Unfortunately, it still strays into the personal privacy realm. Because of the (understandable) fear of someone leaking trade secrets, now _someone_ knows all about _whatever_. Hell, I have personal conversations with my boss - at one point I was on medication for depression (I've worked through that, but that's not the point). He was curious why I was requesting weird hours off to see the therapist, and I didn't mind telling him, but it's not exactly information I wanted everyone I worked with to know. My job performance was still fantastic, and any personal issues I was having was my business. My boss respected my privacy, but my big fear would have been an unscrupulous email reader. This information was work related, but my manager can determine when more people need to know, not some schmuck intern.
you forgot the most important part: "For the time being". That means that, in the future (perhaps not very long), things could change. She doesn't contradict yourself unless you take words out of context.:]
In my opinion, if you get a DUI, that's it. Your license is gone, for at least a year, maybe 2-5. If you do it again after that, you go to jail for a long time. Again, in my opinion, drinking and driving is a lot like going to a mall and spinning in circles, shooting randomly with a pistol. You may not hit anyone, but then again, you may kill a few people. There's really no excuse for such actions.
You definitely have a point that those situations exist on windows. The question, however, is "do they exist on windows to the same degree as linux". I would say no, they don't. But, then again, to act as if Windows is perfect is a bit silly. It's just a bit more useable than Linux for the overwhelming majority of people. With that said, however, things are constantly getting better with each day that passes. I'm not sure it'll ever catch up, per se, but I do think there will come a point where it's useable enough that, overall, it will be a much more viable alternative for the majority of people out there. At least, if you forget the fact that it's really tough to get an OEM brand computer without Windows.
... I thought the target demographic nowadays was 18-35? Teens are only a small subset of those who game... Usually it's post-college aged guys who aren't married and have oodles of disposable income who buy the majority of games. When an adult with few financial obligations wants something, he buys it. When a kid with no money wants something, he complains for months or does chores just to buy one game. Hell, I spend about 80$ a month on games. Compared to 80$ a year while I was still in highschool.
It's not up to me to make their decisions for them, even if their decisions will result in them being raped or murdered. All I can do is tell them they're being fucking stupid. Same with the boys who do it. I don't presume to make a decision for someone who isn't myself. Maybe you like when people tell you what to do, but for me, all it does is make me ever so glad I still retain my second amendment right.
I never said he couldn't criticize them. But by doing so, he opens himself to criticism as well. He doesn't HAVE to be PC, but you're basically saying "leave him alone for not being respectful". And that's assuming he DOES hold women to higher standards than men, which he hasn't even stated yet.
Drunkenness of teenage girls: When they move out of being a minor and are able to make legally binding decisions on their own, then it's none of my business. If they want my opinion, they stay away from the alcohol, period. Since they haven't asked, and it doesn't affect me in any direct manner, I'm not going to shove my opinion down their throat. Do I like seeing them cavort naked in the streets? No. Do I like seeing all the stupid people going to church? No. But their drunkenness or worshipfulness does NOT infringe upon my rights. There are bad things that are more likely to happen to a girl. All we should be able to do is point out the dangers. If they choose to put themselves in that situation, that's their decision. It's not up to society to decide the course of action in everyone's life. Allowing them to think drunkenness is neutral behavior: it's not my right to tell someone what to do, unless they infringe upon my rights, in which case, I have every right to tell them what to do. Treating someone with respect also means respecting their soveriegn right to make their own decisions on their own lives. Even if that means letting them fuck every man alive. You don't have to respect the choice they made, but you have to respect their right to make that choice. Whether I like it or not is completely moot.
Society does have the right to expect certain behavior, but it does not have the right to demand certain behavior (provided it does not infringe upon the rights of others.) If I want to walk around my house naked and covered in mashed potatoes, that's my decision, not yours. It's what you do that matters. You can think what you want. You can even say what you want. But that doesn't mean you're not going to be judged by what you think, say, or do. Someone who thinks people of another race are inferior to he, but does not say it, will be judged less harshly than one who does say it, and one that does say it, but does not participate in a hate crime, will also be judged less harshly than one who lynches those he feels to be undesirable. That's common sense.
The dude who started this is allowed to think what he wants. He's allowed to say what he wants. And I'm allowed to think what I want about him, and say what I want about him. Just as you are allowed to do the same about me. And then we can debate who is right, as we're doing just now, and leave that debate firmly believing the other is an idiot. But you cannot tell another person what to do just because society expects it. Only if they infringe upon the rights of others.
It's funny how fiercely libertarian I am when it comes to personal rights (almost to the point of violence, which is rather unwise and weak-willed of me), yet so anti-the-evils-of-capitalism at the same time. But that's not the point of this argument.
