So? By the time one of those incidents happen, they can be ordered back to work. The idea that if some bureaucrat isn't around that you can't even safety a reactor is preposterously stupid.
Everyone in the lapdog press is running around crying Oh No'es but NOTHING bad is happening.
Well, nothing bad other than millions of Americans suddenly becoming essentially unemployed, even if temporarily, for which I can see no possible negative effect./sarc
House came together in a moment of rare bipartisanship to pass a bill, by a vote of 407 to 0, approving back pay for furloughed government workers.
President Obama has expressed his support for the measure.
Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid supports the measure, but said Saturday that if furloughed workers are guaranteed back pay, there’s no reason to keep them out of work.
They should be working, since they will be getting back pay. Why does Obama keep them home?
If a "mechanical failure" occurs, the last people you call are the regulators. You call your own technicians. You seem to have a very odd understanding of what these paper pushers really do in life.
Having a bunch of bureaucrats sitting around doing nothing but shuffling papers provides no additional safety. Sending them home provides no less safety.
The article and the summary would suggest everyone walked away from the control room, or at the very least, that the plant operators will now start drilling through the containment walls to roast hot dogs, or sell all the fuel to Iranians on the black market. More Scare tactics.
Everyone in the lapdog press is running around crying Oh No'es but NOTHING bad is happening. The country is once again reminded how useless most layers of government really are.
If it had not been found by some random diff then this would most definitely been found the moment someone ran the code through lint or some other static code checker, hell even GCC would throw a warning on compile (atleast a modern version, don't know how the version from 2003 worked).
If I understood correctly, this didn't get into CVS from a commit, it just ended up in there. And in many years of working with CVS, I'm pretty sure I've never seen that happen.
Well, thanks for making my point for me.
Clearly there is a lot of other "back doors" lurking in the wild, presumably in fully blessed and approved code, such as CVS code, and (I speculate) also in the Kernel.
I don't use CVS, but I would have expected that module not to pass the simplest of hash checking if someone simply reached around CVS into the file system, and inserted a line of code.
My point about it being a coding error was merely to suggest it is at least as likely as it being the work of the NSA or aliens.
There is direct proof someone tried to insert a back door,
Or there was a coding error. After all, one single missing "=" makes its effect that of a back door, even if that had not been the intent. One wonders just how many of this type of "back door" actually exists in the mountain of source code.
The unique thing about this incident is that it was only found by some random diff, not someone reading validly submitted code and saying "oh wait this is a back door".
Given all the massive patches and totally new sections of code that get submitted each year, its apparent that the code in the kernel is trusted because of where/who it comes from, not necessarily that every single line of it is "correct" or doing what it seems to be doing.
That may well be true. With regards to gold, it never was used to back paper, but mostly to manage international accounts, and usually with countries which had currency even more leveraged than the US currency.
I hope that GM and other manufacturers go all of the way with online sales. Car dealerships consume an absurd amount of commercial realestate, and it is frequently prime commercial realestate.
That's an odd objection, since realestate is one thing we don't really have a shortage of.
What would you put in those so call prime commercial realestate? More outlets to sell costume jewelry, handbags, and shoes?
Seriously, most car dealerships take up room, but even in densely populated areas, there is still plenty of space.
But hey, I'd rather car-shop online, and if that is EVER going to happen, law-makers have a vested interest in the success of GM (an "american" institution). Not so much in Tesla.
Everybody car shops on line. They read the specs, pick the model, look at prices, and maybe get a few quotes. Very few people actually order on line. (Women tend to do this more than men, but then women buy more than half the vehicles sold in the US).
I'm not willing to spend 25 or 50k on a strictly on line purchase. If I bought a Tesla I'd do the same on line shopping but I'd STILL go find a showroom/service center. (I'd have to drive to Seattle). I'm Not dumping that kind of money on the net, and having it show up wrong, dented, or what ever with out a local-ish resource.
GM is functionally incompetent when it comes to the internet. Tesla is new, small, agile, and responsive to the market.
Well Tesla has, what, one model, with very few options available. More coming, sure, but today, its pick your color and battery size, and send a check.
With any of the other big manufacturers, the combinations are almost endless. Engines, transmissions, rear ends, tires, interior trim, exterior trim, across maybe 10 or 30 models. Its a whole level of scale. They have never been set up to do this on a massive scale. Even the dealers need hand holding when ordering cars. Dealers typically order from a pick list of pre-configured models, of what they think will sell in their area.
