+++where a "person" is defined as an embryo at the moment of conception
---This is what I completely reject. To accept that I would have to believe there is some sort of divine magic that infuses the sperm and ovum combination that makes it different from any other cell in the body. I don't believe in magic.
Fair enough.
When during the timespan between sperm-hits-egg and birth are they considered a unique human to regard rights towards?
If at birth, then what about 10 minutes before hand? Or how about a week before.
My current GF was born at 6 months and in the hospital for a long time after that.
What's a good ethical, defensible answer? At least the Pope's answer is consistent (may not agree, but it does hold rather airtight).
---As much as I defend Artificial Insemination for those who need it I strenuously oppose any attempt to make for designer children.
So if you were offered genetic counseling services in which the embryo would not be harmed (preservation of life), but would be slightly re-sequenced in that the genes for all genetic defects would be rewritten; you wouldn't accept?
I equate genetic "purifying" or whatever the misnomer used now as a way to purge disease-causing genes while keeping the ethics of human life.
Either way, people "fall through the cracks". Whether it be capitalism or communism.
And now, we have in the USA a bunch of social programs to help those downtrodden. Did we have those prior the New Deal?
If one is without possessions, money, vehicle, or a reasonably safe place to stay, how does one make money?
Case in point:
Person X is normally in good health, in 30's and in a marriage with 1 child. Person X receives nasty disease in which cure exists. However, disease was not caught in time and now requires hospitalization and double dosage of cure drug.
Does or does not a government have a responsibility to ensure reasonable care of said individual?
The quasi-monopoly are the wire-watchers. They maintain wire integrity and coordinate new runs.
Companies buy services through the wire company to provide services to customers.
The key here is no company OWNS the physical wire, as it is held by a responsible third party who maintains the wire. Content is taken care of the providers who go over the wire.
They only surrendered to the Germans for one real reason: their artwork and architecture. I really cant fault them for that, considering the pictures I've seen in the aftermath of England.
I also keep in mind that they also made our current word: sabotage... that words origin comes from Nazi occupation of France, when the peoples would jam up factories and machines to help Germany.
For what situation France got stuck in, I really cant blame them.
We have total annihilation tournaments every 2 or so weeks around these parts. There's ungodly amounts of mods to go through, so we're busy killing each other with super-nukes, extremely long range plasma cannons, walking spiders 3x as big as krogoths, teleportation systems, you name it. And to top it off, unofficial patches for 5000 units per side (up to 10 players).
TA requires that you honor the license. They asked that you buy 1 legit copy for every 3 lan players. Yes, a decent lan gaming policy, along with the 30 second "multiplayer install". There were no serial numbers to keep track of, no codebooks to flip through, no cd checks (the one is solved by copying that big texture file over to HD).
It's been 10 years since TA started. Will your license servers be up in 10 years? Not even googles' servers were...
If you are a type 2 diabetes individual, there are ways to make sure it never surfaces again... It just includes in aggressive testing (4-8 strips per day for 1 month) and eating ONLY non-sugary/bready foods.
Pretty much chicken, pork, steak, certain veggies, spices... Sort of like that one recent fad diet, but used with glucose test strips with a vengeance.
---Cultural literacy as a reason to download bootleg music/movies? That's new to me.
Along with this type of argument would be that much of our media is nigh worthless in terms of our (US) culture. It usually takes a bit of time to determine cultural worthiness vs some fad that will dissolve within months.
---I'd just find a plot summary on the net.
I don't think that would work. Perhaps hitting the summary sites might work, but in my experience it usually doesn't work. This problem seems to rear its head when one tries to fake the emotional parts of the story... script readers have no connection while the show-watchers do.
Now, is this a reason to download movies/series/music? Probably not. I certainly wouldn't dismiss it entirely either. Some connections I have made started entirely over music and movies... some of which I downloaded (and didn't like, but could talk about).
As a disclaimer, I'm going into electrical engineering BS, minor mathematics/anthropology (IUPUI). Take it as you will;)
Even if you are of average intelligence (which I assume that you are higher, considering where we are), the constant barrage of anti-copying and zoning "technology" should have made you weary on what to buy, regardless of chicken bones and coffee grounds.
You know, past performance determines future behavior and all..
Simply put: some of our media is an entry barrier of our culture.
One may not want to watch it, or not care too much, but to blend with "normal" people, one needs to watch some of the movies/music to connect to many people.
Does one have to watch everything? Of course not. However, I do believe that there is some minimal amount of material one has to know about to blend with other normal people.
