So you're one of those web developers who has helped make that dim vision of a web where every website is just a container for a massive Flash mess a reality. Please, stop doing this. I don't have Flash. I never will. I want to look at your website, but I guess I nevel will do that, either.
We used to develop sites in a text editor. CSS, Javascript, HTML, DHTML, XML. We even had our own markup languages. The sites we produced were functional, but looked awful.
Macromedia Flash is what HTML/CSS wanted to be. Unfortunately HTML/CSS depends on a standard browser. There is no such thing as a standard browser. After years (oh, let's start in 1999) of having to re-design entire sites to get around the fact that it is impossible for any illustration to have an alpha channel unless it is a GIF, we finally said "forget this" and moved to Flash MX.
Now we can make sites that don't look awful, and it is irrelevant what browser is being used. We can use fonts. We can use PNG instead of GIF. We don't have to use Javascript, knowing with 100% certainty that it will fail on at least 1/3 of the browsers that visit our site. We don't have to test our site in 49 different browsers.
Well if I was hiring someone for a business I would give the nod to the business major.
Anything but that philosophy guy, right? Another education wasted.
If your major was in philosophy and you want a job in big business then you are not as smart as you think you are.
Absolutely incredible. Big business is so much smarter than everyone else, isn't it? Hiring managers can sit there and proclaim someone to have a lack of intellect based solely on the major they dedicated their education to. Absolutely incredible. And people actually have to ask why half the working-age adults are not employed full-time.
While I think education is very important it does not mean that you are a mensa member when you graduate.
The more businesses have that attitude the more education will suffer. The literacy rate will continue to drop and society will suffer as a result. People have no reason to go to college if the social contract is ignored.
Your parents and grandparents worked hard so you would not have to...
And they failed, just like I have. All of their efforts along with all of mine have been destroyed by office politics and greed.
Do I think business is always fair....no way! Is life always fair....nope.
Maybe this should be taught to people before they shovel their money into a worthless education.
1. There will be a massively powerful race/class combination (Borg Shadow Priest) that can do 350 dps perpetually at extreme ranges against which no other class will have any defense. When the other classes complain, they will be told that PvP isn't balanced for 1 vs 1 (unless you're a Borg Shadow Priest) and that it's Rock Paper Scissors (unless you're a Borg Shadow Priest, which is a block of solid iron)
2. The system of rank will be exactly like World of Queuecraft's pvp system, meaning there will be one Admiral and 175,934 Ensigns on every server.
3. Experience will be the most fun. Since there are no murlocs to fight, grinding will be retuning the deflector dish 150,000 times a day.
I use PNG transparencies and I have the javascript code that fixes it for IE.
We just use Macromedia Flash MX. Solves ALL browser problems instantly. HTML/Javascript/CSS is awful for anything even remotely more advanced than paragraphs of text. Like, for example PNG files. Browser incompatibilities are a phenomenal waste of time.
If your degree is in Philosophy it will probably not help you in the business world.
Just made my point. Why wouldn't a degree in Philosophy help in the business world? Does business exist in some kind of alternate dimension where philosophy doesn't? Someone who completed a degree in Philosophy is probably brilliantly intelligent and someone who can analyze business problems from a variety of perspectives. They are probably also above-average writers and problem-solvers.
But it's not on the list of buzzword-majors so it doesn't count. Might as well have spent the tuition money on a cruise. Another education actively wasted by business on purpose.
I don't know what you really expect. No one owes you anything.
Fine. Then society shouldn't lie to people. I expect a career around which I can build a home and a family. That's what my parents and grandparents worked so hard for. They weren't cheated out of their hard work. My generation is the FIRST IN HISTORY that will do WORSE than the previous one.
Maybe you were part of that "every thing is owed to me" type of teaching I was talking about.
The teaching was rather simple: Go to school. Work hard. Get a good job. You'll succeed.
I did the first three, and I did them well. The fourth was a lie. If I succeed it will not be because I "got a good job." It will be because I did twice the work.
I've been amazed at truly how desperate the companies I've worked at were to find not only _good_ people but the resume's of people who actually had the slightest bit of knowledge in the field
Wow this is getting old. "Everyone is a mouth-breathing moron. There are no qualified people upon this green spinning Earth." It's getting really REALLY old. Most companies ignore qualified people as a matter of policy. The rest they just lay off as fast as they can fill out the paperwork.