When you come kicking tires, if they can't find a car you want on their lot, they might check other dealers, but sooner or later you end up settling for something handy or going for a custom order. And custom orders aren't quick through any of the big dealers. It can take a couple months easily, and if you are near the end of a model year you are SOL. So most people settle for what's on the lot.
Tesla was set up from the beginning to custom build from a SMALL selection of models. Detroit was set up to pre-build bazillions of standard models with a very few custom orders.
Still you have to give them credit for trying. You can already "custom build" by picking package options from most manufacturers. (Not with anywhere near a desirable level of granularity.) But you are going to go through a dealer somewhere along the line.
No, you could go to any Federally Charted bank and get Silver Dollars (which at that time were in fact silver).
You didn't need a truckload, you could do it bill by bill. Only after 1968 did they abrogate the promise of silver. This was preceded by a years notice, and was sort of a big deal at the time.
I distinctly remember many people gathering silver certificates and turning them in for silver granules. This they thought was a hedge against inflation. Shortly after 1968, the price of silver crashed, and many sold at a loss. By 78, silver had doubled from its 68 price, and by 88, it had risen ten fold.
It was only the bills marked Hawaii and North Africa that cold be canceled upon invasion.
Bullshit. 30 years living in Alaska, I can assure you there are places that have plenty of roaches. I remember this one ugly blue hotel in Nome... Slept with the lights on.
They probably came in via the congregated cardboard box, they can live on the glue alone for years. Further roaches survive light freezing, not too long, not too cold.
Do said lasers run for the entire operation cycle, or only for ignition?
If it were only for ignition, simply running longer might yield a positive balance. Is there any way the energy generated could in some way substitute for the lasers?
The problem in Oakland has far more to do with other factors, such as an ingrained distrust of the Cops (and for security guards as well, along with a healthy portion of disdain), and an extremely high percentage of the local population who are actively involved in crime. The biggest problem there is not that people are usually breaking the law, but the fact the laws are carefully written to oppose the wishes of the populace and make it nearly impossible to avoid breaking them.
You're an idiot. In one breath you say there is extremely high percentage of crime by the local population by people actively involved in crime. Then you say the laws are written to oppose the wishes of the populace. Well, guess what? Criminals oppose laws that outlaw thuggish behavior, theft, beating, and gang violence. Stop the presses!! Film at 11. Lets turn City hall over to the gang bangers. That way we could completely eliminate crime.
I fail to see how a private security firm would make any difference. In fact, the problem I see is anybody showing up just because there's a group of people. I don't give a fuck if there's 100 people, if they're not breaking any laws then there shouldn't be anyone in a uniform giving them a hard time.
Again, and idiot. The private security is there PRECISELY to prevent armed robberies of people waiting for a ride. Precisely because, wait for it,.... Armed Robbery is a crime. When you hire your own security guard, they aren't going to be giving you a hard time.
(Oh, yeah, I forgot, that's one of those laws the laws the thugs want stricken from the books).
No, that's not really legal at all, and morally reprehensible regardless. The Uniform is what carries authority, not the person (more specifically, the badge, but it's part of the uniform). A cop in uniform is ALWAYS on duty regardless of whether or not he's "punched the timeclock"... by definition. When he takes that uniform off and puts down his badge, he no longer has the authority of an Officer.
Third time: You're an Idiot. Hiring off duty cops to police an event or location is both legal, and a good way to expand the resource. They appear in uniform. They wear badges. They carry guns. They have powers of arrest. They are fully sworn cops. They enforce the laws. Even when they are being paid by a private party.
There is nothing morally reprehensible about this at all. Its legal in every state in the Union, and Canada and Mexico as well. Its been upheld in every court in the land.
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So?
By the time one of those incidents happen, they can be ordered back to work.
The idea that if some bureaucrat isn't around that you can't even safety a reactor is preposterously stupid.
You do realize that a bill has already passed to guarantee back pay for these workers right? So why aren't they at work?
Everyone in the lapdog press is running around crying Oh No'es but NOTHING bad is happening.
Well, nothing bad other than millions of Americans suddenly becoming essentially unemployed, even if temporarily, for which I can see no possible negative effect. /sarc
Apparently you haven't heard!
They are all going to get paid
House came together in a moment of rare bipartisanship to pass a bill, by a vote of 407 to 0, approving back pay for furloughed government workers.
President Obama has expressed his support for the measure.
Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid supports the measure, but said Saturday that if furloughed workers are guaranteed back pay, there’s no reason to keep them out of work.
They should be working, since they will be getting back pay.
Why does Obama keep them home?
How many hours do they have to respond.
Big deal, you make the call.
