If I get sick and need expensive medical assistance...
How long will you have to wait to get it? Canada, NZ & UK have pretty long waiting lists for expensive procedures (don't know about other countries), and people regularly die waiting for them.
One correction, though: mainframes *are* back ends. And COBOL is a very portable language. As long as you aren't calling CICS or IMS, mainframe code should run perfectly fine on Linux.
While COBOL doesn't have functions that reside in the same file as the code you're currently writing, it certainly does (since at least COBOL-74) have CALL. Actually, though, those are procedures.
A lazy programmer is a lazy programmer no matter what language he uses.
No doubt that COBOL can easily be made very painful.
Maybe I was just fortunate to hook up with grey-beards who *grokked* the language far more than our textbook and teacher ever did, and showed me language features and coding techniques that made the programs quite structured.
COBOL is a great language for it's specific domain. There's a special Hell waiting for PHBs who mandate C/C++ and Java for record-oriented business applications.
If he hadn't explained, we would see a chorus of complaints...
Or... you could go back and looks at the summary again and notice that the explanation is copied directly from the NetBSD announcement page, and that linux.org has a similar "What is Linux?" paragraph.
Back when our basement data center housed 70s and 80s era IBM mainframes and their accoutrement (a dozen or so tape drives and a huge 3380 farm) , the building vented cold upstate NY winter air into the DC.
A few years after the final ECL mainframes and 3380s were replaced by "z" mainframes and EMC SANs, the vent was blocked up.
Get enough "unemployable" people under the same roof, have the government (a) extend Social Security to the disabled, and then (b) expand the definition of "disabled" beyond all reasonable bounds, then fake back & neck injuries and "stress related" mental problems and coach your children to fake being retarded.
That -- plus SNAP (aka Food Stamps) -- lets Americans with no self-respect live what by world standards is a pretty posh life (cars, air conditioning, X-Boxes, etc).
the question is how will people get paid for "doing nothing".
The government answered -- and lots of (a) unimaginative, (b) lazy, and (c) unimaginative and lazy people have been taking advantage of it -- that question decades ago.
Google "generational poverty". Rural mail carriers see this first hand every day.
such a huge system will *ever* get implemented? The Feds have a long and sucky track record of managing huge IT projects that explode in budget and go down in flames a decade later.
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If I get sick and need expensive medical assistance...
How long will you have to wait to get it? Canada, NZ & UK have pretty long waiting lists for expensive procedures (don't know about other countries), and people regularly die waiting for them.
They aren't the same thing.
Which is why I wrote, Actually, though, those are procedures.
Most people aren't as open-minded as you...
One correction, though: mainframes *are* back ends. And COBOL is a very portable language. As long as you aren't calling CICS or IMS, mainframe code should run perfectly fine on Linux.
While COBOL doesn't have functions that reside in the same file as the code you're currently writing, it certainly does (since at least COBOL-74) have CALL. Actually, though, those are procedures.
A lazy programmer is a lazy programmer no matter what language he uses.
No doubt that COBOL can easily be made very painful.
Maybe I was just fortunate to hook up with grey-beards who *grokked* the language far more than our textbook and teacher ever did, and showed me language features and coding techniques that made the programs quite structured.
You know I never understood the hate for COBOL
In 1984 it was:
1) Comp Sci snobbery.
2) Horrible textbooks.
The painful contortions that Shelly & Cashman twisted COBOL-74 into so as to be GOTO-less meant that no one liked the language.
It was only when I got a Real Job in the Real World that I appreciated the power of COBOL.
Structured programming ... are afterthoughts.
You haven't actually written production COBOL, have you?
No first-class functions. No lambdas.
Not that your typical business report program has any use for those things.
Exactly. COBOL and FORTRAN were targeted domain-specific languages before the term was invented, and the targets weren't Edsger Dykstra.
COBOL is a great language for it's specific domain. There's a special Hell waiting for PHBs who mandate C/C++ and Java for record-oriented business applications.
If he hadn't explained, we would see a chorus of complaints ...
Or... you could go back and looks at the summary again and notice that the explanation is copied directly from the NetBSD announcement page, and that linux.org has a similar "What is Linux?" paragraph.
Old stuff doesn't get tossed out just because new stuff becomes available.
And NetBSD is small -- which is useful in some circumstances -- and some dislike the viral nature of the GPL.
Fortunately, NASA already did that...
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/lunar/missions/apollo/apollo_15/experiments/ps/
You ignored the most important qualifier: by world standards.
It's only in your mind and Fox News that people in those programs are living it large.
I can bring you by houses where it happens.
Back when our basement data center housed 70s and 80s era IBM mainframes and their accoutrement (a dozen or so tape drives and a huge 3380 farm) , the building vented cold upstate NY winter air into the DC.
A few years after the final ECL mainframes and 3380s were replaced by "z" mainframes and EMC SANs, the vent was blocked up.
LibreOffice recently rebased onto Apache OO
1) That was almost a year ago.
2) If they just kept copying files over from Apache OO, then they'd lose all the code refactoring they've been doing.
Get enough "unemployable" people under the same roof, have the government (a) extend Social Security to the disabled, and then (b) expand the definition of "disabled" beyond all reasonable bounds, then fake back & neck injuries and "stress related" mental problems and coach your children to fake being retarded.
That -- plus SNAP (aka Food Stamps) -- lets Americans with no self-respect live what by world standards is a pretty posh life (cars, air conditioning, X-Boxes, etc).
the question is how will people get paid for "doing nothing".
The government answered -- and lots of (a) unimaginative, (b) lazy, and (c) unimaginative and lazy people have been taking advantage of it -- that question decades ago.
Google "generational poverty". Rural mail carriers see this first hand every day.
Control units don't heartbeat individual nodes? They aren't designed to monitor and restart the unreported work of a failed node?
Frankly, I'm shocked.
was vulcanology.
cclive and youtube-dl?
such a huge system will *ever* get implemented? The Feds have a long and sucky track record of managing huge IT projects that explode in budget and go down in flames a decade later.
Thus, I'm not worried.
It's possible to know people in other states.
County, not country.
Exactly. My county has required photo ID for voting since at least the early 1970s.
But we also care lots about Engineering.
Even the US probably doesn't have any easily-portable system to fire high-velocity kinetic missiles of significant mass.
They're called cannons; been around for centuries.
For a decade, the US Navy has been developing rail guns to shoot *really* high speed projectiles. Progress has been slow, though.