"We want brilliant self-starters with gleaming degrees and years upon years of high-level go-getter achievements. Once they are hired we expect them to become compliant slaves who will never question, never speak, never miss a chance to work a double-shift and never complain they are being paid about 1/3 what they are worth. When they are fired, we want them to blame themselves, acquire more skills, emerge from bankruptcy, slap on a spearmint smile, straighten their tie and start over at half pay."
They don't have any experience in the specific field (database driven websites), or even in the general technologies (when to use a left join in SQL)
But they have five years of Perl. So why can't they learn the specific field?
Anyone that can write Perl can learn when to use a left join in SQL. Employers should be training their employees. Not expecting them to materialize perfect at their desk the moment the job ad appears. Society figured that out centuries ago. Any programmer is qualified to build a database-driven web site.
Wow, you sound too much like the average Dilbert strip
Dilbert wouldn't be funny if it weren't true. Cubicle office politics is one of the most destructive forces in society right now. Loss of adequate reliable income is a direct cause of divorce, foreclosure, bankruptcy, depression, alcoholism and a variety of other societal problems. It's not funny. It's not a joke. It's the truth.
When did they start charging movie show snack prices for cold breakfast cereal?
Right about the time companies started mass layoffs as the all-purpose fix for anything that goes right or wrong. The corn to make a box of Corn Flakes costs oh, about twelve cents.
Yep. In fact, the bank industry is so automated at this point that there is absolutely no need for any thought at all. There is not one ounce of humanity in the bank industry. If the numbers add up, the dollars are tall. If the numbers don't add up, the dollars are small. End of story.
Wow, then I just had an idea that could solve your little unemployment problem.
Oh good. Let's patronize unemployed people, shall we? That will surely help us all succeed.
You surely are competent enough to cash a check, right?
Is that a marketable skill?
Unless of course there is more to the world of banking than you realize
Yes. Don't forget the meetings, and the catered steamed lobster for lunch, and the expense accounts, and being paid to sit and talk about golf all day on the phone. I would love to see a list of the "marketable skills" required to make a six-figure salary at a bank. That would be entertaining.
People always argue those statistics. The reason they do is because it's really difficult to admit that business is fucking people over like that. But they are.
You say you went to a university
Only a claim, right? Sounds more and more like an interview. "So, you claim to have a degree..." and once I prove it they say "well, degrees aren't worth what they used to be worth..." and on it goes until they say "I'm very sorry but you're not qualified to paste bullshit into Powerpoint presentations." And resume #873 gets reverse-vaccuumed into the shitpipe.
sometimes two at once and never had a problem getting a job.
Must be nice to automatically get hired whenever you want. What would be better is if people had no problem keeping a job. My parents average length of employment was well over 20 years. Mine is just under 12 months.
My parents and grandparents all combined were laid off precisely once. I have been laid off, "downsized" or outright fired (usually with the rest of my group/team/division) ten times.
My generation is being fucked over on a scale that is beyond belief. It's wrong.
I would like to see the figures that back up your claim that half of working age adults are not employed full time.
Bureau of Labor Statistics. Half of all working age adults are either:
1. Temps 2. Part-time 3. Unemployed 4. Out of the work force entirely (read: unemployed for so long they have no more unemployment)
This is entirely consistent with what most people in their 20s and 30s can observe on a daily basis. People constantly worried about layoffs. Constantly being laid off, fired, downsized, being asked to work extra for no extra pay, taking pay cuts, training their replacements, etc. If people get an interview they don't have the "necessary skills." If people can find a job, they can't keep it. If they can keep it, it doesn't pay enough.
Of the half that are employed in full-time, regular, permanent jobs, most aren't being paid well enough to support themselves, much less a family and a mortgage.
As far a permanent employee goes, no one is guaranteed a job for life
The bank is guaranteed mortgage payments for 30 years. The landlord is guaranteed rent first of every month. Unfair. Sorry.
"You don't need an English degree to communicate well" sounds like something a boss or an interviewer would say.
It devalues the education that degree represents. Having an employee who dedicated their education to the study of the language required for any business to function should be a valuable member of that business, and they would be if business wasn't so single-mindedly obsessed with belittling, trivializing and ignoring the educations of their employees and job candidates.
Business has nothing but contempt for people in general. They have less contempt for "consumers" because consumers spend money. They actively loathe employees because employees cost money. The first autonomic reflex of any business today to any announcement, good or bad, is to announce layoffs: to destroy the lives and homes of thousands, to waste their educations, to break up families, to ruin their careers. It's wrong.
