Gah, NT4 sucks! 2k is way better! And yes, I WOULD KNOW given I'm a sys admin.
NT4 has no plug and play h/w detection, so you best know what you want. I've found driver availablity to be poor at best, and generally not that good. If you want anything like USB, firewire, etc then you have to pay for some 3rd party software which isn't stellar.
Oh, and it basically won't be supported for much longer so don't expect to see many security updates for it in the future.
I thought the latest version of DX it supported was 3 anyway? Either way, you ain't going to be able to play any game which requires even version 7. Any new game requires v9!
The problem with RDRAM was that it was clocked very highly and therefore quite different from the other DRAMs out there. So it required a lot of learning on behalf of the memory companies to convert their processes to do such things. Also the high clock made signalling difficult due to interference I believe.
Whilst RDRAM was better suited for the P4, this was the time when the Athlon was at it's peak. That was SDRAM/DDR only so that had market pressure to resist RDRAM anyway!
RDRAM still has its uses - mainly on fixed motherboards like the PS2. It just isn't suited to socketed stuff like the current DDR technology is.
In the end, RDRAM cost TONS more and was simply not that much better (if at all) than the current PC-100/PC-133 SDRAM memories at the time.
No, you're wrong. The EDA market is all about single threaded worloads, and Sun are going to suffer in this market.
The tool vendors are very sweet too, if you run multi-threaded stuff then you pay per thread. Not exactly an insentive when you can buy Opterons and run it pretty damned quick in singled threaded mode instead.
One problem - what about for stuff which single threaded performance IS important? You can't use SMP for everything, not all tasks can be easily threaded.....
If you think that a 1.5GHz G4 is equiv to a 3GHz Pentium 4 then you are sadly mistaken. Apple didn't publish SPEC figures for the G4, but you can google for them and you'll fine a 1GHz G4 is slower than a 1 GHz P3! A 3GHz P4 will toast it.
The G5 is a very good processor, and I would fancy a 2GHz G5 to beat a 3GHz P4 in some tasks depending on what they are. It will not beat it across the board though. The G5 is good, is it not THAT good! Expect it to match the Opteron clock for clock though (approx).
I'm an EDA admin and people love using x86 boxes, and complain when stuff runs so "slowly" due to requiring a large amount of memory as it had to run on SPARC boxes. So yeah, we're getting Opterons.
They won't drop SPARC/Solaris for a while, but I can't say news like this is good for Sun in the EDA space. Multi-threading apps to run on these multi-core chips is difficult, and they charge you a license per core so it'll be expensive to use it!
So instead, you'll run it single threaded on your brand new Opteron/POWER4/Itanium2 and be happy in single threaded land.
Sun would destroy Linux if it could though! To them, Solaris on SPARC hardware is everything and Linux is nothing. If they start losing Solaris market share, they are going to lose their h/w market which they get a lot of money from. They do have a SCO license and are now very friendly with Microsoft.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend? That applies to both Microsoft & Sun with regards to Linux.....
Whilst Solaris scales well, there isn't a large market for such large boxes. You can't base a business up at such the high end only. There are still plenty of markets Sun is in right now where single threaded performance is king, and Sun is going to get killed in them as it stands.
if you look at Sun's offering, including their x86 servers, they offer LOM on all models.
I suggest you look much harder then. The Sunfire v65 & v60 do not have any LOM stuff on them. I know, we use them at my place. The Opteron boxes do mind, but that is only because they got it from Newisys! I suspect the Opteron is the first box to have LOM looking at their x86 history as of late.
Why don't you have a big NFS server rather than install stuff on every machine anyway?
Argh, I hate Framemaker. I use 7 at work on Solaris & Windows. The Solaris version is a buggy pile of crap compared to the Windows version. And guess which version gets the most updates - Windows!
I think you'll see the Solaris version being dropped soon, I've tried to get support from Adobe about it and I was just wasting my time.
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RH Enterprise 3 ships with a heavily modified 2.4.21 kernel.... yes, this include WhiteBox too!
Of course, it did come out in November 2003. Over 6 months ago too. Sun have no excuse if even RH's "super stable" distro is on 2.4.21!
Gah, NT4 sucks! 2k is way better! And yes, I WOULD KNOW given I'm a sys admin.
NT4 has no plug and play h/w detection, so you best know what you want. I've found driver availablity to be poor at best, and generally not that good. If you want anything like USB, firewire, etc then you have to pay for some 3rd party software which isn't stellar.
Oh, and it basically won't be supported for much longer so don't expect to see many security updates for it in the future.
I thought the latest version of DX it supported was 3 anyway? Either way, you ain't going to be able to play any game which requires even version 7. Any new game requires v9!
At least Win2k still has some life in it....
The GPL isn't an EULA though!!!
