Mean anything for the STL? I mean, is SGI still working on the STL, and will it continue to keep its excellent documentation publicly (freely) available, etc?
Don't count on it, if the company goes under, and the web site is turned off.
Better to wget the documents now, if you care about them.
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I still can't figure out why anybody would buy a Sun box?
Because some people need big SMP systems with operating systems that have the features that big organizations need.
Linux-on-Opteron plus the OSS tool makers are getting there, but not yet.
So what I am wondering is why don't they make hardware like that these days, and why isn't Linux as stable as those old operating systems were?
Why do you think the good stuff went the way of the dodo?
Because engineering (both h/w & s/w) and the tech support lines, and time and number of people it takes to write a Big {Blue|Red|Grey} Wall of 3-ring binder documentation, and the Field Circus all cost a lot of money that most people aren't willing to pay anymore..
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Can anyone argue that VMS DCL has evolved as much as the Bourne environment? but much of it has evolved about as far as JCL in becoming a modern system.
Your "shell scripting in FORTRAN" simile is good, but would more accurately be FORTRAN IV.
I use Alpha/VMS at work, and Linux is my home desktop OS.
While I love DCL, and wish that bash/Unix has batch queues and VMS-style.LOG files, there are times when I really, really, really wish that DCL had FOR... IN loops.
Want to know the reason why? Its because the govt requires an obsurd amount of testing for everything so crap like a toilet seat end of cost unreasonable amounts of money.
When I worked for a defence contractor, contract prices correlated linearly with the thickness of the RFP.
IOW, if civil service and/or Pentagon yahoos took the trouble to write up a 5 page spec defining exactly what kind of "hammer" they wanted, they got charged $200 for that claw hammer, since it took us so much time to verify that the $5 Stanley hammer actually met the 5 pages worth of specifications.
Come winter time, however, it could be advisable to start pumping in outside air and/or using the heat of the machines to warm the building.
The dinosaur pen (which now also has loads of Unix, VMS & NT servers, since the m/f now only takes up 1/20th of the space it used to) at the company I work for is just north of NYC, and back in the days of huge disk farms of 3390s, they acutally did vent in winter air.
ISTM that RAID's always been about more than just making a big drive out of smaller drives.
No, that's always been the goal. I remember reading about it back in the 80s.
The only reason for the clever math was because the boffins who thought it up realized that striping was/is dangerous.
IOW, if drives were perfect and never died, there would be no need for the wastefulness (especially back when capacity was measured in $/MB) that is mirroring and XOR.
Clever usage of mathematics in order to create larger "disks"? Yes.
Whatever RAID means now, in the beginning, RAID meant Redundant Arrays of Inexpensive Disks. Either pay out your ass for a 600MB (!!!!) drive, or hook together a bunch of much lower $/MB 100MB drives.
Now, though, in business, it's "just" used for saftey and to create larger SCSI virtual disks.
I have a USB external HD that I put together myself.
USB 2.0 "High-speed" is incredibly slow. Around 11MBps on my Linux box.
For large files, the only choice is Firewire.
I measured Firewire-400 on a 1GHz box running Linux 2.4.? (same box used to measure USB 2.0) at ~50MBps. Even is Firewire-800 doesn't scale linearly, it'll still smoke USB 2.0.
Im planning on upgrading to 2x 400GB drives in the next year.
Why not 500GB drives?
The Asker and is wife are professionals. Spend the money on three 8-slot firewire-800 enclosures, and populate them with 500GB drives (in JBOD mode, since it's the simplest, and Simple Is Good in these situations).
Each would have 4TB of capacity.
Keep #1 always plugged into your machine as on-line storage, #2 as near-line storage (turned off and firewire plug pulled, except when you daily sync it with #1), and #3 off-site.
Rotate the #2 and #3 enclosures on, say, a weekly basis.
maybe i'm just a little young (23) but why would you worry about the waiter or waitress at a restaurant?
Because you give them your CC, and they walk away with it, doing you-know-not-what.
Occasionally I see stories of such people arrested for stealing CC info (the old fashoned way, writing it down with pencil/paper, or copying from receipts).
No, that's the accepted way of doing statistics in the medical sciences: you formulate a hypothesis and you test it.
We all (hopefully) agree that that is the Scientific Method, but since statistics can be made to say anything you'd like, I wonder if bias flaws these kinds of studies from the beginning?
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Mean anything for the STL? I mean, is SGI still working on the STL, and will it continue to keep its excellent documentation publicly (freely) available, etc?
Don't count on it, if the company goes under, and the web site is turned off.
Better to wget the documents now, if you care about them.
I still can't figure out why anybody would buy a Sun box?
Because some people need big SMP systems with operating systems that have the features that big organizations need.
Linux-on-Opteron plus the OSS tool makers are getting there, but not yet.
That's even smaller than the DS15. Would you count that as an Alpha?
Vaguely...
But the point was tha Alphas are still shipping.
So what I am wondering is why don't they make hardware like that these days, and why isn't Linux as stable as those old operating systems were?
Why do you think the good stuff went the way of the dodo?
Because engineering (both h/w & s/w) and the tech support lines, and time and number of people it takes to write a Big {Blue|Red|Grey} Wall of 3-ring binder documentation, and the Field Circus all cost a lot of money that most people aren't willing to pay anymore..
Can anyone argue that VMS DCL has evolved as much as the Bourne environment?
.LOG files, there are times when I really, really, really wish that DCL had FOR ... IN loops.
but much of it has evolved about as far as JCL in becoming a modern system.
