First, to get the coordinates straight, I am a German in US college.
So, while you're completely correct about observing that it is illegal to publicly display 3rd Reich symbols in Germany, I think you are mistaking that as a sort of general passive attitude in dealing with restrictions of democratic freedom(s) and rights. You have to understand that freedom has a million different interpretations and that those interpretations as laid down in laws naturally arise from the historical background of when those laws were written. In Germany (IMHO) we still have quite some problems dealing with WWII history, even though it's been 50 yrs now since it all happened. So, at the time (of writing the constitution) it was ca. 5yrs since 6million people were killed in KZ's. I think it is quite natural (even if you now might think of it as an overreaction now) that you get strict laws against openly campaiging for that or even openly stating that most of it is untrue. After all, Germany caused an unimaginable pain to a whole people. To make it short, those laws have a background and I think in Germany not many people oppose it and that that is not necessarily a bad thing. Does it limit your freedom of speech? Sure. But it also grants the German people (government and citizens) to effectively combat any major effort to disrupt the process of healing. Another example: in Germany you don't have the universal right to bear arms. Surely this impairs said freedom but it also grants you the freedom of not having to worry a whole lot about life-threats when sending your kid to school. Also, as we all have been watching here, it is very difficult nowadays to ensure the freedom of speech (and the right to bear arms and others), which have (yet again) so profound historical and therefore emotional roots in the US. My point being is that in a democracy there are freedoms which need to be restricted, so more important freedoms are granted, such as the restriction of killing people and so on. Example in US: here you don't have the freedom to drink alcohol until you're 21 although you can already be sentenced to death at age 16. Different cultures, different laws. Is one better than the other? Wrong (too simple) question. If you think about it, almost any item in the Bill of Rights has so far been reduced, some sensibly some not.
With all that being said, I don't have the slightest doubt in my mind, that this kind of vastly pro-corporate restriction on your internet content will be as fiercely combated in Germany as in the US. In Germany we IMHO have a very strong sense of civil rights and their upkeeping. And actually for that reason I don't think laws like this will even pass our parliament, but that's speculation. BTW, the German constitution also has a passage ensuring the legality of (if necessary violently) overthrowing a government which tramples on your basic human rights.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not pissed or offended or anything, I just think you have to evaluate things in context. I e.g. think, it is downright crazy to allow everybody to have a gun, but then if you look where it comes from, it makes more sense.
To make this a little more on-topic: This stuff is politically and technoligically not really feasible, as also pointed in other posts. But if stupidity takes over, I'll be there to campaign against it!:)
I guess this is a good time to ask: What Linux player can play those trailers? I looked on freshmeat and all but I didn't find one that didn't crash on these.mov's.
If I already have a box acting as a (cable modem-) router/firewall/masquing machine and put a PC card into that one, so all the other talk to that as my gateway, why would I need the extra "Residential Gateway" with a $350 price tag? Does it have some extra functionality or is that the price of a box doing what I described? Maybe can it handle masquing the dreaded H323 protocol (Netmeeting et al)??
If I went, I would especially look forward to two grand talks:
L. Marowsky-Brée from an undisclosed agency no less : "High Availability Blah Blah Blah" and M. Shaver: "talks about something"
Honestly, isn't it weird that right from the beginning those talks, where the speaker doesn't give a shit (it seems), subjectively rank among the most interesting talks of this symposium?
Did anybody else stumble over this? I don't even want to imagine what's going on at UIUC or at their collaborators institution in Moscow:
1st paragraph: "... said James E. Black, who is part of a team examining post-mortem brain tissue at...." 3rd paragraph: "... allowed for a systematic count of brain cells [...] in 16 healthy people."
yeah, take 16 healthy individuals, kill them and see what the neuron/synapse count is. A very unhappy wording for a press release I must say...:)
they said/wrote that about the last version too and after actually reading the README (ghasp!) you just stick in something like "./linuxquake3 +set r_glDriver=/yourspecificpathtoyour/veryownMesaGL.s o" with your very own HW-acceleration. Viper770, I think a Riva TNT2 chip, works really smoothly.
Admittedly I haven't dl'd the new version yet but common sense dictates them leaving that commandline option working.
Is it also a shadow from the higher dimensional manifold we see, when -looking up your url, i.e. this one- they also recommend reading/buying on an auction the book "Enlarge and firm your breasts by hypnosis tape"????
.... 2) Did we ever sign a peace treaty with Germany? It seems to me I read somewhere we had not, due to its divided status. If so, that makes it an occupied nation and The US can do whatever we please... ...
Read again. Preferably somewhere different than before, like news-papers from around 10 yrs ago maybe. But beware, you might learn some recent, quite important world-history BTW: the cold war is over (just in case you missed it).
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First, to get the coordinates straight, I am a German in US college.
:)
So, while you're completely correct about observing that it is illegal to publicly display 3rd Reich symbols in Germany, I think you are mistaking that as a sort of general passive attitude in dealing with restrictions of democratic freedom(s) and rights.
You have to understand that freedom has a million different interpretations and that those interpretations as laid down in laws naturally arise from the historical background of when those laws were written. In Germany (IMHO) we still have quite some problems dealing with WWII history, even though it's been 50 yrs now since it all happened. So, at the time (of writing the constitution) it was ca. 5yrs since 6million people were killed in KZ's. I think it is quite natural (even if you now might think of it as an overreaction now) that you get strict laws against openly campaiging for that or even openly stating that most of it is untrue. After all, Germany caused an unimaginable pain to a whole people. To make it short, those laws have a background and I think in Germany not many people oppose it and that that is not necessarily a bad thing.