Ooo, I guess you're right! How dare I want to be fair! How dare I have the unmitigated gall to want to treat people with respect! Shame on me!
If you don't want to be fair, go join the KKK or something. For those who DO respect the people they must live near, treating them with dignity and respect and allowing them to make their own choices is fine. The whole point was to try to find out WHAT his opinion is. You're basically saying "hey, he can have any opinion he wants, but you aren't allowed to ask him for his opinion in the off chance that you make then form your own opinion about him." How hypocritical.
Boys and girls are different physically, but that doesn't mean they should be blocked off into roles that they may not find appropriate. How DARE you make a decision for someone else when it isn't your fucking life.
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Usage Note: Traditionally, gender has been used primarily to refer to the grammatical categories of "masculine," "feminine," and "neuter," but in recent years the word has become well established in its use to refer to sex-based categories, as in phrases such as gender gap and the politics of gender. This usage is supported by the practice of many anthropologists, who reserve sex for reference to biological categories, while using gender to refer to social or cultural categories. According to this rule, one would say The effectiveness of the medication appears to depend on the sex (not gender) of the patient, but In peasant societies, gender (not sex) roles are likely to be more clearly defined. This distinction is useful in principle, but it is by no means widely observed, and considerable variation in usage occurs at all levels.
Well, it totally makes more sense (for straight men) to pay attention to the girls. To expect otherwise would be unrealistic. But would it bother you nearly as much if it were just the guys?
I have the feeling the GP and I are both anti-double standards when it comes to gender, hehe.
You put 20$ on your account. You check out the book. You now have 15$ left on your account, allowing you to check out 3 more books. If you bring the first one back, you're back up to 20$. We'l just chalk this one up to lack of coffee:]
Actually, if it accumulates the garbage, but then moves off to another site, they'll probably just blame that site.
Regarding writing websites that work properly under IE, despite it's flaws: true enough, but it's also possible to build a mansion at the bottom of the ocean (at least nearish to shore). Sure, it would probably cost trillions of dollars, but it's possible. That doesn't necessarily mean it's easy. : ]
Sure, if it's your website. But when you're a small business trying to sell your goods, you're not going to tell potential customers "hey, you're using IE, so go fuck yourself". That's like telling everyone wearing jeans who came into your physical store to get the fuck out. Methinks you're not going to be in business too long.
Thunderbird is absolutely horrendous on Windows. If I leave it on and don't touch it for 9-10 hours (a normal work day), when I try to do anything with it, it's like I'm trying to coax it to work on a 386. Most of the time I have to close it entirely and reopen it - the GUI may start responding again, but actually getting it to check email is impossible. I'll hit the check email button every 5 minutes for an hour and not have a single email, but as soon as I restart and check again, I have 10 emails.
Something is up. I continue to use it, as its the only email client out there for windows that seems to manage imap the way I want it (as if I wanted a fucking mark-as-delete/purge process, microsoft!), but it certainly isn't performing the way it should.
Granted, the system its on is only an XP 1900+ with 256mb of RAM, but still, it shouldn't be that sluggish. It's like wading through chest-deep molasses.
Err...well before Intel came out with their dual core, I was under the impression that dual core processors did mean on the same die. Maybe half the people paying attention thought it meant something it didn't, or maybe AMD and I were just suffering under the exact same interpretation of the phrase.
Curse me for not doing any recent research on this. A year ago or so (maybe more), everyone was talking about how PCI-X was the second coming of christ. I hadn't read anything from pcisig.com for a long time, and apparently I didn't read up enough on PCI-E the last time I was there. Thanks for the clarification.
Regardless of PCI-X, there will be something else after PCI-E. I have no idea what it'll be. But it's going to happen again. Such is life.
This is true, but the grandparent was obviously stating that in the past the old slot of choice was PCI. And before that ISA. Indeed, I'm sure when they started migrating to PCI for video cards, people like GGP bitched and moaned as well. It happened again when they started using AGP instead of PCI. And now they're doing it again when it moves to PCI-E. And what happens when we move to PCI-X? It'll happen again. And after that...well, I don't know, but I'm sure there'll be something. After all, we wouldn't want to disappoint those people who want to complain about how things change over time...
That may be, but I'm not going to swap out a 21" monitor for a 17" monitor. I want bigger than 21", actually. Fuck, I'll put two desks back to back, and just have one hold the monitor. If only TVs came in mega high resolution...
Unless, of course, they discriminate based on race, religion, sex, or physical disability. Or at least a landlord can't do that. I can't imagine it being legal to say "well, this usually costs 5$, but since you're black, it's $50000".
