"Consider using the MDI interface as an option instead of tabs. Visual Studio.Net has this option."
Hmm... Yeah, microsoft certainly wouldn't be familiar with something they wrote... Please explain.:/
There's already an MDI for IE, and Firefox, and iTunes, and everything else in Windows, it's called explorer.exe. The tab interface is a departure so you don't have to go chasing windows in the middle of web surfing.
If the spec sheets etc... are released, or can be bought, we can write software for the cars and market it. I look forward to the day when you can download a open source program for linux that you can plug into your GM or Ford or whatever and at least do stupid stuff like reseting those GOD FORSAKEN oil change indicators. 30$ just to get that set is pretty unreasonable.
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No one even looks at personal sites for PEOPLE... what's gonna come of dogs? I can't wait until they start up Doggy Blogs. Just think, that could concievably add around 20% to the internets junk like most normal blogs. Hurray!
I was working on an ATM at a local Casino and The one next to the one I was fixing it(replacing the modem... I don't work on atms in general) BSOD'd. I punched a key, and it just went to an NT4 desktop, kinda funny on the little like 3.5 inch screen.
Then the guy who had to stand there and watch as I worked on the ATM (you know, working around 40 grand and stuff like that) just opened it up, pulled out the keyboard that was just sitting in it's lower cabinet, and selected the atm software from the start menu... sorta scary when I realize what the money stuff's being run on haha.
What? All my Email Accounts, along with the accounts of most everyone I know recieve around 75-90% Spam.
Only my account that subscribes to bugtraq and some other security focus lists doesn't have such a ratio.
Anybody who subscribes to those lists (should be almost everybody B-)) Knows that that doesn't say mutch though, with 20 messages a day from some of those lists, it's crazy.
But I degress, one account I've had for around 4 years now would be broken due to spam if it wasn't for yahoo's nice filters, now I don't see a drop of it. But my 'Bulk Mail' folder will fill up my 4meg account often in about a week, and I only maintain about 100-200k of saved stuff in there. Oh well, I did a little research for other people paying attention to their ammounts of spam (maybe blatent karma whoring, but who cares hehe):
Other Interesting stuff:
MyRealBox - Test bed for Novells Mail server development, checkout the license agreement to get a free mail box, seriously, apparently you must pay $10 for every piece of spam you recieve in the box... Please correct me if you see it differently. The Cost of Spam
I checked out the STEAL lab setup and it sounds incredible, but alot of that stuff seems a tad unnecessary, especially if your talking about less than 20 students.
My ideal lab would consist of as few specialized systems/peices of equiptment as possible, and a surplus of all purpose, say P4 or equivalent AMD boxes.
For example, I wouldn't consider a lab such as you're describing without a few cisco routers or network appliances. You may also want some specialized hardware for a specail sun server or Unix box. All in all though, I say keep the majority where it will likely be in the real world, on PC's (let me know if you disagree).
Now, I'm a particular fan of apps like drive image pro and using drive images liberally. So you may wish to take this with a grain of salt, but I'm all for the practice of maintaining HDD images of different OS's you can switch out on your workstations as the lessons progress. You can have your (perfectly licenced) winXP images, setup, one for each PC, so that Problem XP has won't be an issue. You can do the same with linux and any other operating systems you like.
The other advantage to this, specifically having several extra machines is that you can have as few or as many servers as you need, to give the effect, perhaps with the help of VMware, of a target network. On the flip side, you could give the students the extra workstations and give them the chance to use multiple attack vectors for specialized attacks.
Another not-so related idea would be to have a dedicated network trafic recording computer, just for piece of mind that every bit of activity will be recorded if nothing else.
In closing, I think the key, IMHO, is that you maintain maxiumum flexibility in such a lab, so you can simulate virtually any modern network and thus any relavant environment for studies in the area. I've seen lot's of success with random amenities like a projector and nice large screen. I'll give the STEAL labs that, but alot can be said for good, standard PC's running what your students will likely be using in thier future proffesions. A lab with say, 20 PC's that can, within an hour or two, with one tech, be changed to either
20 WinXP machines or
20 RedHat 9 boxes
Or even a network of:
1 FreeBSD webserver
2 RH Routers 1 'internal' XP workstation
1 'internal target' FreeBSD MySQL server
15 RH or XP 'attack' workstations
IBM is introducing their lates server line, the IBM ButterKnife series, featuring a fully hot swappable cluster of up to 200 MS Pocket PC's. On good days you'll get the output of a screaming 386!
Considering the consequences of a little algea or whatever in tubes so small, I'm sure they'll provide the coolant(likely non-water) and perhaps even an on board Closed coolant system.
