A new driver does not add 2 days to delivery. If it's on the truck for delivery it will be dropped off that day. I've never had a package that was marked as out for delivery on the tracking site not arrive that day. I've had them come late in the day (after 6 pm) but never the next day.
If there was a delay, it occurred before arrival at your local distribution center.
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You would be wrong, at lest out here in the sticks. If they don't find your delivery address, they keep on going. They don't delay everybody else's packages looking for you. Instead, they send you an email or letter telling you to contact them. Just happened last week.
Really? Is slashdot so threatened that you get modded down for pointing out much more plausible causes to a non-statistical report than some big consipiracy with the USPS? Ironically, I purchase their shoes and I am not a theist, but I guess, that just because one relies on reason instead of superstition does not mean you can question faulty science and statistics if the intent is to mock others.
Or maybe it means exactly what they said, and you're just hurt that people point out how religiously twisted the US is.
Ironically, I am not a theist and I have a pair of their shoes. However, just because I share their view on religion doesn't mean I give them any more of a break on their statements than I would a theist. Since they did not have a statistically valid sample, you cannot extrapolate, with any validity, to the population, in this case the USPS. Doing so, makes their position no more tennable than the theist's position and to hold that it is is truly twisted.
The thing that pisses me and probably others off however is instead the likelyhood of wayland only apps which can't be run remotely like the X ones - then we may as well be on MS Windows. If you have one fixed software licence for an occasionally used application in an office and it works with X you can just run it on the display of whoever wants it, but if you have the 1980s idea of a dumb local framebuffer you have to reserve a machine for that application and do hotseating. It's stepping back to the single user non-networked idea that was worn out before MSDOS was badly cloned as a cut down single user version of CP/M. As for X bloat, it runs on Kindles FFS so that should show how stupid the bloat claim is. Would Wayland with gtk perform acceptably on something like a Kindle?
Would your Kindle allow you to run remote X sessions? You can't say the problem with Wayland is that you can't run remote X sessions and then use the Kindle a support for X as it doesn't let you run remote X session, either.
The thing about free desktops is that they are free to ignore Wayland and either stick with X, or go the Ubuntu way and do their own thing.
Yes, free desktops are free to ignore Wayland and do their own thing. On the other hand, they are at the mercy of the distributions, such as Ubuntu, RedHat, Suse (and all the rest). Ubuntu is dropping X and not using Wayland and going with their own in house Mir, so those free desktops, if they want to run on Ubuntu will need to work with Mir. If Redhat goes with Wayland, as it appears it will be doing, then those free desktops will need to work with Wayland.
Or, they can go the Gnome route in which the developers have stated that they are going to shift from X to Wayland. Any distro that wants Gnome will need to provide Wayland.
And let's not forget the not so free video drivers. It's hard enough to get them to even support linux, but now they will need to support X, Wayland, Mir and who knows what.
My money is on whichever display server graphic cards write drivers for will be the winner. Of course, they are going to base their decision on which display server is going to see them selling more graphic cards.
But, as you say, the free desktops are free to ignore Wayland and do their own thing, even if that means their software won't run on any modern distributions anymore.
Or maybe it means the atheist labeled packages got preferential treatment on the German side and since a cargo plane can only hold so many packages, they had priority loading and the regular packages took the next flight.
Or maybe it means that shipping packages overseas during the Christmas season can cause all sorts of delays.
Or maybe it means that that snow in the upper midwest led to delays on those Michigan packages.
Or maybe it means that one shouldn't try to apply statistical methods to non-statistical samples.
Or maybe it means that atheists make up shit to stir up their fanbase just as much as the religious zealots do.
is it an act of god if it's an act by a god warrior?
(technically I suppose it is, since everything is if you're into that kind of thinking).
makes those losing the packages pretty lousy christians though. USPS should run a sting on them.
Or maybe it is nothing as it wasn't a statistical sample nothing can be inferred from it. All the packages, were delivered in the guaranteed time frame from the postal service. It is more likely that these packages just suffered from normal delivery anomolies that occur with USPS, UPS and FedEx, nothing more or less.
As an example, I receive FedEx home deliveries all the time from one vendor within 3 days. This last shipment took 5, because there was a new driver and they didn't know the route as well and deliveries took longer.
So, before accusing christians, or any other religion of delaying atheist mail, it might be more prudent to look at weather conditions and other natural causes.