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More importantly than any of this crap: how do I get to become a porn czar?
This has been around for a while. My ex-roommate did this 2 years ago, easily. Maybe /. has a different definition for the word "news" than I do.
Unfortunately, it still strays into the personal privacy realm. Because of the (understandable) fear of someone leaking trade secrets, now _someone_ knows all about _whatever_. Hell, I have personal conversations with my boss - at one point I was on medication for depression (I've worked through that, but that's not the point). He was curious why I was requesting weird hours off to see the therapist, and I didn't mind telling him, but it's not exactly information I wanted everyone I worked with to know. My job performance was still fantastic, and any personal issues I was having was my business. My boss respected my privacy, but my big fear would have been an unscrupulous email reader. This information was work related, but my manager can determine when more people need to know, not some schmuck intern.
After all, you could have another operative waiting in the sewer for you to flush the documents down the toilet.
you forgot the most important part: "For the time being". That means that, in the future (perhaps not very long), things could change. She doesn't contradict yourself unless you take words out of context. :]
It's the same reason a surgeon can't go to work drunk. Sure, he COULD perform admirably. That doesn't mean you should let him give it a whirl.
In my opinion, if you get a DUI, that's it. Your license is gone, for at least a year, maybe 2-5. If you do it again after that, you go to jail for a long time. Again, in my opinion, drinking and driving is a lot like going to a mall and spinning in circles, shooting randomly with a pistol. You may not hit anyone, but then again, you may kill a few people. There's really no excuse for such actions.
Weeeeeeee!
You definitely have a point that those situations exist on windows. The question, however, is "do they exist on windows to the same degree as linux". I would say no, they don't. But, then again, to act as if Windows is perfect is a bit silly. It's just a bit more useable than Linux for the overwhelming majority of people. With that said, however, things are constantly getting better with each day that passes. I'm not sure it'll ever catch up, per se, but I do think there will come a point where it's useable enough that, overall, it will be a much more viable alternative for the majority of people out there. At least, if you forget the fact that it's really tough to get an OEM brand computer without Windows.
So...would you say you fall under number 8, or are you just a complete jackass when it comes to everything in life?
... I thought the target demographic nowadays was 18-35? Teens are only a small subset of those who game... Usually it's post-college aged guys who aren't married and have oodles of disposable income who buy the majority of games. When an adult with few financial obligations wants something, he buys it. When a kid with no money wants something, he complains for months or does chores just to buy one game. Hell, I spend about 80$ a month on games. Compared to 80$ a year while I was still in highschool.
It's not up to me to make their decisions for them, even if their decisions will result in them being raped or murdered. All I can do is tell them they're being fucking stupid. Same with the boys who do it. I don't presume to make a decision for someone who isn't myself. Maybe you like when people tell you what to do, but for me, all it does is make me ever so glad I still retain my second amendment right.
I never said he couldn't criticize them. But by doing so, he opens himself to criticism as well. He doesn't HAVE to be PC, but you're basically saying "leave him alone for not being respectful". And that's assuming he DOES hold women to higher standards than men, which he hasn't even stated yet.
Drunkenness of teenage girls: When they move out of being a minor and are able to make legally binding decisions on their own, then it's none of my business. If they want my opinion, they stay away from the alcohol, period. Since they haven't asked, and it doesn't affect me in any direct manner, I'm not going to shove my opinion down their throat. Do I like seeing them cavort naked in the streets? No. Do I like seeing all the stupid people going to church? No. But their drunkenness or worshipfulness does NOT infringe upon my rights.
There are bad things that are more likely to happen to a girl. All we should be able to do is point out the dangers. If they choose to put themselves in that situation, that's their decision. It's not up to society to decide the course of action in everyone's life.
Allowing them to think drunkenness is neutral behavior: it's not my right to tell someone what to do, unless they infringe upon my rights, in which case, I have every right to tell them what to do. Treating someone with respect also means respecting their soveriegn right to make their own decisions on their own lives. Even if that means letting them fuck every man alive. You don't have to respect the choice they made, but you have to respect their right to make that choice. Whether I like it or not is completely moot.
Society does have the right to expect certain behavior, but it does not have the right to demand certain behavior (provided it does not infringe upon the rights of others.) If I want to walk around my house naked and covered in mashed potatoes, that's my decision, not yours.
It's what you do that matters. You can think what you want. You can even say what you want. But that doesn't mean you're not going to be judged by what you think, say, or do. Someone who thinks people of another race are inferior to he, but does not say it, will be judged less harshly than one who does say it, and one that does say it, but does not participate in a hate crime, will also be judged less harshly than one who lynches those he feels to be undesirable. That's common sense.