Considering the size of 3rd party coolants shown on site's like Tweak3d.net I wouldn't be suprised at all if the setups didn't look like some of ThermalTakes larger models. If most of the tubing is kept in the in-die, and the motor is solid state (not sure what size we're talking about) then I'd envision something that would leak about as mutch as an air cooled system. hehe.
Wait a sec, the standing copywrite licenses are just fine, the problem is everybody following them, no?
Well if you emphasize everything, it will still be the same. Meaning, if everything get's a shiny new license, what will have changed? The licenses are just relying on you being a good good citizens or whatever anyway. What will change if everything forces the crud in your face when you open it's package. Your taught what copyrights mean in grade school, and will treat them as you will.
Perhaps it would serve only as a tool in the copywrite holders legal arsenal, which wouldn't be intirely a bad thing. So long as you follow the rules... slashdotters beware??? hehe
I'd certainly prefer it over one of those little hand held talking things like you can get at the National Gallery in DC.
But what was wrong with paper? guess their just trying to save a few trees.:\
I've seen PDA's used for guides for conferences, seminars etc.. and they always seem like overkill. But I like the techy stuff as mutch as the next guy and I've been looking for a reason to use those little dinks so bring on the toys hehe. [stupid] Wonder if the'll be supported at the next metallica concert 'round here [/stupid]
Now, If you do not imediately grant me commercial control of all unused channel numbers on cable, all ungranted patents and all unused snazzy product names, the world will explode.
This is certainly a question of your motive, and how mutch your willing to lose. I would first recommend legal council on the subject, but I doubt you've got the money lying around or a willingness to jump through hoops for a messed up system.
I would recommend exactly that, to preserve my academic and proffesional future. Yeah, it's a bit cynical, but how mutch does this system that puts such fear in otherwise ethical persons deserve? Unless you're out to make a statement and/or make a name for yourself real quick, I say pretend it never happened. No harm will come of it.
Years from now you'll look back on this and think, 'Yeah, I came to a fork in the road of life, and took the safe way out'. If your sure you can life with that; if you value a secure future down the straight and narrow; if you'd like to see people get messed up all over the country when the exploit inevitably becomes public and just sit back and watch, immune and unassailable (you shredded the code) *demonic laugh*, then this should be you're path.
The company hasn't already fixed it have they? Does the school keep up, or are they on one of those pay monthly for all updates things?
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If the spec sheets etc... are released, or can be bought, we can write software for the cars and market it. I look forward to the day when you can download a open source program for linux that you can plug into your GM or Ford or whatever and at least do stupid stuff like reseting those GOD FORSAKEN oil change indicators. 30$ just to get that set is pretty unreasonable.
No one even looks at personal sites for PEOPLE... what's gonna come of dogs? I can't wait until they start up Doggy Blogs. Just think, that could concievably add around 20% to the internets junk like most normal blogs. Hurray!
I was working on an ATM at a local Casino and The one next to the one I was fixing it(replacing the modem... I don't work on atms in general) BSOD'd. I punched a key, and it just went to an NT4 desktop, kinda funny on the little like 3.5 inch screen.
Then the guy who had to stand there and watch as I worked on the ATM (you know, working around 40 grand and stuff like that) just opened it up, pulled out the keyboard that was just sitting in it's lower cabinet, and selected the atm software from the start menu... sorta scary when I realize what the money stuff's being run on haha.
What? All my Email Accounts, along with the accounts of most everyone I know recieve around 75-90% Spam.
Only my account that subscribes to bugtraq and some other security focus lists doesn't have such a ratio.
Anybody who subscribes to those lists (should be almost everybody B-)) Knows that that doesn't say mutch though, with 20 messages a day from some of those lists, it's crazy.
But I degress, one account I've had for around 4 years now would be broken due to spam if it wasn't for yahoo's nice filters, now I don't see a drop of it. But my 'Bulk Mail' folder will fill up my 4meg account often in about a week, and I only maintain about 100-200k of saved stuff in there. Oh well, I did a little research for other people paying attention to their ammounts of spam (maybe blatent karma whoring, but who cares hehe):
spamfryer?
Spam Cop
Why spam is bad - Apparently a personal spam site
HiWaay - Alabama ISP, keeping records and real time graphs.
Other Interesting stuff:
MyRealBox - Test bed for Novells Mail server development, checkout the license agreement to get a free mail box, seriously, apparently you must pay $10 for every piece of spam you recieve in the box... Please correct me if you see it differently.
The Cost of Spam
sites from google and SpamCon.
I checked out the STEAL lab setup and it sounds incredible, but alot of that stuff seems a tad unnecessary, especially if your talking about less than 20 students.
