Speech is actually pretty slow when compared to thoughts. I think we should aim for thought recognition. That way my co-workers don't have to listen to me babeling all the time. Offices would sure be noisy if everyone had to talk to thier computers. Imagine doing Tech support:
Tech: Hi thanks for calling WidgetSoft Joe: My computer has a stange blue screen on it T: What is your account number? J: 1234 T: Computer please pull up account number 1234. J: Who are you talking to? T: The computer. Show me if account 1234 is paid to date. J: Why does that matter? T: Is account 1234 a client that has many problems. J: You are pissing me off... Just fix my blue screen problem and quite talking to your stupid computer.
I prefer peace and quite when working on computers.
This is just FUD!!! If you are a Java Developer this stuff is trivial...
1) Use Forte / Eclipse / Netbeans to build your app.
2) Download JBoss 2.4.4 with Tomcat.
3) type something like tar -zxvf jboss.tar.gz
4) type somthing like jboss/startup.sh
5) copy your.ear to the jboss/deploy dir
6) Browse to localhost/myapp
It really isn't that hard. Come on people. Please quit bashing J2EE speading FUD about how difficult it is. It really isn't.
Actually, Java has never followed the same naming and version number conventions that GNU projects use. ie. JDK 1.1.? is almost a completly different codebase than J2SE 1.2. You can read about the overhaul they did on 1.4 here
I mostly agree with your other post except that the JCP really does help... I mean, read the article all these posts are "about". Apache didn't like the direction Java was going, made a stink, and Sun made atleast some attempt to help ease the concerns. Try to do that with.Net and Micro$oft... It's not ideal, but as you said, it's good technology.
Come on... Give me a ficken brake... Switching from 1.3 to 1.4 is like switching form libc 5 to glibc-2. You just don't do that... Whoever at your company decided to switch to 1.4 should be beaten with a rubber hose. That's just a bad decision.
I did read the post and my comments stand. The poster mentioned "developers and users"
Developers: First of all I do not consider the average MSCE a java developer. Also, since I doubt that the average MSCE's has a good understanding of the Java platform asking them to install tomcat is like asking them to pull a list of the top 50 email senders out of/var/adm/mail.log and sort them alphabetically all with a string of unix commands. The point is that any Java developer can install any of the mentioned apps pretty quickly.
Users: With Java most users just need a web browser and / or J2SE 1.3.1 from Sun. How is that difficult?
None of the so-called "GPL hippy followers" ever say that Java not being Open Source is the source of their hatred. I love the GPL, OpenSource, and all the hippy followers. I just think that many people automatically criticize Java because it's not OpenSource or GPL, without ever really using the technology or learning about the JCP. That is what I attempted to point out with my GPL comment.
...but don't seem that commited to providing a stable and simple to install environment for developers and users.
Have you used Java lately? Forte? NetBeans? Eclipse? Tomcat? JBoss? There are plenty of stable and simple to install environments for developers and users. I use them everyday!
I would love to see Sun dedicate perhaps 6 months to working with other implementers to get java working smoothly and seemlessly on a wide range of hardware and operating systems, as it just doesn't seem to yet.
Once again... Have you used Java lately?
At my company we run and host Java Apps written on every different platform out there. How often are the Java Apps incompatible? Only when someone decides to use Micro$oft specific Java. (Which isn't that often.)
Why do so many on Slashdot people feel compelled to write FUD about Java just because it's not GPL?
I suspect that if it were all of a sudden GPL'd everyone here would bow down and start worshipping it, because it's the coolest thing since the hula-hoop.
The difference between magnetic and true north is called declination. Some maps even say how much the declination changes per year. Here is a nice FAQ about declination which includes a section about how to determine declination. More information about declination Here.
This is not just a project to watch... When 3.0 is release, all other Java Middleware will be worthless. It is more than a project to watch, but one to support, use, and contribute to.
With all the time you spend doing that on the linux box, why don't you write some program that does it all for you automatically using some AI engine. That way you and the rest of the people using Mandrake as a server (for some strange reason), could all benefit. Or as a number of others have mentioned use Debian.