While there are many reasons experienced Ubuntu users dislike Ubuntu, for new users it often gets very high marks. The problem is that the desktop your friend installed, E17, is not the best for new users as it is a) not widely used (as compared to the major desktops) and b) definitely an acquired taste.
What your "friend" should have done is installed either straight Ubuntu with it's Unity interface, Xubuntu with the XFCE interface or Kubuntu with the KDE interface. They all have their pros and cons, but what they have in common is that they are all very well supported.
Coming from a Windows world, KDE or XFCE will appear most familiar, Unity, is Ubuntu's main emphasis now, and receives the most support and the most new consumer-like features. While I am not a fan of Unity because of how I use my computer, for new users, it does seem to work very well, with a minimum of trouble.
Without knowing what exactly is broken with your E17 install, I hesitate to suggest this, but one can always open a terminal and issue the command: sudo apt-get install XYZ-desktop Where XYZ=ubuntu (for unity) kubuntu for (KDE) or xubuntu for (XFCE). Assuming your networking is still working, that command may also fix whatever else is broken. But, and this is a big but, before deciding on KDE, Unity or XFCE (or even gnome-shell), I would search the internet for various opinions. They all have their pros and cons, just beware that people defend their choices like religious zealots.
The fact that MSNBC has more opinion shows than FoxNews is not the point. MSNBC doesn't format their programming so their opinion shows appear to be news shows. On the other hand, it is often very difficult to tell if one is watching a news program or a opinion show.
Put differently, nobody mistakes the content of the Today show for the Nightly News on NBC. Nor do people mistake Rachel Madow or the Ed Show on MSNBC for the nightly news. The said cannot be said for much of the programming on FoxNews that intentionaly packages their opinion programs in the format of a news broadcast.
Of course they are free to package their opinion shows however they want, but it can have serious consequences. When these consequences arise because of mistaken identity of the programming, they are quick to claim they are only enterainment shows, not news shows. But, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, and they are the ones making it walk and quack, it is hard to see how they can deny culpability. Of course anytime anybody complains, FoxNews just blames either the liberal media or anti-conservatives instead of actually looking at their own actions.
If you want politically unbiased news, at least as much as possible, you pretty much have to ignore the US sources as they are all owned by just a handful of people with their own agendas. It doesn't matter whether it is CNN, FoxNews, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBC. Same with the print media.
I forget who said it, but it is true, if you want to control a people, you control the information they receive. Of course that used to be applied to totalitarian governments. Today, it is the Rupert Murdochs of the world.
You left out trying to use your ebook when your wifi is down or you are away from a wifi signal. One could argue that is a flaw in the design of tablets, but that is besides the point. Most tablets don't allow for you to easily store what you want on them and easily retrieve it. At least not tablets from a company that's logo is related to the concept of original sin.
Think this through. Yes, ebooks are more convenient, at least for some, because of lack of space, etc. They are also usually cheaper and we are told because there is no printing and shipping cost involved. Right now, the competition for ebooks is printed books. When printed books go the way of the dinosaur, what will be in place to hold prices down? Yes, they will still be more convenient from a storage perspective, but not a cost perspective. What if your ebook textbook costs you $300 like your paper texbook and your ebook version expires at the end of the semester?
If you buy a paper version, you can always sell it to defray the cost. That is not the case with an ebook, at least not unless you break the DRM and violate the DMCA. So, yes, if you are willing to break the law, then just about anything can be more convenient than following the law. That is, unless you get caught. Those prison cells are probably a lot smaller than your dorm room and have even less storage space.
I understand the cost of flying a tourist there, but shouldn't they also be charged a portion of the cost of actually keeping them there? It cost a lot of money to develop the international space station. It costs a lot of money to maintain the international space station. And it costs a lot of money to operate the international space station. If I fly to Disneyland for a vacation, the flight is just one part of the cost of the trip. Likewise, to the ISS. For these space tourists, shouldn't they be paying for the full cost of their trip, particularly since almost all of it was funded by taxpayers of various countries?
Probably very few.. Android isn't really locked down, so, they've simply deemed them as unsuitable for their own store. The only difference now is that you need to install an APK (which is easy to do). Or, install another App store.
Or just refuse to use apps that keep popping up obnoxious ads all the time. Google wants developers to get paid via ads, because it lines Google's pocket, too. However, a developer can, and many do, charge a fair price for their app and there aren't any ads involved.
