+1 terrible, given that ISO is now seen as a money grubbing corporate lackey, with non-transparent processes and processes vulnerable to corruption by the highest bidder.
Hopefully this fiasco will never happen again. The best you can say about the whole deal is that it at least gives an insight into how standards are created. Unfortunately, it seems that many aren't created with quality in mind, but for the good of a single interest.
"It would be a combination of them not obeying the rules and US going into an isolated state."
"But it wouldn't be necessarily because of reactive policy but more of a combination of paying more for certain products and the problems arising from other countries not playing by the rules."
The irony is amazing. You do realise that the scenario only occurs because the U.S. didn't play by the rules either? The conversation went along these lines: The U.S. is not meeting it's treaty obligations, and is not enforcing international copyright law. People said that the U.S. should. There was protest that the U.S. should not have to meet it's treaty obligations if it against U.S. law. Then it was pointed out that if that's the case, then you can't really blame places like Antigua if they also decide that it's not in their best interests to follow U.S. copyright law. Now you are saying that it's the fault of other countries if there is a trade war because they don't obey the rules (i.e. their treaty obligations).
Let's simplify the argument. You are saying that the U.S. should be able to ignore treaties with other countries, but other countries should not be able to ignore treaties with the U.S.
Actually, the mail admins suffered when they got their arses kicked because no mail was getting through. That's the whole point, or didn't you get that?
Again, allow me to point out that if the mail admin is slack, then there is a good chance that those 1,000 mail users are going to be dealing with a patchy service anyway.
If the rest of the world ignored U.S. patents and copyright, then I'm fairly certain the U.S. would care. Same deal with what the U.S. is doing you know - it's not necessarily in the best interest of Europe or any foreign group to follow the laws of the United States.
Dude, ORDB didn't fail. It was taken down. Stupid mail admins kept using it. This generated a fair amount of traffic to a pretty useful domain name. The fault is solely with the mail admins, not the ORDB.
You cannot say that people were NOT warned. Lazy mail admins, who couldn't be bothered changing their boxes are the problem here. Looks like they got burned due to their laziness and lack of proactiveness. They weren't good mail admins in the first place, if they got this wrong, what else are they doing wrong? At the end of the day, they deserve everything they get.
Hang on, let me get this straight. Bone-dead mail admins are using ORDB, they are sick of all the traffic so they setup false positives for all email. Yet who is the problem? Why, it's Linux!
While it's very clever to say to use "robots.txt", it doesn't really help. If you have a well laid out site, that has been made as searchable via Google as possible, then it's not particularly clever to prevent Google from indexing the site. Thus, robots.txt isn't really a solution for those people.
One poorly modded comment does not make a conspiracy against you! You have no way of knowing who modded down your comment, it's quite possible that it wasn't a Mac fan boy.
What sort of problems though? Your post is too vague to comment on. I'm running a version of PulseAudio now on Hardy Heron and I'm not having any issues.
It must be... you posted a comment that it's a slow news day on the article that you believe proves it's a slow news day. If there was something else interesting/important going on, you would have commented on that article and not this one.
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Yes, but is Apple seriously trying to discourage all development on their platform? That's what's going to happen if they keep this up.
Oh for goodness sake. Won't an editor do an update already?!?
Yes, but of course the service you are using needs to be actually running SSL.
Bah. Run Linux, no reboots. No reboots = no problems with boot-sector viruses.
+1 terrible, given that ISO is now seen as a money grubbing corporate lackey, with non-transparent processes and processes vulnerable to corruption by the highest bidder.
Hopefully this fiasco will never happen again. The best you can say about the whole deal is that it at least gives an insight into how standards are created. Unfortunately, it seems that many aren't created with quality in mind, but for the good of a single interest.
The assumption that I was criticising him is all yours, good sir.
That comment is awesome in its lack of punctuation.
"It would be a combination of them not obeying the rules and US going into an isolated state."
"But it wouldn't be necessarily because of reactive policy but more of a combination of paying more for certain products and the problems arising from other countries not playing by the rules."
The irony is amazing. You do realise that the scenario only occurs because the U.S. didn't play by the rules either? The conversation went along these lines: The U.S. is not meeting it's treaty obligations, and is not enforcing international copyright law. People said that the U.S. should. There was protest that the U.S. should not have to meet it's treaty obligations if it against U.S. law. Then it was pointed out that if that's the case, then you can't really blame places like Antigua if they also decide that it's not in their best interests to follow U.S. copyright law. Now you are saying that it's the fault of other countries if there is a trade war because they don't obey the rules (i.e. their treaty obligations).
Let's simplify the argument. You are saying that the U.S. should be able to ignore treaties with other countries, but other countries should not be able to ignore treaties with the U.S.
Nice going.
Actually, the mail admins suffered when they got their arses kicked because no mail was getting through. That's the whole point, or didn't you get that?
Again, allow me to point out that if the mail admin is slack, then there is a good chance that those 1,000 mail users are going to be dealing with a patchy service anyway.
Incidentally, I'm not an American. HTH.
Just watch Fox, you'll get both. Splendid movie fiction in a news package.
Care to address the other point the poster made?
If the rest of the world ignored U.S. patents and copyright, then I'm fairly certain the U.S. would care. Same deal with what the U.S. is doing you know - it's not necessarily in the best interest of Europe or any foreign group to follow the laws of the United States.
URGENT NEWS UPDATE: struggling smaller country stops playing by U.S. rules. Antigua allows pirated software.
Dude, ORDB didn't fail. It was taken down. Stupid mail admins kept using it. This generated a fair amount of traffic to a pretty useful domain name. The fault is solely with the mail admins, not the ORDB.
You cannot say that people were NOT warned. Lazy mail admins, who couldn't be bothered changing their boxes are the problem here. Looks like they got burned due to their laziness and lack of proactiveness. They weren't good mail admins in the first place, if they got this wrong, what else are they doing wrong? At the end of the day, they deserve everything they get.
ORDB returning false positives for all email? Why, this is terrorism!
ORDB is associated with Linux.
Linux is free software.
Free software is championed by RMS.
Won't someone call Homeland Security to arrest him?
Hang on, let me get this straight. Bone-dead mail admins are using ORDB, they are sick of all the traffic so they setup false positives for all email. Yet who is the problem? Why, it's Linux!
Seriously, get over it and grow a brain, moron.
How the hell is that insightful?
STOP USING ORDBS! Simple. It's been done for over 2 years!
If you are that stupid you are using a list that has been inactive for so long, then you deserve what you get.
True.
While it's very clever to say to use "robots.txt", it doesn't really help. If you have a well laid out site, that has been made as searchable via Google as possible, then it's not particularly clever to prevent Google from indexing the site. Thus, robots.txt isn't really a solution for those people.
It could be that I'm posting this late at night, but hot chicks in beer ads doesn't seem very subtle to me.
Pardon me if this is your point...
It also doesn't mean that there is a conspiracy! There is no real evidence of this.
Agreed, that does suck. Some moderators have very little discernment.
One poorly modded comment does not make a conspiracy against you! You have no way of knowing who modded down your comment, it's quite possible that it wasn't a Mac fan boy.
Why? Both do and say ridiculous things in equal measure.
What sort of problems though? Your post is too vague to comment on. I'm running a version of PulseAudio now on Hardy Heron and I'm not having any issues.
It must be... you posted a comment that it's a slow news day on the article that you believe proves it's a slow news day. If there was something else interesting/important going on, you would have commented on that article and not this one.