Their answering machine and your telephone log relieves you of any fault.
Mean time you solve the problem by the book, and document it the same way you always would.
If a "mechanical failure" occurs, the last people you call are the regulators.
You call your own technicians.
You seem to have a very odd understanding of what these paper pushers really do in life.
Having a bunch of bureaucrats sitting around doing nothing but shuffling papers provides no additional safety.
Sending them home provides no less safety.
The article and the summary would suggest everyone walked away from the control room, or at the very least, that the plant operators will now start drilling through the containment walls to roast hot dogs, or sell all the fuel to Iranians on the black market. More Scare tactics.
Everyone in the lapdog press is running around crying Oh No'es but NOTHING bad is happening.
The country is once again reminded how useless most layers of government really are.
If it had not been found by some random diff then this would most definitely been found the moment someone ran the code through lint or some other static code checker, hell even GCC would throw a warning on compile (atleast a modern version, don't know how the version from 2003 worked).
Your assessment seems to differ with that of Simon Brooke in this same thread:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4319279&cid=45083911
If I understood correctly, this didn't get into CVS from a commit, it just ended up in there. And in many years of working with CVS, I'm pretty sure I've never seen that happen.
Well, thanks for making my point for me.
Clearly there is a lot of other "back doors" lurking in the wild, presumably in fully blessed and approved code, such as CVS code, and (I speculate) also in the Kernel.
I don't use CVS, but I would have expected that module not to pass the simplest of hash checking if someone simply reached around CVS into the file system, and inserted a line of code.
My point about it being a coding error was merely to suggest it is at least as likely as it being the work of the NSA or aliens.
There is direct proof someone tried to insert a back door,
Or there was a coding error. After all, one single missing "=" makes its effect that of a back door, even if that had not been the intent.
One wonders just how many of this type of "back door" actually exists in the mountain of source code.
The unique thing about this incident is that it was only found by some random diff, not someone reading validly submitted code and saying "oh wait this is a back door".
Given all the massive patches and totally new sections of code that get submitted each year, its apparent that the code in the kernel is trusted because of where/who it comes from, not necessarily that every single line of it is "correct" or doing what it seems to be doing.
It was only the bills marked Hawaii and North Africa that cold be canceled upon invasion.
Inflation? What?
Couldn't you just follow the link four posts above and manage the gaps in your education by yourself?
Invasion. Nothing to do with inflation. There was a war on.
That may well be true. With regards to gold, it never was used to back paper, but mostly to manage international accounts, and usually with countries which had currency even more leveraged than the US currency.
True, but Tesla hasn't got very many models to sell either.
I hope that GM and other manufacturers go all of the way with online sales. Car dealerships consume an absurd amount of commercial realestate, and it is frequently prime commercial realestate.
That's an odd objection, since realestate is one thing we don't really have a shortage of.
What would you put in those so call prime commercial realestate? More outlets to sell costume jewelry, handbags, and shoes?
Seriously, most car dealerships take up room, but even in densely populated areas, there is still plenty of space.
But hey, I'd rather car-shop online, and if that is EVER going to happen, law-makers have a vested interest in the success of GM (an "american" institution). Not so much in Tesla.
Everybody car shops on line. They read the specs, pick the model, look at prices, and maybe get a few quotes. Very few people actually order on line. (Women tend to do this more than men, but then women buy more than half the vehicles sold in the US).
I'm not willing to spend 25 or 50k on a strictly on line purchase. If I bought a Tesla I'd do the same on line shopping but I'd STILL go find a showroom/service center. (I'd have to drive to Seattle). I'm Not dumping that kind of money on the net, and having it show up wrong, dented, or what ever with out a local-ish resource.
GM is functionally incompetent when it comes to the internet. Tesla is new, small, agile, and responsive to the market.
Well Tesla has, what, one model, with very few options available. More coming, sure, but today, its pick your color and battery size, and send a check.
With any of the other big manufacturers, the combinations are almost endless. Engines, transmissions, rear ends, tires, interior trim, exterior trim, across maybe 10 or 30 models. Its a whole level of scale. They have never been set up to do this on a massive scale. Even the dealers need hand holding when ordering cars. Dealers typically order from a pick list of pre-configured models, of what they think will sell in their area.
When you come kicking tires, if they can't find a car you want on their lot, they might check other dealers, but sooner or later you end up settling for something handy or going for a custom order. And custom orders aren't quick through any of the big dealers. It can take a couple months easily, and if you are near the end of a model year you are SOL. So most people settle for what's on the lot.
