Ok. You buy a 1 year subscription to a 3Mbps-down/256Kbps-up line. You are told, along with adverts claiming it is an unlimited line.
They disconnect you for unspeakable limits. That is called FRAUD. No ifs ands or buts.
If they cant maintain profitability on selling those lines for whatever they do, too bad. Not my problem. if they can only sell 512Kbps sync and keep it truthful and honest, all the better.
If the telcos DSL circuits can do it, why not the "Pig"?
Well, we got it in writing from them when we signed up a 2 year agreement. We made sure that they didnt care if we used every last BYTE we paid for in our connection.
Not to mention the telcos are common carrier, and immune to the real Mand in the Middle lawsuit attacks.
Like I said before (FP;-) we kept up a 60% up/down on average. Nobody cared.
Lemee see. Downloading the max a line will allow is OK. They understood the contract as "unlimited".
Seems to me that they're way overselling their lines. SBC DSL doesnt care how much you use, nor should they. (We had them for 2 years and kept 60% up and down utilized on average).
These cable bastards need to be raked over the coals for this. Or at leat, lose a bunch of profits.
I hate to respond to a dead article, but you are spot on.
---Remember what I said about military private-key encryption being cheaper computationally?
I remember seeing special chips when I was with my dad at a naval reserve center (he's a retired chief).. One of the things Im interested in is TEMPEST and such technology dealing with EMP. What I saw was impressive: Ceramic CPUs. They wernt made out of silicon (or that look anyways) but instead they were pearlish white and said to be immune to EM pulses.
From what little I understand about TEMPEST and the government books, these chips could detect an 'event' at the beginning of the chip, and fail-over to ground the whole chip. Amazing piece of work.. However it was a 286, but guaranteed to work in high energy environments and low-shielded environments (Space).
I've even thought about going into Comm in the military just to access the powerful equipment. The things my dad can legally tell me about is just amazing.
---Are you even sure that you were trying to listen in on a data channel? From my reading it looks like the hubble stores it's data and then transmits it down in batches.
You might have a point there... I'm not sure what to make of their data formats, nor do I have an idea of what mux they use, though I doubt it would be UWB-like... however it could be. GPS is already under the floor, and I dont see why Hubble couldnt be. From my eyes, I just saw a swath of data and I tried to process it. A bigger question is if my 16 bits/Hz is actually enough to extract real data...
I know there's a few people who make fun of me for doing this, but I find what the Hubble puts out as important as the numbers stations. By the time you try to triangulate them, they're already gone or moved.
On open source, we talk on how we can defer judgment and help from one corporation to anybody we wish. Using MS products means we're at the mercy of MS for proper fixes.
Using an open source kit gives us the ability to find whomever we need to fix it, and not the ordained "fixer". This isnt a slam at MS, but instead is towards the whole proprietary software community.
However, when it comes to taxes and associated penalties, having a company to blame is one of the best recourses one can have. Of course, the IRS can do whatever the hell they want for taxes, but suing the preparer for incompetence is of the utmost importance. Lesser yet, are companies who offer guarantees on their fitness of returns.
I wouldnt trade the ability to point fingers for "free software".
---Hubble releases public images, but much of the research is just that - research - done by labs who are trying to maintain the integrity and proprietary nature of their work.
I want you to realize that I am a US citizen and who pays his taxes. I speak from my American view: WHY is governmental science proprietary? Above all other things, science done by the government or by government money should be either 100% public domain, or the % of profits should be returned to the people (Im thinking of public uni's here).
Hubble was paid for by US Citizens. I want their data open and in the clear. I dont want to vandalize or destroy. I wish to look.
---Hubble data is supposed to go to the researcher first and the public second. IIRC it's a default six month delay unless overridden by the lab collecting the data.
You know, these scientists could learn something from following the model the GPL uses: collaboration. Open up the output for all to see.. Most of it's probably not much anyways... But that's the point. Let us decide.
---It's not censorship so much as embargo, and it's really no different from what any researcher does in order to not be scooped on the research they're doing.