Your "shell scripting in FORTRAN" simile is good, but would more accurately be FORTRAN IV.
I use Alpha/VMS at work, and Linux is my home desktop OS.
While I love DCL, and wish that bash/Unix has batch queues and VMS-style
The last VAXes were built in the late 90s.
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AlphaServers are still around, in sizes from desktops like the DS15 to monsters like the GS1280.
http://h18002.www1.hp.com/alphaserver/index.html
http://h18002.www1.hp.com/alphaserver/workstation
http://h18002.www1.hp.com/alphaserver/sc_gs.html
Want to know the reason why? Its because the govt requires an obsurd amount of testing for everything so crap like a toilet seat end of cost unreasonable amounts of money.
When I worked for a defence contractor, contract prices correlated linearly with the thickness of the RFP.
IOW, if civil service and/or Pentagon yahoos took the trouble to write up a 5 page spec defining exactly what kind of "hammer" they wanted, they got charged $200 for that claw hammer, since it took us so much time to verify that the $5 Stanley hammer actually met the 5 pages worth of specifications.
Come winter time, however, it could be advisable to start pumping in outside air and/or using the heat of the machines to warm the building.
The dinosaur pen (which now also has loads of Unix, VMS & NT servers, since the m/f now only takes up 1/20th of the space it used to) at the company I work for is just north of NYC, and back in the days of huge disk farms of 3390s, they acutally did vent in winter air.
ISTM that RAID's always been about more than just making a big drive out of smaller drives.
No, that's always been the goal. I remember reading about it back in the 80s.
The only reason for the clever math was because the boffins who thought it up realized that striping was/is dangerous.
IOW, if drives were perfect and never died, there would be no need for the wastefulness (especially back when capacity was measured in $/MB) that is mirroring and XOR.
Dude, read more carefully.
USB 1.1 spec is 11Mbps.
I wrote 11MBps, 88 times faster than the 1.1 spec.
it's an optimization born e of necessity
Optimisation? Definitely not.
Clever usage of mathematics in order to create larger "disks"? Yes.
Whatever RAID means now, in the beginning, RAID meant Redundant Arrays of Inexpensive Disks. Either pay out your ass for a 600MB (!!!!) drive, or hook together a bunch of much lower $/MB 100MB drives.
Now, though, in business, it's "just" used for saftey and to create larger SCSI virtual disks.
I have a USB external HD that I put together myself.
USB 2.0 "High-speed" is incredibly slow. Around 11MBps on my Linux box.
For large files, the only choice is Firewire.
I measured Firewire-400 on a 1GHz box running Linux 2.4.? (same box used to measure USB 2.0) at ~50MBps. Even is Firewire-800 doesn't scale linearly, it'll still smoke USB 2.0.
Im planning on upgrading to 2x 400GB drives in the next year.
Why not 500GB drives?
The Asker and is wife are professionals. Spend the money on three 8-slot firewire-800 enclosures, and populate them with 500GB drives (in JBOD mode, since it's the simplest, and Simple Is Good in these situations).
Each would have 4TB of capacity.
Keep #1 always plugged into your machine as on-line storage, #2 as near-line storage (turned off and firewire plug pulled, except when you daily sync it with #1), and #3 off-site.
Rotate the #2 and #3 enclosures on, say, a weekly basis.
Have you considered compressing your video using one of the many codecs available?
Since others have already slammed lossy compression as a stupid idea for professionals, how about "regular" lossless compression?
rzip, based on bzip2, is tuned for compressing huge files.
But, does DV have enough repeating values to make zip-style compression work?
IT can be used as a mediuem for rotated backsups
This is the answer.
What's so inconvenient about using a browser?
In general, nothing.
But browsers are big and fat. (Yes, even FF.) They have to handle Javascript, SSL, plugins & any and all sorts of horendous MS-generated shit-HTML.
A purpose-built Wikipedia viewer will/should be fast, small and not subject to any security breaches.
It's the same basic reason why I use GAIM instead of firing up Mozilla and going to http://chat.yahoo.com./
So you're saying that 2 didn't work; but 3 will definately be worth the costs?
Read more carefully next time. Grandparent wrote redundancy equilibrium may now shift to three lines.
maybe i'm just a little young (23) but why would you worry about the waiter or waitress at a restaurant?
Because you give them your CC, and they walk away with it, doing you-know-not-what.
Occasionally I see stories of such people arrested for stealing CC info (the old fashoned way, writing it down with pencil/paper, or copying from receipts).
No, that's the accepted way of doing statistics in the medical sciences: you formulate a hypothesis and you test it.
We all (hopefully) agree that that is the Scientific Method, but since statistics can be made to say anything you'd like, I wonder if bias flaws these kinds of studies from the beginning?
Fix your system instead.
Or maybe you should ask any economist slightly to the right of Lenin whether price controls work.
The key to grandparent's post is seems they actually help.
As others have said, though, HP is so in bed with MS, they can't trumpet Linux too much.
Ok, someone is obviously abusing their mod points.
Why was this modded Funny?
Yes and gay people walk around happy all day
That would be a good analogy if only there was a culture of straight gay people that was upset about being associated with homosexuals.
The issue is that the word "gay" was hijacked by a group of people who don't want to be called (are ashamed of????) what they are: homosexual.
Homosexual isn't an evil word. Why try to obfuscate what you really are?
Fair use only allows for limited, non-commercial uses (i.e. criticisms, news oriented, etc.).
Last I checked, Time, Newsweek, the New York Times Book Review, etc were all for-profit corporations.
Maybe the Gnome Foundation can give a fig leaf to make the lawyers happy??