The dude who started this is allowed to think what he wants. He's allowed to say what he wants. And I'm allowed to think what I want about him, and say what I want about him. Just as you are allowed to do the same about me. And then we can debate who is right, as we're doing just now, and leave that debate firmly believing the other is an idiot. But you cannot tell another person what to do just because society expects it. Only if they infringe upon the rights of others.
It's funny how fiercely libertarian I am when it comes to personal rights (almost to the point of violence, which is rather unwise and weak-willed of me), yet so anti-the-evils-of-capitalism at the same time. But that's not the point of this argument.
If you don't want to be fair, go join the KKK or something. For those who DO respect the people they must live near, treating them with dignity and respect and allowing them to make their own choices is fine. The whole point was to try to find out WHAT his opinion is. You're basically saying "hey, he can have any opinion he wants, but you aren't allowed to ask him for his opinion in the off chance that you make then form your own opinion about him." How hypocritical.
Boys and girls are different physically, but that doesn't mean they should be blocked off into roles that they may not find appropriate. How DARE you make a decision for someone else when it isn't your fucking life.
P.S:
Well, it totally makes more sense (for straight men) to pay attention to the girls. To expect otherwise would be unrealistic. But would it bother you nearly as much if it were just the guys?
I have the feeling the GP and I are both anti-double standards when it comes to gender, hehe.
I, too, have not yet had my coffee.
/flee
Sigh. We'l => We'll
You put 20$ on your account. You check out the book. You now have 15$ left on your account, allowing you to check out 3 more books. If you bring the first one back, you're back up to 20$. We'l just chalk this one up to lack of coffee :]
Actually, if it accumulates the garbage, but then moves off to another site, they'll probably just blame that site.
Regarding writing websites that work properly under IE, despite it's flaws: true enough, but it's also possible to build a mansion at the bottom of the ocean (at least nearish to shore). Sure, it would probably cost trillions of dollars, but it's possible. That doesn't necessarily mean it's easy. : ]
Sure, if it's your website. But when you're a small business trying to sell your goods, you're not going to tell potential customers "hey, you're using IE, so go fuck yourself". That's like telling everyone wearing jeans who came into your physical store to get the fuck out. Methinks you're not going to be in business too long.
Thunderbird is absolutely horrendous on Windows. If I leave it on and don't touch it for 9-10 hours (a normal work day), when I try to do anything with it, it's like I'm trying to coax it to work on a 386. Most of the time I have to close it entirely and reopen it - the GUI may start responding again, but actually getting it to check email is impossible. I'll hit the check email button every 5 minutes for an hour and not have a single email, but as soon as I restart and check again, I have 10 emails.
Something is up. I continue to use it, as its the only email client out there for windows that seems to manage imap the way I want it (as if I wanted a fucking mark-as-delete/purge process, microsoft!), but it certainly isn't performing the way it should.
Granted, the system its on is only an XP 1900+ with 256mb of RAM, but still, it shouldn't be that sluggish. It's like wading through chest-deep molasses.
Err...well before Intel came out with their dual core, I was under the impression that dual core processors did mean on the same die. Maybe half the people paying attention thought it meant something it didn't, or maybe AMD and I were just suffering under the exact same interpretation of the phrase.
Curse me for not doing any recent research on this. A year ago or so (maybe more), everyone was talking about how PCI-X was the second coming of christ. I hadn't read anything from pcisig.com for a long time, and apparently I didn't read up enough on PCI-E the last time I was there. Thanks for the clarification.
Regardless of PCI-X, there will be something else after PCI-E. I have no idea what it'll be. But it's going to happen again. Such is life.
This is true, but the grandparent was obviously stating that in the past the old slot of choice was PCI. And before that ISA. Indeed, I'm sure when they started migrating to PCI for video cards, people like GGP bitched and moaned as well. It happened again when they started using AGP instead of PCI. And now they're doing it again when it moves to PCI-E. And what happens when we move to PCI-X? It'll happen again. And after that...well, I don't know, but I'm sure there'll be something. After all, we wouldn't want to disappoint those people who want to complain about how things change over time...
That may be, but I'm not going to swap out a 21" monitor for a 17" monitor. I want bigger than 21", actually. Fuck, I'll put two desks back to back, and just have one hold the monitor. If only TVs came in mega high resolution...
Unless, of course, they discriminate based on race, religion, sex, or physical disability. Or at least a landlord can't do that. I can't imagine it being legal to say "well, this usually costs 5$, but since you're black, it's $50000".