That isnt an excuse. I (in part) paid for this damned orbital telescope, and I want the output untouched by some "research group".
---I have no problems believing that the control data is encrypted for the hubble. For one thing, you don't want others taking it over.
No, of course you dont want some random joe to take Hubble over. However, they could implement in which "packets" are signed. The data would be separate from the authenticated signature. Along with that, they would want to implement a proper timecode to prevent replay attacks.
But controlling is aside the issue.
And I do hate to mince words but "normal HAM operator"... There isnt such a thing as a normal ham operator these days. Many hams specialize in one or two distinct fields of RF study. I like examining digital commms and remote communications (EME and meteor scatter).Along with my interests, I have bought that A/D board recommended by GnuRadio (normal HAM operator). All I needed was a RF front end and just to downsample to the range of the AD board (0-20 MHz).
I asked for help from some people at NASA and they said the connection was encrypted, and it does seem to be the case.
It doesnt really matter what Im required to build for receiving gear. It's all multi-purpose for us hams. And I do like the idea of splitting the transmitters from the receivers (well, you do have 2 antenna then per kit).
---I'm not saying that you're a 'normal' Ham operator, Crawler, but we're talking the space industry here.
Too true. No offense taken. Still, I can decode the majority of transmissions (the old freq shift Symbol cards are really neat under a scope) and can transmit on quite a few bands. I dont know if you've ever been in a Ham's shack, but the amount of gear they can have (and I too) is pretty immense. I just focus on the digital side a bit more:-) .
Censor the raw data coming from out of this too, like they have with the Hubble?
I'm a ham operator, and the signals coming from the Hubble are a jumbled mass of unintelligible garble. Further research shows they are using military hardware for secure connections.
I do understand that control codes are administered via ground, however, public key signing would allow transparency while providing a secure platform.
Why do they hide the whole data stream? What do they not want us to see?
When I think of "anonymous bloggers", I get this image.
Or, I recall that "Multiple Theology Degree, exquisite super-intelligentsia" Essjay. Oh, thats right.. He's a redneck hick who lives about 80 Mi south of me (Louisville, KY).
Anybody can say whatever they want, but due to the "Credibility" of the internet, it usually means something is going to be believed. Not good, as most people haven't the logic or intelligence to discern real from fiction.
Ok. This thing uses autopilot to infer its location, and probably sight maps too.
What would prevent it from getting.. well, "fucked up", by using this on a wee higher power setting?
Lemmee see... USB changeable, dual bands, 30 ft radius (well, the whole inside the metal tube of the plane), and looks like cigarettes.
Or, how would one make an EMP pulse using a workable "laptop" with lithium batteries and capacitors? Im sure Boeing doesnt use Tempest on low earth flights (jets I'd imagine otherwise).
Thats right. I shouldnt be talking about this, as I "might" alert the terrorists. HINT: They already know, and can search the internet just like you. They also have a brain to devise stuff, just like us. I use the standard security "excuse": Its better to know a vulnerability and have the chance to shut down the service than it is to not know and take the proverbial beating for it.
---I think the parent was exaggerating the actual amount of bandwidth this uses up - it's tiny - but you certainly notice your lights blinking, and any monitoring tool will spot it easily.
Well, as to give my "credentials", I do network administration on a few small corporate networks around my area (consultant). It's not my main money maker (im a student and work at Sbux), however, I try to know as much as I possibly can on networking.
Now back to our DSL connection...
I actually found the 'local' machine via a DHCP request/release technique. I was able to map most of the addresses on the lease server, and found then by port scanning 1214 on all machines.
Turns out my idea was right: most people around this area (rural) hook up their DSL modem to the computer directly, and usually without firewalls. I'm pretty sure he was a supernode, although I didnt go get the supernode lists from Kazaa. And yes, I did hit up to 25 kiloBYTES/second from bad queries and old supernode lists. Most likely, it was around 5 KB/s for the first day and dropped further down. I did, occasionally, get queries days after that, hence saying that they approach 0 kb/s, but never actually get there.
