I can't believe this is idea is a big deal. Haven't most geeks been using Microsoft's Terraserver to get overhead sat images of locations they're going to be going to and using them as a guide once you reach the general location of your destination? Even though the photos are from a top-down perspective, they usually help me find the business I'm looking for when I'm in the neighborhood.
Maybe, just maybe, because it isn't supported out-of-the-box, and since most average users can't even double-click without help, they won't take the time/effort to install an external codec, much less one they never heard about (maybe you could get away with RealPlayer or something like that, but anything less known and it's pushing it).
Yes, because non-Windows users are so stupid that they can't figure out how to install codecs or click buttons. Especially those OSX and Linux bastards.
Then the solution would be to have two seperate torrents with one seeder offfering the first half of the file and the other seeder offering the second half. Then the recipient can combine them together. If so, that's his doing - not the seeders who were merely sharing partial works for commentary (nor the non-seed torrents that are merely distributing very small portions of the file and not the entire file).
So, if you have a torrent tracker that is set up much like Slashdot is - where you have seeded torrents (instead of articles) and each torrent has the ability to recieve and display comments from visitors about that specific torrent's book/movie/album/game, it's no longer in violation of copyright? Because people are accessing the supplied copyrighted content for the purpose of "commenting on the creative work".
You mean this comment is my own property for 95 years just because I wrote it...
Stay back fools and don't quote me. You'd better believe I'll protect my rights!
You have forgotten about fair use.
Don't you dare try to call distribution of his copyrighted comments to tens of thousands of strangers over the internet with the "fair use" of sharing his comments with one of your friends, for purpose of research or commentary! HOW DARE YOU!!!
As I understand it, every creative work is copyrighted the moment it is created. You don't have to pay the cash and fill out the forms with the government just to have a copyright on something.
The difference here is that you can prosecute copyright violations more harshly if the copyright is registered than if it is not. If it is registered with the government, you can typically sue for more than just damages. If there is no *registered* copyright on your creation, you can still take the violator go court - but you'll only be allowed to sue for the actual cash-damage they've done to you.
I'm not an IP lawyer, of course. This is just based on my comprehension of online legal resources after researching for a couple situations I've been in and needed to enforce my rights.
They don't. They make judgements based on their interpretation of the law. That's what they're hired for. The phrase "legislate from the bench" is just NewSpeak thrown about to gather support from various groups when they don't agree with a ruling.
Personal freedom doesn't come into play where children and/or schools are involved. There are historical exceptions and legal precedents establishing this fact. Just thought it was worth pointing out before people get all high-and-might on the white horse about bringing "free speech" and other irrelevant arguments into play.
I know this is completely off topic, but here is my suggestion: Debian.
I know, it has a reputation of being one of the most difficult to install and administer, because of the "guru" factor. I don't think that's accurate. If you're inexperienced when it comes to computers, I would suggest something with a stronger grounding in point and click. If you're well-experienced, then you might be more comfortable with Debian.
I grew up on DOS (except for my first experience, which was with a VIC-20 in 1984). I barely used Windows. Even after Windows95 came out, I refused to use it. I didn't start using Windows until Windows98 - and only begrudgingly. Not long after, I started playing with Linux. A friend/coworker introduced everyone in the office to it and a lot of us grabbed onto it and have been die-hard ever since (back in about 1998).
I played with Red Hat, mostly. I didn't like it. It didn't feel right and it was hard to figure out where things were for me. It felt kludgy. But then I got my hands on Debian. The only reason I bothered with Debian was that I knew Slashdot used it.
I LOVED it! I don't know why, but the whole process made so much sense to me. Maybe it was because dselect was a lot like ANSI-based BBS interfaces I used back in 1989 to 1996, when I ran my own BBS. All I know is that everything fell into place at that point. Even to this day, I still don't use a GUI on linux (unless it's ncurses or something). No xwindows for me.:)
A year and a half later, I was employed by the biggest UNIX company in the world, debugging their enterprise servers. All because Debian clicked and I latched onto it. It changed my life.
Debian may not be your thing, but if you prefer a command line and knowing where things are located and don't just want magical things to happen behind the scenes when you click on a button, you will probably love Debian. You can apply the glossy coat, too - but you'll dig the undercarriage.
My other preferred distro is Slackware. For exactly the same reason as Debian (except I'm a major fan of Debian's apt-get - I would hate to live without it).
Otherwise, I might suggest Gentoo. I played with that a bit and like it. It is very configurable and can be just as light or detailed as you want it to be. Their site offers much information on how to configure it at whatever level you care for.