I have seen what happens with this school system. I know a person who cannot hold a job as he thinks that he knows everything and he should run the business two days after being hired in the lowest position. He now has two kids, can't keep a job and found that the easy life he had in high school was not the same when he went to college....and then dropped out.
People would have no problem keeping jobs if businesses would stop firing them. I graduated from a university and can't rent a job. Wages adjusted for inflation have plummeted in the last 30 years. Meanwhile housing costs and revolving credit have destroyed the savings and paychecks of tens of millions of people. Half of the working-age adults in this society are NOT employed in full-time regular permanent jobs.
I have decided that when I hire techs, I am going to ask them to write an essay, using pen and ink, giving the intructions on how to use a mouse for someone who is a computer beginner.
College used to do that. But then businesses ignore degrees. They are only used to disqualify people. They earn no respect.
Of course, I'll test for other things as well. Unfortunately, this may be a humbling experience for some applicants.
Someone with an English degree will probably write a five-page essay that is nominated for the Pulitzer Prize. Of course, they won't get hired because English degrees are worthless in business.
Let's see... English degrees worthless... nobody can communicate or read... hmmmm....
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So you're one of those web developers who has helped make that dim vision of a web where every website is just a container for a massive Flash mess a reality. Please, stop doing this. I don't have Flash. I never will. I want to look at your website, but I guess I nevel will do that, either.
We used to develop sites in a text editor. CSS, Javascript, HTML, DHTML, XML. We even had our own markup languages. The sites we produced were functional, but looked awful.
Macromedia Flash is what HTML/CSS wanted to be. Unfortunately HTML/CSS depends on a standard browser. There is no such thing as a standard browser. After years (oh, let's start in 1999) of having to re-design entire sites to get around the fact that it is impossible for any illustration to have an alpha channel unless it is a GIF, we finally said "forget this" and moved to Flash MX.
Now we can make sites that don't look awful, and it is irrelevant what browser is being used. We can use fonts. We can use PNG instead of GIF. We don't have to use Javascript, knowing with 100% certainty that it will fail on at least 1/3 of the browsers that visit our site. We don't have to test our site in 49 different browsers.
Flash MX works. Every time.
Well if I was hiring someone for a business I would give the nod to the business major.
Anything but that philosophy guy, right? Another education wasted.
If your major was in philosophy and you want a job in big business then you are not as smart as you think you are.
Absolutely incredible. Big business is so much smarter than everyone else, isn't it? Hiring managers can sit there and proclaim someone to have a lack of intellect based solely on the major they dedicated their education to. Absolutely incredible. And people actually have to ask why half the working-age adults are not employed full-time.
While I think education is very important it does not mean that you are a mensa member when you graduate.
The more businesses have that attitude the more education will suffer. The literacy rate will continue to drop and society will suffer as a result. People have no reason to go to college if the social contract is ignored.
Your parents and grandparents worked hard so you would not have to...
And they failed, just like I have. All of their efforts along with all of mine have been destroyed by office politics and greed.
Do I think business is always fair....no way! Is life always fair....nope.
Maybe this should be taught to people before they shovel their money into a worthless education.
After firing thousands, why not reduce prices? Sounds great. On to the salad course.
1. There will be a massively powerful race/class combination (Borg Shadow Priest) that can do 350 dps perpetually at extreme ranges against which no other class will have any defense. When the other classes complain, they will be told that PvP isn't balanced for 1 vs 1 (unless you're a Borg Shadow Priest) and that it's Rock Paper Scissors (unless you're a Borg Shadow Priest, which is a block of solid iron)
2. The system of rank will be exactly like World of Queuecraft's pvp system, meaning there will be one Admiral and 175,934 Ensigns on every server.
3. Experience will be the most fun. Since there are no murlocs to fight, grinding will be retuning the deflector dish 150,000 times a day.
Sounds like fun!
limitations of current versions of Internet Explorer and what Microsoft has already done to begin rectifying them
Just out of curiosity. How long has IE not supported PNG correctly? Best I can tell, Mozilla/Safari etc. all supported it out of the box.
I use PNG transparencies and I have the javascript code that fixes it for IE.
We just use Macromedia Flash MX. Solves ALL browser problems instantly. HTML/Javascript/CSS is awful for anything even remotely more advanced than paragraphs of text. Like, for example PNG files. Browser incompatibilities are a phenomenal waste of time.
