That's what the parent favors. That's what I favor. But my question aims at the word "availability" in the second paragraph of TFA.
The first sentence of TFA says that it is a sale regulation. No problem with that, agree wholeheartedly. If a kid can't get in to see Rambo by himself, he shouldn't be able to buy a game to play Rambo by himself. Ditto booze, alcohol, pr0n.
But the second paragraph of TFA contains the word "availability", which could imply "making the game available to minors is against this law". And, by buying it and giving it to the kid, is exactly what one would be doing. If such wording gets passed into law, what's to stop some zealot "think of the children" extremist lawyer from suing/accusing/pressing charges/whatever applies because I "made available a mature-content game to a minor"?
That's why "availability" is the title of this fucking thread, but, to quote MBraynard, "your IQ isn't smart enough to see it".
Jesus, for someone who is soooo concerned about your rights as a parent, you don't even RTFA?
RTFA? On Slashdot? You're kidding, right?;)
On a more serious note, I asked the question because of the word "availability". From the very second paragraph:
Blagojevich's proposed legislation would prohibit the distribution, sale, rental and availability (emphasis mine) of mature video games to children younger than 18.
Illegal to sell and rent, I have no problem with that, same as with alcohol and cigarrettes.
That's when the "IF" comes into action: "IF" making the game available to minors is a crime, is giving a child a gift of a mature-rated game a crime? IF the answer to that is yes, THEN the parent's will is bypassed.
But you miss the point. My question is: "If making a mature-rated video game available to a minor is a crime, is buying my under-18 son a mature-rated video game against the law, even if as his parent I decide that he is mature enough to understand that it is a game?".
If the answer is yes, the law doesn't empower me, it takes away from me the right to decide what is fit for my children and what is not. It means the gov't meddling in my child-raising, which I wouldn't appreciate.
A parent can't decide that his/her under-18 child is fit to drink wine/beer at a dinner without breaking the law (at least over here).
What a load of bollocks... if such laws had been enforced when I was a kid, I might never gotten a taste for wine... the horror! I used to ask my father why he drank wine, so he told me he liked the taste. So I wanted to try, and he gave me a couple sips worth in my glass. Loved that, so it became almost tradition for me to ask for a little wine on weekend lunches. Those are the memories... I have the (dubious reputation creating-) claim that the word "Beaujolais" evokes childhood memories:)
If I, as a parent, decide that my under-18 child is fit to play the game, buy it (since the store can't sell it or rent it to him/her) and give it to him/her, am I breaking the law?
I would have put Outcast up there with Unreal Tournament, put that stupid leg sweep insta kill move killed my enthusiasm for that.
Didn't you ever patch your game? The ridiculous backspin sweeping stroke(*) was crippled (as in "damage reduced to reasonable levels") in higher versions, much to the chagrin of a couple of people I know who used to run backwards hoping to land such shot in the middle of crowded rooms while LAN-partying. Lots of moves/force powers were modified during the patch series...
(*) I assume you are talking about that move, since that's the one I hated the most when playing with my friends:)
I don't know what this guy did but he is thoroughly mistaken.
I'd bet a beer that the new mail server installed at his institute includes some form of spam protection. My university's mail system has gone down for two days, and I still get one or two hundred spam mails a day. (of course, only one or two make it through the spam filters:)
And no Atari 800XL...
Rallyspeed, Spy vs. Spy, River Raid... my mother enforcing strict 1-hour turns for each of us (me and my two brothers)... two sided 5.25" floppies... powering on while holding "option"... those were the days!
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Why do you care that someone is so obsessed with karma that he/she does a copy/paste of the article text?
To get a subpoena you need to send an application to a judge specifying precisely why you want it and what you want, then convince the judge to say "yes". The long part of this is handing the paper to the Judge and convincing him/her to sign it.
Unless, of course, you are the RIAA and own a funky Subpoena-A-Matic law.
Read the rest here and here.