Mandrake seems good, but I couldn't get it to work properly with my 23" HD Apple Cinedisplay LCD. It displayed the desktops at the prefered resolution (1920x), but only displayed in a *screen* resolution of 1024x768. That meant you had to mouse around the environment just to see the rest of the desktop. No amount of LineMode tweaking seemed to resolve it. Played with NVidia's custom linux drivers. Copied and tweaked configurations from a lot of resources on the net that used the same monitor (or in some cases had even successfully managed to do dual displays with such monitors!) . . . But I couldn't swing it in Mandrake. After a few days, I gave up - simply becuase I didn't have any more time to affort to that venture.
Anyway, you probably don't care about that if you're just using a regular monitor. So don't let that detract from your consideration.
I can't offer much in the way of Suse. I used Caldera back in the day, but not for long. A number of my colleagues use Suse and love it. I personally would not reccommend it to anyone as a first choice, but I have no solid justification for that.
I'd also suggest playing with Knoppix if you are very uncertain of linux and want to get your feet wet first.
I would also suggest checking out the various communities before commiting to a distro. That will play a large part in your experience with it. Mandrake, Gentoo and Debian all have magnificant communities and you will find ample assistance from people for all of them. Chances are that anything you run into, someone else has *and resolved*, too. Something to keep in mind.
When you're unemployed, you may often feel like you have less control over your life and your future. You may feel uncertain, uneasy and stressed. I think that putting a lot of effort into structuring your job hunting and every possible aspect and detail involved is a way for many people to feel that they have more control over their destiny. It gives them a sense of self-control and a way to measure their progress and goals.
It may not be directly productive or useful in some circumstances, but I suspect that for a lot of people (perhaps like the submitter), the benefits come in the form of less anxiety and more confidence.
Some companies send their employees to training seminars that instruct them on creating action plans, lists, lists of plans, plans of lists, lists of lists and plans of plans. The idea is that if you have everything thought out and written down, you have more control and will be more likely to make progress without wavering from that goal.
Hell, some of the corporate career consultants (that also handle executives and CEOs) will start you off with nothing less than a couple dozen pages of self-introspective documentation to fill out. Things that seem ridiculous and pointless as you're filling it out, but build a more accurate and useful picture of yourself and your potential by the time you're done.
That isn't really my kind of thing. It's a bit too "I'm okay you're okay; now let's all hug rather than getting work done" for my taste. But my point is that if billion dollar employers and consultants (these are NOT headhunters) find such detail and consideration to be a highly valuable tool, then it should not be disregarded when it comes to an individual doing this in their job hunts.
I'm not really sure what your point is. Who said anything about using a shotgun approach? In fact, who said anything about want ads or job boards, either?
If you're looking for jobs and can't find more than two or three that interest you, you haven't been properly networking.
The day I was laid off (after most of a decade), I had several colleagues and former bosses contact me to speak with me about positions I might be interested by the end of the day, without any action on my part. News made its way through the grapevine and they contact me. This is how it should be.
Granted, this varies depending on how long you've been in the business and how long you've worked with the same people. For most people with a steady work history, I think having at least half a dozen to a dozen immediate possible positions within reach is reasonable. If you don't, then you either haven't been making friends at work or your performance hasn't been memorable enough for anyone to care.
As someone else posted, those who network, are friendly, keep in touch and are productive tend to have the jobs looking for them.
Someone needs to put together some humorous Linux "commercials". For the in-crowd, it would be hilarious. For the rest, it would be potentially good advertisement. If there are any that I've simply not seen, please offer links.
You have to remember that a lot of geeks spend weeks writing software just to catalogue their DVD collection. It's only natural to feel compelled to extend that to jub hunting (and everywhere for that matter). It's just a quirk.
If these steps are too complicated, and you feel you need a DBMS to keep track of you job-hunt, you are doing something wrong.
If you're dealing with two or three companies, that's correct.
If your scope is much larger than that, you need to keep track of it thoroughly and a database isn't that bad of an idea. You can be sure that any sizable company with more than a couple of positions available is doing exactly the same thing in regard to every interaction they have with you. So should you.
Also, if you're only dealing with two or three companies, you may not be living in the real world. At that rate, you may never find a job. On the other hand, if you're casting your net out over two or three hundred companies - you're not focusing enough on desired positions and companies. I sure would not want to hire someone who was only interested in my company because they were in the computer field and my company's name had the word "tech" in it.