Also, I think you forgot a step... Shouldn't you run make -n install before you actually install?
We have multiple instances (dev & prod) running on the same server using a NetworkAppliances througn nfs. Two nice things about this are:
1) We can also mount the netapp on windows.
2) It automatically takes disk snapshots, which are very easy to access. (just cd.snapshot/hourly.0 or something) it keeps a few hourly,daily,weekly, etc.
I'm not trying to be a salesman, but we love our netapp.
It's pretty simple here...
The goverenment gets a bunch of "scientists" to claim that we are all going to die because the oceans are going to rise, and the average temperatures will increase 10 degrees over the next 5 years, and (umm) that little airosol can is the reason (not the big volcano that just spewed 100X more crap into the sky than the atomic bomb).... But anyways, everyone gets scared and so the goverenments start passing laws to take more and more control of energy. And of-course everyone loves it because we all know the goverenment can make better decisions for us, then we can (think illegal drugs, speeding laws, etc). So we get the idea that the governement is doing a great job because they have protected us from all those evil UV rays. Hip-Hip-Haray for the governement... There will be parades and dancing in the streets because we are all not going to die. Then of-course the goverenement gets some other "scientists" to release new findings that all the hard work has paid off... The ozone hole is closing up, the world is getting colder!!! Then of-course a few years down the road we would begin seeing headlines like "The Next Ice-Age is Apon Us". And since the goverenment did such a good job with the global warming issue, we let them take more control from us.
As far as I know, Capitalism is still the best economic system. The primary goal of governements world wide should be to promote capitalism! Not only the leftists but also the rightists should agree... As least anyone that likes nice cars and houses and toys and etc. should agree.
I have not met many people who don't want those things. So, until everyone in the world decides that they do not want those things, a greed driven economic system (Capitalism) is the only one we know of that really works.
We have found that Java and the J2EE work great for web apps that also need to have these types of reporting functions. Check out iText - a JAVA-PDF Library for the api that will make a pdf from your data.
So, you are assuming that all religions exclude science as being a valid source of knowledge. I happen to believe that knowledge comes from experience. If experience (including scientific data) tells us something about the questions religion tries to answer, then a religious framework should adapt to that evidence. If a religious framework can not adapt, then it has little relevence to life. I think many religions have adapted well to "new physical evidence". For example, most Christians (educated ones) no longer believe that the Earth has only been around 6000 years.
How does your world view adapt to "new physical evidence"? Take for example the existance of good and evil... How did you feel when your heard about Columbine? Why? What about the evidence that this Universe had a beginning? Where did that beginning come from?
My point: Religions are world views, possibly similar to your world view. Is it plausable that evidence supports a religious worldview? No? Then it would seem you have decided to believe a world view and ignore evidence. That sounds like many of the religions I can think of.
This is also:
3) A new way for the governement to control the way you live. (Energy use) Russia called it communism. I'll be polite and call it socialism.
This comment is mostly right. I do beleive that there is a place to test a students understanding of the syntax, functions, etc. of programming languages. As stated in anohter post, the demand for Java programmers exceeds those of any other language. So, it seems reasonable that this part of the test be in Java.
There is, of course, a catch. Only a minuscule portion of computers connected to the Internet are configured to recognize dot-biz names, and unless you're using one, you'll get one of those irksome can't-find-that-site errors.
Doesn't a client just talk to a DNS server that translates an address to an ip? So wouldn't the problem actually be with the DNS servers not being correctly configured?
Here is some info from biztld.net: If your ISP has not yet upgraded their domain servers from the ICANN Legacy Namespace to the ORSC INCLUSIVE NAMESPACE Supported by The PacificRoot, you may not be able to resolve many of the new Internet domain names currently being activated. If that is the case, you will need to Upgrade your DNS here.
Slashdot Mirror
Speech is actually pretty slow when compared to thoughts. I think we should aim for thought recognition. That way my co-workers don't have to listen to me babeling all the time. Offices would sure be noisy if everyone had to talk to thier computers. Imagine doing Tech support:
Tech: Hi thanks for calling WidgetSoft
Joe: My computer has a stange blue screen on it
T: What is your account number?