But the second paragraph of TFA contains the word "availability", which could imply "making the game available to minors is against this law". And, by buying it and giving it to the kid, is exactly what one would be doing. If such wording gets passed into law, what's to stop some zealot "think of the children" extremist lawyer from suing/accusing/pressing charges/whatever applies because I "made available a mature-content game to a minor"?
That's why "availability" is the title of this fucking thread, but, to quote MBraynard, "your IQ isn't smart enough to see it".
RTFA? On Slashdot? You're kidding, right? ;)
On a more serious note, I asked the question because of the word "availability". From the very second paragraph:
Blagojevich's proposed legislation would prohibit the distribution, sale, rental and availability (emphasis mine) of mature video games to children younger than 18.
Illegal to sell and rent, I have no problem with that, same as with alcohol and cigarrettes.
That's when the "IF" comes into action: "IF" making the game available to minors is a crime, is giving a child a gift of a mature-rated game a crime? IF the answer to that is yes, THEN the parent's will is bypassed.
If the answer is yes, the law doesn't empower me, it takes away from me the right to decide what is fit for my children and what is not. It means the gov't meddling in my child-raising, which I wouldn't appreciate.
Yes, but after I bought it I made it available to underaged kids. That's why my post is titled "availability".
(already thinking about kids, eh?)
Not this year, not the next... maybe 2006 or 2007? :)
What a load of bollocks... if such laws had been enforced when I was a kid, I might never gotten a taste for wine... the horror! I used to ask my father why he drank wine, so he told me he liked the taste. So I wanted to try, and he gave me a couple sips worth in my glass. Loved that, so it became almost tradition for me to ask for a little wine on weekend lunches. Those are the memories... I have the (dubious reputation creating-) claim that the word "Beaujolais" evokes childhood memories :)
If I, as a parent, decide that my under-18 child is fit to play the game, buy it (since the store can't sell it or rent it to him/her) and give it to him/her, am I breaking the law?
Didn't you ever patch your game? The ridiculous backspin sweeping stroke(*) was crippled (as in "damage reduced to reasonable levels") in higher versions, much to the chagrin of a couple of people I know who used to run backwards hoping to land such shot in the middle of crowded rooms while LAN-partying. Lots of moves/force powers were modified during the patch series...
(*) I assume you are talking about that move, since that's the one I hated the most when playing with my friends :)
Me neither.
"www.blow.jobs"
I'd bet a beer that the new mail server installed at his institute includes some form of spam protection. My university's mail system has gone down for two days, and I still get one or two hundred spam mails a day. (of course, only one or two make it through the spam filters :)
I mean, in Soviet Russia efforts combine malware authors, for chrissake!
...you insensitive clod!
And no Atari 800XL... Rallyspeed, Spy vs. Spy, River Raid... my mother enforcing strict 1-hour turns for each of us (me and my two brothers)... two sided 5.25" floppies... powering on while holding "option"... those were the days!
Why do you care that someone is so obsessed with karma that he/she does a copy/paste of the article text?
Shell/Facade company.
Got any handy links? I'd sure appreciate the help... it's my first windows install that lived more than a year :D
I mean, it's been done right for so many years, why come off half-baked like that? :)
(btw, I'll try what you suggested. Thanks!)
Good luck trying to empty "C:\documents and settings" and then mounting a different partition there.
In Korea, dying a nice, peaceful death is only for the elderly.
(Runs while dodging flying objects thrown by the angry mob)
If anyone needs me, I'll be in the bathroom poking out my eyes with a rusty fork...
Somehow, this sinfest comic comes to mind when thinking about the licensing contract with SCO and the "your money back" concept...
It's "In Soviet Korea, elderly racists comment you!".
Unless, of course, you are the RIAA and own a funky Subpoena-A-Matic law.
Of course not. It's for Ricers.
(Go ahead, got karma to burn. Or better yet, laugh instead. Makes you healthier)