Why didn't you do your research and determine that the current inception of the HD goods are "infected" by the very problems you describe?
Our household has not went with HD yet because of these glaring problems. We will go with HD when we have full access via component or dual-dvi ports, hdmi be damned.
And, TV just isn't that important in our household. We watch about 4 series at most, along with some news. We're on the net more reading news and stuff.
Look at their release dates and patch revisions... none current. Kernel guys like seeing constant and timely patches. Community members who slack off are considered bad and all..
But I guess the wireless guys dont like these addons... Good for them, bad for us.
---The orinoco wireless drivers have supported monitor mode since 2004. Still not in the kernel today. Do any of the BSDs support monitor mode yet on this incredibly well documented chipset? I'll migrate if the answer's yes.
Good point. Would anybody more enlightened than I explain why the good orinoco drivers arent accepted in the kernel?
Evidently asking questions like this is flamebait... but why is this so WRT the kernel?
Considering the big wigs brought them within headquarters, they most likely offered the best of what they had to offer. Maybe it was good, I dont know. All I do know is that music and movies are easy to get to online, pay or no pay. Why deal with archaic discs with formats from the 80's when 12 mp3s download in a reasonable amount of time, legality or not?
A service that could keep the record companies afloat is if they opened their collections completely, flat rate.10$ per download. And if you lost the songs, another.10$. Dont keep records of who bought what, too much bookkeeping, and it's just a dime. I just wonder how much money they would make on that kind of deal...
My content from the financial perspective of DRM.. and pretty much why they're done for.
___ What alternatives do we have?
Our body of law gives rights to the creators and their protected ability of being the one to approve copies. Regardless of whether we agree or now with this, that is our situation.
Now, we take this to the "digital domain". Those older creators want, no.. need these protections as they see in the non-internet world. The only real way to "guarantee" this is by digital restrictions. The best way I think of this is that of a akin to a capability system and the copyright maintainer has an account on your machine.
However, our machines are ours. The geeks amongst us demand that we are able to control our software and hardware. What was unable to do in WinXP, Vista seems to offer the beginning of that capability system with the media companies at the kill switch. And to top it off, Vista has remotely disabling drivers for "holes" that might appear. For those that own a machine, this OS laughs in their face, as if saying "Bring It On!"
And there are many casualties. Those casualties are the Joe and Jane Publics that don't understand this issue close enough, or think that all needs to be done is burn to DVD... just like the iPod to music. When they find out that they are locked with binary garbage that cannot be used for any fair use purpose (backing up owned DVDs is fair usage).
And where are we now? When the users know they are eventually shafted, those that have the know-how will show others where to download the movies and the music they legitimately bought. Once they know they were taken advantage of, any feeling of "theft" (or whatever you call it) will be gone. The media companies had their chance to do their dealings with the public honestly, but have failed.
And just to expand on that, the media guys had their chance to do honest dealings with the public and the artists. They instead thought they could continue on with their little game. They simply cant.
As a last comment, ill give the link and the quote of the starting of the nasty fall of the media empire...
This past week's issue of The Economist has a heart-rending vignette from one of the most ruthlessly capitalist industries on the planet: "In 2006 EMI, the world's fourth-biggest recorded-music company, invited some teenagers into its headquarters in London to talk to its top managers about their listening habits. At the end of the session the EMI bosses thanked them for their comments and told them to help themselves to a big pile of CDs sitting on a table. But none of the teens took any of the CDs, even though they were free. "That was the moment we realized the game was completely up," an EMI exec told the magazine.
I only did that sig as a self-challenge since the signature character limits went in place. And since it pisses soo many people off, I just keep it there;)
Even my 15 year old sis knows they're fake. I dont know why you "oh so smart slashdotters" are getting fooled by a logout link. Dont you all look at the URL before clicking?
As an aside, look at my freaks list. I consider it a badge of honor.
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+++where a "person" is defined as an embryo at the moment of conception
---This is what I completely reject. To accept that I would have to believe there is some sort of divine magic that infuses the sperm and ovum combination that makes it different from any other cell in the body. I don't believe in magic.
Fair enough.
When during the timespan between sperm-hits-egg and birth are they considered a unique human to regard rights towards?
If at birth, then what about 10 minutes before hand? Or how about a week before.
My current GF was born at 6 months and in the hospital for a long time after that.
What's a good ethical, defensible answer? At least the Pope's answer is consistent (may not agree, but it does hold rather airtight).