Personally, I believe developers should be paid for their work, so blocking ads deprive them of that. However, as the customer, if I don't like the payment method (ads), I can take my business elsewhere, and do. Developers respond to supply and demand like everybody else.
Im not sure its entirely accurate to call Peter the "first pope". The office as such did not exist, and the specific role of "pope" was never acknowledged by Peter or anyone else at that time.
If you want to be technical, there is no office or role of pope. There is the office of Bishop or Rome and it is accepted that Peter is/was the first Bishop of Rome. The title Pope is just a nickname and not an official title.
But, then Jesus said "Nobody knows the time or the place except for the Father." So they can't both be correct, unless they are in a box you haven't opened, yet.
This is a little off topic but I've had a somewhat relevant thought over the years: I think every death row inmate should be required to take a polygraph (with or without any drugs and blood tests you like) before they can be executed.
If the inmate passes the exam, there should be an automatic indefinite delay in execution, and the case should be re-opened. There are dozens of documented cases of wrongful executions, the people on death row usually (yes, I read "usually" somewhere) get public defenders who have been or will be disbarred, many are unable to help themselves intelligently, and some are intimidated into confessions. I'm not keen on execution to begin with, but if we're going to have it, a redundant test of guilt would be a very good thing.
Polygraphs are about as accurate at determining the truth as IQ tests are at determining intelligence. It is all very subjective and open to the interpretation of the polygrapher.
Seems to me the bastard didn't care much about the rights of anyone in the theater when when he kicked in the and started shooting people. Insane or not, public hanging ftw.
Doesn't matter, he still has rights. You take away his rights, you take away yours, too.
While size does matter, larger eye sockets does not automatically mean more of their brain was used for processing visual stimuli. For that to be valid, one would need to know what the size of the pupil and retina was, not the eye socket. It is quite possible that Neanderthals has more muscular eyes, just like they had more muscular bodies, but the actual visual portion of their eyes, the part that actually sees, was not significantly different than homo sapiens. Another explanation could also be that when Neanderthal developed, during the ice age, light levels were lower in the climates that they inhabited and the larger eyes were an adaptation, which again would not indicate more of their brain was used to process visual stimuli, but instead the larger eye was simply to enable more light gathering capability than their ancestors near the equator.
Without having an actual Neanderthal brains and eyes to examine, one cannot simply make this determination simply based on the size of the eye socket.
Apple did it and it seems to be working out just fine. They could have tried to use X but probably had the same reasons as Canonical, full control.
Sometimes the only way to get better results is to tear it all down and start over. You learn from the past but let go of the baggage.
Wasn't that the point of Wayland, to tear it all down and start over so as to get better results. You did get it right, though. Canonical did this because they want full control, they even say so. They developed Unity because they want full control. Canonical should have based Ubuntu on one of the BSDs because then they wouldn't have to worry about the troublesome "upstream" that they site as the reason for developing Mir.
Don't get me wrong, they are in their right to do with what they want with their product. However, they already had the reputation of taking more than the gave to the overall community and this just makes it more evident.
The word Ubuntu actually means "I am what I am because of who we all are." I think sometimes Canonical sometimes forgets that it is the "...who we all are" part of the definition that gives meaning to who they are.
There's a misrepresentation in your post. It is true that Voyager 1 is 17 light hours away and it has taken 35 years, yes, but that's not the point of Voyager 1. The mission of Voyager 1 wasn't to see how far it could get in 35 years. If we needed to get a craft 17 light hours from Earth in the fastest time possible it certainly wouldn't take 35 years, even with 1960s technology.
The Helios probes did set the record at 157,000 mph which is much faster than Voyager's 38,000 mph. However, Helios did not sustain that speed, while Voyager has. But even if a probe of sufficient size to do the job could sustain that speed, in 35 years, it would still be less than 3 light days away.
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A new driver does not add 2 days to delivery. If it's on the truck for delivery it will be dropped off that day. I've never had a package that was marked as out for delivery on the tracking site not arrive that day. I've had them come late in the day (after 6 pm) but never the next day.
If there was a delay, it occurred before arrival at your local distribution center.
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You would be wrong, at lest out here in the sticks. If they don't find your delivery address, they keep on going. They don't delay everybody else's packages looking for you. Instead, they send you an email or letter telling you to contact them. Just happened last week.
