But what if I don't want the government to protect me?
If I want to pollute my body with cigarettes, booze, caffeine, fat, and sugars... I should be able to... (mmmmm... Irish coffee...)
If I want to allow anyone access to my computer, I should be able to. If people can't understand what they're doing, why is it my job to protect them? (Barring when they're doing something that harms me in some way.)
We don't need more laws... we need smarter people...
Nephilium
Age does not always bring wisdom, but it does lend perspective. -- Jubal Harshaw in Stranger in a Strange Land
It all depends on whom it's being enforced *against*... a local community by me forced through a draconian curfew about ten years ago... basically no one under 18 was allowed to be out of their homes after 10:30 PM... the police hated it and fought against it... it got passed and the first person arrested for it was the mayor's daughter... coming home from work...
The curfew lasted six months after that I think...
So if you are going to go through harsh enforcement the key is to go after the government members families... I'm sure at least some of them have teenage kids downloading music, TV shows, and movies...
Nephilium
In a society in which it is a mortal offense to be different from your neighbors your only escape is never to let them find out. -- Maureen Johnson in To Sail Beyond the Sunset
Just a quick point here... it's not an article, it's an Op-Ed piece... written by a conservative... it's not going to be unbiased...
Nephilium
I do know that, if a man acquires too much money, presently it owns him instead of his owning it. -- Joan Eunice Branca in I Will Fear No Evil
I had something similar happen when I was stuck in the trenches working retail...
1) Had a woman who bought a Toshiba laptop, back before all of the bays were hot-swappable, then brought it back because the floppy drive was broken... I get called up to look at it... ask for the manual... open it up... and see that it needs a BIOS change to detect... make the change... it detects... [Mind you... I would blame this on Toshiba... except the same women brought back three laptops in a row... This was the one with an actual problem]
2) Had someone who said there laptop display "just broke", with a beautiful star going across the screen... it turns out he had set it on his bedroom floor... got up at night... and stepped on it...
3) Someone called up saying that we had sold her a black and white monitor... (This was in the late 90's)... Got real confused until I asked her what was on the screen... It was the test pattern... She had never looked at the big shiny piece of paper that says how to set up the machine... the thing you see right when you open the box... and had never turned the computer on...
Ahhh... it's so much better now that I'm not working retail... hold on... I've got someone asking me to explain the error message they just cleared off of the screen without writing down any details...
Nephilium
But, Father, we are already married -- for nearly a century now. -- Deety Burroughs Carter in The Number of the Beast
I'm with you on this... but the defense (don't worry... I'm going to boil my keyboard after typing this...) is that at the bottom of those pop-ups... in about a 6 or 8 point font, it says that this pop-up has no affiliation with the site you are visiting... Most people either close the pop-ups without looking, and hate the company's page they were on, or don't look at that little grey bar across the bottom...
I've had to explain to countless people that our company website *doesn't* have pop-ups, and if they're getting them... they've got spy-ware...
Nephilium
--Think for yourself. Know what you're doing. Question authority. -- Timothy Leary
But the "Average" user also doesn't go out and buy the latest MS Operating System... they use whatever came on their machine, at least until the machine dies, then they go out and buy a new one... with the new OS on it... Why do you think Windows 95 is still floating around out there... let alone Windows 98...
I would also add that not only have a Mac user and a PC user review it, but also add in different levels of hardware. Is this distro going to work on my four year old eMachine? Is this distro going to have problems with this cheap knock off motherboard I got two years ago? Is this distro going to work with my on board RAID controller?
Not to mention different video cards, sound cards, network cards, etc.
Ran into this same problem at my company... Tested two different things out:
Mailwasher - Not a challenge/response like you asked for, but allows you to send bounces back to spam, and delete them off of the server before you donwload them. Can tie into SpamHaus and such.
ChoiceMail - Challenge response, both single user and enterprise are available. Single user sits on local machine, enterprise ties into Exchange. Can quickly add anyone in your Outlook contact list to the whitelist, and anyone you send an e-mail to can be set to be whitelisted. The challenge message can be customized. Biggest problem with the bounce (at least in my testing) is that the challenge gets rated as spam by my filters. I'm sure if the challenge was tuned up it wouldn't be that big of a problem. And they have a free trial so you can test it for 14 days
Nephilium
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I know I can't run Win98 on my machine... I've got a gig of RAM... and Windows 98 can't support that much memory. Nothing but BSOD errors over and over...