---As much as I defend Artificial Insemination for those who need it I strenuously oppose any attempt to make for designer children.
So if you were offered genetic counseling services in which the embryo would not be harmed (preservation of life), but would be slightly re-sequenced in that the genes for all genetic defects would be rewritten; you wouldn't accept?
I equate genetic "purifying" or whatever the misnomer used now as a way to purge disease-causing genes while keeping the ethics of human life.
Like, for example... no hard cull. eww.
Either way, people "fall through the cracks". Whether it be capitalism or communism.
And now, we have in the USA a bunch of social programs to help those downtrodden. Did we have those prior the New Deal?
If one is without possessions, money, vehicle, or a reasonably safe place to stay, how does one make money?
Case in point:
Person X is normally in good health, in 30's and in a marriage with 1 child. Person X receives nasty disease in which cure exists. However, disease was not caught in time and now requires hospitalization and double dosage of cure drug.
Does or does not a government have a responsibility to ensure reasonable care of said individual?
The quasi-monopoly are the wire-watchers. They maintain wire integrity and coordinate new runs.
Companies buy services through the wire company to provide services to customers.
The key here is no company OWNS the physical wire, as it is held by a responsible third party who maintains the wire. Content is taken care of the providers who go over the wire.
LID is that you?
That's just getting stupid.
They only surrendered to the Germans for one real reason: their artwork and architecture. I really cant fault them for that, considering the pictures I've seen in the aftermath of England.
I also keep in mind that they also made our current word: sabotage... that words origin comes from Nazi occupation of France, when the peoples would jam up factories and machines to help Germany.
For what situation France got stuck in, I really cant blame them.
We have total annihilation tournaments every 2 or so weeks around these parts. There's ungodly amounts of mods to go through, so we're busy killing each other with super-nukes, extremely long range plasma cannons, walking spiders 3x as big as krogoths, teleportation systems, you name it. And to top it off, unofficial patches for 5000 units per side (up to 10 players).
TA requires that you honor the license. They asked that you buy 1 legit copy for every 3 lan players. Yes, a decent lan gaming policy, along with the 30 second "multiplayer install". There were no serial numbers to keep track of, no codebooks to flip through, no cd checks (the one is solved by copying that big texture file over to HD).
It's been 10 years since TA started. Will your license servers be up in 10 years? Not even googles' servers were...
If you are a type 2 diabetes individual, there are ways to make sure it never surfaces again... It just includes in aggressive testing (4-8 strips per day for 1 month) and eating ONLY non-sugary/bready foods.
Pretty much chicken, pork, steak, certain veggies, spices... Sort of like that one recent fad diet, but used with glucose test strips with a vengeance.
You do know that the real clinical trial is the first year on the market...
Its cause you ARE a tool, CTS.
Now lets go make more fun of rusty's wife.
Technically, that is true, however, I am yet to find a DVI device with HDCP.
Finding a HDMI setup with HDCP these days is rather easy... until you rule out devices with buggy firmware
---Cultural literacy as a reason to download bootleg music/movies? That's new to me.
;)
Along with this type of argument would be that much of our media is nigh worthless in terms of our (US) culture. It usually takes a bit of time to determine cultural worthiness vs some fad that will dissolve within months.
---I'd just find a plot summary on the net.
I don't think that would work. Perhaps hitting the summary sites might work, but in my experience it usually doesn't work. This problem seems to rear its head when one tries to fake the emotional parts of the story... script readers have no connection while the show-watchers do.
Now, is this a reason to download movies/series/music? Probably not. I certainly wouldn't dismiss it entirely either. Some connections I have made started entirely over music and movies... some of which I downloaded (and didn't like, but could talk about).
As a disclaimer, I'm going into electrical engineering BS, minor mathematics/anthropology (IUPUI). Take it as you will
Even if you are of average intelligence (which I assume that you are higher, considering where we are), the constant barrage of anti-copying and zoning "technology" should have made you weary on what to buy, regardless of chicken bones and coffee grounds.
You know, past performance determines future behavior and all..
Simply put: some of our media is an entry barrier of our culture.
One may not want to watch it, or not care too much, but to blend with "normal" people, one needs to watch some of the movies/music to connect to many people.
Does one have to watch everything? Of course not. However, I do believe that there is some minimal amount of material one has to know about to blend with other normal people.
Why didn't you do your research and determine that the current inception of the HD goods are "infected" by the very problems you describe?
Our household has not went with HD yet because of these glaring problems. We will go with HD when we have full access via component or dual-dvi ports, hdmi be damned.