Really? Is slashdot so threatened that you get modded down for pointing out much more plausible causes to a non-statistical report than some big consipiracy with the USPS? Ironically, I purchase their shoes and I am not a theist, but I guess, that just because one relies on reason instead of superstition does not mean you can question faulty science and statistics if the intent is to mock others.
Or maybe it means exactly what they said, and you're just hurt that people point out how religiously twisted the US is.
Ironically, I am not a theist and I have a pair of their shoes. However, just because I share their view on religion doesn't mean I give them any more of a break on their statements than I would a theist. Since they did not have a statistically valid sample, you cannot extrapolate, with any validity, to the population, in this case the USPS. Doing so, makes their position no more tennable than the theist's position and to hold that it is is truly twisted.
Doesn't matter. GTK dev's (and GNOME dev's) can't be trusted. I'll use QT from here on.
Didn't QT announce support for Wayland, too?
WTF!?
GTK+ 3.8 has added support for Wayland, it hasn't dropped support for X11. You people need to quit bashing everything GTK/Gnome.
The thing that pisses me and probably others off however is instead the likelyhood of wayland only apps which can't be run remotely like the X ones - then we may as well be on MS Windows.
If you have one fixed software licence for an occasionally used application in an office and it works with X you can just run it on the display of whoever wants it, but if you have the 1980s idea of a dumb local framebuffer you have to reserve a machine for that application and do hotseating. It's stepping back to the single user non-networked idea that was worn out before MSDOS was badly cloned as a cut down single user version of CP/M.
As for X bloat, it runs on Kindles FFS so that should show how stupid the bloat claim is. Would Wayland with gtk perform acceptably on something like a Kindle?
Would your Kindle allow you to run remote X sessions? You can't say the problem with Wayland is that you can't run remote X sessions and then use the Kindle a support for X as it doesn't let you run remote X session, either.
The thing about free desktops is that they are free to ignore Wayland and either stick with X, or go the Ubuntu way and do their own thing.
Yes, free desktops are free to ignore Wayland and do their own thing. On the other hand, they are at the mercy of the distributions, such as Ubuntu, RedHat, Suse (and all the rest). Ubuntu is dropping X and not using Wayland and going with their own in house Mir, so those free desktops, if they want to run on Ubuntu will need to work with Mir. If Redhat goes with Wayland, as it appears it will be doing, then those free desktops will need to work with Wayland.
Or, they can go the Gnome route in which the developers have stated that they are going to shift from X to Wayland. Any distro that wants Gnome will need to provide Wayland.
And let's not forget the not so free video drivers. It's hard enough to get them to even support linux, but now they will need to support X, Wayland, Mir and who knows what.
My money is on whichever display server graphic cards write drivers for will be the winner. Of course, they are going to base their decision on which display server is going to see them selling more graphic cards.
But, as you say, the free desktops are free to ignore Wayland and do their own thing, even if that means their software won't run on any modern distributions anymore.
But doesn't Wayland run X, too?
Or maybe it means the atheist labeled packages got preferential treatment on the German side and since a cargo plane can only hold so many packages, they had priority loading and the regular packages took the next flight.
Or maybe it means that shipping packages overseas during the Christmas season can cause all sorts of delays.
Or maybe it means that that snow in the upper midwest led to delays on those Michigan packages.
Or maybe it means that one shouldn't try to apply statistical methods to non-statistical samples.
Or maybe it means that atheists make up shit to stir up their fanbase just as much as the religious zealots do.
is it an act of god if it's an act by a god warrior?
(technically I suppose it is, since everything is if you're into that kind of thinking).
makes those losing the packages pretty lousy christians though. USPS should run a sting on them.
Or maybe it is nothing as it wasn't a statistical sample nothing can be inferred from it. All the packages, were delivered in the guaranteed time frame from the postal service. It is more likely that these packages just suffered from normal delivery anomolies that occur with USPS, UPS and FedEx, nothing more or less.
As an example, I receive FedEx home deliveries all the time from one vendor within 3 days. This last shipment took 5, because there was a new driver and they didn't know the route as well and deliveries took longer.
So, before accusing christians, or any other religion of delaying atheist mail, it might be more prudent to look at weather conditions and other natural causes.
