You make a distinction without a difference. You can bet this won't apply to autonomous vehicles. How do you propose to give a ticket to to a computer program? When the right lane is full of autonomous vehicles, slowed by any normal traffic delay, these vehicles will fill the second and third lanes, all going less than the speed limit. Humans would drive faster.
Even the cheapest consume GPS computes a full three dimensional position.
And most report elevation in terms of a perfect sphere, and calculate your elevation offset from the center of the Satellites orbit. But Earth isn't a sphere, so most cell phone GPSs will show you at minus 15 feet while dipping your toes in the ocean.
Garmin, having the advantage of periodic accurate elevation measures corrects for this in their road nav units, and I've gone over mountain passes where elevation is posted and noticed the Garmin is never off by more than 4 to 10 feet on a 5000 foot pass. My phone is consistently off by as much as 27 meters of height.
So admittedly the GPS might be off somewhat on a steep long grade.
Nobody cares about this because Its relative speed that kills.
A car going up/down a steep hill at the speed limit and crashing into a stationary object is going to suffer the same amount of damage as one going the speed limit on a flat surface. It matters not a wit that the horizontal distance traveled is less on an incline.
Most roads are built to no more than 6% grade. (In fact you will see warning signs any time it approaches 5%).
After market GPSs may in fact take this into account, because they all measure altitude. Built in GPSs almost always take their speed reading from the wheels.
Exactly. This will come, but only when cars are self driving.
When that happens all traffic will go the speed limit because the self driving cars will block all lanes and drive strictly according to the speed limit. Cops aren't going to pull over a self driving car and write it a ticket for being in the wrong lane.
(That happens often in the US when you drive the speed limit in the left lane. You won't be ticketed for driving the speed limit, but for being in the wrong lane based on your speed. The law in most places is "slower traffic keep right", a semi official wink-wink, nod-nod to speeding.)
No autonomous car manufacturer will program anything in the software to allow even 1mph over the speed limit.
Almost every GPS I have owned will report Elevation if you set it to do so, but it doesn't matter to the road driver. 70Mph is 70Mph whether you are going uphill or down. The law governs speed along the road surface.
My Navigator knows the speed limit and gongs if I pass it, why not just link it with the maximum speed of the cruise control in the same fucking computer?
I'd pay for that, since it would save me many tickets.
Wait, you hear the gongs, but still ignore the limit.
But would pay for something to force you to slow down? For 6450 Euros, I will send you a small block of wood to put under your gas-pedal preventing it from being depressed that far.
I know someone so willfully ignorant won't read any of those links, so the short answer is that the NSA can and does listen in to your calls on the phone, on skype, and with this new routing, they will be able to listen in on Facetime as well, in spite of Apple's self serving denials. Remember that Apple is not above outright bold faced lies to the press./
The reports weren't wrong, the invasion was just too slow. Your mainstream press at work again ignoring the facts so they wouldn't have to retrace their Bush Lied campaign in the middle of an election.
I was about the say the same thing. This is harebrained scheming money, not something that can deliver even a back-of-the-envelope design money.
Still, you can't say STEM jobs would be underpaid, sinc this is something you would take on with, maybe 3 to 5 guys from different backgrounds sitting around and bullshitting up a system in three to six months. Just under a 200K for half a years work.
For this kind of money, nobody expects it to actually work, or even have complete plans.
He didn't say it would work across ALL ranges, he said it would work across Several ranges. Stop putting words in his mouth.
Such meters are commonly available, in un-certified condition, and fully certified ones from reliable labs are in the hands of every hazmat team in the nation. (Its the exact same equipment, its just one is calibrated).
Any of these would have indicated more than the 100mSv that the Tepco meter pegged at. The common ones go up to 500rem. (The reported 100 millisieverts =10 rem).
US intel is not "stupid" except when talking to Congress, which is.
This is the same 'US intel' which missed the collapse of the USSR, 9/11, the Boston Bombers, and were totally sure Saddam Hussein had WMDs, right, not another 'US intel' that's actually competent?
As for original comment, intercepting calls is vastly easier when they go to a central server and they have direct access to the decrypted data than when they go peer to peer with encryption.
The collapse of the USSR was well known in the press ahead of time. I remember reading predictions a couple months in advance.
