I have been to financial and medial customer sites that have rooms bigger than football fields with nothing more that hundreds of rows of selves, and many tens of millions of tapes. I am sure they would like rejoice in this greater density.
The real money is in the maintenance. Give them the software free plus one year of free maintenance. They see if you software is valuable to them and they may get hooked. Be up front and tell them how much you'll charge for yearly maintenance after the first year, if they like the software they will almost certainly ask of modifications, where you make even more money.
If they don't like it or use it then it's no real loss on your part since they were not going to pay any ways.
I disagree - you must have it implemented improperly, because it works great for us and being a 25,000+ person company we generate thousands of pages (2TB+ ) in docs a week. Many of our docs are laden with graphic and embedded objects.
Vista is a huge and costly flop for Microsoft, they only sold 300 million copies this year, and barely 200 million copies of Office 2007, and IE is barely 80% of the browser market at this rate they will be out of business any second now. They might as well turn off the lights and go home.
However if they can hold on just long enough to release Windows 7 in 2010 then it might postpone their timely demise by a couple years at best.
If done right Windows 7 could be huge, Many large companies do an every other upgrade cycle and those XP PC are showing their age. And slot of people were scared of Vista - if this is only slightly better it could be the big one many uninformed are awaiting.
EMC hires hundreds of IS/IT grads each year and trains them to install and support EMC equipment. It is called "Associate Customer Engineer" or GSAP , I belive the pay starts around mid 50s with a very rapid increase over the 2 year commitment. Then there are lots of opportunity once 2 years are done.
https://sjobs.brassring.com/1033/ASP/TG/cim_home.asp?partnerid=20085&siteid=5109
You could partition the unused disk space then install a iSCSI target drivers, and then use a iSCSI initiator on a server to stripe across them in a RAID6 / RAID10 / RAID51 fashion.
I deploy storage networks, business continuity, virtualization, and disaster recovery solutions for a job, and would never under take this if these PCs are on the desktops.
Your best bet is to use a lowend iSCSI storage array like a Dell AX150i over a dedicated gigabit network just for your servers, and then share it out to the desktops using NFS/CIFS.
Or you could just buy a NFS/CIFS appliance for the clients and servers to use like a EMC Celerra NS20.
Oh please it's all over for Windows. MS is luck if they sell 200 million copies of Vista this next year, and at best they are looking a collecting service contracts on another 300 million copies of windows that don't get updated. Also I hear they only sold 1 million copies of Windows Basic edition this year in India.
Just look how many new installs of Linux there will be over the next year.
Also the newest version of office will probably only sell 100 Million copies in 2007 - compare that to OpenOffice.
I don't see how Microsoft could possible stay in bussines with those numbers - they might as well turn off the lights and go home - broke.
It's becuse of OSS and products like Vista that Microsoft's days are numbered. The'll be lucky if they sell 250 million copies of Vista in the next 2 years, probably no more than 80% will have the next version of MS Office. At that rate they'll surly go bankrupt.
I have been using DSL ( www.damnsmalllinux.org/ ) for the same job, but I am willing to give this a shot.
I like the ability to use CIFS so the all Windows boxes on my home network can share data & printer
This is why I run WinXP-SP2 and I NEVER have any viruses, crashes, or spyware.
Rock solid and recognizes all my hardware, and all software runs flawlessly
Novell is flailing, gasping it's lasts breaths before it rolls over and sinks beneath the waves of change. The only real revenue keeping its head above water is government agencies that haven't moved off legacy products that no one else uses.
Good point - but the person selecting option B would probably install their own distro anyways. And the people selecting option A are 98% of the population.
Thats not Dell's problem - it's the reason why they are so sucessful, they chase after the corporate big bucks and the large WinTel consumer market share. Why waste their time chasing geeks and specialty dollars when there is sooo little compared to the general population.
But that is also the problem with it. People find comfort in what they know - and using XP at work as well as at home makes people feel warm and cozy - and the fact that the enduser didn't even know which OS is when they bought that computer makes the choice easier for them.
In reality if the enduser was just asked Windows or Linux as thier only OS choice,and they could say Linux and get the same distro with the same look and feel as their computer at work - would dramaticaly help the sreap of Linux.
Thats good for you. But for the other 98% of the population want a PC that is already up and running with all the apps, drivers, and configuration set. So it's the much larger market that Dell will chase to sell too.
The real money is in companies that buy 20,000 identical systems with a huge service contract. Not us computer geeks that tend to build our own anyways.
he is right - Too many incompatable distros are hurting the advancement of linux in the corp marketplace. In a way having just one overweling popular distro making up 80% of the Linux marketplace would actually help with Linux's more wide acceptance.
I am a entrprise IT instructor and have 12 new students from large companies every week. Guessing I would say white men between between 30 to 50 yrs old make up %90 + of my American and European students.
The remainin g 10% are mainly Asian men, Indian men, or women - exreemly few are African American.
Of the thousands of international students I have had over the years - I don't recall ever having a black African student, and extreemly few Arab.
My fortune 500 company only uses major namebrand qualified servers, redundant HBAs, redundant switches & fabric, EMC storage arrays, and daily backups. For service we pay for 4 hour service window. That is how we maintain 99.999% up time.
I have been to financial and medial customer sites that have rooms bigger than football fields with nothing more that hundreds of rows of selves, and many tens of millions of tapes. I am sure they would like rejoice in this greater density.