While there are many reasons experienced Ubuntu users dislike Ubuntu, for new users it often gets very high marks. The problem is that the desktop your friend installed, E17, is not the best for new users as it is a) not widely used (as compared to the major desktops) and b) definitely an acquired taste.
What your "friend" should have done is installed either straight Ubuntu with it's Unity interface, Xubuntu with the XFCE interface or Kubuntu with the KDE interface. They all have their pros and cons, but what they have in common is that they are all very well supported.
Coming from a Windows world, KDE or XFCE will appear most familiar, Unity, is Ubuntu's main emphasis now, and receives the most support and the most new consumer-like features. While I am not a fan of Unity because of how I use my computer, for new users, it does seem to work very well, with a minimum of trouble.
Without knowing what exactly is broken with your E17 install, I hesitate to suggest this, but one can always open a terminal and issue the command: sudo apt-get install XYZ-desktop
Where XYZ=ubuntu (for unity) kubuntu for (KDE) or xubuntu for (XFCE). Assuming your networking is still working, that command may also fix whatever else is broken. But, and this is a big but, before deciding on KDE, Unity or XFCE (or even gnome-shell), I would search the internet for various opinions. They all have their pros and cons, just beware that people defend their choices like religious zealots.
The fact that MSNBC has more opinion shows than FoxNews is not the point. MSNBC doesn't format their programming so their opinion shows appear to be news shows. On the other hand, it is often very difficult to tell if one is watching a news program or a opinion show.
Put differently, nobody mistakes the content of the Today show for the Nightly News on NBC. Nor do people mistake Rachel Madow or the Ed Show on MSNBC for the nightly news. The said cannot be said for much of the programming on FoxNews that intentionaly packages their opinion programs in the format of a news broadcast.
Of course they are free to package their opinion shows however they want, but it can have serious consequences. When these consequences arise because of mistaken identity of the programming, they are quick to claim they are only enterainment shows, not news shows. But, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, and they are the ones making it walk and quack, it is hard to see how they can deny culpability. Of course anytime anybody complains, FoxNews just blames either the liberal media or anti-conservatives instead of actually looking at their own actions.
If you want politically unbiased news, at least as much as possible, you pretty much have to ignore the US sources as they are all owned by just a handful of people with their own agendas. It doesn't matter whether it is CNN, FoxNews, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBC. Same with the print media.
I forget who said it, but it is true, if you want to control a people, you control the information they receive. Of course that used to be applied to totalitarian governments. Today, it is the Rupert Murdochs of the world.
Ironic name "Keep" since Google rarely "keeps" apps around anymore. No more iGoogle, reader, and others. How long before Keep isn't kept anymore?
You left out trying to use your ebook when your wifi is down or you are away from a wifi signal. One could argue that is a flaw in the design of tablets, but that is besides the point. Most tablets don't allow for you to easily store what you want on them and easily retrieve it. At least not tablets from a company that's logo is related to the concept of original sin.
Think this through. Yes, ebooks are more convenient, at least for some, because of lack of space, etc. They are also usually cheaper and we are told because there is no printing and shipping cost involved. Right now, the competition for ebooks is printed books. When printed books go the way of the dinosaur, what will be in place to hold prices down? Yes, they will still be more convenient from a storage perspective, but not a cost perspective. What if your ebook textbook costs you $300 like your paper texbook and your ebook version expires at the end of the semester?
If you buy a paper version, you can always sell it to defray the cost. That is not the case with an ebook, at least not unless you break the DRM and violate the DMCA. So, yes, if you are willing to break the law, then just about anything can be more convenient than following the law. That is, unless you get caught. Those prison cells are probably a lot smaller than your dorm room and have even less storage space.
I understand the cost of flying a tourist there, but shouldn't they also be charged a portion of the cost of actually keeping them there? It cost a lot of money to develop the international space station. It costs a lot of money to maintain the international space station. And it costs a lot of money to operate the international space station. If I fly to Disneyland for a vacation, the flight is just one part of the cost of the trip. Likewise, to the ISS. For these space tourists, shouldn't they be paying for the full cost of their trip, particularly since almost all of it was funded by taxpayers of various countries?
No, but small brains lead to posting duplicate stories: . http://science.slashdot.org/story/13/03/13/1247255/manga-girls-beware-extra-large-eyes-caused-neanderthals-demise [slashdot.org]
Probably very few.. Android isn't really locked down, so, they've simply deemed them as unsuitable for their own store. The only difference now is that you need to install an APK (which is easy to do). Or, install another App store.
