that has signed any of the many worldwide copyright treaties.
Now, ask yourself, is *NON-COMMERCIAL* copyright infringement that much worse then stealing the public domain out from under us?
I won't argue the commercial infringers... I support going after them, and that was how our copyright law was intended to be used back when it was written.
We used to have something called fair use. This would allow you to use copyrighted works in non-commercial ways and not be punished.
Ever record something from the radio, or the television? That's fair use.
Ever make a backup copy of your $999.99 software install disc or rare first run only played twice Elvis album, to protect it from damage or loss? That's fair use.
Have you ever copied a cd to a tape, to listen to it somewhere where you didn't have a cd player? Or, converted a cd you own to mp3 to listen to it on the device of your choice? That's fair use.
Have you ever photocopied sections of a book from the library to use for research? That's fair use.
Thanks to the DMCA, there is now a way to close all those legal loopholes too. Just encrypt the data somehow, and breaking, or even talking about that encryption is a violation.
This has already been done with Audio/Software CD's, DVD's, radio(satellite) and Television (Broadcast Flag). The only example left above that you could legally do if the media companies don't want you to in 2066 is copy a book. Let's hope e-books never replace the real thing.
Now, is non-commercial copyright infringement morally worse then stealing the rights of the public domain, AND fair use from the entire American (and damn near the whole world's) people?
Interesting copyright factoid: The song "Happy Birthday" is copyrighted. This is why resturants don't sing it. They have to pay royalties to do so. You are a copyright infringer every time you sing it in a public place and money is directly, or indirectly involved, you dirty pirate.
I'm gonna take a wild guess here, but I'd imagine that it's cheaper to build roads then train tracks. The simple answer is usually the correct one, moreso in gov't.
Heh, no, the iPod cannot record. It lacks the hardware. My archos actually *MAKES* mp3's from an audio source. Plug it into your stereo, and press record... voila! Instant 160kbps mp3's of what you are listening to. (Even the radio if you so desire.) It also has a built-in crappy voice mic for doing voice-recorder style recordings. The iPod can't do this, no matter what software you install. It simply doesn't have the hardware to do it.
And, I don't see how drag and drop inhibits development in the slightest. It's just the usual Vendor-Lockdown tricks to keep you from being able to use anything other then iTunes to manage your iPod. Not that I have any doubt that apple will continue to make/support iTunes for windows, as it's a giant cash-cow for them right now... but a smaller company could drop their custom software like a bad habit later on down the line to save some $$. For example, there are quite a few Rio players from the early days of mp3 players that don't have drivers or support for even Windows XP, let alone any real OS... that kind of interface with your player is unacceptable.
If your player supports mass storage, and doesn't require any special software to access the drive, then you've got support for your player for as long as mass storage drivers are included with the OS. (I'd bet on just about forever for that one. Think about all the old cruft that is still supported just fine in modern OS's... it's all about the standards support there.)
You shouldn't need the slurp program. They should have thought that through when they made the player/sold their souls to the RIAA to make iTunes. Other vendors, who don't have to cow-tow to those asshats, because they don't have a music store have done just that. (See archos, neruos, and iriver for models that aren't kneecapped by RIAA B.S. For example... you know why apple doesn't allow you to pull music OFF of an iPod, with the included software? Because the RIAA asked for it to be that way.)
The iPod is a nice pretty player with a good UI. But that don't mean shit when you can't use it on the files/OS/computer of your choice.
The slayer will come eventually. Hell, this new M$ store might stir up some new units/vendors for us to drool over. The one with the right features for the $$ gets my money. Not the one with the prettiest box, and the fanciest marketting department.
If you think apple was the first or the best, you've got some lessons to learn.
I bought a 20gb Archos Studio Player *2 YEARS* before the iPod existed. I then bought a better archos recorder/player for half the price of the iPod when it did finally arrive.
Rio was sued over their original mp3 player again, *2 YEARS* before the iPod existed. In essence, they paved the way for the iPod to even exist at all.
And, that's also not taking into consideration all the CD-R/W players that existed long before the iPod. The deck in my car does this, and I bought it back in `98. (Aiwa CDC-MP3)
Yes, the iPod is the dominant player in the market, but they are *NOT* the first. Not even remotely close.
Apple has the design/interface thing down pat. I'll give you that... but they cannot compete with the feature set of even my older then the iPod archos.