The NSA knew about 9/11, they were monitoring those guys, but nobody was listening to them seriously in those days. That's the date they started being taken seriously.
Boston Marathon: I bet they knew something was up with those guys as well, although a quiet plot between brothers is pretty hard to intercept.
In the case of Skype the very FIRST thing Microsoft did (was forced to do) was bring all call routing back through their own servers
How do you know the patent troll in this case wasn't funded by the NSA to force the very same thing on Apple? By forcing Apple to route all sessions through their already compromised data centers, the ability for the government to monitor the calls is restored, and Apple doesn't have to admit anything. Apple already appears on the leaked Prism source chart. So forcing all facetime sessions to go through already compromised data centers would be a high priority for the NSA.
I don't think you can dismiss out of hand the possibility that this was a planned outcome.
True, but you wouldn't even need ssl with client side encryption.
Much of the problem with encryption is that everyone relies on libraries, (due, to the same reasons that cause panic attacks on slashdot has when anyone mentions "rolling their own").
Reliance on Microsoft Crypto binaries, which are already backdoored by the NSA) would have to be a no-no in any Open Sourced client. That would make the code a bit more complex. Other than that the encryption routines themselves would not have to be all that complex, and with third party eyes on it it could come to be trusted.
This whole line of argument is that the NSA could force the insertion of something into software. I'm not sure there is a legal precedent for that, and some people would rais a stink or simply shut down the whole business, signaling to the world what had happened.
When someone is buying a security product, and buying one that specifically bills itself as open source you can bet there will be many many sets of eyes on the code. It only takes one person to spot something like that, and you would be able to add your own layer of encryption on top of what was already in the open source.
So, no, open source is not as easy to beat as you suggest.
If a service provides an open source encryption routine, and also, perhaps, but not necessarily required, an open source transfer routine for the already encrypted files, you could air gap the encryption task from the transfer task, and even with a court order and a shot gun to their head, the company couldn't give you data away.
Spideroak has promised to open source their client for exactly this reason. So far they haven't delivered.
If you're going for automation - why not just fixed cameras and other sensors covering the whole area?
Cost and because they're also easier to map out and avoid? It doesn't need to be everywhere, it's enough that it could be everywhere as that makes the risk non-zero no matter the plan. I don't see this as an either-or, you'd want basic surveillance of the whole area with roaming security to add some dynamic to the system.
Somehow non of those reasons have stopped the British. An article published in CCTV Image magazine estimates that the number of cameras in the UK is 1.85 million. And that's just the public ones run by the police.
You can taunt the mall cop all you want, and there is not much he can do. But spray paint him and you probably will be arrested. Probably just property damage if you spray paint the robot. When a flash mob forms and disrupts all the robots at once, the police will quickly realize the false alarms aren't worth the trouble.
"This type of lawsuit can help regain some of the liberties the government has taken away FROM CORPORATIONS, or at least some of the transparency".
FTFY
Well, when you are served with a FISA order, we will worry about your liberties.
In the mean time I'm pretty happy to have them pushing back, and I wish ALL the big companies would follow. There is no doubt they are seeing this as harmful to their business, because users feel betrayed.
They need to push for revealing MORE information. For instance, EVERY USER, who's account was subject to such an order should be notified (after a suitable passage of time, 6 months seems right for most cases). The government would have to offer up this fact in Discovery if someone was subsequently charged, why should an innocent person deserve less?
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Where did I say anything about hitting another vehicle?
You make a distinction without a difference.
You can bet this won't apply to autonomous vehicles. How do you propose to give a ticket to to a computer program?
When the right lane is full of autonomous vehicles, slowed by any normal traffic delay, these vehicles will fill the second and third lanes, all going less than the speed limit.
Humans would drive faster.
Even the cheapest consume GPS computes a full three dimensional position.
And most report elevation in terms of a perfect sphere, and calculate your elevation offset from the center of the Satellites orbit.
But Earth isn't a sphere, so most cell phone GPSs will show you at minus 15 feet while dipping your toes in the ocean.
Garmin, having the advantage of periodic accurate elevation measures corrects for this in their road nav units, and I've gone over mountain passes where elevation is posted and noticed the Garmin is never off by more than 4 to 10 feet on a 5000 foot pass. My phone is consistently off by as much as 27 meters of height.
Straight Down is not 100% grade. 45 degrees = 100% grade. (Rise over Run is the formula.)