A database of some sort is a good idea. Just don't spend all of your time working on that when you should be working on getting a job. If you can get something working in a day, that's cool. Then you can just jot your notes down in it when you're on the phone with a company or when you get back from interviews and be done with it.
Preperation and attention to detail is important to maintain a career. As long as you can do this without an imbalanced amount of dedicated time, use whatever tool strikes your fancy without being overkill.
I installed a wiki on my main desktop about a year ago. I manage everything with it, including job-hunting, resumes, contacts, reminders. There are many wikis, but I found Twiki to be the most powerful and flexible with the most features. If you're stuck on Windows, you can even install Apache and Cygwin so that you can use Twiki on it. There's even full instructions on their site walking you through that process.
I have a popular auction site that is along the lines of what you're mentioning. It's very Liz Claiborne (people shopping for Lip Service, Hot Topic, custom jewelry, used CDs, crafts, custom fashions) and not at all "ThinkGeek or something".
I've been very critical of this "Firefox is making a difference" bandwagon for a long time. However, I've been observing my own site's statistics over the last few months and the numbers are, indeed, surprising.
Until recently, my site has been 95% MSIE, just like it has been for almost five years. Viewing just the most recent stats shows that out of 40,000 unique visitors:
77.2% are using MSIE 18.5% are using Firefox, Mozilla or Netscape 2.3% are using Safari 1.1% are using Opera
The reason I take these statistics seriously is that my site is not at all a technical site. It's an auction site with 95% females between the ages of 15 and 50. A lot of AOL users. While there are some very technically savvy people on the site, the majority of them are extremely novice to average. So if a lot of them are moving away from MSIE, it is a significant indication of where the general web population is also going.
While I'd give a heartfelt hand-clap if all three of the above (and more) were canceled forever, you can't compare corporations funding award shows for their employees (who are private citizens) with corporations footing the bill for a massaive gala for the public-official.
This is why the politicians as they currently are will continue to remain. People like you are so per-occupied in hating blue-staters; they with red-staters. Rather than using foul language and insulting reporters that you dislike or taking issue with major problems in government (even with your oh so exhalted Bush), you'd rather act like some chest-thumping "Da-Bulls!" fanatic. You don't care what the score is, as long as someone is wearing the jersey sporting your favorite logo and colors.
At some point, you might wake up and realize that your party and politicians are just as full of shit, useless and evil as those of the blue fanatics. As long as your two groups continue to squabble, the corporations and aristocrats who pay BOTH parties off to do their bidding will continue to operate freely. You play right into their hands this way. Be a mouth-breathing rah-rah boy. And that actually goes for the liberals falling head over ass to bash Bush in a selfish attempt to pump-up their own parties. Neither of you are doing the country any good. Just grinding us further and further into a divided pit.
If you've got REAL proof Bush 41 said this, post it.
Okay. How about this. Though I'm sure you'll nit-pick and say that he doesn't explicitely say the same phrase here. But he does elude to his initial comment over a decade ago and re-affirms it, in the context of being president rather than being a patriot. When he first made the statement (I remember it, I was about twelve years old when it happened), he had continued by saying something to the effect that an atheist could not be president, because an atheist can not be a patriot.
Here is the MSNBC transcript of George Herbert Walker Bush being interviewed by Don Imus on his radio program on September 1st, 2004. He does not make the same statement word for word, but eludes to having made the statement about atheists not being able to be patriots. He actually says an atheist can not be president, but he is clearly nodding toward his original statement a decade and a half ago in which he had said explicitely that atheists can not possibly be patriots.
Not only is the entire transcript right there, but so is a video of the interview.
Now, you could quibble and say "but he doesn't say atheists can't be patriots - just that they can't be president", but it's clear from his comment what he is asserting. I certainly don't see how this specific statement is any less offensive. Hell, just imagine if he made this statement about any other race, sex or religion? He'd be in incredibly hot water.
"Lincoln said you cannot be President without spending some item on your knees. I have repeated that and a bunch of Atheists got all over me. Wait a minute. Does that mean that you cannot be President if you are an Atheist? I say yea that does mean that." -- George Herbert Walker Bush, 2004
Slashdot Mirror
I can't believe this is idea is a big deal. Haven't most geeks been using Microsoft's Terraserver to get overhead sat images of locations they're going to be going to and using them as a guide once you reach the general location of your destination? Even though the photos are from a top-down perspective, they usually help me find the business I'm looking for when I'm in the neighborhood.