Tesla was set up from the beginning to custom build from a SMALL selection of models. Detroit was set up to pre-build bazillions of standard models with a very few custom orders.
Still you have to give them credit for trying. You can already "custom build" by picking package options from most manufacturers. (Not with anywhere near a desirable level of granularity.) But you are going to go through a dealer somewhere along the line.
No, you could go to any Federally Charted bank and get Silver Dollars (which at that time were in fact silver).
You didn't need a truckload, you could do it bill by bill. Only after 1968 did they abrogate the promise
of silver. This was preceded by a years notice, and was sort of a big deal at the time.
I distinctly remember many people gathering silver certificates and turning them in for silver granules.
This they thought was a hedge against inflation. Shortly after 1968, the price of silver crashed, and many sold at a loss.
By 78, silver had doubled from its 68 price, and by 88, it had risen ten fold.
It was only the bills marked Hawaii and North Africa that cold be canceled upon invasion.
It was never backed by gold.
But it was once backed by SILVER, an it said so right on the face of Silver Certificates, which you could turn in for actual silver. Allegedly.
I think it's good to point out why the NSA spying on everything is a good thing to people who might otherwise be apathetic,
Reading your post makes it hard to discern whether you are delusional, typing too fast, or just trolling.
If they exist in Nome, I'm at a loss to figure out where they wouldn't.
Thanks for your insight, kid. I'm sure I would never have figured that out by myself even after living here for longer than you have been alive.
Nothing you've said is remotely germain.
Bullshit. 30 years living in Alaska, I can assure you there are places that have plenty of roaches.
I remember this one ugly blue hotel in Nome... Slept with the lights on.
They probably came in via the congregated cardboard box, they can live on the glue alone for years.
Further roaches survive light freezing, not too long, not too cold.
US news agencies are busy covering government shutdown.
And perhaps the National Ignition Facility is on furlough, and all but shut down, and unavailable to hold press conferences.
Do said lasers run for the entire operation cycle, or only for ignition?
If it were only for ignition, simply running longer might yield a positive balance.
Is there any way the energy generated could in some way substitute for the lasers?
Except you failed to read the article. (I know, its slashdot).
These aren't rich people we are talking about.
They are ride sharing people, waiting for their ride. Rich people don't share rides.
They are all standing around in a convenient place location and a thug walks up with a gun and starts collecting wallets and phones.
Why do you have to turn that into class warfare? It has nothing to do with rich or poor, but in this case it was just working stiffs getting robbed.
They don't need an 10 new police officers 24/7, they need 3 or 4, for at most a couple hours at quitting time every afternoon.
The problem in Oakland has far more to do with other factors, such as an ingrained distrust of the Cops (and for security guards as well, along with a healthy portion of disdain), and an extremely high percentage of the local population who are actively involved in crime. The biggest problem there is not that people are usually breaking the law, but the fact the laws are carefully written to oppose the wishes of the populace and make it nearly impossible to avoid breaking them.
You're an idiot.
In one breath you say there is extremely high percentage of crime by the local population by people actively involved in crime.
Then you say the laws are written to oppose the wishes of the populace.
Well, guess what? Criminals oppose laws that outlaw thuggish behavior, theft, beating, and gang violence. Stop the presses!! Film at 11.
Lets turn City hall over to the gang bangers. That way we could completely eliminate crime.
I fail to see how a private security firm would make any difference. In fact, the problem I see is anybody showing up just because there's a group of people. I don't give a fuck if there's 100 people, if they're not breaking any laws then there shouldn't be anyone in a uniform giving them a hard time.
Again, and idiot.
The private security is there PRECISELY to prevent armed robberies of people waiting for a ride. Precisely because, wait for it,.... Armed Robbery is a crime. When you hire your own security guard, they aren't going to be giving you a hard time.
(Oh, yeah, I forgot, that's one of those laws the laws the thugs want stricken from the books).
No, that's not really legal at all, and morally reprehensible regardless. The Uniform is what carries authority, not the person (more specifically, the badge, but it's part of the uniform). A cop in uniform is ALWAYS on duty regardless of whether or not he's "punched the timeclock"... by definition. When he takes that uniform off and puts down his badge, he no longer has the authority of an Officer.
Third time: You're an Idiot.
Hiring off duty cops to police an event or location is both legal, and a good way to expand the resource. They appear in uniform. They wear badges. They carry guns. They have powers of arrest. They are fully sworn cops. They enforce the laws. Even when they are being paid by a private party.
There is nothing morally reprehensible about this at all. Its legal in every state in the Union, and Canada and Mexico as well. Its been upheld in every court in the land.