*Please* don't make me click on the link read an article before I am able to post an insightful/funny/whatever comment to/. !!!!
right?
Let's hope this never happens again! But if it does, rest assured that an article from the Economist is worth your time, no matter what it's about. IMHO the Economist is the best English language news magazine on the market.
Sorry to burst *your* bubble, but you're confusing 2 things: the _nature_ of mathematical proofs and the 'complexity' of recent deep/famous ones.
A mathematical proof is a logical consequence, given some axioms, including: 'Given, that we follow a certain scheme of logic'. That a^2 + b^2 = c^2 in a triangle with a 90 angle is a consequence of certain axioms and some logic. And, as the above poster pointed out, that will be so to eternity, precisely for the reason, that axioms do not have anything to do with the world per se and thus are not required to be checked against reality and/or changed. That was all the above poster said and being a physicist, I admit that that's true with all ad- and disadvantages.
Now on the other hand, if a complicated proof can only be be peer-reviewed by so many people there is of course a danger, that it might be no proof, because they all make the same error. But that's a fact of life, and the probability of a proof being a proof goes to one, as the number of reviewers goes to infinity. Same thing applies btw. to your formal logic checking soft/hardware.
Your rant on non-perfectness of peer review has nothing to do with what the above poster said, i.e. that there is an inherent difference between math and any science, that tries to explain/explore the real world. One is a formal construction, the other tries to explain what is plainly there, with or without human brains trying to interpret it. You can not 'prove' anything in science, since the world doesn't give a fuck about the way you think about it and you can never be sure, that your axioms are correct. Conversely pure math doesn't give a fuck about being applicable to the real world.
I have a Thinkpad 240 and it was really loud. I always thought it to be the fan, so no relieve to be expected. But in reality it was the hdd. Now I switched for another and man, is that a difference. Maybe that would help on yours?
I can totally relate to going crazy being in front of a noisy laptop for hours.
I was going to build my really silent computer too and I was also very cost-concious. So after a lot of research on all the best places on the net I came up with the following super-quiet rig:
keep good ol' computer, still works fine
put computer in closet
cut hole for cables, bring cables through, stuff hole with cloth + duct-tape (didn't have that on thinkgeek....)
close closet door.
subtotal = grandtotal = 0$. Man, I can tell you that thing is quiet!
You are asking for internals of a profit making company. You could just as well walk up to IBM and ask them. If you are not an important shareholder or member of the board, etc. why should they ever tell you? After all, if you'd really want to, you could go and read OSDN's (or wherever/.'s is published) annual business report for the most imortant numbers.
PBS, NPR, etc. have to tell you, since they public non-profit organisations .
/. will be offering you a (subscription-) product when the time comes and you can take it or leave it. But they have no (moral or legal) obligation to give you their internal calculation, in order for you to be able to decide.
apart from talking common sense as usual, our dear Linus doesn't do justice to the grand master Tolkien. so sad...:
... and if somebody wants to change the name
to "Frodo
Rabbit ", I wouldn't holler loudly...
I guess Linus should grab his old copy of The Hobbit or LOTR and read in it a little again. It's always worth it! Would take his mind off nasty kernel-flamewars...
;-)
cheers,
Roland
The kernel works very nicely (in my case SuSE-off-the-shelf-2.4.2) on a TP 240. And you are right, the trackpoints are just ps/2 devices and as such no different than any other ps/2 mice.
There have been complaints also with Debian installs and on some occasions various PCMCIA-cards/controllers did not work (i.e. TP's).
But again: that's not a kernel but a distro issue!
if this (www.clanbob.net) is your website (as picked from the email adr.), then the only thing you need to do is cut the freaking Flash!!! And all those graphics!
that would *really* cut down your bandwidth. That is all well of course, if there is anything left afterwards...
Those guys at MS are smart dudes and they're not in the business of divide and conquer since yesterday. If you disagree with this view of things just look up and down this story-page and whitness the minefield of licence-bickering exploding left and right. The real problem is, that their tactic has a fair chance of success. Luckily though, not every OSS-activist is a licence-nazi (whatever his/her preferred might be).
-> just relax and leave the flamethrowers in the closet.
I think I have to butt in:
my history of TP's: 701c (yeah, the butterfly-keyboard...), 365X, 240. I have to say IMHO they're really beautiful laptops. Maybe you guys had bad experiences or something, but I do love them Thinkpads. When I got it 12 months ago, the TP240 was ~$1000 (new, egghead) which was almost a steal. Couldn't get that value anywhere, esp. with the crappy keyboards other notebooks exhibit.
But OTOH, considering this iSeries stuff, I guess IBM needs to make money on the cheap end, kind of like Mercedes-Benz going from classy upscale to building every freaking model that makes money (SUV, economy, blah). A shame I think, cause it dilutes the association of high quality with the brand.