Or just refuse to use apps that keep popping up obnoxious ads all the time. Google wants developers to get paid via ads, because it lines Google's pocket, too. However, a developer can, and many do, charge a fair price for their app and there aren't any ads involved.
Personally, I believe developers should be paid for their work, so blocking ads deprive them of that. However, as the customer, if I don't like the payment method (ads), I can take my business elsewhere, and do. Developers respond to supply and demand like everybody else.
Im not sure its entirely accurate to call Peter the "first pope". The office as such did not exist, and the specific role of "pope" was never acknowledged by Peter or anyone else at that time.
If you want to be technical, there is no office or role of pope. There is the office of Bishop or Rome and it is accepted that Peter is/was the first Bishop of Rome. The title Pope is just a nickname and not an official title.
Devotees of Ireland's 12th century Saint Malachy believe that he predicted back then that the new Pope will be the very last one:
http://www.irishcentral.com/roots/St-Malachy-predicted-Pope-Benedicts-successor-will-be-last-pope-190715001.html
But, then Jesus said "Nobody knows the time or the place except for the Father." So they can't both be correct, unless they are in a box you haven't opened, yet.
This is a little off topic but I've had a somewhat relevant thought over the years: I think every death row inmate should be required to take a polygraph (with or without any drugs and blood tests you like) before they can be executed.
If the inmate passes the exam, there should be an automatic indefinite delay in execution, and the case should be re-opened. There are dozens of documented cases of wrongful executions, the people on death row usually (yes, I read "usually" somewhere) get public defenders who have been or will be disbarred, many are unable to help themselves intelligently, and some are intimidated into confessions. I'm not keen on execution to begin with, but if we're going to have it, a redundant test of guilt would be a very good thing.
Polygraphs are about as accurate at determining the truth as IQ tests are at determining intelligence. It is all very subjective and open to the interpretation of the polygrapher.
Seems to me the bastard didn't care much about the rights of anyone in the theater when when he kicked in the and started shooting people. Insane or not, public hanging ftw.
Doesn't matter, he still has rights. You take away his rights, you take away yours, too.
While size does matter, larger eye sockets does not automatically mean more of their brain was used for processing visual stimuli. For that to be valid, one would need to know what the size of the pupil and retina was, not the eye socket. It is quite possible that Neanderthals has more muscular eyes, just like they had more muscular bodies, but the actual visual portion of their eyes, the part that actually sees, was not significantly different than homo sapiens. Another explanation could also be that when Neanderthal developed, during the ice age, light levels were lower in the climates that they inhabited and the larger eyes were an adaptation, which again would not indicate more of their brain was used to process visual stimuli, but instead the larger eye was simply to enable more light gathering capability than their ancestors near the equator.
Without having an actual Neanderthal brains and eyes to examine, one cannot simply make this determination simply based on the size of the eye socket.
Apple did it and it seems to be working out just fine. They could have tried to use X but probably had the same reasons as Canonical, full control.
Sometimes the only way to get better results is to tear it all down and start over. You learn from the past but let go of the baggage.
Wasn't that the point of Wayland, to tear it all down and start over so as to get better results. You did get it right, though. Canonical did this because they want full control, they even say so. They developed Unity because they want full control. Canonical should have based Ubuntu on one of the BSDs because then they wouldn't have to worry about the troublesome "upstream" that they site as the reason for developing Mir.
Don't get me wrong, they are in their right to do with what they want with their product. However, they already had the reputation of taking more than the gave to the overall community and this just makes it more evident.
The word Ubuntu actually means "I am what I am because of who we all are." I think sometimes Canonical sometimes forgets that it is the "...who we all are" part of the definition that gives meaning to who they are.
There's a misrepresentation in your post. It is true that Voyager 1 is 17 light hours away and it has taken 35 years, yes, but that's not the point of Voyager 1. The mission of Voyager 1 wasn't to see how far it could get in 35 years. If we needed to get a craft 17 light hours from Earth in the fastest time possible it certainly wouldn't take 35 years, even with 1960s technology.
The Helios probes did set the record at 157,000 mph which is much faster than Voyager's 38,000 mph. However, Helios did not sustain that speed, while Voyager has. But even if a probe of sufficient size to do the job could sustain that speed, in 35 years, it would still be less than 3 light days away.