Maybe, just maybe, because it isn't supported out-of-the-box, and since most average users can't even double-click without help, they won't take the time/effort to install an external codec, much less one they never heard about (maybe you could get away with RealPlayer or something like that, but anything less known and it's pushing it).
Yes, because non-Windows users are so stupid that they can't figure out how to install codecs or click buttons. Especially those OSX and Linux bastards.
Then the solution would be to have two seperate torrents with one seeder offfering the first half of the file and the other seeder offering the second half. Then the recipient can combine them together. If so, that's his doing - not the seeders who were merely sharing partial works for commentary (nor the non-seed torrents that are merely distributing very small portions of the file and not the entire file).
But hey, I'm just rambling.
So, if you have a torrent tracker that is set up much like Slashdot is - where you have seeded torrents (instead of articles) and each torrent has the ability to recieve and display comments from visitors about that specific torrent's book/movie/album/game, it's no longer in violation of copyright? Because people are accessing the supplied copyrighted content for the purpose of "commenting on the creative work".
You mean this comment is my own property for 95 years just because I wrote it...
Stay back fools and don't quote me. You'd better believe I'll protect my rights!
You have forgotten about fair use.
Don't you dare try to call distribution of his copyrighted comments to tens of thousands of strangers over the internet with the "fair use" of sharing his comments with one of your friends, for purpose of research or commentary! HOW DARE YOU!!!
As I understand it, every creative work is copyrighted the moment it is created. You don't have to pay the cash and fill out the forms with the government just to have a copyright on something.
The difference here is that you can prosecute copyright violations more harshly if the copyright is registered than if it is not. If it is registered with the government, you can typically sue for more than just damages. If there is no *registered* copyright on your creation, you can still take the violator go court - but you'll only be allowed to sue for the actual cash-damage they've done to you.
I'm not an IP lawyer, of course. This is just based on my comprehension of online legal resources after researching for a couple situations I've been in and needed to enforce my rights.
Judges shouldn't legislate from the bench.
They don't. They make judgements based on their interpretation of the law. That's what they're hired for. The phrase "legislate from the bench" is just NewSpeak thrown about to gather support from various groups when they don't agree with a ruling.
Personal freedom doesn't come into play where children and/or schools are involved. There are historical exceptions and legal precedents establishing this fact. Just thought it was worth pointing out before people get all high-and-might on the white horse about bringing "free speech" and other irrelevant arguments into play.
He'd like to be employed with them now which indicates a present tense need for intelligence. Likely, he meant:
"I wish I are smart enough to get a job with them"
Or...
"I wish I is smart enough to get a job with them".
Yeah, I remember those ads. The ones with the little aryan-boy that looked like he stepped straight out of "The Good Son". :D
Oh, right. I forgot this was 2005. :D
how about just get a big binder/folder and sections for different job positions?
:P
You mean, kind of like a database?
I know this is completely off topic, but here is my suggestion: Debian.
:)
:)
I know, it has a reputation of being one of the most difficult to install and administer, because of the "guru" factor. I don't think that's accurate. If you're inexperienced when it comes to computers, I would suggest something with a stronger grounding in point and click. If you're well-experienced, then you might be more comfortable with Debian.
I grew up on DOS (except for my first experience, which was with a VIC-20 in 1984). I barely used Windows. Even after Windows95 came out, I refused to use it. I didn't start using Windows until Windows98 - and only begrudgingly. Not long after, I started playing with Linux. A friend/coworker introduced everyone in the office to it and a lot of us grabbed onto it and have been die-hard ever since (back in about 1998).
I played with Red Hat, mostly. I didn't like it. It didn't feel right and it was hard to figure out where things were for me. It felt kludgy. But then I got my hands on Debian. The only reason I bothered with Debian was that I knew Slashdot used it.
I LOVED it! I don't know why, but the whole process made so much sense to me. Maybe it was because dselect was a lot like ANSI-based BBS interfaces I used back in 1989 to 1996, when I ran my own BBS. All I know is that everything fell into place at that point. Even to this day, I still don't use a GUI on linux (unless it's ncurses or something). No xwindows for me.
A year and a half later, I was employed by the biggest UNIX company in the world, debugging their enterprise servers. All because Debian clicked and I latched onto it. It changed my life.
Debian may not be your thing, but if you prefer a command line and knowing where things are located and don't just want magical things to happen behind the scenes when you click on a button, you will probably love Debian. You can apply the glossy coat, too - but you'll dig the undercarriage.
My other preferred distro is Slackware. For exactly the same reason as Debian (except I'm a major fan of Debian's apt-get - I would hate to live without it).