So admittedly the GPS might be off somewhat on a steep long grade.
Nobody cares about this because Its relative speed that kills.
A car going up/down a steep hill at the speed limit and crashing into a stationary object is going to suffer the same amount of damage as one going the speed limit on a flat surface. It matters not a wit that the horizontal distance traveled is less on an incline.
Most roads are built to no more than 6% grade. (In fact you will see warning signs any time it approaches 5%).
After market GPSs may in fact take this into account, because they all measure altitude.
Built in GPSs almost always take their speed reading from the wheels.
Exactly.
This will come, but only when cars are self driving.
When that happens all traffic will go the speed limit because the self driving cars will block all lanes and drive strictly according to the speed limit. Cops aren't going to pull over a self driving car and write it a ticket for being in the wrong lane.
(That happens often in the US when you drive the speed limit in the left lane. You won't be ticketed for driving the speed limit, but for being in the wrong lane based on your speed. The law in most places is "slower traffic keep right", a semi official wink-wink, nod-nod to speeding.)
No autonomous car manufacturer will program anything in the software to allow even 1mph over the speed limit.
WTF does elevation have to do with it?
Almost every GPS I have owned will report Elevation if you set it to do so, but it doesn't matter to the road driver.
70Mph is 70Mph whether you are going uphill or down. The law governs speed along the road surface.
Already common.
Its a cost extra option on many cars, but it will save its purchase price in insurance premiums.
My Navigator knows the speed limit and gongs if I pass it, why not just link it with the maximum speed of the cruise control in the same fucking computer?
I'd pay for that, since it would save me many tickets.
Wait, you hear the gongs, but still ignore the limit.
But would pay for something to force you to slow down?
For 6450 Euros, I will send you a small block of wood to put under your gas-pedal preventing it from being depressed that far.
And either way if they're not bothering with the actual content of the call but just who called who when
Sad to see someone so far out of touch with reality.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57589495-38/nsa-spying-flap-extends-to-contents-of-u.s-phone-calls/
http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2013/07/29/Greenwald-NSA-Listens-to-Your-Phone-Calls
http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/305803-report-nsa-admits-listening-to-phone-calls-without-warrants
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2342579/NSA-listen-U-S-phone-calls-warrant-according-congressman.html
http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/the-nsa-can-listen-to-skype-calls-thanks-to-microsoft
http://www.heavy.com/news/2013/07/microsoft-nsa-skype-outlook-skydrive-snowden/
http://www.heavy.com/news/2013/07/microsoft-nsa-skype-outlook-skydrive-snowden/
I know someone so willfully ignorant won't read any of those links, so the short answer is that the NSA can and does listen in to your calls on the phone, on skype, and with this new routing, they will be able to listen in on Facetime as well, in spite of Apple's self serving denials.
Remember that Apple is not above outright bold faced lies to the press./
All the WMD went through the port of Rotterdam as scrap just ahead of or concurrent with the invasion.
Saddam didn't want to get caught with them.
http://archives.hawaiireporter.com/iraqi-wmd-components-found-in-rotterdam-scrapyard/
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2004/jun/10/20040610-103512-5542r/
http://www.scottdstrader.com/blog/ether_archives/000080.html
http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=3857
The reports weren't wrong, the invasion was just too slow. Your mainstream press at work again ignoring the facts so they wouldn't have to retrace their Bush Lied campaign in the middle of an election.
Maybe he meant Fraking?
I was about the say the same thing.
This is harebrained scheming money, not something that can deliver even a back-of-the-envelope design money.
Still, you can't say STEM jobs would be underpaid, sinc this is something you would take on with, maybe 3 to 5 guys from different backgrounds sitting around and bullshitting up a system in three to six months. Just under a 200K for half a years work.
For this kind of money, nobody expects it to actually work, or even have complete plans.
He didn't say it would work across ALL ranges, he said it would work across Several ranges. Stop putting words in his mouth.
Such meters are commonly available, in un-certified condition, and fully certified ones from reliable labs are in the hands of every hazmat team in the nation. (Its the exact same equipment, its just one is calibrated).
Any of these would have indicated more than the 100mSv that the Tepco meter pegged at. The common ones go up to 500rem. (The reported 100 millisieverts =10 rem).
US intel is not "stupid" except when talking to Congress, which is.