The GPL is a license for distribution, if you didn't have it then you'd be breaking copyright law on the author's code/music/etc.
I'm pwn3d!
;)
At least it wasn't a 1 digit UID anyway
6 digit UID? Muahahahah!!!
(j/k anyway - I suspect a 3 digit UID guy will come and 0wnz me shortly)
Too right.
The problem with RDRAM was that it was clocked very highly and therefore quite different from the other DRAMs out there. So it required a lot of learning on behalf of the memory companies to convert their processes to do such things. Also the high clock made signalling difficult due to interference I believe.
Whilst RDRAM was better suited for the P4, this was the time when the Athlon was at it's peak. That was SDRAM/DDR only so that had market pressure to resist RDRAM anyway!
RDRAM still has its uses - mainly on fixed motherboards like the PS2. It just isn't suited to socketed stuff like the current DDR technology is.
In the end, RDRAM cost TONS more and was simply not that much better (if at all) than the current PC-100/PC-133 SDRAM memories at the time.
Perhaps you should also look at the different sensor types as well:
CMOS vs CCD!!
No, you're wrong. The EDA market is all about single threaded worloads, and Sun are going to suffer in this market.
The tool vendors are very sweet too, if you run multi-threaded stuff then you pay per thread. Not exactly an insentive when you can buy Opterons and run it pretty damned quick in singled threaded mode instead.
One problem - what about for stuff which single threaded performance IS important? You can't use SMP for everything, not all tasks can be easily threaded.....
You need new PC servers then. No UltraSPARC can compete with a top end PC in physical raw compute power.
If you think that a 1.5GHz G4 is equiv to a 3GHz Pentium 4 then you are sadly mistaken. Apple didn't publish SPEC figures for the G4, but you can google for them and you'll fine a 1GHz G4 is slower than a 1 GHz P3! A 3GHz P4 will toast it.
The G5 is a very good processor, and I would fancy a 2GHz G5 to beat a 3GHz P4 in some tasks depending on what they are. It will not beat it across the board though. The G5 is good, is it not THAT good! Expect it to match the Opteron clock for clock though (approx).
Next year? It'll be shaped like the Linux desktop of course!
:)
Or is that next year? Or the year after? etc?
Amen to that.
I'm an EDA admin and people love using x86 boxes, and complain when stuff runs so "slowly" due to requiring a large amount of memory as it had to run on SPARC boxes. So yeah, we're getting Opterons.
They won't drop SPARC/Solaris for a while, but I can't say news like this is good for Sun in the EDA space. Multi-threading apps to run on these multi-core chips is difficult, and they charge you a license per core so it'll be expensive to use it!
So instead, you'll run it single threaded on your brand new Opteron/POWER4/Itanium2 and be happy in single threaded land.
Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my badger. Prepare to die.
Hey, I might get my first ever first po... BUFFERING.........
Errrr, this is nothing to do with the filesystems involved though! It'll work just as well on resierfs as ext2!
File optimisation as you describe it is completely DIFFERENT!!
Sun would destroy Linux if it could though! To them, Solaris on SPARC hardware is everything and Linux is nothing. If they start losing Solaris market share, they are going to lose their h/w market which they get a lot of money from. They do have a SCO license and are now very friendly with Microsoft.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend? That applies to both Microsoft & Sun with regards to Linux.....
As for the 500 processor link box? OK!
I suggest you look much harder then. The Sunfire v65 & v60 do not have any LOM stuff on them. I know, we use them at my place. The Opteron boxes do mind, but that is only because they got it from Newisys! I suspect the Opteron is the first box to have LOM looking at their x86 history as of late.
Why don't you have a big NFS server rather than install stuff on every machine anyway?
How is Sun fixing .NET or selling Windows on their Xeon/Opteron boxes possibly bad for Microsoft?!
The P4 is weak. Still an Athlon FX-53 against it and then we'll see who the Daddy is!
"Nicer interface" and "looks cooler" and very much in the eye of the beholder too.....
Last time I recall, it was Sun & Realmedia who have been complaining about Microsoft mostly.
And they are both American companies!
As other posts have said, the EU has also fined the crap out of a load of EU companies too so they are pretty fair about it.
It is so simple though!
Microsoft is a monopoly, Apple is not. Therefore Microsoft has to play by a different set of rules than Apple does.
If people don't like Apple, they don't use. Struggling not to use Windows is difficult.
Argh, I hate Framemaker. I use 7 at work on Solaris & Windows. The Solaris version is a buggy pile of crap compared to the Windows version. And guess which version gets the most updates - Windows!
I think you'll see the Solaris version being dropped soon, I've tried to get support from Adobe about it and I was just wasting my time.
I think you mean they are a ROS..... ...rodent of unusual size!!!