Anyhow, just wanted to voice my (up to now) utmost pleasure with IBM-notebook computing, contrary to the prevailing mood here.:)
Roland
(btw: this was typed on the stone-age relic of 701c, which still work perfectly...)
... they crash! We used one (dc260) at a conference to continously take pictures of the speaker's slides and what do you know. It crashed a few times. Now where's Ctrl-Alt-Del when you need it? Fastest way to reboot: have it running solely on AC: power down, unplug, plug in, power up, punch in your settings (no flash, blah), reload USB modules on laptop, "ks -d/dev/kodak00 shoot". whew, only missed 2 slides, yay!
I'm all for nifty toys, but please make the basic work solidly before taking leaps and bounds to put a DOOM-capable OS on the camera.
Kinda like the guy on TV: "imagine JINI in your washing machine... it (the washer) will call you on the cell phone if it's flooding your basement. Now isn't that cool?" Now cool would be a washer that doesn't overflow in the first place!!! You would think that they could build that, if they can connect it to the net, wouldn't you??? But noooo...
Seeing the idea of Steganography kicked around here, I'd like to point you guys to StegFS which can help a lot if you don't want to disclose data to anybody unwanted. This makes it impossible for somebody to disprove you saying that you don't have anything on your machine and in consequence to get at your crucial files. I don't know if it supports non-Linux OS's though.
While I cannot think of securely wiring money back to non-government-conforming organizations in Iran (or whatever country, incl. US) I would think about doing "business" solely in the so-called free world and ship non-monetary goods back to Iran, which of course can be dangerous itself.
Another I piece of software I didn't see mentioned here is Outguess, a steganography tool. Attaching (prepared) binary data to mail or newsgroup messages is probably not a bad idea. One should think of ways of secure communication if that fails though (via enemy sysadmins)
Nevertheless I applaud those people trying to squeeze out a little freedom in literally opressing situations with the help of modern technology. It takes a lot of courage. Good luck.
where he discusses the fact that he had to release the contents of a private mailing list due to a Netscape legal case
Luckily this ought to be a thing of the past. Take a look at the StegFS Filesystem. It's all about the plausible denial aspect when being faced somebody trying to get access to your encrypted data. With this you can say you have no / no more data without them being able to disprove you (as opposed to having obvious encrypted files lying around). The worst thing that could happen is the other party wiping you drive.
This is just calculated risk on the insurers part.
It goes without saying, that no respectable insurance company will pay (or even sell you a policy) without auditing and/or making sure you're up to protecting your own system by either having your own able sysadmins or contracted ones.
Just think one or two milliseconds before you call people stupid.
checking out the Battelfield Earth page, I stumbled over this truly cool typo:
Because the pubic safety is at risk Factnet demands Warner come forward immediately and publicly answer all the above allegations!
Oh no, my pubic safety is at risk, somebody do something NOW !!!!:-)
Roland
PS: If there's anything to these allegatins, this is serious. Scientology should not have church status (as in Germany)anyway! Psychos.
you can then ftp install from the full
on
SuSE 6.4 Announced
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I don't know about OSS, but after you burned your iso-image and installed SuSE you can fire up YaST and then install the packages you missed on your EVALU-cdrom via ftp.
So even if you get the evalu-iso image, you still have access to the full distro for free.
If you tell a problem to go away, it will. However, it will still come back again to haunt you.
Believe me, no one with a right mind in Germany merely tells the problem to go away. As stated in other posts there's education (in all forms) going on inside schools and out. Still, 50 yrs after and it will go on and IMHO should never stop.
Please tell me, what reason other than trying to hold up "freedom of speech" by all means (which doesn't work anywhere btw, for good reasons) is there to allow Neonazis to bear swastikas etc.
IMHO it's also a sign of maturity finding out that there is no such thing as absolute freedom of speech. After all you'd have to ensure it and thereby already compromise somebody else's. As we see here on/. almost daily it's very difficult and the preferrably few restrictions should be placed very wisely.
This law doesn't inhibit in any way open discussion or block anything from mind. Open a book or watch tv or whatever if you want to learn. But I don't want to live in a Germany with that history and have to answer, why the hell we let Neonazis parade in the street bearing all those symbols. I think the same question being asked here "Didn't you learn?" would be much more profound then.
This is all part of never again and it's (mostly:) ) certainly not blind brainwashed fear but critical thinking.
hey, I apologize!
:-)
You're right, that sounded bigheaded and dumb. I was in a grumpy, haven't-had-my-coffee-yet, mood.
I guess what I meant is : I (usually) like the Economist, which isn't a particularly valuable piece of information, I admit.