J: 1234
T: Computer please pull up account number 1234.
J: Who are you talking to?
T: The computer. Show me if account 1234 is paid to date.
J: Why does that matter?
T: Is account 1234 a client that has many problems.
J: You are pissing me off... Just fix my blue screen problem and quite talking to your stupid computer.
I prefer peace and quite when working on computers.
This better be one of those April 1st things!
This is just FUD!!! If you are a Java Developer this stuff is trivial... .ear to the jboss/deploy dir
1) Use Forte / Eclipse / Netbeans to build your app.
2) Download JBoss 2.4.4 with Tomcat.
3) type something like tar -zxvf jboss.tar.gz
4) type somthing like jboss/startup.sh
5) copy your
6) Browse to localhost/myapp
It really isn't that hard. Come on people. Please quit bashing J2EE speading FUD about how difficult it is. It really isn't.
As my sysAdmin puts it:
1
Security = -------------------
Convenience
There is just no such thing as a secure Windows box. Well, I take that back... Unplug it.
Actually, Java has never followed the same naming and version number conventions that GNU projects use. ie. JDK 1.1.? is almost a completly different codebase than J2SE 1.2. You can read about the overhaul they did on 1.4 here
I mostly agree with your other post except that the JCP really does help... I mean, read the article all these posts are "about". Apache didn't like the direction Java was going, made a stink, and Sun made atleast some attempt to help ease the concerns. Try to do that with .Net and Micro$oft... It's not ideal, but as you said, it's good technology.
Come on... Give me a ficken brake... Switching from 1.3 to 1.4 is like switching form libc 5 to glibc-2. You just don't do that... Whoever at your company decided to switch to 1.4 should be beaten with a rubber hose. That's just a bad decision.
I did read the post and my comments stand. The poster mentioned "developers and users"
/var/adm/mail.log and sort them alphabetically all with a string of unix commands. The point is that any Java developer can install any of the mentioned apps pretty quickly.
Developers: First of all I do not consider the average MSCE a java developer. Also, since I doubt that the average MSCE's has a good understanding of the Java platform asking them to install tomcat is like asking them to pull a list of the top 50 email senders out of
Users: With Java most users just need a web browser and / or J2SE 1.3.1 from Sun. How is that difficult?
None of the so-called "GPL hippy followers" ever say that Java not being Open Source is the source of their hatred. I love the GPL, OpenSource, and all the hippy followers. I just think that many people automatically criticize Java because it's not OpenSource or GPL, without ever really using the technology or learning about the JCP. That is what I attempted to point out with my GPL comment.
MORE FUD
Are you serious? Have you ever heard of a JAR? (Java ARchive)
This is F-U-D.
Have you used Java lately? Forte? NetBeans? Eclipse? Tomcat? JBoss? There are plenty of stable and simple to install environments for developers and users. I use them everyday!
I would love to see Sun dedicate perhaps 6 months to working with other implementers to get java working smoothly and seemlessly on a wide range of hardware and operating systems, as it just doesn't seem to yet.
Once again... Have you used Java lately?
At my company we run and host Java Apps written on every different platform out there. How often are the Java Apps incompatible? Only when someone decides to use Micro$oft specific Java. (Which isn't that often.)
Why do so many on Slashdot people feel compelled to write FUD about Java just because it's not GPL?
I suspect that if it were all of a sudden GPL'd everyone here would bow down and start worshipping it, because it's the coolest thing since the hula-hoop.
The difference between magnetic and true north is called declination. Some maps even say how much the declination changes per year. Here is a nice FAQ about declination which includes a section about how to determine declination. More information about declination Here.
My isp First Link filters about 100 per day for the 15 users at my company.
sudo apt-get upgrade
This is not just a project to watch... When 3.0 is release, all other Java Middleware will be worthless. It is more than a project to watch, but one to support, use, and contribute to.
With all the time you spend doing that on the linux box, why don't you write some program that does it all for you automatically using some AI engine. That way you and the rest of the people using Mandrake as a server (for some strange reason), could all benefit. Or as a number of others have mentioned use Debian.