My ideal lab would consist of as few specialized systems/peices of equiptment as possible, and a surplus of all purpose, say P4 or equivalent AMD boxes.
For example, I wouldn't consider a lab such as you're describing without a few cisco routers or network appliances. You may also want some specialized hardware for a specail sun server or Unix box. All in all though, I say keep the majority where it will likely be in the real world, on PC's (let me know if you disagree).
Now, I'm a particular fan of apps like drive image pro and using drive images liberally. So you may wish to take this with a grain of salt, but I'm all for the practice of maintaining HDD images of different OS's you can switch out on your workstations as the lessons progress. You can have your (perfectly licenced) winXP images, setup, one for each PC, so that Problem XP has won't be an issue. You can do the same with linux and any other operating systems you like.
The other advantage to this, specifically having several extra machines is that you can have as few or as many servers as you need, to give the effect, perhaps with the help of VMware, of a target network. On the flip side, you could give the students the extra workstations and give them the chance to use multiple attack vectors for specialized attacks.
Another not-so related idea would be to have a dedicated network trafic recording computer, just for piece of mind that every bit of activity will be recorded if nothing else.
In closing, I think the key, IMHO, is that you maintain maxiumum flexibility in such a lab, so you can simulate virtually any modern network and thus any relavant environment for studies in the area. I've seen lot's of success with random amenities like a projector and nice large screen. I'll give the STEAL labs that, but alot can be said for good, standard PC's running what your students will likely be using in thier future proffesions. A lab with say, 20 PC's that can, within an hour or two, with one tech, be changed to either
20 WinXP machines or
20 RedHat 9 boxes
Or even a network of:
1 FreeBSD webserver
2 RH Routers 1 'internal' XP workstation
1 'internal target' FreeBSD MySQL server
15 RH or XP 'attack' workstations
Is a great thing in my book.
IBM is introducing their lates server line, the IBM ButterKnife series, featuring a fully hot swappable cluster of up to 200 MS Pocket PC's. On good days you'll get the output of a screaming 386!
Considering the consequences of a little algea or whatever in tubes so small, I'm sure they'll provide the coolant(likely non-water) and perhaps even an on board Closed coolant system.
Considering the size of 3rd party coolants shown on site's like Tweak3d.net I wouldn't be suprised at all if the setups didn't look like some of ThermalTakes larger models.
If most of the tubing is kept in the in-die, and the motor is solid state (not sure what size we're talking about) then I'd envision something that would leak about as mutch as an air cooled system. hehe.
Seems linux alread thought of that: setleds +s That'll turn it on.
Wait a sec, the standing copywrite licenses are just fine, the problem is everybody following them, no?
Well if you emphasize everything, it will still be the same. Meaning, if everything get's a shiny new license, what will have changed? The licenses are just relying on you being a good good citizens or whatever anyway. What will change if everything forces the crud in your face when you open it's package. Your taught what copyrights mean in grade school, and will treat them as you will.
Perhaps it would serve only as a tool in the copywrite holders legal arsenal, which wouldn't be intirely a bad thing. So long as you follow the rules... slashdotters beware??? hehe
I'd certainly prefer it over one of those little hand held talking things like you can get at the National Gallery in DC. :\
But what was wrong with paper? guess their just trying to save a few trees.
I've seen PDA's used for guides for conferences, seminars etc.. and they always seem like overkill. But I like the techy stuff as mutch as the next guy and I've been looking for a reason to use those little dinks so bring on the toys hehe.
[stupid]
Wonder if the'll be supported at the next metallica concert 'round here
[/stupid]
Indeed, all unused names Must belong to verisign!
Now, If you do not imediately grant me commercial control of all unused channel numbers on cable, all ungranted patents and all unused snazzy product names, the world will explode.
This is certainly a question of your motive, and how mutch your willing to lose. I would first recommend legal council on the subject, but I doubt you've got the money lying around or a willingness to jump through hoops for a messed up system. I would recommend exactly that, to preserve my academic and proffesional future. Yeah, it's a bit cynical, but how mutch does this system that puts such fear in otherwise ethical persons deserve? Unless you're out to make a statement and/or make a name for yourself real quick, I say pretend it never happened. No harm will come of it. Years from now you'll look back on this and think, 'Yeah, I came to a fork in the road of life, and took the safe way out'. If your sure you can life with that; if you value a secure future down the straight and narrow; if you'd like to see people get messed up all over the country when the exploit inevitably becomes public and just sit back and watch, immune and unassailable (you shredded the code) *demonic laugh*, then this should be you're path. The company hasn't already fixed it have they? Does the school keep up, or are they on one of those pay monthly for all updates things?