And, TV just isn't that important in our household. We watch about 4 series at most, along with some news. We're on the net more reading news and stuff.
And how does an MP3 datastream represent, or even look somewhat close to a 44.1KHz 16 bit pcm encoding?
What copying do we see here? I see 2 completely different data patterns.
I can see why with aircrack...
Look at their release dates and patch revisions... none current. Kernel guys like seeing constant and timely patches. Community members who slack off are considered bad and all..
But I guess the wireless guys dont like these addons... Good for them, bad for us.
---The orinoco wireless drivers have supported monitor mode since 2004. Still not in the kernel today. Do any of the BSDs support monitor mode yet on this incredibly well documented chipset? I'll migrate if the answer's yes.
Good point. Would anybody more enlightened than I explain why the good orinoco drivers arent accepted in the kernel?
Evidently asking questions like this is flamebait... but why is this so WRT the kernel?
Remorse for what?
Oh, have any quicklime?
That sounds exactly like what the record companies wish to create.
You should set it out in the open cause SECURITY by OBSCURITY doesnt work.
Oh wait.. it does. Couldnt find the murder weapon? It was probably hid, but that cant work. Oh well.
I really doubt it.
.10$ per download. And if you lost the songs, another .10$. Dont keep records of who bought what, too much bookkeeping, and it's just a dime. I just wonder how much money they would make on that kind of deal...
Considering the big wigs brought them within headquarters, they most likely offered the best of what they had to offer. Maybe it was good, I dont know. All I do know is that music and movies are easy to get to online, pay or no pay. Why deal with archaic discs with formats from the 80's when 12 mp3s download in a reasonable amount of time, legality or not?
A service that could keep the record companies afloat is if they opened their collections completely, flat rate
My content from the financial perspective of DRM.. and pretty much why they're done for.
___
What alternatives do we have?
Our body of law gives rights to the creators and their protected ability of being the one to approve copies. Regardless of whether we agree or now with this, that is our situation.
Now, we take this to the "digital domain". Those older creators want, no.. need these protections as they see in the non-internet world. The only real way to "guarantee" this is by digital restrictions. The best way I think of this is that of a akin to a capability system and the copyright maintainer has an account on your machine.
However, our machines are ours. The geeks amongst us demand that we are able to control our software and hardware. What was unable to do in WinXP, Vista seems to offer the beginning of that capability system with the media companies at the kill switch. And to top it off, Vista has remotely disabling drivers for "holes" that might appear. For those that own a machine, this OS laughs in their face, as if saying "Bring It On!"
And there are many casualties. Those casualties are the Joe and Jane Publics that don't understand this issue close enough, or think that all needs to be done is burn to DVD... just like the iPod to music. When they find out that they are locked with binary garbage that cannot be used for any fair use purpose (backing up owned DVDs is fair usage).
And where are we now? When the users know they are eventually shafted, those that have the know-how will show others where to download the movies and the music they legitimately bought. Once they know they were taken advantage of, any feeling of "theft" (or whatever you call it) will be gone. The media companies had their chance to do their dealings with the public honestly, but have failed.
Just like língchí.. Death by a thousand cuts.
From K5
And just to expand on that, the media guys had their chance to do honest dealings with the public and the artists. They instead thought they could continue on with their little game. They simply cant.
As a last comment, ill give the link and the quote of the starting of the nasty fall of the media empire...
This past week's issue of The Economist has a heart-rending vignette from one of the most ruthlessly capitalist industries on the planet: "In 2006 EMI, the world's fourth-biggest recorded-music company, invited some teenagers into its headquarters in London to talk to its top managers about their listening habits. At the end of the session the EMI bosses thanked them for their comments and told them to help themselves to a big pile of CDs sitting on a table. But none of the teens took any of the CDs, even though they were free. "That was the moment we realized the game was completely up," an EMI exec told the magazine.
Incorrect.
Until the Coca-cola change, they used cane sugar. During the change, they just made it nasty. I really dont know the sugar-based sweetener they used.
After going "back", they went to high fructose corn syrup.
The "change" was a ruse to go from real cane sugar to corn sugar.
Acting a bit fatalistic, arent we?
;)
I only did that sig as a self-challenge since the signature character limits went in place. And since it pisses soo many people off, I just keep it there
Even my 15 year old sis knows they're fake. I dont know why you "oh so smart slashdotters" are getting fooled by a logout link. Dont you all look at the URL before clicking?
As an aside, look at my freaks list. I consider it a badge of honor.