This is the feature set of the real iPod killer:
Driverless drag and drop of files. (A must. Any device that doesn't do this will not get any of my money, period. I don't want a device that can't be used in 5 years because some asshat corporate clown decided that they don't want to support it anymore, and they don't update the software for newer os's.)
Standard AA NiMH batteries. (Yes, you can replace them, *cheaply*. Even during a road trip. Also, with 2200mAH batteries, I get almost 16 hours of battery life, out of my archos jukebox recorder in the real world. Also, with an external charger, you can charge one set of batteries in a half-hour, while another set is powering the unit. I know they add weight to the unit, but that is a trade-off worth making when you are hours away from your fancy charging cable or a firewire/usb port.)
Standard user-obtainable drives. (It can be a 1" drive, as long as I can buy it and replace it myself without too much hassle. The archos I have uses a standard 2.5" laptop drive. Again, once the warranty is up, and there are bigger/better/faster drives out there... You can upgrade/replace it if you need to.)
Solid, reliable construction. The unit needs to last. 90day warranties are out of the question. I'd better get at least a year, preferably 3-5.
OPTIONAL:
As far as formats go, I'm not too picky... all my music is in MP3 format already, that is the only format I need. Others will have their format-of-choice that they need. (Ogg, flac, wav, aac, wma, etc....)
I have no need for an AM/FM tuner, but obviously some of you do...
Another overlooked feature is the ability to record things. (My archos can hook up to anything that takes a headphone jack, or RCA plugs, and *RECORD* 160kbps MP3 files to the drive.) May not be everyones bag of course, but I find it useful.
Now, back on topic, this player hits some of this featureset, but not all. Find a player that does, for a reasonable price and then you have an "iPod Slayer".
Orrin Hatch.
I'm sure that's what they like there.
Umm... the hole that allows blaster in, can be exploited to give you a remote SHELL on the box.
You can do just about anything you can do in a command prompt in that shell. INCLUDING STEAL DATA AND SEND IT TO A REMOTE MACHINE.
You obviously don't know much about how blaster worked.
We should all count our blessings that blaster was as benign as it was. It could have been FAR worse then it was.
Google for "RPC2.zip" to see what I'm talking about.
I prefer
Start > Run > calc, then enter.
Works on all versions of windows I've used.
-Torgski
It's called assault. That's threatening. Battery is the actual beating.
That's why you hear about charges of assualt and battery.
Umm... you do realize that he lost all of those high-profile cases right?
I don't know what the hell you've been smoking... but BK was never owned by pepsi.
Your thinking of the TriCon Global (Now Yum!) resturants.
They are:
Pizza Hut
Taco Bell
Kentucky Fried Chicken
They all used to belong to Pepsi. Burger King never has.
Yes, it is.
You can copy mp3's to it using explorer/file manager of your choice, but the ipod won't be able to play them.
It uses some internal database to store the mp3's in, that only iTunes (And some of the apps written before iTunes for windows came out) can read/write to.
Not sure where you buy your equipment.... but I paid 59$ for my 48x Lite-On burner, and I pay 25.60 for a spindle of 100 discs. Memorex branded no less.
That's 2.6 *CENTS* a disc. Yeah, that doesn't include a case... but I get 100 of those for $30.60 (The slimline ones.)
That brings my cd cost to 5.7 cents for the whole she-bang.
Time for you to find a new cd supplier!
I work in an advertising agency.
That's the standard way to end a press release.
"In the US, if you get busted with an ounce of grass, it's not serious. In Mexico, they might take it, or they might just take you out back and shoot you."
I'm not sure what state you live in... but in my home state of Wisconsin the penalty for possesion of an ounce of grass is:
6 mo of jailtime, and 1000$ in fines.
I would personally consider that pretty damn serious.
Check your own states laws at http://www.norml.org
Umm... Sean Connery was James Bond.
Jean Luc Picard was played by... Patrick Stewart.
I think either of them is a fine choice.... but let's not confuse them =)
The best you could do, is encrypt your mp3's.
When they decrypt them and sue you, you might get away with countering under the "Bypassing an access control" section.
You'd still get owned for violating their copyright though. So it's prolly not worth trying.
No, there isn't. Many family members were used to testifiy against people in the war on drugs. But the 5th amendment makes you immune to testifiying against your self. Hence, the phrase: I plead the 5th. The only solution to this is to vote for people that can change it. Use those voting privs, it's all you got to fight the gov'ment with.