Ummm... how is a computer password any different then a PIN number for most users? How many regular users do you know who use IE (or even Mozilla/FireFox) to save all of their passwords? Including their on-line banking usernames and passwords... all of their credit card usernames and passwords... and all of the sites that they trusted with their credit card information...
And dealing with the fingerprint issue...
The Reg just had a write up about it...
Well... I think one of the biggest problems with a single location running LAN's all day is that you can find LAN parties almost anywhere running on weekends that just require you to carry your machine over... Either here or here
I know me and my friends get together about twice a month... with the only costs being the games, and facing the bright shiny day moon while lugging around computers...
Nephilium...
The truth may be out there, but lies are inside your head. -- (Terry Pratchett, Hogfather)
I always thought that the quote was:
"Maybe Jesus was right when he said that the meek shall inherit the earth -- but they inherit very small plots, about six feet by three."
--Robert A. Heinlein, as Lazarus Long
But the point I'm trying to make is that I'm NOT handing out anything. I'm making it available for someone to download. If someone has a license for a Microsoft product, has the license, but loses the disk, I can hand them a copy of the disc. It's ok for a friend of mine to borrow books of mine, if he copies the book, is it my fault for letting him borrow it?
The problem I'm seeing is that there are times it is legal to download an MP3 down, even a copyrighted one. Example: I buy a CD last night, I get into the office and want to listen to it. I left the CD at home, I hop onto LimeWire and download the CD. What copyright violation did I commit?
I thought it wasn't the sharing that was illegal, but the downloading of material you don't have rights to. This looks like it's just going to fall under safe harbor...
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But what if I don't want the government to protect me?
If I want to pollute my body with cigarettes, booze, caffeine, fat, and sugars... I should be able to... (mmmmm... Irish coffee...)
If I want to allow anyone access to my computer, I should be able to. If people can't understand what they're doing, why is it my job to protect them? (Barring when they're doing something that harms me in some way.)
We don't need more laws... we need smarter people...
Nephilium
Age does not always bring wisdom, but it does lend perspective. -- Jubal Harshaw in Stranger in a Strange Land
It all depends on whom it's being enforced *against*... a local community by me forced through a draconian curfew about ten years ago... basically no one under 18 was allowed to be out of their homes after 10:30 PM... the police hated it and fought against it... it got passed and the first person arrested for it was the mayor's daughter... coming home from work...
The curfew lasted six months after that I think...
So if you are going to go through harsh enforcement the key is to go after the government members families... I'm sure at least some of them have teenage kids downloading music, TV shows, and movies...
Nephilium
In a society in which it is a mortal offense to be different from your neighbors your only escape is never to let them find out. -- Maureen Johnson in To Sail Beyond the Sunset
Just a quick point here... it's not an article, it's an Op-Ed piece... written by a conservative... it's not going to be unbiased...
Nephilium
I do know that, if a man acquires too much money, presently it owns him instead of his owning it. -- Joan Eunice Branca in I Will Fear No Evil
I had something similar happen when I was stuck in the trenches working retail...
1) Had a woman who bought a Toshiba laptop, back before all of the bays were hot-swappable, then brought it back because the floppy drive was broken... I get called up to look at it... ask for the manual... open it up... and see that it needs a BIOS change to detect... make the change... it detects... [Mind you... I would blame this on Toshiba... except the same women brought back three laptops in a row... This was the one with an actual problem]
2) Had someone who said there laptop display "just broke", with a beautiful star going across the screen... it turns out he had set it on his bedroom floor... got up at night... and stepped on it...
3) Someone called up saying that we had sold her a black and white monitor... (This was in the late 90's)... Got real confused until I asked her what was on the screen... It was the test pattern... She had never looked at the big shiny piece of paper that says how to set up the machine... the thing you see right when you open the box... and had never turned the computer on...
Ahhh... it's so much better now that I'm not working retail... hold on... I've got someone asking me to explain the error message they just cleared off of the screen without writing down any details...