Otherwise, I might suggest Gentoo. I played with that a bit and like it. It is very configurable and can be just as light or detailed as you want it to be. Their site offers much information on how to configure it at whatever level you care for.
Mandrake seems good, but I couldn't get it to work properly with my 23" HD Apple Cinedisplay LCD. It displayed the desktops at the prefered resolution (1920x), but only displayed in a *screen* resolution of 1024x768. That meant you had to mouse around the environment just to see the rest of the desktop. No amount of LineMode tweaking seemed to resolve it. Played with NVidia's custom linux drivers. Copied and tweaked configurations from a lot of resources on the net that used the same monitor (or in some cases had even successfully managed to do dual displays with such monitors!) . . . But I couldn't swing it in Mandrake. After a few days, I gave up - simply becuase I didn't have any more time to affort to that venture.
Anyway, you probably don't care about that if you're just using a regular monitor. So don't let that detract from your consideration.
I can't offer much in the way of Suse. I used Caldera back in the day, but not for long. A number of my colleagues use Suse and love it. I personally would not reccommend it to anyone as a first choice, but I have no solid justification for that.
I'd also suggest playing with Knoppix if you are very uncertain of linux and want to get your feet wet first.
I would also suggest checking out the various communities before commiting to a distro. That will play a large part in your experience with it. Mandrake, Gentoo and Debian all have magnificant communities and you will find ample assistance from people for all of them. Chances are that anything you run into, someone else has *and resolved*, too. Something to keep in mind.
Good luck and welcome to the club!
An additional thought on this:
When you're unemployed, you may often feel like you have less control over your life and your future. You may feel uncertain, uneasy and stressed. I think that putting a lot of effort into structuring your job hunting and every possible aspect and detail involved is a way for many people to feel that they have more control over their destiny. It gives them a sense of self-control and a way to measure their progress and goals.
It may not be directly productive or useful in some circumstances, but I suspect that for a lot of people (perhaps like the submitter), the benefits come in the form of less anxiety and more confidence.
Some companies send their employees to training seminars that instruct them on creating action plans, lists, lists of plans, plans of lists, lists of lists and plans of plans. The idea is that if you have everything thought out and written down, you have more control and will be more likely to make progress without wavering from that goal.
Hell, some of the corporate career consultants (that also handle executives and CEOs) will start you off with nothing less than a couple dozen pages of self-introspective documentation to fill out. Things that seem ridiculous and pointless as you're filling it out, but build a more accurate and useful picture of yourself and your potential by the time you're done.
That isn't really my kind of thing. It's a bit too "I'm okay you're okay; now let's all hug rather than getting work done" for my taste. But my point is that if billion dollar employers and consultants (these are NOT headhunters) find such detail and consideration to be a highly valuable tool, then it should not be disregarded when it comes to an individual doing this in their job hunts.
I'm not really sure what your point is. Who said anything about using a shotgun approach? In fact, who said anything about want ads or job boards, either?
If you're looking for jobs and can't find more than two or three that interest you, you haven't been properly networking.
The day I was laid off (after most of a decade), I had several colleagues and former bosses contact me to speak with me about positions I might be interested by the end of the day, without any action on my part. News made its way through the grapevine and they contact me. This is how it should be.
Granted, this varies depending on how long you've been in the business and how long you've worked with the same people. For most people with a steady work history, I think having at least half a dozen to a dozen immediate possible positions within reach is reasonable. If you don't, then you either haven't been making friends at work or your performance hasn't been memorable enough for anyone to care.
As someone else posted, those who network, are friendly, keep in touch and are productive tend to have the jobs looking for them.
Someone needs to put together some humorous Linux "commercials". For the in-crowd, it would be hilarious. For the rest, it would be potentially good advertisement. If there are any that I've simply not seen, please offer links.
You have to remember that a lot of geeks spend weeks writing software just to catalogue their DVD collection. It's only natural to feel compelled to extend that to jub hunting (and everywhere for that matter). It's just a quirk.
If these steps are too complicated, and you feel you need a DBMS to keep track of you job-hunt, you are doing something wrong.
If you're dealing with two or three companies, that's correct.
If your scope is much larger than that, you need to keep track of it thoroughly and a database isn't that bad of an idea. You can be sure that any sizable company with more than a couple of positions available is doing exactly the same thing in regard to every interaction they have with you. So should you.