Also, I think you forgot a step... Shouldn't you run make -n install before you actually install?
We have multiple instances (dev & prod) running on the same server using a NetworkAppliances througn nfs. Two nice things about this are: .snapshot/hourly.0 or something) it keeps a few hourly,daily,weekly, etc.
1) We can also mount the netapp on windows.
2) It automatically takes disk snapshots, which are very easy to access. (just cd
I'm not trying to be a salesman, but we love our netapp.
It's pretty simple here...
The goverenment gets a bunch of "scientists" to claim that we are all going to die because the oceans are going to rise, and the average temperatures will increase 10 degrees over the next 5 years, and (umm) that little airosol can is the reason (not the big volcano that just spewed 100X more crap into the sky than the atomic bomb).... But anyways, everyone gets scared and so the goverenments start passing laws to take more and more control of energy. And of-course everyone loves it because we all know the goverenment can make better decisions for us, then we can (think illegal drugs, speeding laws, etc). So we get the idea that the governement is doing a great job because they have protected us from all those evil UV rays. Hip-Hip-Haray for the governement... There will be parades and dancing in the streets because we are all not going to die. Then of-course the goverenement gets some other "scientists" to release new findings that all the hard work has paid off... The ozone hole is closing up, the world is getting colder!!! Then of-course a few years down the road we would begin seeing headlines like "The Next Ice-Age is Apon Us". And since the goverenment did such a good job with the global warming issue, we let them take more control from us.
It's all about control!!! Some call it Socialism
Will you fight for your freedom?
As far as I know, Capitalism is still the best economic system. The primary goal of governements world wide should be to promote capitalism! Not only the leftists but also the rightists should agree... As least anyone that likes nice cars and houses and toys and etc. should agree.
I have not met many people who don't want those things. So, until everyone in the world decides that they do not want those things, a greed driven economic system (Capitalism) is the only one we know of that really works.
We have found that Java and the J2EE work great for web apps that also need to have these types of reporting functions. Check out iText - a JAVA-PDF Library for the api that will make a pdf from your data.
So, you are assuming that all religions exclude science as being a valid source of knowledge. I happen to believe that knowledge comes from experience. If experience (including scientific data) tells us something about the questions religion tries to answer, then a religious framework should adapt to that evidence. If a religious framework can not adapt, then it has little relevence to life. I think many religions have adapted well to "new physical evidence". For example, most Christians (educated ones) no longer believe that the Earth has only been around 6000 years.
How does your world view adapt to "new physical evidence"? Take for example the existance of good and evil... How did you feel when your heard about Columbine? Why? What about the evidence that this Universe had a beginning? Where did that beginning come from?
My point: Religions are world views, possibly similar to your world view. Is it plausable that evidence supports a religious worldview? No? Then it would seem you have decided to believe a world view and ignore evidence. That sounds like many of the religions I can think of.
This is also:
3) A new way for the governement to control the way you live. (Energy use) Russia called it communism. I'll be polite and call it socialism.
Just my $0.02
the standards-compliant Web, as we know it, will die.
Last time I checked most sites (and browsers) do NOT comply to standards. ie. Slashdot
As far as I know the "Standards-Compliant Web" has never existed...
This comment is mostly right. I do beleive that there is a place to test a students understanding of the syntax, functions, etc. of programming languages. As stated in anohter post, the demand for Java programmers exceeds those of any other language. So, it seems reasonable that this part of the test be in Java.
:(
By the way, I only got a 2 on the test.
There is, of course, a catch. Only a minuscule portion of computers connected to the Internet are configured to recognize dot-biz names, and unless you're using one, you'll get one of those irksome can't-find-that-site errors.
Doesn't a client just talk to a DNS server that translates an address to an ip? So wouldn't the problem actually be with the DNS servers not being correctly configured?
Here is some info from biztld.net:
If your ISP has not yet upgraded their domain servers from the ICANN Legacy Namespace to the ORSC INCLUSIVE NAMESPACE Supported by The PacificRoot, you may not be able to resolve many of the new Internet domain names currently being activated. If that is the case, you will need to Upgrade your DNS here.
I wish people who wrote articles had a clue.