This is the same 'US intel' which missed the collapse of the USSR, 9/11, the Boston Bombers, and were totally sure Saddam Hussein had WMDs, right, not another 'US intel' that's actually competent?
As for original comment, intercepting calls is vastly easier when they go to a central server and they have direct access to the decrypted data than when they go peer to peer with encryption.
The collapse of the USSR was well known in the press ahead of time. I remember reading predictions a couple months in advance.
The NSA knew about 9/11, they were monitoring those guys, but nobody was listening to them seriously in those days. That's the date they started being taken seriously.
Boston Marathon: I bet they knew something was up with those guys as well, although a quiet plot between brothers is pretty hard to intercept.
Nothing to do with ability to intercept.
Wait, why was parent marked troll?
In the case of Skype the very FIRST thing Microsoft did (was forced to do) was bring all call routing back through their own servers
How do you know the patent troll in this case wasn't funded by the NSA to force the very same thing on Apple? By forcing Apple to route all sessions through their already compromised data centers, the ability for the government to monitor the calls is restored, and Apple doesn't have to admit anything. Apple already appears on the leaked Prism source chart. So forcing all facetime sessions to go through already compromised data centers would be a high priority for the NSA.
I don't think you can dismiss out of hand the possibility that this was a planned outcome.
It only takes one set of eyes, and one post to Slashdot.
True, but you wouldn't even need ssl with client side encryption.
Much of the problem with encryption is that everyone relies on libraries, (due, to the same reasons that cause panic attacks on slashdot has when anyone mentions "rolling their own").
Reliance on Microsoft Crypto binaries, which are already backdoored by the NSA) would have to be a no-no in any Open Sourced client. That would make the code a bit more complex. Other than that the encryption routines themselves would not have to be all that complex, and with third party eyes on it it could come to be trusted.
This whole line of argument is that the NSA could force the insertion of something into software.
I'm not sure there is a legal precedent for that, and some people would rais a stink or simply shut down the whole business, signaling to the world what had happened.
When someone is buying a security product, and buying one that specifically bills itself as open source you can bet there will be many many sets of eyes on the code. It only takes one person to spot something like that, and you would be able to add your own layer of encryption on top of what was already in the open source.
So, no, open source is not as easy to beat as you suggest.
That's not Exactly true.
If a service provides an open source encryption routine, and also, perhaps, but not necessarily required, an open source transfer routine for the already encrypted files, you could air gap the encryption task from the transfer task, and even with a court order and a shot gun to their head, the company couldn't give you data away.
Spideroak has promised to open source their client for exactly this reason. So far they haven't delivered.
If you're going for automation - why not just fixed cameras and other sensors covering the whole area?
Cost and because they're also easier to map out and avoid? It doesn't need to be everywhere, it's enough that it could be everywhere as that makes the risk non-zero no matter the plan. I don't see this as an either-or, you'd want basic surveillance of the whole area with roaming security to add some dynamic to the system.
Somehow non of those reasons have stopped the British. An article published in CCTV Image magazine estimates that the number of cameras in the UK is 1.85 million. And that's just the public ones run by the police.
You can taunt the mall cop all you want, and there is not much he can do.
But spray paint him and you probably will be arrested. Probably just property damage if you spray paint the robot.
When a flash mob forms and disrupts all the robots at once, the police will quickly realize the false alarms aren't worth the trouble.
Americans, enjoying your fascism yet?
Go ahead, convince us its better where you live.
Particularly Wastebook, stand up and do the same.
Does Facebook even HAVE data they promise not to share openly? I thought that was their business model.
I can't imagine any "Big Money" is in favor of this power grab. Except perhaps those selling equipment.
"This type of lawsuit can help regain some of the liberties the government has taken away FROM CORPORATIONS, or at least some of the transparency".
FTFY
Well, when you are served with a FISA order, we will worry about your liberties.
In the mean time I'm pretty happy to have them pushing back, and I wish ALL the big companies would follow.
There is no doubt they are seeing this as harmful to their business, because users feel betrayed.
They need to push for revealing MORE information. For instance, EVERY USER, who's account was
subject to such an order should be notified (after a suitable passage of time, 6 months seems right for most cases).
The government would have to offer up this fact in Discovery if someone was subsequently charged, why should an innocent person deserve less?