If your degree is in Philosophy it will probably not help you in the business world.
Just made my point. Why wouldn't a degree in Philosophy help in the business world? Does business exist in some kind of alternate dimension where philosophy doesn't? Someone who completed a degree in Philosophy is probably brilliantly intelligent and someone who can analyze business problems from a variety of perspectives. They are probably also above-average writers and problem-solvers.
But it's not on the list of buzzword-majors so it doesn't count. Might as well have spent the tuition money on a cruise. Another education actively wasted by business on purpose.
I don't know what you really expect. No one owes you anything.
Fine. Then society shouldn't lie to people. I expect a career around which I can build a home and a family. That's what my parents and grandparents worked so hard for. They weren't cheated out of their hard work. My generation is the FIRST IN HISTORY that will do WORSE than the previous one.
Maybe you were part of that "every thing is owed to me" type of teaching I was talking about.
The teaching was rather simple: Go to school. Work hard. Get a good job. You'll succeed.
I did the first three, and I did them well. The fourth was a lie. If I succeed it will not be because I "got a good job." It will be because I did twice the work.
Require screened canidates and offers.
Screened candidates? Oh, so companies want to hire someone to disqualify people for them? Three cheers for capitalism.
I've been amazed at truly how desperate the companies I've worked at were to find not only _good_ people but the resume's of people who actually had the slightest bit of knowledge in the field
Wow this is getting old. "Everyone is a mouth-breathing moron. There are no qualified people upon this green spinning Earth." It's getting really REALLY old. Most companies ignore qualified people as a matter of policy. The rest they just lay off as fast as they can fill out the paperwork.
"We want brilliant self-starters with gleaming degrees and years upon years of high-level go-getter achievements. Once they are hired we expect them to become compliant slaves who will never question, never speak, never miss a chance to work a double-shift and never complain they are being paid about 1/3 what they are worth. When they are fired, we want them to blame themselves, acquire more skills, emerge from bankruptcy, slap on a spearmint smile, straighten their tie and start over at half pay."
Now let's all sing the company song.
They don't have any experience in the specific field (database driven websites), or even in the general technologies (when to use a left join in SQL)
But they have five years of Perl. So why can't they learn the specific field?
Anyone that can write Perl can learn when to use a left join in SQL. Employers should be training their employees. Not expecting them to materialize perfect at their desk the moment the job ad appears. Society figured that out centuries ago. Any programmer is qualified to build a database-driven web site.
1. Jobs that last longer than five weeks
2. Jobs that pay enough for food and electricity
That's a start.
Wow, you sound too much like the average Dilbert strip
Dilbert wouldn't be funny if it weren't true. Cubicle office politics is one of the most destructive forces in society right now. Loss of adequate reliable income is a direct cause of divorce, foreclosure, bankruptcy, depression, alcoholism and a variety of other societal problems. It's not funny. It's not a joke. It's the truth.
When did they start charging movie show snack prices for cold breakfast cereal?
Right about the time companies started mass layoffs as the all-purpose fix for anything that goes right or wrong. The corn to make a box of Corn Flakes costs oh, about twelve cents.
This seems like a really bad idea.. I've never heard a single podcast that I would pay for, even a few dollars a month.
Well, if the business model works, maybe there will be more podcasts. Anything that reduces commercial noise is fine with me.
Cue 500 comments griping about how people who invest massive effort and talent always ask to be paid for some reason.
In other news, Corn Flakes are now $5 a box.
Oh really, is that all it is?
Yep. In fact, the bank industry is so automated at this point that there is absolutely no need for any thought at all. There is not one ounce of humanity in the bank industry. If the numbers add up, the dollars are tall. If the numbers don't add up, the dollars are small. End of story.
Wow, then I just had an idea that could solve your little unemployment problem.
Oh good. Let's patronize unemployed people, shall we? That will surely help us all succeed.
You surely are competent enough to cash a check, right?
Is that a marketable skill?
Unless of course there is more to the world of banking than you realize
Yes. Don't forget the meetings, and the catered steamed lobster for lunch, and the expense accounts, and being paid to sit and talk about golf all day on the phone. I would love to see a list of the "marketable skills" required to make a six-figure salary at a bank. That would be entertaining.
People always argue those statistics. The reason they do is because it's really difficult to admit that business is fucking people over like that. But they are.