Nephilium
But, Father, we are already married -- for nearly a century now. -- Deety Burroughs Carter in The Number of the Beast
I'm with you on this... but the defense (don't worry... I'm going to boil my keyboard after typing this...) is that at the bottom of those pop-ups... in about a 6 or 8 point font, it says that this pop-up has no affiliation with the site you are visiting... Most people either close the pop-ups without looking, and hate the company's page they were on, or don't look at that little grey bar across the bottom...
I've had to explain to countless people that our company website *doesn't* have pop-ups, and if they're getting them... they've got spy-ware...
Nephilium
--Think for yourself. Know what you're doing. Question authority. -- Timothy Leary
But the "Average" user also doesn't go out and buy the latest MS Operating System... they use whatever came on their machine, at least until the machine dies, then they go out and buy a new one... with the new OS on it... Why do you think Windows 95 is still floating around out there... let alone Windows 98...
Nephilium
I would also add that not only have a Mac user and a PC user review it, but also add in different levels of hardware. Is this distro going to work on my four year old eMachine? Is this distro going to have problems with this cheap knock off motherboard I got two years ago? Is this distro going to work with my on board RAID controller?
Not to mention different video cards, sound cards, network cards, etc.
Nephilium
But don't forget about the rebuttal by Kurtz...
Nephilium
Ran into this same problem at my company... Tested two different things out:
Mailwasher - Not a challenge/response like you asked for, but allows you to send bounces back to spam, and delete them off of the server before you donwload them. Can tie into SpamHaus and such.
ChoiceMail - Challenge response, both single user and enterprise are available. Single user sits on local machine, enterprise ties into Exchange. Can quickly add anyone in your Outlook contact list to the whitelist, and anyone you send an e-mail to can be set to be whitelisted. The challenge message can be customized. Biggest problem with the bounce (at least in my testing) is that the challenge gets rated as spam by my filters. I'm sure if the challenge was tuned up it wouldn't be that big of a problem. And they have a free trial so you can test it for 14 days
Nephilium
I know I can't run Win98 on my machine... I've got a gig of RAM... and Windows 98 can't support that much memory. Nothing but BSOD errors over and over...
Nephilium
Ummm... how is a computer password any different then a PIN number for most users? How many regular users do you know who use IE (or even Mozilla/FireFox) to save all of their passwords? Including their on-line banking usernames and passwords... all of their credit card usernames and passwords... and all of the sites that they trusted with their credit card information...
And dealing with the fingerprint issue... The Reg just had a write up about it...
Nephilium
Well... I think one of the biggest problems with a single location running LAN's all day is that you can find LAN parties almost anywhere running on weekends that just require you to carry your machine over... Either here or here
I know me and my friends get together about twice a month... with the only costs being the games, and facing the bright shiny day moon while lugging around computers...
Nephilium...
The truth may be out there, but lies are inside your head. -- (Terry Pratchett, Hogfather)
Really... so Robertson registered mp3.com... everything I've seen says that he purchased it... Robertson and MP3 Nephilium
I always thought that the quote was: "Maybe Jesus was right when he said that the meek shall inherit the earth -- but they inherit very small plots, about six feet by three." --Robert A. Heinlein, as Lazarus Long
Yep... here's a nice little central list of spyware/adware/crap software that runs in the background:
a sk list.htm
http://www.answersthatwork.com/Tasklist_pages/t
Listed alphabetically and with instructions on how to access the tasklist...
Nephilium
Biers was where the undead drank. And when Igor the barman was asked for a Bloody Mary, he didn't mix a metaphor. -- (Terry Pratchett, Hogfather)
But the point I'm trying to make is that I'm NOT handing out anything. I'm making it available for someone to download. If someone has a license for a Microsoft product, has the license, but loses the disk, I can hand them a copy of the disc. It's ok for a friend of mine to borrow books of mine, if he copies the book, is it my fault for letting him borrow it? The problem I'm seeing is that there are times it is legal to download an MP3 down, even a copyrighted one. Example: I buy a CD last night, I get into the office and want to listen to it. I left the CD at home, I hop onto LimeWire and download the CD. What copyright violation did I commit?
I thought it wasn't the sharing that was illegal, but the downloading of material you don't have rights to. This looks like it's just going to fall under safe harbor...
Nephilium