Does it limit your freedom of speech? Sure. But it also grants the German people (government and citizens) to effectively combat any major effort to disrupt the process of healing.
Another example: in Germany you don't have the universal right to bear arms. Surely this impairs said freedom but it also grants you the freedom of not having to worry a whole lot about life-threats when sending your kid to school.
Also, as we all have been watching here, it is very difficult nowadays to ensure the freedom of speech (and the right to bear arms and others), which have (yet again) so profound historical and therefore emotional roots in the US.
My point being is that in a democracy there are freedoms which need to be restricted, so more important freedoms are granted, such as the restriction of killing people and so on.
Example in US: here you don't have the freedom to drink alcohol until you're 21 although you can already be sentenced to death at age 16. Different cultures, different laws. Is one better than the other? Wrong (too simple) question. If you think about it, almost any item in the Bill of Rights has so far been reduced, some sensibly some not.
With all that being said, I don't have the slightest doubt in my mind, that this kind of vastly pro-corporate restriction on your internet content will be as fiercely combated in Germany as in the US. In Germany we IMHO have a very strong sense of civil rights and their upkeeping. And actually for that reason I don't think laws like this will even pass our parliament, but that's speculation.
BTW, the German constitution also has a passage ensuring the legality of (if necessary violently) overthrowing a government which tramples on your basic human rights.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not pissed or offended or anything, I just think you have to evaluate things in context. I e.g. think, it is downright crazy to allow everybody to have a gun, but then if you look where it comes from, it makes more sense.
To make this a little more on-topic:
This stuff is politically and technoligically not really feasible, as also pointed in other posts. But if stupidity takes over, I'll be there to campaign against it!
Amen,
Roland
Hello everybody,
.mov's.
I guess this is a good time to ask:
What Linux player can play those trailers? I looked on freshmeat and all but I didn't find one that didn't crash on these
Some pointers, urls would be greatly appreciated.
Roland
Hi, this is a serious question:
If I already have a box acting as a (cable modem-) router/firewall/masquing machine and put a PC card into that one, so all the other talk to that as my gateway, why would I need the extra "Residential Gateway" with a $350 price tag? Does it have some extra functionality or is that the price of a box doing what I described? Maybe can it handle masquing the dreaded H323 protocol (Netmeeting et al)??
Insight would appreciated.
Roland
...Paid for by Gore 2000, Inc. ... and since we're at it,
summary: this is a comercial site. In the US, all politics is about money...Contributions to Gore 2000, Inc. are not tax deductible for federal income tax purposes.
peace, Roland
If I went, I would especially look forward to two grand talks:
L. Marowsky-Brée from an undisclosed agency no less : "High Availability Blah Blah Blah"
and
M. Shaver:
"talks about something"
Honestly, isn't it weird that right from the beginning those talks, where the speaker doesn't give a shit (it seems), subjectively rank among the most interesting talks of this symposium?
:)
Roland
ups,
just replace the comma in front of gz with a dot in the 2nd URL.
sorry,
Roland
ftp://ftp.twoguys.org/suse/evaluation -6.3.iso
and if you care
ftp://ftp.twoguys.org/suse/live-6.3.iso. gz
have fun,
Roland
Did anybody else stumble over this? I don't even want to imagine what's going on at UIUC or at their collaborators institution in Moscow:
...."
:)
1st paragraph: "... said James E. Black, who is part of a team examining post-mortem brain tissue at
3rd paragraph: "... allowed for a systematic count of brain cells [...] in 16 healthy people."
yeah, take 16 healthy individuals, kill them and see what the neuron/synapse count is.
A very unhappy wording for a press release I must say...
Roland
:-) ...
This reminds of the Hitchhiker: "humans always tend to state the obvious"
Why this gets a 3 for being informative though is a mystery to me.
Roland
if you read the specs, you'll see it is a see- through display...
Roland
come on,
they said/wrote that about the last version too and after actually reading the README (ghasp!) you just stick in something like
"./linuxquake3 +set r_glDriver=/yourspecificpathtoyour/veryownMesaGL.
with your very own HW-acceleration. Viper770, I think a Riva TNT2 chip, works really smoothly.
Admittedly I haven't dl'd the new version yet but common sense dictates them leaving that commandline option working.
Roland
ok, here's what I do: (it still works)
1) click the link (as quoted from your comment)
2) deny all cookies they wanna give you
3) get the page with your book right at the top
BUT: right below that comes the treasured recommendation for their auction that's going on
Roland
Is it also a shadow from the higher dimensional manifold we see, when -looking up your url, i.e.
:)
this one- they also recommend reading/buying on an auction the book "Enlarge and firm your
breasts by hypnosis tape"????
Of course, it does have to do with geometry....
Roland
It's called Speakfreely and you have your choice of encryptions. And it actually runs on different platforms (so you can talk to Win*-users too).
More can be found at the authors site here
Roland
....
2) Did we ever sign a peace treaty with Germany?
It seems to me I read somewhere we had not, due to its divided status. If so, that makes it an occupied nation and The US can do whatever we please...
...
Read again. Preferably somewhere different than
before, like news-papers from around 10 yrs ago
maybe. But beware, you might learn some recent,
quite important world-history
BTW: the cold war is over (just in case you missed it).
only saw it few days ago.
if I remember correctly maybe 0:00 or 1:00 Sunday nights on the Comedy channel.
it's MST3K.....! :(