You say you went to a university
Only a claim, right? Sounds more and more like an interview. "So, you claim to have a degree..." and once I prove it they say "well, degrees aren't worth what they used to be worth..." and on it goes until they say "I'm very sorry but you're not qualified to paste bullshit into Powerpoint presentations." And resume #873 gets reverse-vaccuumed into the shitpipe.
sometimes two at once and never had a problem getting a job.
Must be nice to automatically get hired whenever you want. What would be better is if people had no problem keeping a job. My parents average length of employment was well over 20 years. Mine is just under 12 months.
My parents and grandparents all combined were laid off precisely once. I have been laid off, "downsized" or outright fired (usually with the rest of my group/team/division) ten times.
My generation is being fucked over on a scale that is beyond belief. It's wrong.
I would like to see the figures that back up your claim that half of working age adults are not employed full time.
Bureau of Labor Statistics. Half of all working age adults are either:
1. Temps
2. Part-time
3. Unemployed
4. Out of the work force entirely (read: unemployed for so long they have no more unemployment)
This is entirely consistent with what most people in their 20s and 30s can observe on a daily basis. People constantly worried about layoffs. Constantly being laid off, fired, downsized, being asked to work extra for no extra pay, taking pay cuts, training their replacements, etc. If people get an interview they don't have the "necessary skills." If people can find a job, they can't keep it. If they can keep it, it doesn't pay enough.
Of the half that are employed in full-time, regular, permanent jobs, most aren't being paid well enough to support themselves, much less a family and a mortgage.
As far a permanent employee goes, no one is guaranteed a job for life
The bank is guaranteed mortgage payments for 30 years. The landlord is guaranteed rent first of every month. Unfair. Sorry.
I guess I have no idea what your point was, then.
"You don't need an English degree to communicate well" sounds like something a boss or an interviewer would say.
It devalues the education that degree represents. Having an employee who dedicated their education to the study of the language required for any business to function should be a valuable member of that business, and they would be if business wasn't so single-mindedly obsessed with belittling, trivializing and ignoring the educations of their employees and job candidates.
Business has nothing but contempt for people in general. They have less contempt for "consumers" because consumers spend money. They actively loathe employees because employees cost money. The first autonomic reflex of any business today to any announcement, good or bad, is to announce layoffs: to destroy the lives and homes of thousands, to waste their educations, to break up families, to ruin their careers. It's wrong.
I have seen what happens with this school system. I know a person who cannot hold a job as he thinks that he knows everything and he should run the business two days after being hired in the lowest position. He now has two kids, can't keep a job and found that the easy life he had in high school was not the same when he went to college....and then dropped out.
People would have no problem keeping jobs if businesses would stop firing them. I graduated from a university and can't rent a job. Wages adjusted for inflation have plummeted in the last 30 years. Meanwhile housing costs and revolving credit have destroyed the savings and paychecks of tens of millions of people. Half of the working-age adults in this society are NOT employed in full-time regular permanent jobs.
Half.
You don't need an English degree to communicate well.
Therefore English degrees are worthless. See? I was right.
The worthlessness of 90% of higher education and the fact that half the population is functionally illiterate are results, not causes.
I do live in a high population area, rumored to have educated persons. Of course, I could be wrong. This is the USA, after all.
Yep. Everyone in the USA is a worthless clod. Even the ones who graduate with degrees.
And people ask me all the time "how come I never get calls back on the resumes I send out?"
I just chuckle. Then weep.
I have decided that when I hire techs, I am going to ask them to write an essay, using pen and ink, giving the intructions on how to use a mouse for someone who is a computer beginner.
College used to do that. But then businesses ignore degrees. They are only used to disqualify people. They earn no respect.
Of course, I'll test for other things as well. Unfortunately, this may be a humbling experience for some applicants.
Someone with an English degree will probably write a five-page essay that is nominated for the Pulitzer Prize. Of course, they won't get hired because English degrees are worthless in business.
Let's see... English degrees worthless... nobody can communicate or read... hmmmm....
Bank employees cash checks. Landlords cash checks.
Engineers build things.
So what does a priest do in raids? Chaincast flash heal.
Then they go pvp and *click click click click* 4500 damage. Fear. snare. healed. Win.
*Click click click click* 4500 damage. Fear. snare. healed. Win.
*Click click click click* 4500 damage. Fear. snare. healed. Win.
*Click click* stunned. Wait for stun to wear off. Fear. *Click Click* 4500 damage. Snare. healed. Win.
*Click click click click*
That's called "balance" I'm told.