---I didn't like the idea of my traffic (non-filesharing) ending up being routed to some other guy's PC, so I switched to a static IP provider.
Agreed, but the SBC-Yahoo promotion was 15 USD per month vs a 50+ USD per month for static IP. They considered static a 'corporate service' so they charged higher. Nice people, the phone company. Also, that also would explain why I used IRC quite a bit then: IRC is near realtime and all requests are initiated by real people, real time.
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I wish that were so, because the USB spec indicates that the devices themselves (targets like iPOD, webcams, keyboards, and the like) cannot connect together.
What would be beyond cool is a topology of interconnecting commodity hardware. Picture this..
USB control box => USB keyboard USB control box => USB mass storage USB control box => USB webcam USB control box => USB lcd display
You could set up and maintain usb security systems all around a house, while dumping data to common storage medium. Instead, you could substitute USB wifi gear and dump mpeg-like data.
All of this would require that the Bus spec guys work together in that a simple driver interface would work for the majority of kits. Expanding on those basic instructions wouldnt be hard for that extra functionality, or if you decided to hook it to a powerful computer.
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That reminds me of the first atomic wrist watch.
Dun dun dun.
DAMNNNNNN
"awk", sed the grep.
I hate typos.
"awd" sed the grep.
Universe halted.
Hit F1 to continue.
Will the real Ryan Fenton please stand up? I repeat...
Will the real Ryan Fenton please stand up?
Another reason why Triple Play sales pitches are HORRIBLE.
Cable line has been "exceeded". They then hijack your other 2 services for leverage.
It's free, until you use it.
Oh. I didnt know that.
Hmm... So what would it be declared if you ran Asterisk on your DSL circuit? Better yet, what about fractional T?
Some of this phone stuff and lingo blows my mind... (and thats not easy to do)
Ok. You buy a 1 year subscription to a 3Mbps-down/256Kbps-up line. You are told, along with adverts claiming it is an unlimited line.
They disconnect you for unspeakable limits. That is called FRAUD. No ifs ands or buts.
If they cant maintain profitability on selling those lines for whatever they do, too bad. Not my problem. if they can only sell 512Kbps sync and keep it truthful and honest, all the better.
If the telcos DSL circuits can do it, why not the "Pig"?
Well, we got it in writing from them when we signed up a 2 year agreement. We made sure that they didnt care if we used every last BYTE we paid for in our connection.
;-) we kept up a 60% up/down on average. Nobody cared.
Not to mention the telcos are common carrier, and immune to the real Mand in the Middle lawsuit attacks.
Like I said before (FP
Lemee see. Downloading the max a line will allow is OK. They understood the contract as "unlimited".
Seems to me that they're way overselling their lines. SBC DSL doesnt care how much you use, nor should they. (We had them for 2 years and kept 60% up and down utilized on average).
These cable bastards need to be raked over the coals for this. Or at leat, lose a bunch of profits.
I hate to respond to a dead article, but you are spot on.
---Remember what I said about military private-key encryption being cheaper computationally?
I remember seeing special chips when I was with my dad at a naval reserve center (he's a retired chief).. One of the things Im interested in is TEMPEST and such technology dealing with EMP. What I saw was impressive: Ceramic CPUs. They wernt made out of silicon (or that look anyways) but instead they were pearlish white and said to be immune to EM pulses.
From what little I understand about TEMPEST and the government books, these chips could detect an 'event' at the beginning of the chip, and fail-over to ground the whole chip. Amazing piece of work.. However it was a 286, but guaranteed to work in high energy environments and low-shielded environments (Space).
I've even thought about going into Comm in the military just to access the powerful equipment. The things my dad can legally tell me about is just
amazing.
---Are you even sure that you were trying to listen in on a data channel? From my reading it looks like the hubble stores it's data and then transmits it down in batches.
You might have a point there... I'm not sure what to make of their data formats, nor do I have an idea of what mux they use, though I doubt it would be UWB-like... however it could be. GPS is already under the floor, and I dont see why Hubble couldnt be. From my eyes, I just saw a swath of data and I tried to process it. A bigger question is if my 16 bits/Hz is actually enough to extract real data...