Never mind. Good thing is, modding takes care of all that.
cheers,
Roland
*Please* don't make me click on the link read an article before I am able to post an insightful/funny/whatever comment to /. !!!!
right?
Let's hope this never happens again! But if it does, rest assured that an article from the Economist is worth your time, no matter what it's about. IMHO the Economist is the best English language news magazine on the market.
Roland
people complaining about other people's stereotypes should be more careful about throwing around their own.
I do agree with the point you make though.
Roland
Sorry to burst *your* bubble, but you're confusing 2 things: the _nature_ of mathematical proofs and the 'complexity' of recent deep/famous ones.
A mathematical proof is a logical consequence, given some axioms, including: 'Given, that we follow a certain scheme of logic'. That a^2 + b^2 = c^2 in a triangle with a 90 angle is a consequence of certain axioms and some logic. And, as the above poster pointed out, that will be so to eternity, precisely for the reason, that axioms do not have anything to do with the world per se and thus are not required to be checked against reality and/or changed.
That was all the above poster said and being a physicist, I admit that that's true with all ad- and disadvantages.
Now on the other hand, if a complicated proof can only be be peer-reviewed by so many people there is of course a danger, that it might be no proof, because they all make the same error. But that's a fact of life, and the probability of a proof being a proof goes to one, as the number of reviewers goes to infinity. Same thing applies btw. to your formal logic checking soft/hardware.
Your rant on non-perfectness of peer review has nothing to do with what the above poster said, i.e. that there is an inherent difference between math and any science, that tries to explain/explore the real world. One is a formal construction, the other tries to explain what is plainly there, with or without human brains trying to interpret it. You can not 'prove' anything in science, since the world doesn't give a fuck about the way you think about it and you can never be sure, that your axioms are correct. Conversely pure math doesn't give a fuck about being applicable to the real world.
Amen
I have a Thinkpad 240 and it was really loud. I always thought it to be the fan, so no relieve to be expected. But in reality it was the hdd. Now I switched for another and man, is that a difference. Maybe that would help on yours?
I can totally relate to going crazy being in front of a noisy laptop for hours.
subtotal = grandtotal = 0$. Man, I can tell you that thing is quiet!
You are asking for internals of a profit making company. You could just as well walk up to IBM and ask them. If you are not an important shareholder or member of the board, etc. why should they ever tell you? After all, if you'd really want to, you could go and read OSDN's (or wherever /.'s is published) annual business report for the most imortant numbers.
PBS, NPR, etc. have to tell you, since they public non-profit organisations .
cheers,
Roland
apart from talking common sense as usual, our dear Linus doesn't do justice to the grand master Tolkien. so sad...:
I guess Linus should grab his old copy of The Hobbit or LOTR and read in it a little again. It's always worth it! Would take his mind off nasty kernel-flamewars...
;-)
cheers,
Roland
it's a revelation to me, that this even holds on the mighty ISS.
The kernel works very nicely (in my case SuSE-off-the-shelf-2.4.2) on a TP 240. And you are right, the trackpoints are just ps/2 devices and as such no different than any other ps/2 mice.
There have been complaints also with Debian installs and on some occasions various PCMCIA-cards/controllers did not work (i.e. TP's).
But again: that's not a kernel but a distro issue!
if this (www.clanbob.net) is your website (as picked from the email adr.), then the only thing you need to do is cut the freaking Flash!!! And all those graphics!
that would *really* cut down your bandwidth. That is all well of course, if there is anything left afterwards...
cheers,
Roland
"they're not even a real country anyway..."
nuff said.
I concur wholeheartedly. Exactly my observation.
Those guys at MS are smart dudes and they're not in the business of divide and conquer since yesterday. If you disagree with this view of things just look up and down this story-page and whitness the minefield of licence-bickering exploding left and right. The real problem is, that their tactic has a fair chance of success. Luckily though, not every OSS-activist is a licence-nazi (whatever his/her preferred might be).
-> just relax and leave the flamethrowers in the closet.
Roland
and oh yeah: Mod this Yohann-guy up!!
Check prices: KDE K Desktop Environment
:-)
haha...
downgrades any respect for the writer immediately.
I think I have to butt in: :)
my history of TP's: 701c (yeah, the butterfly-keyboard...), 365X, 240. I have to say IMHO they're really beautiful laptops. Maybe you guys had bad experiences or something, but I do love them Thinkpads. When I got it 12 months ago, the TP240 was ~$1000 (new, egghead) which was almost a steal. Couldn't get that value anywhere, esp. with the crappy keyboards other notebooks exhibit.
But OTOH, considering this iSeries stuff, I guess IBM needs to make money on the cheap end, kind of like Mercedes-Benz going from classy upscale to building every freaking model that makes money (SUV, economy, blah). A shame I think, cause it dilutes the association of high quality with the brand.