The real money is in the maintenance. Give them the software free plus one year of free maintenance. They see if you software is valuable to them and they may get hooked. Be up front and tell them how much you'll charge for yearly maintenance after the first year, if they like the software they will almost certainly ask of modifications, where you make even more money. If they don't like it or use it then it's no real loss on your part since they were not going to pay any ways.
I disagree - you must have it implemented improperly, because it works great for us and being a 25,000+ person company we generate thousands of pages (2TB+ ) in docs a week. Many of our docs are laden with graphic and embedded objects.
just load a clean copy of XP SP3 and OOS - you are good to go.
Vista is a huge and costly flop for Microsoft, they only sold 300 million copies this year, and barely 200 million copies of Office 2007, and IE is barely 80% of the browser market at this rate they will be out of business any second now. They might as well turn off the lights and go home. However if they can hold on just long enough to release Windows 7 in 2010 then it might postpone their timely demise by a couple years at best.
If done right Windows 7 could be huge, Many large companies do an every other upgrade cycle and those XP PC are showing their age. And slot of people were scared of Vista - if this is only slightly better it could be the big one many uninformed are awaiting.
EMC hires hundreds of IS/IT grads each year and trains them to install and support EMC equipment. It is called "Associate Customer Engineer" or GSAP , I belive the pay starts around mid 50s with a very rapid increase over the 2 year commitment. Then there are lots of opportunity once 2 years are done. https://sjobs.brassring.com/1033/ASP/TG/cim_home.asp?partnerid=20085&siteid=5109
those are nice and cheap if you get the older blue ones, hotswap drives, gig ethernet, (4) 1TB ide
You could partition the unused disk space then install a iSCSI target drivers, and then use a iSCSI initiator on a server to stripe across them in a RAID6 / RAID10 / RAID51 fashion. I deploy storage networks, business continuity, virtualization, and disaster recovery solutions for a job, and would never under take this if these PCs are on the desktops. Your best bet is to use a lowend iSCSI storage array like a Dell AX150i over a dedicated gigabit network just for your servers, and then share it out to the desktops using NFS/CIFS. Or you could just buy a NFS/CIFS appliance for the clients and servers to use like a EMC Celerra NS20.
I would go with the Dell EMC AX150i SP Array for an iSCSI solution of that size - it can do iSCSI up to 6TB.
Perhaps this is a good thing - if it generates enough revenue to fund many small open info sharing projects.
I wonder what advantages EXT4 has over the newest version NTFS?
Oh please it's all over for Windows. MS is luck if they sell 200 million copies of Vista this next year, and at best they are looking a collecting service contracts on another 300 million copies of windows that don't get updated. Also I hear they only sold 1 million copies of Windows Basic edition this year in India. Just look how many new installs of Linux there will be over the next year. Also the newest version of office will probably only sell 100 Million copies in 2007 - compare that to OpenOffice. I don't see how Microsoft could possible stay in bussines with those numbers - they might as well turn off the lights and go home - broke.
One thing I noticed when I installed Vista on my MAC book is that it now wieghs more, 6.4Lbs (Vista) vs 5.9Lbs (MAC OS)
It's becuse of OSS and products like Vista that Microsoft's days are numbered. The'll be lucky if they sell 250 million copies of Vista in the next 2 years, probably no more than 80% will have the next version of MS Office. At that rate they'll surly go bankrupt.
I have been using DSL ( www.damnsmalllinux.org/ ) for the same job, but I am willing to give this a shot. I like the ability to use CIFS so the all Windows boxes on my home network can share data & printer
This is why I run WinXP-SP2 and I NEVER have any viruses, crashes, or spyware. Rock solid and recognizes all my hardware, and all software runs flawlessly
Novell is flailing, gasping it's lasts breaths before it rolls over and sinks beneath the waves of change. The only real revenue keeping its head above water is government agencies that haven't moved off legacy products that no one else uses.
Good point - but the person selecting option B would probably install their own distro anyways. And the people selecting option A are 98% of the population.
Thats not Dell's problem - it's the reason why they are so sucessful, they chase after the corporate big bucks and the large WinTel consumer market share. Why waste their time chasing geeks and specialty dollars when there is sooo little compared to the general population.
But that is also the problem with it. People find comfort in what they know - and using XP at work as well as at home makes people feel warm and cozy - and the fact that the enduser didn't even know which OS is when they bought that computer makes the choice easier for them. In reality if the enduser was just asked Windows or Linux as thier only OS choice ,and they could say Linux and get the same distro with the same look and feel as their computer at work - would dramaticaly help the sreap of Linux.
Thats good for you. But for the other 98% of the population want a PC that is already up and running with all the apps, drivers, and configuration set. So it's the much larger market that Dell will chase to sell too. The real money is in companies that buy 20,000 identical systems with a huge service contract. Not us computer geeks that tend to build our own anyways.
he is right - Too many incompatable distros are hurting the advancement of linux in the corp marketplace. In a way having just one overweling popular distro making up 80% of the Linux marketplace would actually help with Linux's more wide acceptance.
I am a entrprise IT instructor and have 12 new students from large companies every week. Guessing I would say white men between between 30 to 50 yrs old make up %90 + of my American and European students. The remainin g 10% are mainly Asian men, Indian men, or women - exreemly few are African American. Of the thousands of international students I have had over the years - I don't recall ever having a black African student, and extreemly few Arab.
My fortune 500 company only uses major namebrand qualified servers, redundant HBAs, redundant switches & fabric, EMC storage arrays, and daily backups. For service we pay for 4 hour service window. That is how we maintain 99.999% up time.