Also, if you're only dealing with two or three companies, you may not be living in the real world. At that rate, you may never find a job. On the other hand, if you're casting your net out over two or three hundred companies - you're not focusing enough on desired positions and companies. I sure would not want to hire someone who was only interested in my company because they were in the computer field and my company's name had the word "tech" in it.
A database of some sort is a good idea. Just don't spend all of your time working on that when you should be working on getting a job. If you can get something working in a day, that's cool. Then you can just jot your notes down in it when you're on the phone with a company or when you get back from interviews and be done with it.
Preperation and attention to detail is important to maintain a career. As long as you can do this without an imbalanced amount of dedicated time, use whatever tool strikes your fancy without being overkill.
I installed a wiki on my main desktop about a year ago. I manage everything with it, including job-hunting, resumes, contacts, reminders. There are many wikis, but I found Twiki to be the most powerful and flexible with the most features. If you're stuck on Windows, you can even install Apache and Cygwin so that you can use Twiki on it. There's even full instructions on their site walking you through that process.
I have a popular auction site that is along the lines of what you're mentioning. It's very Liz Claiborne (people shopping for Lip Service, Hot Topic, custom jewelry, used CDs, crafts, custom fashions) and not at all "ThinkGeek or something".
I've been very critical of this "Firefox is making a difference" bandwagon for a long time. However, I've been observing my own site's statistics over the last few months and the numbers are, indeed, surprising.
Until recently, my site has been 95% MSIE, just like it has been for almost five years. Viewing just the most recent stats shows that out of 40,000 unique visitors:
77.2% are using MSIE
18.5% are using Firefox, Mozilla or Netscape
2.3% are using Safari
1.1% are using Opera
The reason I take these statistics seriously is that my site is not at all a technical site. It's an auction site with 95% females between the ages of 15 and 50. A lot of AOL users. While there are some very technically savvy people on the site, the majority of them are extremely novice to average. So if a lot of them are moving away from MSIE, it is a significant indication of where the general web population is also going.
While I'd give a heartfelt hand-clap if all three of the above (and more) were canceled forever, you can't compare corporations funding award shows for their employees (who are private citizens) with corporations footing the bill for a massaive gala for the public-official.
This is why the politicians as they currently are will continue to remain. People like you are so per-occupied in hating blue-staters; they with red-staters. Rather than using foul language and insulting reporters that you dislike or taking issue with major problems in government (even with your oh so exhalted Bush), you'd rather act like some chest-thumping "Da-Bulls!" fanatic. You don't care what the score is, as long as someone is wearing the jersey sporting your favorite logo and colors.
At some point, you might wake up and realize that your party and politicians are just as full of shit, useless and evil as those of the blue fanatics. As long as your two groups continue to squabble, the corporations and aristocrats who pay BOTH parties off to do their bidding will continue to operate freely. You play right into their hands this way. Be a mouth-breathing rah-rah boy. And that actually goes for the liberals falling head over ass to bash Bush in a selfish attempt to pump-up their own parties. Neither of you are doing the country any good. Just grinding us further and further into a divided pit.
You gave us "Waiting for god" and other crappy shows, you bastards.
;)
Of course, you also gave us Eddie Izzard so . . . You break even.
If you've got REAL proof Bush 41 said this, post it.
Okay. How about this. Though I'm sure you'll nit-pick and say that he doesn't explicitely say the same phrase here. But he does elude to his initial comment over a decade ago and re-affirms it, in the context of being president rather than being a patriot. When he first made the statement (I remember it, I was about twelve years old when it happened), he had continued by saying something to the effect that an atheist could not be president, because an atheist can not be a patriot.
Here is the MSNBC transcript of George Herbert Walker Bush being interviewed by Don Imus on his radio program on September 1st, 2004. He does not make the same statement word for word, but eludes to having made the statement about atheists not being able to be patriots. He actually says an atheist can not be president, but he is clearly nodding toward his original statement a decade and a half ago in which he had said explicitely that atheists can not possibly be patriots.
Not only is the entire transcript right there, but so is a video of the interview.
Now, you could quibble and say "but he doesn't say atheists can't be patriots - just that they can't be president", but it's clear from his comment what he is asserting. I certainly don't see how this specific statement is any less offensive. Hell, just imagine if he made this statement about any other race, sex or religion? He'd be in incredibly hot water.
"Lincoln said you cannot be President without spending some item on your knees. I have repeated that and a bunch of Atheists got all over me. Wait a minute. Does that mean that you cannot be President if you are an Atheist? I say yea that does mean that." -- George Herbert Walker Bush, 2004
Wow! What great timing!
Michael Powell Stepping Down Today