I know there's a few people who make fun of me for doing this, but I find what the Hubble puts out as important as the numbers stations. By the time you try to triangulate them, they're already gone or moved.
On open source, we talk on how we can defer judgment and help from one corporation to anybody we wish. Using MS products means we're at the mercy of MS for proper fixes.
Using an open source kit gives us the ability to find whomever we need to fix it, and not the ordained "fixer". This isnt a slam at MS, but instead is towards the whole proprietary software community.
However, when it comes to taxes and associated penalties, having a company to blame is one of the best recourses one can have. Of course, the IRS can do whatever the hell they want for taxes, but suing the preparer for incompetence is of the utmost importance. Lesser yet, are companies who offer guarantees on their fitness of returns.
I wouldnt trade the ability to point fingers for "free software".
---Hubble releases public images, but much of the research is just that - research - done by labs who are trying to maintain the integrity and proprietary nature of their work.
I want you to realize that I am a US citizen and who pays his taxes. I speak from my American view: WHY is governmental science proprietary? Above all other things, science done by the government or by government money should be either 100% public domain, or the % of profits should be returned to the people (Im thinking of public uni's here).
Hubble was paid for by US Citizens. I want their data open and in the clear. I dont want to vandalize or destroy. I wish to look.
---Hubble data is supposed to go to the researcher first and the public second. IIRC it's a default six month delay unless overridden by the lab collecting the data.
You know, these scientists could learn something from following the model the GPL uses: collaboration. Open up the output for all to see.. Most of it's probably not much anyways... But that's the point. Let us decide.
---It's not censorship so much as embargo, and it's really no different from what any researcher does in order to not be scooped on the research they're doing.
That isnt an excuse. I (in part) paid for this damned orbital telescope, and I want the output untouched by some "research group".
Correction: recommended by GnuRadio (normal HAM operator). All I
Damn clipboard. It was SUPPOSED TO BE (Measurement Computing PCI-DAS4020/12 A/D card).
---I have no problems believing that the control data is encrypted for the hubble. For one thing, you don't want others taking it over.
:-) .
No, of course you dont want some random joe to take Hubble over. However, they could implement in which "packets" are signed. The data would be separate from the authenticated signature. Along with that, they would want to implement a proper timecode to prevent replay attacks.
But controlling is aside the issue.
And I do hate to mince words but "normal HAM operator"... There isnt such a thing as a normal ham operator these days. Many hams specialize in one or two distinct fields of RF study. I like examining digital commms and remote communications (EME and meteor scatter).Along with my interests, I have bought that A/D board recommended by GnuRadio (normal HAM operator). All I needed was a RF front end and just to downsample to the range of the AD board (0-20 MHz).
I asked for help from some people at NASA and they said the connection was encrypted, and it does seem to be the case.
It doesnt really matter what Im required to build for receiving gear. It's all multi-purpose for us hams. And I do like the idea of splitting the transmitters from the receivers (well, you do have 2 antenna then per kit).
---I'm not saying that you're a 'normal' Ham operator, Crawler, but we're talking the space industry here.
Too true. No offense taken. Still, I can decode the majority of transmissions (the old freq shift Symbol cards are really neat under a scope) and can transmit on quite a few bands. I dont know if you've ever been in a Ham's shack, but the amount of gear they can have (and I too) is pretty immense. I just focus on the digital side a bit more
Censor the raw data coming from out of this too, like they have with the Hubble?
I'm a ham operator, and the signals coming from the Hubble are a jumbled mass of unintelligible garble. Further research shows they are using military hardware for secure connections.
I do understand that control codes are administered via ground, however, public key signing would allow transparency while providing a secure platform.
Why do they hide the whole data stream? What do they not want us to see?
When I think of "anonymous bloggers", I get this image.
Or, I recall that "Multiple Theology Degree, exquisite super-intelligentsia" Essjay. Oh, thats right.. He's a redneck hick who lives about 80 Mi south of me (Louisville, KY).