Anyhow, just wanted to voice my (up to now) utmost pleasure with IBM-notebook computing, contrary to the prevailing mood here.
Roland
(btw: this was typed on the stone-age relic of 701c, which still work perfectly...)
as of Sun morning 00:54 EST, the highbidder has the positive feedback in reference to trading....
..._
BEANIE BABIES !!!!!!!!!
I'd sure as hell would check out how serious this guy if I were one of the PSC-folks.
total random net-weirdness. _shaking head
Roland
I'm all for nifty toys, but please make the basic work solidly before taking leaps and bounds to put a DOOM-capable OS on the camera.
Kinda like the guy on TV: "imagine JINI in your washing machine... it (the washer) will call you on the cell phone if it's flooding your basement. Now isn't that cool?" Now cool would be a washer that doesn't overflow in the first place!!! You would think that they could build that, if they can connect it to the net, wouldn't you??? But noooo...
Roland
this is nitpicking, but that spelling up there makes me want to cry. Such fine automobiles, they deserve our highest respect! It's
F E R R A R I
pleeeeaaaasee....
thanks,
Roland
Seeing the idea of Steganography kicked around here, I'd like to point you guys to StegFS which can help a lot if you don't want to disclose data to anybody unwanted. This makes it impossible for somebody to disprove you saying that you don't have anything on your machine and in consequence to get at your crucial files. I don't know if it supports non-Linux OS's though.
While I cannot think of securely wiring money back to non-government-conforming organizations in Iran (or whatever country, incl. US) I would think about doing "business" solely in the so-called free world and ship non-monetary goods back to Iran, which of course can be dangerous itself.
Another I piece of software I didn't see mentioned here is Outguess, a steganography tool. Attaching (prepared) binary data to mail or newsgroup messages is probably not a bad idea. One should think of ways of secure communication if that fails though (via enemy sysadmins)
Nevertheless I applaud those people trying to squeeze out a little freedom in literally opressing situations with the help of modern technology. It takes a lot of courage. Good luck.
cheers,
Roland
where he discusses the fact that he had to release the contents of a private mailing list due to a Netscape legal case
Luckily this ought to be a thing of the past. Take a look at the StegFS Filesystem. It's all about the plausible denial aspect when being faced somebody trying to get access to your encrypted data. With this you can say you have no / no more data without them being able to disprove you (as opposed to having obvious encrypted files lying around). The worst thing that could happen is the other party wiping you drive.
cheers,
Roland
This is just calculated risk on the insurers part.
It goes without saying, that no respectable insurance company will pay (or even sell you a policy) without auditing and/or making sure you're up to protecting your own system by either having your own able sysadmins or contracted ones.
Just think one or two milliseconds before you call people stupid.
Roland
(and this gets an "Insightful"......)
At least Jon learnt something from /. : :-)
Not once in is whole article he uses the word of fame...
Good going, Jon! See, it's not that hard... Makes it even more readable (ghasp!).
cheers,
Roland
Because the pubic safety is at risk Factnet demands Warner come forward immediately and publicly answer all the above allegations!
Oh no, my pubic safety is at risk, somebody do something NOW !!!! :-)
Roland
PS: If there's anything to these allegatins, this is serious. Scientology should not have church status (as in Germany)anyway! Psychos.
I don't know about OSS, but after you burned your iso-image and installed SuSE you can fire up YaST and then install the packages you missed on your EVALU-cdrom via ftp.
:-)
So even if you get the evalu-iso image, you still have access to the full distro for free.
After all a CDROM only(!) holds ~600MB.
cheers,
Roland
Believe me, no one with a right mind in Germany merely tells the problem to go away. As stated in other posts there's education (in all forms) going on inside schools and out. Still, 50 yrs after and it will go on and IMHO should never stop.
Please tell me, what reason other than trying to hold up "freedom of speech" by all means (which doesn't work anywhere btw, for good reasons) is there to allow Neonazis to bear swastikas etc.
IMHO it's also a sign of maturity finding out that there is no such thing as absolute freedom of speech. After all you'd have to ensure it and thereby already compromise somebody else's. As we see here on /. almost daily it's very difficult and the preferrably few restrictions should be placed very wisely.
This law doesn't inhibit in any way open discussion or block anything from mind. Open a book or watch tv or whatever if you want to learn. But I don't want to live in a Germany with that history and have to answer, why the hell we let Neonazis parade in the street bearing all those symbols. I think the same question being asked here "Didn't you learn?" would be much more profound then.
This is all part of never again and it's (mostly :) ) certainly not blind brainwashed fear but critical thinking.
greetings,
Roland