Anybody can say whatever they want, but due to the "Credibility" of the internet, it usually means something is going to be believed. Not good, as most people haven't the logic or intelligence to discern real from fiction.
Use your critical reading comprehension again, more closely this time.
I said that "invasive technology on brain-digital connection, and it works the best".
There's many scientists working on brain-digital interfaces so that handicapped people can do as the rest of us.
What data can you gather from a helmet most likely sitting on hair? Guess what.. you dont get much at all.
Ive seen studies on invasive technology on brain-digital connection, and it works the best, UNLESS it gets infected (often).
Infection in the brain is bad.
Well, how do they plan to hook up the player? Some helmet might work if the user shaves their head..
It'll probably work as well as the Phantom Console (Vaporware).
Ok. This thing uses autopilot to infer its location, and probably sight maps too.
What would prevent it from getting.. well, "fucked up", by using this on a wee higher power setting?
Lemmee see... USB changeable, dual bands, 30 ft radius (well, the whole inside the metal tube of the plane), and looks like cigarettes.
Or, how would one make an EMP pulse using a workable "laptop" with lithium batteries and capacitors? Im sure Boeing doesnt use Tempest on low earth flights (jets I'd imagine otherwise).
Thats right. I shouldnt be talking about this, as I "might" alert the terrorists. HINT: They already know, and can search the internet just like you. They also have a brain to devise stuff, just like us. I use the standard security "excuse": Its better to know a vulnerability and have the chance to shut down the service than it is to not know and take the proverbial beating for it.
Im using IE7 and wow! It is teh smartest!!
Is this a fishing site??? Cause IE knows and I knows!! Thats awesome!
Wonder if you can find what lures work with what on IE7?
Does it come with an Australian to English converter for us in the states?
My Australian is rusty.
--Just don't tell me you're a statistician!!!
Maybe.
---I think the parent was exaggerating the actual amount of bandwidth this uses up - it's tiny - but you certainly notice your lights blinking, and any monitoring tool will spot it easily.
Well, as to give my "credentials", I do network administration on a few small corporate networks around my area (consultant). It's not my main money maker (im a student and work at Sbux), however, I try to know as much as I possibly can on networking.
Now back to our DSL connection...
I actually found the 'local' machine via a DHCP request/release technique. I was able to map most of the addresses on the lease server, and found then by port scanning 1214 on all machines.
Turns out my idea was right: most people around this area (rural) hook up their DSL modem to the computer directly, and usually without firewalls. I'm pretty sure he was a supernode, although I didnt go get the supernode lists from Kazaa. And yes, I did hit up to 25 kiloBYTES/second from bad queries and old supernode lists. Most likely, it was around 5 KB/s for the first day and dropped further down. I did, occasionally, get queries days after that, hence saying that they approach 0 kb/s, but never actually get there.
---I didn't like the idea of my traffic (non-filesharing) ending up being routed to some other guy's PC, so I switched to a static IP provider.
Agreed, but the SBC-Yahoo promotion was 15 USD per month vs a 50+ USD per month for static IP. They considered static a 'corporate service' so they charged higher. Nice people, the phone company. Also, that also would explain why I used IRC quite a bit then: IRC is near realtime and all requests are initiated by real people, real time.
I wish that were so, because the USB spec indicates that the devices themselves (targets like iPOD, webcams, keyboards, and the like) cannot connect together.
What would be beyond cool is a topology of interconnecting commodity hardware. Picture this..
USB control box => USB keyboard
USB control box => USB mass storage
USB control box => USB webcam
USB control box => USB lcd display
You could set up and maintain usb security systems all around a house, while dumping data to common storage medium. Instead, you could substitute USB wifi gear and dump mpeg-like data.
All of this would require that the Bus spec guys work together in that a simple driver interface would work for the majority of kits. Expanding on those basic instructions wouldnt be hard for that extra functionality, or if you decided to hook it to a powerful computer.
I wish.